I would prefer a fork of Dash without the instamine. I think we will not need Dash or any other altcoin to have privacy in crypto anyway. Most of the development is happening on Bitcoin. Sooner or later Bitcoin will become optionally as anonymous as all those "anonymous altcoins" and all the money on those coins will come back to Bitcoin. With Confidential Transactions, CoinJoin and more, Bitcoin will have no competition for anonymity as well. OH RLY? Bitcoin devs can't even agree on a simple block size solution. And they are going to implement CT, CJ, and more at the protocol level to be used by default with no issues in the transition process. Okay let me know when you wake up from your dream. Maybe because the solution is not simple? The Core devs have already proved that segwit works: https://segnet.smartbit.com.au/block/0000008dfef05aa2924f65f3423de9875005a9107ff1c963c6c35f929b32ff0eHere is proof. So Bitcoin IS scaling, and is getting privacy friendly features added too. Only idiots are still arguing about blocksize increases and dreaming with some irrelevant altcoin taking Bitcoin's #1 spot, everyone with a brain and money already moved to BTC or is doing so slowly to not raise the market too soon. Thank you for your valuable contribution. A lot of people share your opinion. Dash will be just fine in that environment. We will establish ourselves slowly at first, with the trickle of users soon becoming a flood for the reasons described in my article in the OP. I wish Dash nothing but the best, but those people saying how Bitcoin is dead and it can't scale hoping that some altcoin will take its place are nothing but delusional. Bitcoin is scaling, Bitcoin will get more private, those are facts. You just can't say shit about scaling when alts don't even have to face that problem because they are tiny. If some alt gets as big as Bitcoin it's going to be fun seeing them struggle with scaling. It's easy to talk on the sidelines. There is truth in what you are saying but lets just see what the Bitcoin halving will do with regards to its mining activities, its transaction confirmations and longterm how decentralised it will stay as a whole. Those are currently my main concerns with regards to Bitcoin. Bitcoin's possibly semi-centralized and privately funded attempts to scale notwithstanding, the points I made in the OP stand. Bitcoin, through centralized funding sources, will not be able to innovate and adjust as fast as Dash's decentralized funding and governance model. Over time we will start to see the advantages add up. When you introduce centralization to a decentralized currency, it's a recipe for disaster, if you care about that. Dash is decentralized from top to bottom, it is a priority for us, and that is a model that will provide the cohesiveness and the flexibility to overtake the market leader, and lay claim to the title of Internet Of Money. |
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At least you guys are bumping the right thread now! Congratulations on figuring it out. Continue on here, we sure will on our thread. May the facts prevail, gentlemen!
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I would prefer a fork of Dash without the instamine. I think we will not need Dash or any other altcoin to have privacy in crypto anyway. Most of the development is happening on Bitcoin. Sooner or later Bitcoin will become optionally as anonymous as all those "anonymous altcoins" and all the money on those coins will come back to Bitcoin. With Confidential Transactions, CoinJoin and more, Bitcoin will have no competition for anonymity as well. OH RLY? Bitcoin devs can't even agree on a simple block size solution. And they are going to implement CT, CJ, and more at the protocol level to be used by default with no issues in the transition process. Okay let me know when you wake up from your dream. Maybe because the solution is not simple? The Core devs have already proved that segwit works: https://segnet.smartbit.com.au/block/0000008dfef05aa2924f65f3423de9875005a9107ff1c963c6c35f929b32ff0eHere is proof. So Bitcoin IS scaling, and is getting privacy friendly features added too. Only idiots are still arguing about blocksize increases and dreaming with some irrelevant altcoin taking Bitcoin's #1 spot, everyone with a brain and money already moved to BTC or is doing so slowly to not raise the market too soon. Thank you for your valuable contribution. A lot of people share your opinion. Dash will be just fine in that environment. We will establish ourselves slowly at first, with the trickle of users soon becoming a flood for the reasons described in my article in the OP. |
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I must say, I was pleasantly surprised when I woke up this morning and found this thread still at the top of the Altcoin Discussion board. I was content to let this thread die after getting the confirmation of what I knew all along: The perpetrators of the scam narrative don't have a leg to stand on, not a shred of evidence linking Dash's beginnings to any bad intent, they are just controlling the narrative on the subject. But, these school-boy bullies continue to bump the thread with their documentation of the facts from 48 hours two years ago, which no one is disputing. So I again owe them a debt of gratitude. For facts about Dash, see these sites: www.dash.org and www.rebelmouse.com/dashnation. Dash Nation is not dwelling in the past, although we remember where we came from. We are focused on the future, and building the future Internet of Money through our advanced decentralized technology, governance and funding. Thank you for bearing with us while we stand up to the individuals who seek to dominate the narrative about Dash, as has been revealed in this thread. Tao (Dash Nation Campaign Founder) |
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OK. This has been a productive thread so far, and I thank all who are reading it for their patience. We have established that Dash's name has been dragged through the mud needlessly by certain individuals, and I feel that Dash has a new lease on life.
