I've been assessing the labels I supply with the bars, can a few of you guys tell me if you used the inkjet- or laserjet labels? I'm feeling it might be a bit wasteful including them both, but I do like that it gives my customers the flexibility to use different printers for the labels, what do you think?
Are you referring to the blank labels that are used for the private key, and are covered by the holo? If so, in my case, I just printed my own paper and cut it. I didn't use either of your labels. |
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While I realize a lot of other sellers do holograms, and they aren't tamper-proof, I personally like the look of them. Without them, they feel more like mass-produced tokens.
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Will the prospective gold coins be the same diameter and thickness as the regular doge coins you have previously made or will they be a different size?
A 1 oz Gold coin would normally be smaller than a 1 oz Silver. I'm guessing for a 1/2 oz Gold, this would be around 27mm diameter or less. So it would be smaller. |
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Will both the silver and the gold highlight bars use the same design? Of course, it adds cost to another die, so I'm assuming not. If they are different, I might lean to getting one of each.
Does the mining picture show what the plating might be for the gold highlight version?
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Slight edit guys and gals. Will be running two versions of the bar in this batch. Numbers 1-12 will come with the gold highlights and numbers 13-25 will come without gold highlights. I will be charging the same to keep things simple.
Good idea. Now these bars are even more limited in each version. May have to consider getting one of each. Decisions... |
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OK, I'm in. Preordered and paid for #2 via your website. Lets get this project started.
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Any rough idea what the dimensions will be? I believe the Casascius bar was 80 mm x 40mm x 6mm.
In that general ballpark. I am in discussion with a couple of mints to insure the best quality product for the best price and size is not 100% standard. Response from one mint is: The 5oz bar is 2.6 X 1.4 and the thickness is 0.2810. OK Thanks. Doing the math, if thats inches, then 66mm x 35mm x 7 mm. Personally, I'd prefer the Length and Width to be larger at the expense of the Depth. In the end I realize it depends on what the mints can do and what plastic cases and leatherette box they can fit in. |
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A very nice idea, but I don't like unfunded stuff.  If you make a funded bar, l'll buy it. Personally I think its best to buy unfunded coins/bars, etc. Its cheaper to buy them since you're not paying for the cost of the bitcoin, and you can always fund them yourself. If they're DIY, as appears in this case, you can also trust that the private keys are safe. All of F*D have been unfunded up to this point I believe. I will say that if DIY, then its harder to resell to anyone else if there's bitcoin loaded, since someone else has to trust that the individual didn't compromise the private key as opposed to the coin maker, so it can affect the resale market, if loaded. Added general mock-up layout to OP. Will have more refined images as I finish working with the mint.
So far, I like #2 better. Any rough idea what the dimensions will be? I believe the Casascius bar was 80 mm x 40mm x 6mm. |
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I'm fine either way. I do like the limited runs of 25 and I would like the bar to look nice. Not sure how many ounces are needed for that Casascius bar look. I like Gold highlights on Silver personally. This could be a very special and unique piece that could prove popular.
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nice watch.
Probably never will spend that much on a watch.
But then again some people pay millions for custom made 24k gold watches.
Who knows!
Or thousands for a Wooden B... <ducks> Sorry blazed...just had to...  |
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ok please be aware. i am 99% sure this watch is a fake.
why?
well from the first picture itself. see the SECOND pointer is not directly on the pointer but most likely 1/4 after it. well rolex is a precision watch. i have 3 real and 2 high copy fakes (china) [[can show pictures if you want]]
i have checked all the watches just few minutes back. the fakes does not stick directly on , but most likely 1/4 off and the other one 1/2 off.
i am not discouraging anyone to buy, just make sure you get the original rolex payment slip (not another one for this model) they need to be 1:1 to the manually written model code inside the watch.
Escrow for this deal is very much compulsory.
