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1141  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 25, 2019, 12:22:50 AM

That's a pretty odd use of the term 'per capita'. Which, of course, is defined as 'per each person'. How can we have 3.54 Americans killed for every American that visits Pakistan?

Per x100,000 capita. It never ceases to amaze me how your troll senses are so keened on picking up any minute issue with the BTC, yet would fail to notice something obvious like SV scam even if CSW came in riding in on a tank which is positioned on the aircraft carrier with the word SCAM written on a side
1142  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 25, 2019, 12:12:39 AM
If there was an additional tax for each children you have instead of social benefits maybe they would have a second thought... or maybe not Sad

It's also ironical that the same people that complain there are not enough jobs are the ones making new babies... for which they can't even provide basic education and life advice.

Paying for other people to breed has always turned my stomach, that is one of the biggest faults of governments.

If you can't afford them don't fucking spit them out!


That's exactly what I am saying.


I've had 2 chicks get abortions (both on birth control : I found out later one lied about that) and one had a miscarriage (was gonna marry her).

And one told me I knocked her up and didn't tell me after the kid was born. I told her send me a hair sample and I'll support it and she never would.

I've supported myself since my teens and know what it means to be responsible so I have no respect for these shitbags.

Yep, think that's the dictionary definition of responsibility right here
1143  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 24, 2019, 07:41:29 AM
It affects security and challenges the state power of Thailand and it is intolerable," he said.

Thailand has very specific laws and they can't be ignored ! The ones on men's clothing in particular are very strict.



P.S : got a bit scared reading the first words of that article.

Is that a literal case of the emperor not having clothes?
1144  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 24, 2019, 07:38:59 AM
Guess McAfee sobered up and had to backpedal

Link?

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-04-23/john-mcafee-vows-to-unmask-crypto-s-satoshi-nakamoto-within-days

Quote
After previously telling Bloomberg he would expose Nakamoto “within a week,” he backed off the plan. McAfee said Tuesday on Twitter the controversy could hurt his efforts to fight an extradition to the U.S
1145  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 24, 2019, 07:26:50 AM
Guess McAfee sobered up and had to backpedal
1146  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 24, 2019, 07:24:34 AM
Guess McAfee sobered up and had to backpedal
1147  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 24, 2019, 05:30:46 AM
First Amendment does not mean freedom from consequences.  

If you say “I declare sovereignty” to your cat and continue to pay your taxes, then no, nothing will happen.  

But I don’t think that was what seasteads were about.

And what exactly Elwar did? They just lived there.
You can live like that on a houseboat in the US and nothing will happen.

It's the rhetoric.  

I am quite certain that if you started erecting spars 15 miles out in the gulf of Mexico and posting on FB about your libertarianism and self sovereignty the reaction of the USCG would be swift and unequivocal.

Global enclosure is nearly complete.  I really think that, short of an orbital Lagrange platform, the aircraft carrier is the only way.

But if you were 200km away in true international waters and some nation abducted and wanted to put an American to death, i can see US navy paying a visit to that nation. Elwar just didn't get far enough
1148  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 23, 2019, 08:37:50 AM
New poll should be, if CSW starts suing the trust for keys to the stash, since he has his own chain would you support freezing Satoshi coins on the BTC chain.

You are assuming a lot, aren't you?

You are assuming that the trust story is actually true, and if it were true, then whoever has the keys can do whatever the fuck they want with the coins, including dumping them all.

We don't need to DAO hardfork in bitcoin.  This is not ethereum, and the mere fact that some goofball like craig might gain access to such coins should NOT worry anyone.

