ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It

[RoadStress]

Over at the hardware thread it's like you can hear the applause and champaign popping.

You are wrong

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[dmcdad]

What I hear is the whoosh of wind leaving the profitability sails of other miner manufacturers. It is pretty clear FC is opening a bag of hurt on the SP35 and others. I wouldn't want to try to compete with the cost reduction capabilities of Chinese manufacturers.

[gogxmagog]

Over at the hardware thread it's like you can hear the applause and champaign popping.

You are wrong

It was early after the announcement. Of course it only took a few hours for all the whiners and cassandras to come out and play. This is a good miner, better than the competition. Anyway, I'm going to interpret prisms as great news so phooey on you!

[omec]

sorry i am new to the forum

is there  place you can see exactly how much and what days the last asic miner divs were paid. and also is there a master log for direct shares to see if your shares are listed

thanks

[szmarco]

sorry i am new to the forum

is there  place you can see exactly how much and what days the last asic miner divs were paid. and also is there a master log for direct shares to see if your shares are listed

thanks

I use http://stats.takeco.in/
But I 'm not sure this is the best one. Let others help you.

[dhenson]

sorry i am new to the forum

is there  place you can see exactly how much and what days the last asic miner divs were paid. and also is there a master log for direct shares to see if your shares are listed

thanks

Confirmation of share transfer from friedcat is the only way to verify direct share ownership until the next dividend is paid.  Once the dividend comes out we will be able to see how many shares are assigned to each public address.

I plan on updating this spreadsheet of shareholders once the dividend comes out:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AnxKtjWqWJGodC1fR3JDSFBpZ2tGbjBqdzJoeFlpOXc&usp=sharing

[shawshankinmate37927]

sorry i am new to the forum

is there  place you can see exactly how much and what days the last asic miner divs were paid. and also is there a master log for direct shares to see if your shares are listed

thanks

You can also see the amount of each dividend in BTC paid per share since July 17, 2013, on Havelock:
https://www.havelockinvestments.com/fund.php?symbol=AM1

[glendall]

Really surprised to see this competitive Prisma miner. Great job AM.

[feifa]

Why FC still trying to sell high performance miner(Prisma miner)?
He can run self-mining using them.

[Blazed]

Why FC still trying to sell high performance miner(Prisma miner)?
He can run self-mining using them.

With BTC prices being down he makes more selling than mining.  He is selling them for more than they can mine after electric costs.

[jjdub7]

Friedcat's current decision is similar to the BDD market right now, made ever more crucial by the fiat rate and the fact he has inventory on hand to "SELL"

[webbrowser]

Why FC still trying to sell high performance miner(Prisma miner)?
He can run self-mining using them.

How do you know that he is not?  He might even be self-mining using even higher-density boards like with datatank.

[webbrowser]

No, there won't be any stratum problem using cgminer with Raspberry PI.

So, we now have software that doesn't have the stratum problem. Meanwhile, the 2.4PH/s btcguild userid 566620 has disappeared in the past 48 hours, causing btcguild pool hash rate to dip significantly. And the 1H7FpBV8huVmPvt5eRzszAkgnERH2FaWvq address which luffy27 and others speculate to belong to AM has likewise stopped receiving payouts.

Disclaimer: correlation != causation.

[rudi]

No, there won't be any stratum problem using cgminer with Raspberry PI.

So, we now have software that doesn't have the stratum problem. Meanwhile, the 2.4PH/s btcguild userid 566620 has disappeared in the past 48 hours, causing btcguild pool hash rate to dip significantly. And the 1H7FpBV8huVmPvt5eRzszAkgnERH2FaWvq address which luffy27 and others speculate to belong to AM has likewise stopped receiving payouts.

Disclaimer: correlation != causation.

This might have to do with my ealier prediction that AM's hashrate will soon be large enough to start self-mining again. They might be quitting BTCGuild in order to prepare for self-mining.

Disclaimer: Very speculative.

[hdbuck]

No, there won't be any stratum problem using cgminer with Raspberry PI.

So, we now have software that doesn't have the stratum problem. Meanwhile, the 2.4PH/s btcguild userid 566620 has disappeared in the past 48 hours, causing btcguild pool hash rate to dip significantly. And the 1H7FpBV8huVmPvt5eRzszAkgnERH2FaWvq address which luffy27 and others speculate to belong to AM has likewise stopped receiving payouts.

Disclaimer: correlation != causation.

This might have to do with my ealier prediction that AM's hashrate will soon be large enough to start self-mining again. They might be quitting BTCGuild in order to prepare for self-mining.

Disclaimer: Very speculative.

hell yea, plug em self-bitches in!

Disclamer: very enthusiatic

[rudi]

Brief
ASICMiner Prisma is based on a proprietary X48 design for BE200. It greatly reduces power
consumption of the device per GH/s compared to the X24 design.

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Power consumption: ~0.67 W/G board-wise. On-wall power consumption relies on PSU
efficiency. (typically 1050-1100 W per full device, 0.75-0.78 W/G)

Nice. I wonder how they managed to squeeze improve power efficiency by ~25% compared to the X24 design.

