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1181  Local / Off-topic (Naija) / Re: Stay patient 🤞 on: December 20, 2023, 08:18:25 PM

My bothers and sisters patience na the only way to see front for this business oo, everything for this space they work with time, investing in crypto  be like when somebody plant tree, make I ask, when you plant tree na that thesame day or month or year you go chop the fruit? Shabi you go wait for the tree to mature first before e get fruit? Na so cryto investment dey  too.
So as e stands so, my people na the tree we dey plant so.
Make we no let pepper body spoil am for us,
The least way you fit invest just do am and wait patiently.
My people, we can talk later,
Make I go find something chop 😋😋
One thing that Bitcoin most especially have taught me is patience and timing,  it is very important to give a long-term perspective to everything we do at all times and this includes the timing we allocate to our investments and how we follow up with our plans without giving in to pressures as there may come along the way,  many who have witnessed most loses in this cryptocurrency industry at those who take cryptocurrencies as a get rich scheme and not a journey because most time it takes a long time for your investment to materialized and to record a significant profits this is most suitable for all time and at most the best journey motivation for me.

Taking Bitcoin or everything related to this industry as a journey and on a long-term basis is what makes for why and how we take and experience the outcome of everything that we do as we journey heads,  but above all,  we need all the motivations that we can get and we should and must try as much as possible to stick to the path that can lead to a profitable future as an asset which is bitcoin and try as much as possible to avoid any crypto coin that give us too high profits promises most times these coins are just pump and dump projects,  and should only be considered as a gamble and nothing more to that.
1182  Economy / Gambling / Re: The most trusted casinos on BTalk on: December 20, 2023, 07:43:12 PM
We all have individuals different tastes from the way we use a gambling platform, what entice you may be what i frown on at, so there are many crypto gambling platform we can choose from a range right from the numbers of those having their signature campaign ongoing and they also have an active announcement thread for their service discussions, likewise we are more proficient than each other in gambling.
That is it because what may be appealing to you may be displeasure for me,  but then also we have to know that at some point we have what we can generally agree with and at the end come out with a generally accepted stand on it and when it comes to the issues with best casinos and reputation we all have one objective for them and at such individual differences will be put at rest at that point since what we talking is what concerns all gamblers.

Take a scam casino for example,  no individual will ever want to get scammed so no matter what the individual difference is at that point we will have to come to one term about the issues which is a scam and nothing to add,  and both and everyone will have to accept that unless the other is part of the scam if not we all will have the same stand on the same casino.

1183  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in-$200 FreeBTC⭐Win Lambo🔥0.2BTC DailyJackpot🏆$32,500 Wager Contest on: December 20, 2023, 07:32:53 PM
Well, I am very sure who exactly owns this platforms, but what I do know is that they are all a sister company to freebitco, my guess may not be far from being right if I say that the same founders who set up freebitco are the same people who set up Dplay casino and XFUN bet/Arcade.

And besides, I do not think that XFUN bet and XFUN arcade are a different platforms, this two are possibly under the same management, but have different urls (possibly) to separate the betting platform from the arcade platform.

I hope you make do with this, or maybe someone else with a more accurate information could share, I did be happy to learn too.

I think all sites are under the management of freebitco.in as you can connect your freebitco.in account to dplay. TheQuin will be better placed to answer this but all sites are probably owned by wetsuit and are thus safe to play in without the risk of getting scammed.
Exactly the same thing I was driving at when I said the same Founders who set up FreeBitco are the same people that set up those other platforms, the fact that we can connect our FreeBitco account to those other platforms, just as you have said, is a testament to that.

And speaking of scam, even if those other casinos are owned by different people or a different management, as long as FreeBitco is promoting and supporting them, it clearly means that the casinos are safe to transaction on, since I personally believe that, FreeBitco will never want to get involved with a platform they do not trust, not with the kind of trustworthiness and reputation they have managed to build for them self over the years.
Partnership is something that has worked for new platforms and for some reason in the past we have seen a lot of new casinos coming out under an already established casino most especially those that have already gained the market and built a good reputation for themselves and that way,  it comes easy for the new casino to easily gain the attention of the public via the help of the old established ones.

