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1321  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] >> Mandatory Wallet Update (01/06) - X11/PoS/Anon on: June 04, 2014, 07:03:21 PM
By the words of some "experienced" traders, 1300-1700 are long gone and price went downwards. Descending triangles and so on...wrong. If thoose guys can't predict the price, then no one can.

Congrats young grasshopper, you completed the first step in understanding the financial markets.
1322  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] >> Mandatory Wallet Update (01/06) - X11/PoS/Anon on: June 04, 2014, 06:54:29 PM
Guys, I just checked both bittrex and polo trade history.  The bulk of this dump is small sales.  When the price goes down, it is because joe schmoe sold off his half an XC, or ten XC.  I'm checking MP next.

Whats worse to see?  A bunch of Joe Schmoes selling off or 1 whale? 

I would rather see 1 whale sell off.
1323  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] >> Mandatory Wallet Update (01/06) - X11/PoS/Anon on: June 04, 2014, 06:25:22 PM
Our anno momentum was surely killed. Time to leave this niche behind (ofcourse finish and progress the tech.) and start planning other momentums. We should organise a pre-order for debetcard (to be introduced around september), Build a smooth messaging service inside android wallet, other crazy new shit. Clearly the anno tech is WOOW but competion is cathing on and we need to stay 1 step ahead Cheesy

What. Our anon tech is not even finished we are only on the first beta release.

People still have doubts etc. Time will show the power of the tech


I am currently working on the details for the Retail Market/debit card strategy, should have some definitive answers by the end of this week or early next week

Are we still expecting a release today? Short term plans?

yes a minor release today after the contest ends for the bounty...

work continues on

* REV2
* Point of Sale/Debit/Retail - Market Strategy
* Expand use of XC as a "currency"
* XC Foundation


did chaeplin answer the direct link question in the other thread? People talk too much tech words for us illterates to understand. And even if he did, can it be fixed?

No he didn't.  He did the same thing he did yesterday. Propulsion is just being a troll.  He's good at that.
1324  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] >> Mandatory Wallet Update (01/06) - X11/PoS/Anon on: June 04, 2014, 06:09:59 PM
Possible twitterpost "Can you find sender adress for TX and prove the flaw? Collect your bounty (0,2btc and rising) @ http://[Suspicious link removed]/qfrtkm7 RT please!"

I will add 50XC.



I will bump it to 300XC
1325  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] >> Mandatory Wallet Update (01/06) - X11/PoS/Anon on: June 04, 2014, 05:57:20 PM
The point, I spectacularly failed to make was that the last line of support has been hit, and in fact has been broken. MAjor confidence test here for the medium term. No time to be a weak hand if you believe in the coin long term.

Any weak hand is getting out now for sure.  It's getting torched.
1326  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] >> Mandatory Wallet Update (01/06) - X11/PoS/Anon on: June 04, 2014, 05:45:33 PM
price just hit bottom resistance level.

Big test for price here.

You mean support. 
1327  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] >> Mandatory Wallet Update (01/06) - X11/PoS/Anon on: June 04, 2014, 04:53:15 PM
Possible twitterpost "Can you find sender adress for TX and prove the flaw? Collect your bounty (0,2btc and rising) @ http://[Suspicious link removed]/qfrtkm7 RT please!"

I will add 50XC.

1328  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] >> Mandatory Wallet Update (01/06) - X11/PoS/Anon on: June 04, 2014, 04:51:28 PM

Update - I just ran a TX through the mixer

http://cryptexplorer.com/address/XDNHMSD2Feex8bDHz9yiLtadHz4LGABQWE




the only thing I'm looking for now is proof of direct link from the source wallet address to the destination wallet on block chain


Since this is single path at this time (not multi-path) that is the only concern with this release, is there a DIRECT LINK..

thanks,

ATCSECURE



I think binary release is first step to test.

Welcome back!  We've been waiting for you.

Hello, when binary is relaeased, I will return.



I guess you can't solve it.  Cool.  Thanks for coming out.
1329  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] >> Mandatory Wallet Update (01/06) - X11/PoS/Anon on: June 04, 2014, 04:40:42 PM

Update - I just ran a TX through the mixer

http://cryptexplorer.com/address/XDNHMSD2Feex8bDHz9yiLtadHz4LGABQWE




the only thing I'm looking for now is proof of direct link from the source wallet address to the destination wallet on block chain


Since this is single path at this time (not multi-path) that is the only concern with this release, is there a DIRECT LINK..

thanks,

ATCSECURE



I think binary release is first step to test.