Please, I encourage everyone to do their research and discover the truth for themselves. The truth that I and the rest of Dash Nation knows, that Dash has limitless potential due to their two-tier, soon to be 3-tier decentralized architecture. The Decentralized API will allow for a myriad of third party apps and smart contracts to be built on top of the Dash network, leading to immense opportunities.
The beginnings were rough, but there's no denying that Dash has what it takes to be the Internet Of Money.
Come check us out! Tell them Tao sent you. The trolls will not be bothering us anymore, I promise you.
Thanks again. Onwards and upwards,
Tao (Dash Nation Campaign Founder)
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Dash is a respectable, highly advanced, top candidate to be the future Internet of Money, and it's time that someone stood up and told the truth about it in a highly conspicuous place.
"The lady doth protest too much, methinks" Ha! Well you have to understand what I'm dealing with here: "A tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing."  Thanks for that. To be scammed, or not to be scammed, that is the question: Whether it's nobler in the mind to resign yourself with delusions of outrageous fortune, Or to take arms against a sea of lies And by opposing, end them. To reveal--to free... See, that was creative! I'm starting to like you. You are welcome in Dash Nation any time you'd like. Come join a winning team! I'd hate to see you wasting your talents like this... Props! Thanks, but no thanks. I know a tragedy when I see it. OK. But if you ever change your mind, PM me. Dash Nation is growing, and there's lots of room in our 2MB blocksize for you. Cheers! |
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You don't control the narrative. The facts control the narrative. Ouside of the Evan's Gate cult of bagholders, Dash is widely despised, being infamous for its profitable and conveniently "accidental" instamine, bad crypto, and snake oil HYIP marketing. You cannot rewrite this history. The more you try, the more we laugh at you. Keep laughing. You have no facts. I'm presenting the facts on my website. All you guys have is spin, innuendo and persistence. Keep laughing. If someone would like to see the facts, see here: www.rebelmouse.com/dashnation. And if Dash is despised outside of Dash Nation, it's only because you and your merry men have controlled the narrative about Dash through your "facts". No more, amigo, this ends today. Dash's massive instamine is a historical fact. You may try to spin that damning fact with some ridiculous narrative about how it wasn't really that bad or whatever, but nobody outside of your insular cult of Duffield sycophants believes that. Topic: [POLL] Scammiest shitcoin of all time https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1001604.0DARKCOIN - 5 (6%)
DARKCOIN REBRANDED AS DASH - 38 (45.2%)
CLOAK - 5 (6%)
NEUCOIN - 1 (1.2%)
DIAMOND - 1 (1.2%)
PAYCOIN - 34 (40.5%) This is only the beginning. Just wait until Dash Classic sponsors an episode of DailyDash, oops, I mean DailyDecrypt. Then you will learn the true meaning of narrative control....  Thank you so much for so eloquently proving my point. Who's side are you on? |
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Dash is a respectable, highly advanced, top candidate to be the future Internet of Money, and it's time that someone stood up and told the truth about it in a highly conspicuous place.
"The lady doth protest too much, methinks" Ha! Well you have to understand what I'm dealing with here: "A tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing." Thanks for that. To be scammed, or not to be scammed, that is the question: Whether it's nobler in the mind to resign yourself with delusions of outrageous fortune, Or to take arms against a sea of lies And by opposing, end them. To reveal--to free... See, that was creative! I'm starting to like you. You are welcome in Dash Nation any time you'd like. Come join a winning team! I'd hate to see you wasting your talents like this... Props! |
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You don't control the narrative. The facts control the narrative. Ouside of the Evan's Gate cult of bagholders, Dash is widely despised, being infamous for its profitable and conveniently "accidental" instamine, bad crypto, and snake oil HYIP marketing. You cannot rewrite this history. The more you try, the more we laugh at you. Keep laughing. You have no facts. I'm presenting the facts on my website. All you guys have is spin, innuendo and persistence. Keep laughing. If someone would like to see the facts, see here: www.rebelmouse.com/dashnation. And if Dash is despised outside of Dash Nation, it's only because you and your merry men have controlled the narrative about Dash through your "facts". No more, amigo, this ends today. |
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Dash is a respectable, highly advanced, top candidate to be the future Internet of Money, and it's time that someone stood up and told the truth about it in a highly conspicuous place.