But also this comes with its own risks for both projects since whatever affects the one also will affect the other in terms of reputation if any of them go out of the good book it will rob on all other affiliates,  but then that is why the big casinos with reputation will do whatever it takes to protect the business.
1184  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: All thanks to my family they contributed and bought bitcoin for me on: December 20, 2023, 07:12:36 PM
Bitcoin shouldn't be an object that will put you in depression just because the next half is around the corner,  just know that Bitcoin is still at its early stage and just getting to widespread adoption with still low percentage of the general public being aware of Bitcoin, so for sure,  there will be multiple chances to always get into Bitcoin at every discounted opportunities along the way,  many time we failed to note that and tend to push ourselves so much to acquire the largest sum or even declaring that we already lost out on the discounted bitcoin price and that why some people make statements such as bitcoin is already expensive.

1185  Economy / Gambling / Re: Does anyone find the spate of online casinos a bit uninspired? on: December 20, 2023, 06:27:13 PM
I have never really been a person who cares about the design aspect of software as much as I favor a fully functional, easy-to-use, and bug-free platform. An online casino that looks good but functions badly is of no use to me. I am interested in sports betting, and if the odds are higher than what I can find locally in my neighbourhood, that's all I care about. I am not that into casino games, but they are all basically the same, no matter how the site looks.   
The functionality of the casino is the most important thing and how easy and friendly their games software are also is what makes for what should be called a good casino and not the design,  because the graphic design may have little to nothing to do with the functionality and at that,  it's very ok to see some casino who may not have that 100% clear design but with excellent services coming up to make the most of the presence here since their tend to offer the best to their clients.

Most times, the majority of the scam casinos are the ones with the best design all to lure clients into their casino and for sure it will definitely attract them but in the long run, it will end in regret at the end.
1186  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🐺 wild.io 🎰 Wheel of Fortune 🎁 Daily Rewards 🔥 10 Minutes Cashouts on: December 20, 2023, 04:49:22 PM
This thread hasn't been bumped over 120 days but OP was edited last December 12,  let me bump this thread for free. Thanks to the signature campaign, I probably would never have discovered this website and thread without that signature campaign. 😅

Hopefully, you can also have a contest or exclusive promo for BitcoinTalk community. You can visit Game & Round section for some ideas: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=71.0
I also never know that thos thread exist before now,  and if I have commented here,  but I am surprised that this ANN has been around since January but has not been actively commented on since the last 120 days and just now that the signature campaign launch made me to check this ANN,  well for that I think going forward,  this thread will receive more attention from members of this forum since many who may not have noticed this casino will start seeing their advert on signature and for such it will increase their visibilities to some point.

I wish the team all the best and let the admin try as much as possible to be more active here in the thread because not long from now, there will be traffic inflows and many will want to get the attention of the admin on several cases that may have to do with their services in the market.
1187  Economy / Gambling / Re: The most trusted casinos on BTalk on: December 20, 2023, 04:38:47 PM
Stake   12/18/2023   ?   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5478418.0
Fortunejack   12/18/2023   ?   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5478417.0

These two were just added so the credibility is to be determined.
Both seem credible, but they aren't really scams commited by the sites themselves. The gambler on Stake lost his money to a hacker since he didn't enable 2FA which implies that fault lies on both sides here.

In the FJ case, it seems that a third party is responsible for the issue and FJ is already trying to resolve the issue.
The case which happened to the stake user is definitely the fault of the user and not stake, so I am going to disagree with you when you say it's the fault of both sides.

Stake have done their best in providing good security features for their users, Stake still can not be the one to turn on those security features for the user, a user is solely responsible for turning on any of the security features he or she feels he or she needs, and leave the ones he or she thinks is irrelevant to him or her, if a user having good amount of money on his or her stake account doesn't find it needful to turn on 2fa for the safety of their funds, then whatever happens that leads to the user losing those funds, that is clearly his or her fault and not the fault of the Casino.

On telegram, I belong to a high rollers group, and those guys play majorly on Stake, the group has over 800 members, and the majority of them has nothing less than $400,000 on their respective stake accounts which they use for gambling and sports betting, for around eight months I've been in that group, no one of them have ever complained of losing his or her money on stake, aside the money lost to gambling.
Some times,  some of the cases that are coming against some of the reputable casinos are pour lack of experience and knowledge from the gambler,  how can you be blaming a casino for your own mistakes,  because most times,  those who come up with all these accusations when checked properly are the main reasons why they had that problem in the first place,  for example,  how can anyone who failed to read the terms and conditions of a casino come out to blame that casinos simply because their demand for KYC along the line?