Welcome back!  We've been waiting for you.
1330  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] >> Mandatory Wallet Update (01/06) - X11/PoS/Anon on: June 04, 2014, 04:36:25 PM
When did you guys buy in?

I bought in at 0.00156.

Will it plummet lower? Will it rocket? TELL ME YOU EXPERTS I PLEAD YOU.


Nobody knows the answer.
1331  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] >> Mandatory Wallet Update (01/06) - X11/PoS/Anon on: June 04, 2014, 04:27:15 PM


We should set an end time as well, also I won't be commenting until that time - say 1.5 hours from now - around 2pm EST?

I would make it longer than 1.5  hours.  Some people may not know about it yet.
1332  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] >> Mandatory Wallet Update (01/06) - X11/PoS/Anon on: June 04, 2014, 04:18:37 PM

Update - I just ran a TX through the mixer

http://cryptexplorer.com/address/XDNHMSD2Feex8bDHz9yiLtadHz4LGABQWE




the only thing I'm looking for now is proof of direct link from the source wallet address to the destination wallet on block chain


Since this is single path at this time (not multi-path) that is the only concern with this release, is there a DIRECT LINK..

thanks,

ATCSECURE



XQziHrmhnKfth3nAbWoQEo54YnWwHj4YcH ?

Which part didn't you understand?  You need to prove the link.
1333  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] >> Mandatory Wallet Update (01/06) - X11/PoS/Anon on: June 04, 2014, 03:22:25 PM
XC should have a slogan contest and then get an advert on coinmarketcap.com i think...

Advertising would be key.  There are a bunch of crypto coin sites that are a bargain to advertise on.

I think a heavy advertising campaign before we have a tested and working decentralized anon system would be a mistake.  Decentralized anon is the core of XC and until that is working flawlessly, an advertising campaign would be a disaster.
1334  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] >> Mandatory Wallet Update (01/06) - X11/PoS/Anon on: June 04, 2014, 02:49:41 PM
Thanks for updating the first page of this thread.  It's much more helpful now.

Also, I can't wait for the logo contest to be over so that we can get a more professional logo.

Compared to the other coins the XC logo looks a little unprofessional on

http://cryptocoinstats.com/
and
http://coinmarketcap.com/


Speaking of the logo, I know that a vote has been planned, but I'm not convinced the designs submitted are quite where they need to be yet. The best of them are skeuomorphic and don't sufficiently distinguish themselves from the morass of altcoins out there. I know a top notch designer; we could get her (or anyone else) in.

How about it?

How about you show us some of her work?
1335  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] >> Mandatory Wallet Update (01/06) - X11/PoS/Anon on: June 04, 2014, 01:23:41 AM
Could this look any more perfect?



Stop!  This chart can very easily bust right through the line.
1336  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] >> Mandatory Wallet Update (01/06) - X11/PoS/Anon on: June 03, 2014, 10:56:20 PM
I wish you guys would stop posting charts and talking about the price so much.  It creates a terrible image IMO.
1337  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: rpietila Altcoin Observer on: June 03, 2014, 09:13:00 PM
You seem like a smart man, so you would be wise to at least get an explanation directly from the XC developer.  The XC developer's identity is publicly known, unlike 99% of the coins.  AlexGR, although knowledgable, is a big Darkcoin holder and known to troll the XC thread constantly.  the fact is that XC developer, Dan Metcalf, has made quicker progress than any other "anon" coin. XC plans go way beyond just being an anon coin.  Here is the thread. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=630547.20

1. The thread is moderated. Do you think I can just go in and troll it? Think again.

2. I'm not a big DRK holder. I do have some though Tongue

3. The concept of nodes and applications running on nodes is a vote of confidence to the DRK model.

4. Unlike you, I don't see conflict between anon coins. I own many of them because I believe in the anon market. More specifically I expect it to reach 10% of the transparent market. That means if the transparent market has a size of 10bn, the anon market will have a marketshare of 1bn. I am thus positioned in multiple anon coins to profit from this rise. My first milestone was 1% of the transparent market - and that's achieved with a combined marketcap of anoncoins being ~80mn right now, from something like 3 mn two months ago (2mn DRK / 1mn ANC).