But even though this further destroys the mining competition, it probably requires nerves of steel to continue investing in miners at this time.

I'm also very impressed by this. Not only that they managed to squeeze so much power efficiency, but also the size of the device.

Regarding efficiency: Do I understand correctly that 0.75 W/G puts the Prisma at the top in terms of efficiency among devices that are currently shipping?
Is there any other company currently shipping devices with efficiency equal or greater to 0.75 W/G?

[funkymunky]

This I have been wondering too.

The fact RS hasn't been commenting too much could mean this is the case 

Brief
ASICMiner Prisma is based on a proprietary X48 design for BE200. It greatly reduces power
consumption of the device per GH/s compared to the X24 design.

...

Power consumption: ~0.67 W/G board-wise. On-wall power consumption relies on PSU
efficiency. (typically 1050-1100 W per full device, 0.75-0.78 W/G)

Nice. I wonder how they managed to squeeze improve power efficiency by ~25% compared to the X24 design.

But even though this further destroys the mining competition, it probably requires nerves of steel to continue investing in miners at this time.

I'm also very impressed by this. Not only that they managed to squeeze so much power efficiency, but also the size of the device.

Regarding efficiency: Do I understand correctly that 0.75 W/G puts the Prisma at the top in terms of efficiency among devices that are currently shipping?
Is there any other company currently shipping devices with efficiency equal or greater to 0.75 W/G?

[xhomerx10]

Brief
ASICMiner Prisma is based on a proprietary X48 design for BE200. It greatly reduces power
consumption of the device per GH/s compared to the X24 design.

...

Power consumption: ~0.67 W/G board-wise. On-wall power consumption relies on PSU
efficiency. (typically 1050-1100 W per full device, 0.75-0.78 W/G)

Nice. I wonder how they managed to squeeze improve power efficiency by ~25% compared to the X24 design.

But even though this further destroys the mining competition, it probably requires nerves of steel to continue investing in miners at this time.

I'm also very impressed by this. Not only that they managed to squeeze so much power efficiency, but also the size of the device.

Regarding efficiency: Do I understand correctly that 0.75 W/G puts the Prisma at the top in terms of efficiency among devices that are currently shipping?
Is there any other company currently shipping devices with efficiency equal or greater to 0.75 W/G?

 There is nothing so surprising about this design.  They have simply down-clocked the chips and doubled the number per board.  They could have done this in June and had the most efficient machine on the market but the chips were worth more at the time (at least that was the thinking) so it didn't make sense.  

 Here's the math:
 240MHz/270MHz(clock ratio or prisma to tube) * 800(1 Tube hash rate) * 2 (for the doubling of the chips) =1.4 TH/s

 With some extra cooling and a little know-how, you can run at 1.6+ THs with Tube-like effifciency. (NB over-clocking the proprietary design is not recommended as it could result in a damaged product)

 While I'm not impressed by the new design, I am immpressed with AMs ability to maximize the value of their product as computational difficulty rises.

[webbrowser]

There is nothing so surprising about this design.  They have simply down-clocked the chips and doubled the number per board.  They could have done this in June and had the most efficient machine on the market but the chips were worth more at the time (at least that was the thinking) so it didn't make sense.  

 Here's the math:
 240MHz/270MHz(clock ratio or prisma to tube) * 800(1 Tube hash rate) * 2 (for the doubling of the chips) =1.4 TH/s

 With some extra cooling and a little know-how, you can run at 1.6+ THs with Tube-like effifciency. (NB over-clocking the proprietary design is not recommended as it could result in a damaged product)

 While I'm not impressed by the new design, I am immpressed with AMs ability to maximize the value of their product as computational difficulty rises.

Good point.  Someone was asking a few days ago about low voltage efficiency of the chip; now we know.

Is this the lowest sensible underclocking speed, or is there further room for this in the future, i wonder?

[xhomerx10]

It's easy to be the best when you set illogical limits.
 They are certainly the only company named Asicminer shipping at this efficiency ergo we're the best! (as far as companies named Asicminer) WHOO!
 What I mean is, who cares about shipping when all a company need do is SELL?

This I have been wondering too.

The fact RS hasn't been commenting too much could mean this is the case 

Brief
ASICMiner Prisma is based on a proprietary X48 design for BE200. It greatly reduces power
consumption of the device per GH/s compared to the X24 design.

...

Power consumption: ~0.67 W/G board-wise. On-wall power consumption relies on PSU
efficiency. (typically 1050-1100 W per full device, 0.75-0.78 W/G)

Nice. I wonder how they managed to squeeze improve power efficiency by ~25% compared to the X24 design.

But even though this further destroys the mining competition, it probably requires nerves of steel to continue investing in miners at this time.

I'm also very impressed by this. Not only that they managed to squeeze so much power efficiency, but also the size of the device.

Regarding efficiency: Do I understand correctly that 0.75 W/G puts the Prisma at the top in terms of efficiency among devices that are currently shipping?
Is there any other company currently shipping devices with efficiency equal or greater to 0.75 W/G?