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April 30, 2013, 08:43:30 PM Last edit: April 30, 2013, 08:57:02 PM by kano |
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They won't do p2pool. They only need to point one 10GH/s board at it and they'll see the current problems with p2pool. Then imagine 8TH/s ... Read the p2pool thread for more details.
Still spreading FUD around? I've used p2pool with more than 10GH/s for months and didn't have any problem with it. Unless ASICMINER tests p2pool (probably using a stratum proxy) there's no way to know if it will or won't work well with their hardware. As I said - go read the p2pool thread ... sigh. The reason why Josh has sent a Jalapeno to forrestv is coz even a 5GH/s device makes p2pool use up 100% CPU and cause immense problems when it is talking to the other p2pools. It's also most likely directly related to the issue with Avalons. Edit: and you even posted (after it) on the page that has the discussion ... I take it reading the posts in the p2pool thread is too boring? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=18313.msg1970271#msg1970271
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April 30, 2013, 11:13:08 PM |
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They won't do p2pool. They only need to point one 10GH/s board at it and they'll see the current problems with p2pool. Then imagine 8TH/s ... Read the p2pool thread for more details.
Still spreading FUD around? I've used p2pool with more than 10GH/s for months and didn't have any problem with it. Unless ASICMINER tests p2pool (probably using a stratum proxy) there's no way to know if it will or won't work well with their hardware. As I said - go read the p2pool thread ... sigh. The reason why Josh has sent a Jalapeno to forrestv is coz even a 5GH/s device makes p2pool use up 100% CPU and cause immense problems when it is talking to the other p2pools. It's also most likely directly related to the issue with Avalons. Edit: and you even posted (after it) on the page that has the discussion ... I take it reading the posts in the p2pool thread is too boring? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=18313.msg1970271#msg1970271That's not due to the hashrate. It's latency caused by the design of the hardware. ASICMINER gear (being different) may not have that problem. p2pool can pretty obviously handle lots more than 5Gh/s. Maybe the thing to do is to ask someone who has won an ASICMINER blade auction and see how it worked for them on p2pool.
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April 30, 2013, 11:51:03 PM |
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As I said - go read the p2pool thread ... sigh. The reason why Josh has sent a Jalapeno to forrestv is coz even a 5GH/s device makes p2pool use up 100% CPU and cause immense problems when it is talking to the other p2pools. It's also most likely directly related to the issue with Avalons. Edit: and you even posted (after it) on the page that has the discussion ... I take it reading the posts in the p2pool thread is too boring? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=18313.msg1970271#msg1970271No, I've read it. ckolivas doesn't report his node efficiency, so his post doesn't exhibit any problem until he reports it. If you still don't understand that stales on p2pool are not a problem if you have around 100% efficiency, there's not much I can do to explain it further...
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May 01, 2013, 12:05:20 AM |
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With 8.7TH at current 10076292 difficulty, that's an average of 121.6 blocks/week (3040 BTC). There is really no need for anything more elaborate than solo mining. Any new element is always a possible point of failure in a system.
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May 01, 2013, 01:21:17 AM |
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As I said - go read the p2pool thread ... sigh. The reason why Josh has sent a Jalapeno to forrestv is coz even a 5GH/s device makes p2pool use up 100% CPU and cause immense problems when it is talking to the other p2pools. It's also most likely directly related to the issue with Avalons. Edit: and you even posted (after it) on the page that has the discussion ... I take it reading the posts in the p2pool thread is too boring? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=18313.msg1970271#msg1970271No, I've read it. ckolivas doesn't report his node efficiency, so his post doesn't exhibit any problem until he reports it. If you still don't understand that stales on p2pool are not a problem if you have around 100% efficiency, there's not much I can do to explain it further... Efficiency was close to zero with an Avalon mining stratum on p2pool.
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May 01, 2013, 01:43:28 AM |
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This also helps out with BTCGuild's situation of being in possession of too much hashing power.
It only moves the situation from BTCGuild's "problem" to Asicminers'. It doesn't solve the underlying problem of a single large hasher.
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May 01, 2013, 01:46:31 AM |
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It only moves the situation from BTCGuild's "problem" to Asicminers'. It doesn't solve the underlying problem of a single large hasher.
I fail to see how some one entity having 10%, 15% or even 20% of the hashing power represents a "problem". Care to explain, or better yet, rather than gumming up this thread, create/link to the thread that explains your viewpoint?
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May 01, 2013, 01:53:31 AM |
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Efficiency was close to zero with an Avalon mining stratum on p2pool.
Odd and worrying: you are not the only one having tried mining on p2pool with Avalons. I don't follow it closely (forums are not really the best for bug reports, I have to work from memory and I'm on painkillers right now...) but I know people have managed to bring Avalons at least in the 50-75% efficiency range right from the beginning and made progress from this point (maybe not with stratum). I suspect there's at least one Avalon user on P2Pool for quite some time now which uses it without apparent problems given his payouts (185Kip6odGYs4eSHD6DYsWVDJBg2DNLfiV since 2013-09-04 with an effective ~65GH/s hashrate).
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May 01, 2013, 04:52:12 AM |
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Efficiency was close to zero with an Avalon mining stratum on p2pool.