5. I do see problem when a certain coin is more hype than actual stuff. XC's model is currently broken (trusted nodes = lost coins) and anonymity is not so anonymous (as chaeplin demonstrated by backtracing the transaction). So "quicker progress" is not what I'd call it.

I'm not going to get into a conversation with you as I already mentioned you are much more knowledgeable than me. 
1) You are a known troll and FUD spreader from the old thread and not many posts are being deleted from the new thread.  It's still semi-trollable. I don't have the knowledge to argue with you, but your motives are sketchy.
2) Maybe you aren't a big DRK holder, but you conveniently have your DRK address at the bottom of every post you make.
3) Nothing to say here
4) I don't have any conflict and I don't know how you come to that conclusion.  I own DRK and Monero.
5) As the dev already mentioned, it's still testing.  You are definitely fudding the results and you know it.

1338  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] >> Mandatory Wallet Update (01/06) - X11/PoS/Anon on: June 03, 2014, 08:56:47 PM
ATCSecure,

Please respond to AlexGR in this thread about alt coins. Post number 326.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=624223.320


Of course the trust system will be scrutinized.. but the technology is based on several concepts, one of which is "Web of Trust" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_of_trust, the bottom line is that the wallet won't send money to untrusted nodes



I'm a little confused.  As a technically challenged crypto holder, are you saying it is possible that coins can be stolen? Just like people, someone you trust today, may be untrustworthy tomorrow. Is it the same for Xnodes?
As I could understand... there will be a system that detects malisious Xnodes and exclude them in the path...
but it is not yet implemented in this Rev1, I tought it will be implemented in Rev2

How does the system know an Xnode is malicious beforehand?  Is there a non-technical explanation of this somewhere?  If not, there should be.

Was wondering this myself.

ATCsecure can u plz explain how it is prevented from a mixer stealing coins during this beta wallet?  

a mixer on its own can't steal coins, but with out the REV2 trust system and multi-path there is a potential risk of loosing coins through a bad node.  I have setup "hardened" servers for testing, PM for details

Is there a good explanation of the REV2 trust system and multi-path?  Right now, with the current Xnode implementation, is there is a potential of losing coins?
1339  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] >> Mandatory Wallet Update (01/06) - X11/PoS/Anon on: June 03, 2014, 08:46:04 PM
ATCSecure,

Please respond to AlexGR in this thread about alt coins. Post number 326.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=624223.320


Of course the trust system will be scrutinized.. but the technology is based on several concepts, one of which is "Web of Trust" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_of_trust, the bottom line is that the wallet won't send money to untrusted nodes



I'm a little confused.  As a technically challenged crypto holder, are you saying it is possible that coins can be stolen? Just like people, someone you trust today, may be untrustworthy tomorrow. Is it the same for Xnodes?
As I could understand... there will be a system that detects malisious Xnodes and exclude them in the path...
but it is not yet implemented in this Rev1, I tought it will be implemented in Rev2

How does the system know an Xnode is malicious beforehand?  Is there a non-technical explanation of this somewhere?  If not, there should be.
1340  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] >> Mandatory Wallet Update (01/06) - X11/PoS/Anon on: June 03, 2014, 08:18:14 PM
ATCSecure,

Please respond to AlexGR in this thread about alt coins. Post number 326.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=624223.320


Of course the trust system will be scrutinized.. but the technology is based on several concepts, one of which is "Web of Trust" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_of_trust, the bottom line is that the wallet won't send money to untrusted nodes



I'm a little confused.  As a technically challenged crypto holder, are you saying it is possible that coins can be stolen? Just like people, someone you trust today, may be untrustworthy tomorrow. Is it the same for Xnodes?

Just want to ask (i'm a bit curious) . How much they pay people to troll ?? = 10 usd /hour , 100 usd/hour ? is it a part time job ?? or full time job Smiley

I'm not a troll you idiot.  I probably have 50x the amount of XC you have.

Idiot ?? Oh thank you  darling i love you too !! you have 50x the amount of btc (or xc = i'm confused) than me ? lol Wink do you want me to answer you from my hammam or from my yacht ? Wink = one answer = va te faire enculer = va fanculo stronzo !! My my respect aghioul ! Nazderovia

Lol, congrats. You can tell me off in many languages, but you still haven't answered my question about the nodes.  Sure, I wouldn't mind you telling me how much XC you have from your...yacht.  Go ahead.
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