"The lady doth protest too much, methinks" Ha! Well you have to understand what I'm dealing with here: "A tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing." Thanks for that. |
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Looks like we managed to shake the hornets nest a bit Tao Damage control in full swing now too i see ... Damn those hornets look pissed off. Yeah, they need to be put in their place. They've been allowed to control the narrative for too long. Those days are over. Dash is a respectable, highly advanced, top candidate to be the future Internet of Money, and it's time that someone stood up and told the truth about it in a highly conspicuous place. Dash Nation has every reason to be proud and positive about their present and future, without dealing with mistruths and innuendo. The buck stops here. The more they post, the better it will be for Dash through the education of readers. Thanks for visiting! #DashNation |
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Bump of the OP: https://www.rebelmouse.com/dashnation/the-internet-1715527827.html
I just love how the pro-Dash narrative of this thread is bringing out all of the trolls to attack me at the same time in typical school-boy bully fashion!
Sorry, but there is nothing wrong with the ANN... no premine, and the launch time was posted as indicated above. Those are the facts, not spinning facts to suit your purposes. Was it perfect? No. Was it a scam? Absolutely no proof to indicate is was anything other than Evan's boyish enthusiasm which he continues to show to this day. Its one of his best qualities, and will serve Dash Nation well in the future.
Maybe you need to bring some more bullies... then people will believe your stories...
What I think is that the following information is conspicuously missing from any Dash media and it isn't there because it shows (contrary to what the dash ANN says) an unfair launch that was purposely distorted. scams seem to quite well it is a shame
it is a shame  documented evidence of the scam... Let's take a look at the first 5 h of Darkcoin (XCoin at that time)... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg4589219#msg4589219Edufield said (after failed launch) that he will wait the next day to launch DRK (XCoin at that time) it is 11 pm. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg4591407#msg4591407 Edufield disregard windows wallet and daemon and hurry up his launch, presumably to not have windows miners on board. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg4592827#msg4592827Edufield say he added four nodes for the launch at 4 am (5 hours later, despite his promise to wait). The 4 nodes from Edufield are 3 amazons AWS + another unknown (whois IP). Launch started at 3h54 am. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg4593601#msg4593601 Edufield said the github version was not updated, nobody could compile and only Edufield was able to mine until that time. It is 5.09 am and Edufield instamined alone 1153 block at 500 DRK + 60 block at reward 277 = 593120 DRK for him alone in about 1 hour. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg4593987#msg4593987 No windows wallet confirmed at 5h47 am, despite a user attempt to make one avaiable, that Edufield dismissed quickly. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg4594096#msg4594096 Illodin, understand dev has instamined alot of coin. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg4595573#msg4595573 From this list of nodes, at 8h34 am (4h40 after launch) there were 50 Amazon AWS node and 50 microsoft cloud computing instamining DRK (checked using IP whois service). This is 100/124 nodes using cloud computing to instamine DRK. We are at block 2870 and block reward is 500. From block 1153-1729 block reward is 277. After that it is 500 again hence 2294 block at 500 + 576 at 277 = 1306552 DRK (worth about 13M$ now) were instamined in less than 5 hour by Edufield and coworkers using about 100 cloud mining instances. Edufield himself instamined in not even 5 h from 600K to 1169K DRK ((1306K-600K)*100/124 + 600K) depending how many of the 100 cloud mining instance were its own. All this while having purposefully set the difficult ridiculously low and block reward 100 times what it is now. From 6M$ - 13M$ in 5 h, Edufield did some lucrative work here! Edufield is nominee for the Master Scammer 2014 award! With this evidence alone I am not sure why he is not sitting in jail yet. I'll let you get back to your marketing via distraction and half-truths. You know I heard the sand people are easily startled, but they'll soon return in greater numbers. Where did I hear that from? Anyway, take care and thank you for your role in allowing me to set the record straight about Dash. :-) |
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Coinsource.com only awarded one of those, and it was to Evan. Now they are defunct and the web site is gone. But let's not forget what a scam pushing POS that place was: Evan won the 2014 Coins Source Proof of Honour (POH) award.