I respect your caution, but I have no doubt that Gray and Sons sells only authentic watches. I'd be very interested to see the issue you mention in any pictures you have. I used to collect watches, so its more of a personal curiosity to see what you're looking at. Maybe the OP can comment on this? |
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Ok guys. I have dove a little deeper into this to determine more accurate pricing. I think 50 pieces will be too many and take too long to get commitments to proceed so am thinking more along the 25 piece range. This means it will be a bit more expensive per piece as there will be less minted to absorb the overhead cost but will allow for quicker project funding/progression and of course the pieces will be more rare.
As I crunch the numbers more, it looks like pricing for this smaller batch would be closer to $325 per piece + shipping and handling. Each would come with a custom stamped leatherette presentation case, plastic protective capsule and also a new hologram design. I am thinking of requiring $200 down per piece on pre-order with the balance of $125 plus shipping and handling due when product is ready to ship.
Also, before it comes up, I would reserve #1 for my son.
Let me know if there is interest and if it sounds like enough, I will get some designs put together and start a formal thread.
How about if I name my first born "GATOR"...can I have #1? Seriously though, I'm in for one of these. Would it be a 5 oz solid silver Bitcoin bar? Maybe with a Gold Plated B? Hmmm? |
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What is that green sticker in the back of the watch?
Most if not all Rolex have a green sticker on the back which has the Model number. Some people may remove theirs once they start wearing it. |
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As we discussed earlier...I'll take one of each DRK and ETHER. I'm in the US
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Not sure if you guys realize but running a small batch of 50 pure silver bars would be pretty expensive. The end price point for each would be around $250 for a 5 oz bar or $500 each for a 10 oz bar.
If this revelation didn't kill 99% of the interest in such a product I would be shocked - but this is why you do not see such a product in the market at this time. I am as always willing to do this but would have to go the preorder route as I would not be willing to devote this much capital into such a project - plus my wife would kill me lol.
Well Ognasty is selling 5oz silver rounds for 400$ each. At 250$ for a 5oz bar, that still sounds like a reasonable deal. Thats true. There were 20 or so preorders for the 5oz from Ognasty. These are priced at $400. So you may get some interest in a 5 oz or less solid silver bar. And if gilt plated for just the B as well....that would be great. |
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I am looking into a BTC bar option now but it would be copper/brass alloy that is plated in either gold or silver like the Ether and DRK pieces. Size would be 2" in diameter. This does not exactly match the described ideal that I have seen in this thread so far so please let me know if this is of interest or not. I will elaborate on price point as I work out more details but shouldn't be too much more than the Ether and DRK lines (will be a bit more due to larger size and shape).
Just my 2 bits. A gold plated copper alloy bar doesn't sound bad, but 2" is pretty small. A 6" by 1.5" sort of shape/size is good. thoughts? I think a Casascius bar was 80mm or a little over 3" in length. Even these looked a little small. I think 2" is way too small and too similar to the CGB bars made by F*D. I'm fine with any material, but prefer a polished silver or gold, or gilt silver plate. I'd like to keep the edition size to 100 or less to keep these limited. |
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Something a little different. A bitcoin bar. Casascius was the only one to make these, I'm sure you could up the game!
Ok, added to the poll. Thank you for the suggestion  Technically, F*D made a bar with their Cryptogenic Bullion. But perhaps a bar in a different form...more Casascius-looking in that its longer, and gold plated Longer, bigger, heavier with a nice big bitcoin sign. Glit silver would be pretty nice I think. +1 I would also go for that. |
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I think we have enough physical coins for now.
While I agree there's a lot of them out there, if someone doesn't want one, they don't have to buy it. But for those like myself that collect, I welcome more. As long as they sell, and have a fresh look and/or holo, makers should be welcome to continue making them. |
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Something a little different. A bitcoin bar. Casascius was the only one to make these, I'm sure you could up the game!
Ok, added to the poll. Thank you for the suggestion Technically, F*D made a bar with their Cryptogenic Bullion. But perhaps a bar in a different form...more Casascius-looking in that its longer, and gold plated |
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