Odd and worrying: you are not the only one having tried mining on p2pool with Avalons. I don't follow it closely (forums are not really the best for bug reports, I have to work from memory and I'm on painkillers right now...) but I know people have managed to bring Avalons at least in the 50-75% efficiency range right from the beginning and made progress from this point (maybe not with stratum). I suspect there's at least one Avalon user on P2Pool for quite some time now which uses it without apparent problems given his payouts (185Kip6odGYs4eSHD6DYsWVDJBg2DNLfiV since 2013-09-04 with an effective ~65GH/s hashrate). It was a bug in Avalon's fork of cgminer, which Avalon refused to fix. forrest, the guy who wrote p2pool, ended up fixing it on his end which isn't an appropriate way of fixing it. Avalon users mine on p2pool fine now.
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May 01, 2013, 04:54:30 AM |
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Just for comic relief I think someone might be trolling the stock over at BTC-TC.CO ASICMINER-PT 19 minutes ago 1 1.222222 1.222222 ASICMINER-PT 19 minutes ago 1 1.22222 1.22222 ASICMINER-PT 19 minutes ago 1 1.2222 1.2222 ASICMINER-PT 19 minutes ago 1 1.222 1.222 ASICMINER-PT 19 minutes ago 1 1.22 1.22 
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May 01, 2013, 04:57:02 AM |
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Just for comic relief I think someone might be trolling the stock over at BTC-TC.CO ASICMINER-PT 19 minutes ago 1 1.222222 1.222222 ASICMINER-PT 19 minutes ago 1 1.22222 1.22222 ASICMINER-PT 19 minutes ago 1 1.2222 1.2222 ASICMINER-PT 19 minutes ago 1 1.222 1.222 ASICMINER-PT 19 minutes ago 1 1.22 1.22  Should be 1.666 for epic lulz.
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May 01, 2013, 05:06:37 AM |
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Hey would you ever consider doing a newsletter of your update posts...this thread is a real cluster fuck to read sometimes
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May 01, 2013, 08:30:14 AM Last edit: May 01, 2013, 11:06:12 AM by SmiGueL |
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Update
Deploying Heading to 15TH/s or more in the following 7 days.
Seems like a lot of work for the next few days, but would be awesome!  We're at 9 TH/s again on BTCGuild  Just updated my Hashrate sheets with the network percentage over time. I really hope we are getting a bit above the ~13% we're on for the last weeks *Click on them for a full-screen interactive version.   USB Stick The sample batch will be ready in 5 days.
Also, we will announce more news before the next update.
Would really like to see some pictures of that! 
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May 01, 2013, 09:23:30 AM |
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well, most chinese nodes i have seen on p2pool struggle to get to 100% because of the latency issues involved.
uh, i havent been following asicminer at all, so i dont know what the hash rate is, but i'd imagine it's around 1/2 of what p2pool has now? so that alone should get efficiency rates above 100%, as you'd be orphaning many other ppl's shares by getting multiples in a row... well, if you wanted to be a jerk about it and play it the most profitable way. the best way for p2pool would be to set a difficulty at whatever the maximum allowed is or something like 50-100k, then ppl with lower hashrates would still have a chance to get something.
i have hong kong dedi that gets about 220ms to my germany server, duno what asicminer uses
(yeah, 9thash, uh, that'd be like 12x what's on p2pool right now? so I guess everyone else would leave. but setting up own p2pool network or own pool software with merged mining wouldnt be a bad idea)
(ed: it's 4:30am. is 9thash btcguild total? what amt is asicminer? p2pool is only like 750ghash)
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May 01, 2013, 09:36:13 AM |
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Efficiency was close to zero with an Avalon mining stratum on p2pool.
Odd and worrying: you are not the only one having tried mining on p2pool with Avalons. I don't follow it closely (forums are not really the best for bug reports, I have to work from memory and I'm on painkillers right now...) but I know people have managed to bring Avalons at least in the 50-75% efficiency range right from the beginning and made progress from this point (maybe not with stratum). I suspect there's at least one Avalon user on P2Pool for quite some time now which uses it without apparent problems given his payouts (185Kip6odGYs4eSHD6DYsWVDJBg2DNLfiV since 2013-09-04 with an effective ~65GH/s hashrate). He mines to multiple pools. I think two are on the same machine? Not sure.. But his efficiency rating would be higher if he sent me a msg and told me his IPs, unblocked them (right now the nodes I know he uses don't allow incoming connections) for my IP and let me connect 
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May 01, 2013, 10:27:40 AM |
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variance is a non issue with so much of the total hasing power. solo mining should be a no brainer.
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May 01, 2013, 10:28:46 AM |
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Update
Deploying Heading to 15TH/s or more in the following 7 days.
Seems like a lot of work for the next few days, but would be awesome!  We're at 9 TH/s again on BTCGuild  Just updated my Hashrate sheets with the network percentage over time. I really hope we are getting a bit above the ~13% we're on for the last weeks *Click on them for al full-screen interactive version.   USB Stick The sample batch will be ready in 5 days.
Also, we will announce more news before the next update.
Would really like to see some pictures of that!  Nice stats. And now we are at 9.563TH at btcguild... Its going forward... *g*
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May 01, 2013, 10:49:12 AM |
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Nice stats. And now we are at 9.563TH at btcguild... Its going forward... *g*
about to hit 10ghs yey!
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