So if such a gamble should come out to accuse being locked out from the casino due to non-kyc non-availability or unable to meet the KYC requirements it becomes very obvious that he failed on his part to take note of details and that shouldn't be blamed on the casino on the long run, the reason why we still have some of those cases untreated is that the casinos have already taken their stand on that case and they won't go back to change things just to favour particular players.
1188  Economy / Gambling / Re: Casinos not asking for KYC to register and play, but do require it to withdraw on: December 20, 2023, 04:19:17 PM
I had an experience like this, I presented a driving license but was then told a birth certificate sent physically to be examined would be required.  Suffice to say I never got my cash back, it wasnt a large amount and I arbitraged some of it.  This site sponsored a major esports team and the entire site packed up a while later and left people without returning balances unfortunately.    Problem is some requests will be genuine but I should have known as soon as they started moving the goal posts for requirements.
This is one big lesson we should learn, any business doesn't just fold up over night, there are usually signs like the one you said leading to their exit.

Something similar happened to me but it was with a crypto exchange, though not related to kyc, but related  to signs some of this platforms show before they pack up.
I was a very active user of Bkex exchange, I was already kyc verified so they had no way of asking kyc again, they used to process withdrawals very fast, no matter the amount of money one is withdrawing, but at some point, things changed, them processing even a $100 withdrawal began to take hours, when ever I reached to the customer care to know what is going on, what I usually get was "be patient" you will get your money soon.
This stretched for several months, I should have seen this as a sign and withdraw all my money from the exchange, but really didn't think much of it, after about a month going to two months, they stopped processing withdrawals, I had my $440 in there, and  that was how I lost the money, right now, they are no longer online.

So, yeah, there always signs and if only we can be attentive enough to understand the signs when they begin to show it, maybe we sometimes be quick enough to get our money out before the unexpected happens.
There is truly always a sign that could be picked up as red spot for a company that is about folding up,  or exiting the business without letting the customers know exactly what happens and just as you said my friend five-star, the withdrawal processing is one of the key sign to know when a company like an exchange or any financial companies is trying to fold,  first they will delay your withdrawal for hours some times days,  without reaching out to their general customer's bases that there is a technical glitch.

Once you notice such an act,  just know that the exchange may go off any moment and you should withdraw all your funds if you ever have that chance to do so,  sorry for your loss of $440 in the exit scam exchange,  this is one ugly experience that you have to overcome and take the lesson with you as you journey along,  so for sure,  no company fold up without giving the bad sign and if you are a smart customer,  you already take out your balance on them before there will eventually fold up on you.
1189  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: December 20, 2023, 04:05:41 PM


It will be unwise for the president of Manchester city to start thinking negative of the Manchester city coach, in the person of pep Guardiola simply for losing the trophy a few times when he has also won the trophy consistently for several times, he should know that, there was never a time Manchester city alone will continually keep winning the trophy like they are the only team or club in the premiere league.

If there is one thing that makes happy for the season's Premier league tournament, it's the fact that Manchester city is not going to win, Arsenal is my favorite club, and I hope they win it, but even if they don't end up winning it, and another club does aside Manchester city, I will still be very happy.
Yeah I agree with you on the unwise ness from the Manchester city management if they have chosen to blame the current condition of the club on the coach,  because of just a few back within this period in the premiere leagues and even the championship also,  because as a matter of fact,  the club have reign long enough on the top list of the leagues and if at this first stage of the leagues their failed out,  what is needed of them is to encourage both the coach and the players to deliver more in the next round,   although Manchester city being on the 4th position on the table is something that will definitely border the club owners,  but then,  they should learn from clubs like Chelsea who were not able to manage the crisis and it escalated beyond control when Chelsea management sacked so many coach's and that went a long way to affects the club performance for a long time.

