Again I respect your opinion, but beyond bumping the post which I appreciate your comments in this context are irrelevant to the discussion.

Just trying to let everyone see where we stand at this time. I apologize for not stepping in on this earlier was really not aware this discussion was happening until it was brought to my attention. I have been focused on our other products and I do accept fault for that. I also assure you that Paul will fully support the communities vote on this matter we just want to make sure its the right one.

ahh meme's that's a good one. Not relevant to the conversation, but I value your opinion and will keep that in mind.

Excellent research totally out of context. This is an email from a discussion about GAW and Mintsy working together. It took place around the Inside BTC conference in Vegas. http://insidebitcoins.com/las-vegas . Totally unrelated to the topic. Take note we decided not to make this deal and are very happy with digitalBTC. The fact that we have met another influential person in the space is irrelevant. We have met and emailed most of them.

Cryptsy doesn't have to do any of this, but they are.  They are asking people voice there opinion with the vote.  They could just as easily say FU, we run our business our way.  I don't have any reason to believe that Cryptsy would be engaged with Homero in a scam.  How about voting and letting it play out.  If you don't want to trade there due to this, then go trade somewhere else.  

I have been watching this from the sidelines for a bit. Why did we accept the Prime Controller?

At the time we though getting the PC from the foundation would be a good way to protect the coins from the shenanigans. It is in our interest to ensure coins continue for both us, and our customers. I think Mullick has basically stated most of that so I wont beat a dead horse.

We are considering our options at this point as far as how to proceed, all the while addressing your concerns stated here. If you have an idea, or route you think we should take with the PC lets hear it.

Keep tugging at these loose threads Paul. You are onto something.  I know who I trust more in this debate between you and Mullick.

Mullick,

The paycoin foundation hack. Was it 200,000 XPY was stolen and transferred to Crypsty?
Who made those trades? With that amount of BTC you must know who owned that BTC wallet.

I hear you reversed the trades? Has the thief been arrested yet?

If their end goal was to launder 1.41 XPY ( less than $1 ) then they did a good job of making it look like an average user getting a payout from a service. Likely a GAW service.

Think what you want I dont know why I tried in the first place. You obviously will not listen to reason

Inputs are chosen at random. We cannot control that unless we build raw transactions which is unnessecary for the system we have.

It was not needed to complete that withdrawal. It could have chosen others. But it was likely an ideal input to create the smallest transaction.

They are combined with ALL cryptsy transactions. The block explorer your using doesnt have the ability to tag all cryptsy addresses. These are withdrawals from our hot wallet. Inputs are combined pretty much at random to make the best outputs

The only thing you have proved is those withdrawals came from our hot wallet

Learn how to read a blockchain and come back with a valid argument. Check my edits above

The outputs are being used in whole to complete other transactions. If you look at the transactions you will see they are combined with more inputs. Fees are bing paid.

Im surprised anyone is taking this as evidence of anything. If you know how to read a block explorer this is perfectly normal activity

Our tx fee we charge is based on the mean over the last 1k transactions we have sent. Paycoin allows for fee free transactions. The fee we charge does not mean we pay that to the network for every transaction. But instead is the average that we pay

Maybe. I have suspected that Cryptsy was actively aiding in the laundering of coins for GAW/Homero for a long time. It is hard to conclusively prove though. You can see transactions where coins are siphoned from large groups being shuffled by bots and enter a Cryptsy address, and then leave the Cryptsy address intact in the exact same amount as soon as they confirm and then continue the Paycoin Shuffle , hitting addresses related to the original group and being mixed in with other siphoned off groups. The only logical answer to me is that these shuffle bots Homero has been using have access to directly conduct transactions on Cryptsy addresses. Here is something I was looking at this morning that is fishy as hell. First off, can anyone say with certainty who the famous 4,600,000 XPY address belongs to? I was under the impression that this was the coins "liberated" by the supposed XPY Mutineers, and was the source of coins to fill their PCs. That address is now down to ~2,000,000 coins, but is still #1 on the Rich List:


Here is the interesting part. Let's take a quick look at the latest removal of 250,000 XPY from this address two days ago.



After leaving the #1 address , 50,000 XPY are siphoned off in the very first transaction, with the other 200,000 going to an as yet not synched address.


Now, we follow that 50,000 group forward as they are shuffled through addresses with small amounts being siphoned off each time, EXCEPT for the first shuffle address. This is a main shuffle way station. Check out the activity.


Now, that group of 50,000XPY goes through several address, siphoning off small amounts each time and reaches this address:

Here is what happens in this address:


Where do these In>Out shuffles go? To a Cryptsy holding address? Nope, they join back up with other XPY doing the Paycoin Shuffle and continue mixing as a new 20,000 XPY group. https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/tx.dws?577861.htm



Yes, it was a tiny amount, but that is the point of this. These shuffle bots siphon off tiny amounts and then recombine them over and over and over to try to hide the origin of where they came from. Doesn't work of course, just makes it take a little longer to trace and makes it perfectly clear that this obfuscation is intentional.

Questions:
1. Who owns this #1 on the Rich List address? Whoever it is , they are using the same shuffle bots and related addresses as the ones Homero was using since Dec 12.
2. Why does someone have the ability to deposit to a Cryptsy address and then withdraw straight to another non- Cryptsy address? Using a bot even.  I was told that deposits go to holding addresses, and then withdrawals are taken from there.

Supposedly Jessica is stus daughter but I doubt it, she looks like a muggle

He looks very strangely a lot like Stu Fraser in that picture.  

"you're like the father i've never had"  -  Joshy

Shit look at the features, and how short the nose is from eyes down, eyes far apart.  Maybe i'm just day-drunk, but it looks like his daddy to me.

Looks like Cryptsy will do the right thing with a little help from the community. If they do give back that Prime and delist that scam coin...all is forgiven I would assume.