It's a hypothetical based on their claims, would it be better if it was reworded to: what if two billionairs are not completely insane and actually have some logic to their madness? I'm having a hard time explaining their actions and timing, so dismissing it off to their stupidity feels like an easy way out. To me that's the biggest risk holding BTC back right now, everything else seems to be going as planned. Trusts cannot do anything with assets they hold but beneficiary can do whatever the fuck they want, and in the wrong hands BTC1MM can do a lot of damage. But as i answered my own question, if that has any merit to being true their first step would be proving that he's Satoshi in the eyes of the government. And if that were to actually happen we would most certainly fork to original and Satoshi's frozen stash chains the next day and then market would assign risks appropriately.
1149  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 23, 2019, 04:27:29 AM
CCMF!
1150  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 22, 2019, 04:48:31 AM
Oh FFS, I was kidding!

 Apologies, brother. Did not read the sarcasm.

 I am a bit troubled with the world today, owing to the unfortunate events in Sri Lanka.

Yeah, me too actually, I wish the muslims would just stop killing innocent people.
If they keep this up it will end very badly for them.

Wait, how are we so sure this is rightly directed towards the Muslim community?
Although I'm not part of a religion, I find it somewhat offensive to see people blindly pointing fingers.

I'd wager that Muslims didn't even have a hand in this.  What could be achieved by a small group of 'terrorists' hurting the public like this? Do they think they'd somehow gain power or control from it, No, not even a small chance!
Now ask the same question: What could be achieved by the 'government' or 'TPTB' sending fear into the public?
Very simple, fear=submission
Ii believe its all power and control tactics used by the state or a globalists agenda.
Seems way to coincidental the past few weeks of religious connected events. NZ, Notre-Dame, and now Sri Lanka.
Comon' Nobody slips on banannas.  
But, but the news said it was the muzlums.  

Dude I'm going to have to tell you about this group of terrorist, it's going to blow your mind and it's a lot more plausible.
They're called ISIS, they're a bunch of fucks and are eating war on anyone that's not like them.
BS, ISIS is a outfit trained and funded by USA and Israel. They are being used as the publics' bogeyman to garner justification for endless war. ISIS, Al-qaeda and the Taliban are all the same puppets.  Further, these factions were created to fight each other and destabilize areas/governments.
Hopefully you were just joking, is that leftists humour?

Seriously some times this fucking rag tag group is just too fucking out there. Like I said in my earlier post I am more libertarian and I am pro Trump, I'll agree the US sucks at thinking through what happens after proxy wars but in no way do I think that ISIS is a continuously backed group  by the US and Israel. I think you fell down a rabbit hole and need to hop out.

First research how many Muslims ISIS killed in comparison to any other religion, and then talk about "Muslims"
1151  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 22, 2019, 04:46:22 AM
I am dumping this BSV and holy shit, jbreher this thing sucks, I have been waiting over an hour and a half for 5 confirmations. How slow are these damn blocks?

Hmm. Explorer shows only 3 txs in Unconfirmed Backlog set: https://svblox.com/unconfirmed-tx . What's your txid?
It just went through, it was fucking dreadful since I was trying to stay up to dump it on Binance but it went through.

Fun fact, binance splits your coins for you from a single bch deposit.

You had BSV  Cheesy wait in order to get BSV you had to have bcash  Grin , you all kind of special, no no i'm sorry carry on
1152  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 20, 2019, 02:42:44 AM
Is finex faking volume too now? Those huge volume spikes cannot look more like wash trades if they tried.
1153  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 20, 2019, 02:03:26 AM
Satoshi coins belongs to Satoshi. It's up to him whatever he wants to do with it. He can give it to anyone be it his granny or grandchildren or throw away all his keys it's his decision and freezing someone's coins is ridiculous thing to say.

That's another discussion,  if out of blue he starts to dump his coins on us which is very unlikely because he didn't touched his stash so far but if he does then arguably many of us fucked for sure.

And we can't blame him if he decides to dump his stash because at some point we all gonna sell our stash too.

You're missing the point. If Craig has the private keys he's free to spend them as he wishes regardless of who he is. The problem arises if Satoshi was Dave Kleiman and Hal Finney...and ?? locking the keys in the trust, and now CSW trying to establish himself as Satoshi so later he could get his hands on those keys unchallenged, since you know dead men don't talk.