And Obama the Scourge of Libya won the Nobel Peace Prize. At least people GAF about that. Coinsource is a "sponsored content" outfit that isn't even profitable because they have no traffic; it's a poor man's CoinTelegraph. So they are reduced to pumping Dash and Neucoin. Dash  Oh, there's another bully. Welcome to the thread! My website's never been more popular. That angle though is not really very effective. It says nothing terrible about Dash, but more about CoinsSource. You may want to go back to the drawing board. I admire your persistence though! |
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I just love how the pro-Dash narrative of this thread is bringing out all of the trolls to attack me at the same time in typical school-boy bully fashion! Sorry, but there is nothing wrong with the ANN... no premine, and the launch time was posted as indicated above. Those are the facts, not spinning facts to suit your purposes. Was it perfect? No. Was it a scam? Absolutely no proof to indicate is was anything other than Evan's boyish enthusiasm which he continues to show to this day. Its one of his best qualities, and will serve Dash Nation well in the future. Maybe you need to bring some more bullies... then people will believe your stories...
I would like to once again show my appreciation to those who are reading this thread and giving Dash an opportunity to set the record straight from the constant negativity of a few individuals. Wanna know about Dash Nation? I describe the idea behind it here (5:30): http://youtu.be/mtpeuGLaiqsTo find out more about how Dash is building the Internet of Money, see our website (spoiler alert: Evan is not even in charge of this project): www.dash.org/evolutionTo join the conversation, join https://DashTalk.orgRespectfully, Tao (Dash Nation Campaign Founder) |
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Please! Start another thread about Dash. You and your cronies can have a party, roast marshmallows and sing Kumbaya. When you finish conducting the poll, bring it here and show us the scientific results. You do Dash all the service every time you come here to tell your stories by keeping my article about Dash front and centre, plus you are very entertaining.
Dash Nation is moving forward, with a solid plan to become the Internet of Money. Like us or hate us, that is a fact. Our engine is running on all (V12) cylinders. Marketing, development, fiat on-ramp building, and discovery are all moving forward in tandem thanks to Dash's decentralized governance and funding system.
Please, regale us with more tales and accusations which prove nothing. My article should be seen by more people!
If you think this thread is going to provide a good image for dash.... you're more helpful than I ever imagined. It is another one for google to pick up on and reference for people to read in detail about darkcoin scam, xcoin scam and dash scam...oh and evans scam. I am sure your community are as ever pleased with you. Imagine if you had never broken the scam on the main board 2 years ago. You will go down in crypto history taoway. Dark coin destroyer that is how you will be remembered  i am envious of that title if nothing else. Anyway I have things to get on with. I can't be assisting you in fighting dark coin dash coin scams 24/7. Good to have you back though. You know if you say "scam" a few more times, you may rival the amount of times Allen Iverson said "practice" in one of my favorite sports videos: http://youtu.be/eGDBR2L5kzIRepeating the word over and over is a new tactic for you here, but, alas, even that does not make it true. What is true is Dash's dedication to building an exceptional product through their ideas, governance and funding. You take care, as well. |
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Please! Start another thread about Dash. You and your cronies can have a party, roast marshmallows and sing Kumbaya. When you finish conducting the poll, bring it here and show us the scientific results. You do Dash all the service every time you come here to tell your stories by keeping my article about Dash front and centre, plus you are very entertaining.
Dash Nation is moving forward, with a solid plan to become the Internet of Money. Like us or hate us, that is a fact. Our engine is running on all (V12) cylinders. Marketing, development, fiat on-ramp building, and discovery are all moving forward in tandem thanks to Dash's decentralized governance and funding system.
Please, regale us with more tales and accusations which prove nothing. My article should be seen by more people!
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Thank you qwizzie for bringing those valuable pieces of information forward.
And thank you storytellers for continuing to keep us enthralled with the events of 48 hours two years ago. We owe you a debt of gratitude for keeping our memories refreshed. However, as I said earlier, you will not control the narrative of this thread which is focusing on the present and the future of Dash.
Dash has a great team, great technology, governance, funding and is well poised to be the Internet of Money. Dash Nation is growing, and we're always looking for more talent to help us build a true decentralized digital cash, just as Satoshi envisioned it. Something it looks like Bitcoin is incapable of doing.
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