So for sure let the management of Manchester City take such as a lesson and try to work on their team to achieve greater success in the next round more than they did in this round, to be able to reclaim their fading glory as a two-time title holders.
1190  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ⚡ BullBear.Fun ⚡ WEB3 Prediction Game 🔥 100% Provably Fair & on-chain 🔥 on: December 20, 2023, 03:51:42 PM
Lolz why not BearBull instead bullbear. That is upside down nothing in this world grow from up to down but down to up. So your casino is irony of the domain name. And your side is not opening in mobile phone I tried to own it from mobile phone but it was just loading and loading so I have to cut it off. Your presentation of the ANN thread is okay but we have to check the features of the site before we can make a meaningful contribution to the site. And from there we can make some temporal review to the site, though probably the continued loading is from my side and not your site.
The domain name indeed sounds funny to the ear Bullbeer,  but then I think they choose that domain name based on the nature of the platform and what service the rendering,  some of these casinos choose their domain name according to the nature of their platform and this is one such instance sp for sure let not be too harsh on them on that aspect and let try to accommodate them,  although you are right in what you said about the starting from up down because it's always bear to bull and not the bull to bear that the ops chose,  but then it is what it is regardless and let look out for a better part of the project on the long run.

Meanwhile, on your inability to access the site via mobile,  I think that is a technical or network issue from your end as I was able to access the site via my phone before writing this comment,  so if you are interested in knowing more about the casino,  you can retry again to see if it works.
1191  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Who should quit, and why? on: December 20, 2023, 03:22:32 PM
Hey house someone need a few clips here, don't know if a post of this exact nature has been discussed though.

In a situation where the both spouse are gambleHu gambles, wife gambles, how can both of them manage the situation in terms of finance and the family affairs especially when children are now involve so that the time both spends on gambling doesn't affect family moments and affairs in general.

Would it help if  one of the couple quit for the other and if that's the case who should quit for who.

This is not a simple situation. But who will feel better if the spouse leaves? Second spouse, children? No, this is not a solution to the issue; it is simply an evasion of responsibility. It will be better for the family if none of the spouses leaves, but both quit playing if they cannot control it and problems have already arisen. If one of them just stops playing, this will not solve the issue, because the second one will sooner or later bring him back. This is an addiction, but God will help you cope with any addiction, including gambling.
Gambling on it's own is risky and at to have both spouses are gambling uncontrollably it becomes a big problem and just as you said,  having one of them quitting and leaving the other one person behind is of grave danger but if both decide to take the rough path to quite it works better.

Better still they could consult a doctor if there be any possible medical help that can be rendered to them since it is obvious that,  quitting gambling on your own may be hard are almost impossible at some point and if both of them decide to do it on they own,  it should be that there must be a change of environment and also changes in a lot of things the couples do to be able to quit and not slide back to their addictions again easily.

As you said in your last paragraph,  seeking spiritual help from God is ultimate,  but then if that is done with the mindset that a miracle will happen and they just overcome the addictions overnight,  it may also become hard,  but if the spouse prays and works hard,  they will eventually defeat the addictions that are worrying them.
1192  Economy / Gambling / Re: Betnomi | Project status & Refund Plan! on: December 19, 2023, 11:20:00 PM
Hello  Smiley

As a former customer of Betnomi as well, I'm very happy to see Betnomi coming back here and doing this refund instead of just leaving us in the dark (which would be an easy thing to do but Betnomi looks to take the honest way regarding this). Kudos if former customers can really get a refund here.  Smiley
Submitted my form as well just yesterday for my small amount still in my account (but hard to remeber the exact amount as Betnomi is down for a very long time already).


Fact is that,  the team have every opportunities to run away without any refund since their already know that the Betnomi as a former brand can not be used again,  and also team being able to come under another identity and then continuing from their,  I think that approach could have look as good and way for them to avoid refunding old customers.

But despite all that,  the team decide to come out and make statement on the state of things and what we as a community stand to benefit from if there is anyone who lost money in Betnomi during their company crisis,  so this is a highly commendable character for the team to have taken this route and I am sure with good reputation,  the new brand will gain visibly faster,  so that shouldn't worry us as long as the team keep up with their refund process to regain the trust of everyone.
1193  Economy / Speculation / Re: Can anyone be a Bitcoin speculation expert? on: December 19, 2023, 11:07:08 PM
This is just an opinion from me mate.  If the price of Bitcoin will experience ups and downs, it's just a matter of how much it goes down and how much it goes up before the halving occurs.  So it's best if you want to make a purchase, always monitor prices at all times so you don't miss the latest news.
This is nothing but just the speculation of another newbies and just as I mentioned in one of my comment earlier that newbies should stop using dump to refer to bitcoin price dip because at the level and percentage at which those dip happens,  it still not significant enough to make the conclusion and call it a dump,  just as if Bitcoin os some form of those shit coins that we have in the market and that do always fall in their price without any possible recovery attempts,  so for sure it is better to call it just dip instead of forcing Bitcoin into the same category of some of those shitcoins who dump and pump at will.