May be I am missing the point or may be I am ignoring any conspiracy and fiction theory. When we use if if if that much time in any argument then it's just a assumption and we are shooting in a dark. Good for brainstorming or discussion but not worth it much IMHO.

Sometimes we should leave the all series of events to time and see how it goes.



I'm not sure if this would qualify as a black swan event (i know it wasn't you but someone else assigned this to a black swan event) if we have a billionair and a multi-millionaire (CSW?) going on record saying for years that this will happen. This is not purely hypothetical scenario, it's what the other side is claiming and so far all their action (and already millions spent) are pointing in that direction. Regardless of the likelyhood you assign to this scenario completely ignoring this might be at your own peril. I'm yet to hear another logical explanation for their moves and specifically trying to prove that CSW is Satoshi in court now. There is in no way this is a money lawsuit and he doesn't need a court to prove he's Satoshi.
1154  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 19, 2019, 03:51:05 AM
Satoshi coins belongs to Satoshi. It's up to him whatever he wants to do with it. He can give it to anyone be it his granny or grandchildren or throw away all his keys it's his decision and freezing someone's coins is ridiculous thing to say.

That's another discussion,  if out of blue he starts to dump his coins on us which is very unlikely because he didn't touched his stash so far but if he does then arguably many of us fucked for sure.

And we can't blame him if he decides to dump his stash because at some point we all gonna sell our stash too.

You're missing the point. If Craig has the private keys he's free to spend them as he wishes regardless of who he is. The problem arises if Satoshi was Dave Kleiman and Hal Finney...and ?? locking the keys in the trust, and now CSW trying to establish himself as Satoshi so later he could get his hands on those keys unchallenged, since you know dead men don't talk.
1155  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 19, 2019, 03:16:26 AM
New poll should be, if CSW starts suing the trust for keys to the stash, since he has his own chain would you support freezing Satoshi coins on the BTC chain.

No, there is no reason ever to freeze coins.

You just reminded me of ETC so to answer my own question if that would to happen we would most definitely fork to a CSW with BTC1mil coins chain and Satoshi's frozen coins chain. In any case to escape this worst case scenario the CSW's I am Satoshi claims must be feverishly challenged now, as it might be too late when/if the keys turn out to be in the trust.
1156  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 19, 2019, 02:58:10 AM
-McAffe stated on twitter that Satoshi still has access to the stash

My guess is that Mr. Mcafee's reveal hinted at this week will be Satoshi as himself and then he'll tell us that you're Satoshi too and then we'll feel all warm inside and that.

Why he would have a clue who he is is beyond me. By 2009 he was well into his jungle freak phase and before that it was yoga and microlights for many years. And if he did have the vaguest hint why did he not pile in in 2009/10/11/12/13 and more? By the time he arrived Satoshi was long gone and no one else has ever claimed to know. I can't see anyone cheerfully telling him over a line of drain cleaner a few years down the road.


Regardless of how you feel about him, if he has access to the private keys he has the coins. But at this stage it's pretty obvious that he doens't have the keys, the problem comes from some  judge deciding that he's Satoshi and ordering the trust to hand the keys to him (or allocating a chunk to him)

I don't know or care what the endgame is but there's no evidence of this trust either.

CSW been claiming that the keys are in that Tulip Trading Trust not to be distributed before 1/1/2020. It's just too much of a coincidence that he's starting his lawsuit on establishing himself as Satoshi now.

yeah....the 3 theory with Dave Kleiman and Hal Finney as the other 2 in the group (who have passed) ...my worst nightmare is he is right and they did put all the 'test coins' into
a tulip trust, that the last man standing can access. Jan 1st, 2020...being the weak link of the trio and the last man standing..that is the nightmare scenario to me (1 out of 50 chance of true IMHO) ...so if Craig Wright does get access to all that BTC he could play the same game as Bitcoin Cash and  crash BTC into BSV or some other silliness if he drove the price down enough on selling massively..it would make the 'tulip mania' of the middle ages look tame by comparison.