So for sure bitcoin will definitely touched some amount in price that could be referred to as the best discounted price for the coin and any investor that bought at that price will be at good advantage anytime the price goes up.
1194  Economy / Gambling / Re: How to self exclude from anonymous gambling sites on: December 19, 2023, 10:20:36 PM
Even though as we all understand that casinos cannot perform the same functions as mixers, but can be used to serve the purpose for some time, when we are to talk also about KYC, then i think there's much to discuss since most of the KYC requirements challenges are coming from the gamblers themselves and not the rate of attacks raged by them because of what they experience when thy are not complying with the mandatory conditions for KYC as well.
Even at the time that we think casino could provide some form of windows to be used as mixer,  it still not work that way and only those with low or no knowledge that take casino to mean or provides mixer services or being used as an avenue for money laundering,  many time we failed to recognize the possibilities and it limitation and focus on the ability to deposit into casino get your deposits withdraw from the casino cold wallet which wound have mixed your deposits and that of others gamblers which can be viewed as mixing.

But then also we have to point out some unique feature of the casino that makes them different from a mixer,  which are wager conditions and KYC just as you also mentioned that in your comment,  so for sure these features make casinos far different from mixers services.
1195  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: When do you take out your investment when in profit? on: December 19, 2023, 09:56:20 PM
Then that's good. If you want to take profits with those, you should because if I am on your shoes, I'd take my profit with those alts and won't be having a second thought. Most of these alts are very fluctuating and volatile and that's why you may see it grow more or you'd see a drop and might just give you a disappointment after wards.

One thing I advise on Alticoins is to set a price target for them should they meet the target I would say take off some profit and probably leave some there. If the amount even doubles or triples you can simply just withdraw your own capital and gamble on the rest. This tactics should be used mostly for Tokens most especially meme tokens, because they are mostly pump and dump tokens. If the price begin to significantly increase then be sure to know that some investors most especially those who earned it through airdrops will sell off which will result in price fall
Yeah, I agree with you on the price tag to take profits,  that is the most effective means of taking charge of your investment and not wasting time on something that may not possibly come to reality in the long run,  some time we have seen a coin that did so well at the early stage,  and because of the promises of the team,  some investors will fail to take profits because the waiting and expecting the price to go over the roof before the sell and along the line,  the coin get dump on them and the end up losing all their money along the line.

I based altcoin on a short-term based investment category and I don't mind selling off my holdings if I already make some amount in profits,  because I have learned a lot from my experience when I lost a lot of money trying to wait for a coin to do 10x and it eventually dumps on my face without possible recovery.
1196  Economy / Speculation / Re: High transaction fees affects those who DCA on: December 19, 2023, 09:43:20 PM
. What are your thoughts on this? I feel like I may use the money kept for DCA for other expenses.

To be honest, bitcoin transaction fees are becoming quite annoying for small investors like us. Today I just transferred a small amount of my bitcoin to an exchange to sell for fiat and if I remember correctly with 2 transactions, I lost almost $6 and I'm uncomfortable with the fees. Yes, it's not a large amount of money but $6 for transaction fees is something that makes me feel unsatisfied. I usually don't sell my bitcoins but today I had urgent business so I had to sell some and I was quite surprised at the fee I had to pay.
What we are currently experiencing with bitcoin network fees really sucks and we have no alternative that an totally solve this problem even looking at long term solutions,  I have being having problems moving my Bitcoin around since the past 3 days now and reasons being that the transaction fees are too high considering the amount I am sending, sometimes I which we have an immediate solution to it because this hyke in fees is making Bitcoin unusable for small investors.

And even the big bag Bitcoin holders also suffer from the same since they have to pay high fees just to send Bitcoin around because the amount in fees can be the same as what it used to be before the network hykes,  and no matter the amount the hold it will impact so everyone in the industry is really facing it in this period.
1197  Economy / Speculation / Re: Btc dump to 39600 on: December 19, 2023, 09:28:51 PM
BTC broke 42200 support
Now the target is 39600
Sometimes I wonder why we use terms like dump when discussing speculating Bitcoin price at some point and this is far from what it suppose to be and we should move away from every form of assumption when we want to make such comments,  although it borders me less because those who make such statements are all newbies and that shows their level of understanding of the term,  as we all know that some of the newbies may have been used to the term dump since their involves so much with shitcoins which have affected their overall mentality.

I am sure no old member will use the word dump on Bitcoin since the fall in price is nothing close to making a conclusive statement,  at most we should see the market drop as a correction point for the next phase of the market and even as the price of bitcoin have made less than 4% down in price,  it did not take long before then Price recovers back and it has touched the 4% uptrend within the last 24 hours,  so that shows that Bitcoin shouldn't be consider as a dumping coin at anytime.
1198  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: December 19, 2023, 09:01:25 PM

Girona are in very good form. They are in very good form this season. I don't want to get into an argument about this. But I'd say it's not going to be easy for Girona to win the next two matches.


Rest Betis and Atletico Madrid are two renowned teams of La Liga. Many times we have seen Real Betis team perform well against the big teams and earn points. Although Real Betis' performance this season has been a bit poor, the team has lost only two matches this season. Betis will try their best to get 1 point against Girona. I think this match is more likely to be a draw. On the other hand, anything can happen in Atletico Madrid vs Girona match. Atletico Madrid also have a very strong squad.
Because of the uncertainty of Girona winning the two next match,  reason why I stated in the last paragraph of my comment how it impossible to out rightly predict a winning for any club as long as football is concerned,  everything depends on the 90+ minutes of the game and any opportunities os a chance for the opposition to take advantage of to make difference in their goals points,  many times within this season,  the Girona team players have made such mistakes of allowing opposition to make early score,  which will become hard for them to equalize at some point so we need to watch out for the possible performance in the match before we make any statement.

Although Girona have a better player lineup than the opposition even the number of available players also it's far better than their opposition.
1199  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Introducing bitcoin to the orphans on my birthday on: December 19, 2023, 07:51:22 PM
Ops you have done noble on your birthday by deciding to spend you special day with orphans by gifting them and also impacting Bitcoin knowledge in them,  this is one of the most exciting things that I have been hard on for a while now and I am sure those children will forever be grateful for the show of lovehaveshown shownn towards them.

Indeed our young ones are the future of tomorrow and at that, we have to provide them with all the necessary knowledge they need to grow into the future leaders we have always wanted them to be,  and orphans to grow into that state,  it requires the collaboration of the whole community and not just the caregiver alone,  just like you who have chosen to go that path to show them the best gateway alternative currency that can solve their future financial problems.
1200  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Premier League 2023/2024 Discussion Thread ⚽ on: December 19, 2023, 07:09:58 PM

Manchester City is indeed still the top favorite to win the Premier League despite their current form aligns with the general perception of the team's capabilities. I believe Manchester City remains strongest team in the tittle race even without Kevin de Bruyne. Arsenal is another favorite who need to have ability to learn from past experiences and perform better, because that's the the right mentality to be a champion.

Manchester City was originally favored by champions. But without the presence of KDB and Haaland I saw them losing their best performance. That can be seen from bad results in the last few matches. I think City should start thinking of finding De Bruyne's replacement because he has begun to retire. And I think that as long as De Bruyne and Haaland don't play City will continue to get bad results.
I think the reign of Manchester city seems to be over in both the champion League and the Premier League respectfully since Manchester City have been a twice title holder in both leagues so for now it become a pay back time for them and for such Manchester city have to leave the title for other clubs who are already making good use of the current state of things in the premier leagues to accumulate alot of points that will help them to remain at top competitive position before the final stage of the competition.

I won't blame Manchester City current underperformance on the departure of some key players from the club but on poor management of their previous success and allowing themselves to get pushed below baseline from the very first stage of the current season which killed their motivations to keep pushing for the top,  I was surprised when Manchester city played a draw game in their last match which was expected to be a walkover for the according to the fans expectations.
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