Anyway, like all 'nightmares' it is extremely unlikely, but still, if BTC was gonna go 'tulips' at this point in time, IMHO, it would take some classic unlikely event like this to do so...

Craig Wright as a 'black swan event' ...sh*t just scared myself Smiley (Again, 1-50 chance..but damn that would suck) Sad



I don't think that the last man standing idea would stand in courts, plus i doubt that Hal was even thinking of not being with us in 2020, not sure about Dave. If we follow that train of thought, the more likely case is CSW just "being in the room" thus why he needs to establish himself as Satoshi now so he can put a claim on all of the coins, rather than having them distributed to Dave's Hal's etc??? estates.
1157  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 19, 2019, 02:27:25 AM
-McAffe stated on twitter that Satoshi still has access to the stash

My guess is that Mr. Mcafee's reveal hinted at this week will be Satoshi as himself and then he'll tell us that you're Satoshi too and then we'll feel all warm inside and that.

Why he would have a clue who he is is beyond me. By 2009 he was well into his jungle freak phase and before that it was yoga and microlights for many years. And if he did have the vaguest hint why did he not pile in in 2009/10/11/12/13 and more? By the time he arrived Satoshi was long gone and no one else has ever claimed to know. I can't see anyone cheerfully telling him over a line of drain cleaner a few years down the road.


Regardless of how you feel about him, if he has access to the private keys he has the coins. But at this stage it's pretty obvious that he doens't have the keys, the problem comes from some  judge deciding that he's Satoshi and ordering the trust to hand the keys to him (or allocating a chunk to him)

I don't know or care what the endgame is but there's no evidence of this trust either.

CSW been claiming that the keys are in that Tulip Trading Trust not to be distributed before 1/1/2020. It's just too much of a coincidence that he's starting his lawsuit on establishing himself as Satoshi now.
1158  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 19, 2019, 02:10:53 AM
New poll should be, if CSW starts suing the trust for keys to the stash, since he has his own chain would you support freezing Satoshi coins on the BTC chain.

No.

I can't stand CSW, I would be deeply saddened if he actually had ANYTHING to do with BTC, which I think he has not.  I think it is a very small chance that he could possibly end up with satoshi's private keys.

But if he did...

We would HAVE TO allow him to do as he pleases with them.  It would do terrible damage to BTC, and the crypto space as a whole.  It would likely set back BTC by 10+ years.

But forking away value on the blockchain is a central bank move.  WE CANNOT DO IT.

Regardless of how you feel about him, if he has access to the private keys he has the coins. But at this stage it's pretty obvious that he doens't have the keys, the problem comes from some  judge deciding that he's Satoshi and ordering the trust to hand the keys to him (or allocating a chunk to him)
1159  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 19, 2019, 02:04:34 AM
New poll should be, if CSW starts suing the trust for keys to the stash, since he has his own chain would you support freezing Satoshi coins on the BTC chain.
What trust? Nobody knows who has Satoshi's keys or even if they still exist.

That's the only way i can explain their move. There's no money in CSWs defamation of character lawsuits, and we all know some Judge's ruling in some jurisdiction won't do much to anonymous comments on the internet. But there is also no way a trustee would distribute any funds if identity of the beneficiary is being challenged. Establishing identity during distribution would be exponentially more difficult with more challengers because the stakes are that much higher, but if he can get some low level Judge to "establish" the identity of Satoshi before that it would potentially pave the way to unchallenged distribution (or make challenging it that much harder). Of course billionairs being retards and burning millions for no logical reason whatsoever would be the best case scenario, but it'd would be really dumb to not plan for contingencies.

-McAffe stated on twitter that Satoshi still has access to the stash
-Ayre is hinting that CSW might be a group of 3
-CSW managed to bamboozle Gavin, and managed to convince Ayre to bankroll his cause
1160  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 19, 2019, 12:59:55 AM
New poll should be, if CSW starts suing the trust for keys to the stash, since he has his own chain would you support freezing Satoshi coins on the BTC chain.
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