LOL I'm relaxed ty.

Shame bear sterns didn't pay their "dues" or they'd still be around today too eh? It's clearly not capitalism...so it must be something else right?

Congress is charged with creating the nation's currency...yes? Who has the authority to charge them with that incredible power? Is it...We the People perhaps? If so, how can *I* grant Congress the power to divest the authority to coin the nation's currency into the hands of unknown opaque private banking institutions? Further, how can *I* grant Congress the power to grant bankers the power to whip up currency from thin air, if *I* don't have that power to grant?

Have you EVER seen a definition of the word "dollar"? Can you define the word? Can you tell me why it keeps changing over time?


Does that mean that you concur? ...or you simply don't care? If you don't care that's fine, but your unfunny memes are not a position and don't encourage me to take you seriously. It's a rather significant point, so if you'd prefer to be taken seriously then don't just ignore important topics, like this one and my comments about Bretton Woods.

I can appreciate that you're a thoroughly indoctrinated true believer...willing to fight for the dysfunctional status quo, but that doesn't make these salient points just disappear.

Never gave up my guns, nor do I ever intend to. We can all do our part to collapse this sham of a system, just withdraw from it economically. Stop using banks & stop using credit dollars. Store your wealth in non-dollar denominated assets and conduct your affairs in cryptos wherever possible and physical dollars where necessary. Credit is the achilles heel of this particular beast. Starve it and it will die.

Loaning "money" you do not have is counterfeiting. If I do the same it is not called "loaning" it's called "fraud".


The problem with this argument is that the fed is not part of government, it's privately owned and it is the fed that sets interest rates. If it were free market economics determining that 0% interest rates were appropriate and that saving should be a losing proposition that'd be one thing, but that's not the case.

No...it is not.

Goldman sachs is a privately owned company...yes or no? Why are US taxpayers on the hook for their failed gambling ventures? Banksters needn't "run away" with your funds to rob you, they'll have their army of politicians relieve you of your savings in due course. Who do you think is putting these guys in office?

Do you prefer the term "crony capitalist"? How about "national socialist"?

Sure...off blockchain counterfeiting(FRB) is certainly possible.


Because there's no capitalism without capital and there's no capital without savings(capital formation). The current system will end whether you love it or hate it. It's doomed to failure because debt greater than previous debt is unsustainable. It will eventually collapse on itself. Savers are being brutally punished under the current system, and while FRB is only part of the problem, not the whole problem, it's the subject of this particular thread.

You're welcome.

People have been asking scamfast WTF for months. <silence> <bs apologies> <more silence> THEY DO NOT CARE. They just merrily resell gear they've already sold once while ignoring the people that funded the entire venture.

Suddenly they're communicating...wonder what changed.


The poor decision was getting involved with scamfast months ago. Litigation is the only legal recourse these people have at this point. You make it sound like scamfast JUST taped out and was due to deliver in April of 2014. These people have already lost the bulk of their investment...myself included. Cookies for you if you requested and received one of your two refunds, but others have received nothing and they're understandably raw about it.

BTW, "alot" is not a word. If you're going to insult people for whom English is a second language then you must know this.

Well, you could start by addressing the portion of that post that you keep *NOT* quoting.

Also, by all means drop the silly comparisons to a few frauds committed by scammers in bitcoin securities. There's no force of government behind those fraudulent enterprises. People voluntarily and unwisely trusted someone not trustworthy with their coins...end of story. It sucks, but it doesn't come close to comparing to the frauds committed by banksters and their government stooges.

If you seriously don't know what the word "Fascist" means then brush up on it and come back so we can discuss it intelligently.

armyofignorance seriously needs to go back to shill skool. Fourteen posts all on this one thread and all contrary to popular perspective. He/she shows up and immediately begins attacking the most ardent scamfast critics. This is one impatient troll.

Why bother. Meme's, petty insults, and generalities is all lambchop has. He won't engage on specific issues because he doesn't know anything about the topic.

We can all do our part to keep the thread clear of trolls by not engaging them.

How do you "outthink" scamfast into delivering products or refunds? They have the money, they have the gear, they have the information. This is a product that rapidly deteriorates in value. The sh1tbags pushed people to the point where they have nothing left to lose by litigating and unsurprisingly people litigated.

In other news, the sun rose this morning.

They were doing that anyway. They've been selling the same gear twice for some time. Months late on shipping products to their original victims and they're sending stupid scam offers to "upgrade" their victims to the back of the line on their latest vaporware(bring your own PSU please). The involuntary bankruptcy petition isn't the cause of the fraudulent behavior, scamfast's crooked sh1tbag management is.

The Constitution and the Bill of Rights are crystal clear on every major point, but since they're intended to limit centralized authority, and that is seen as unfavorable by federalists, the issues are mucked up until they appear wishy washy.

For example:


This could hardly be more clear, yet we now have "no free speech zones" that the Secret Service can declare on a whim. In Nevada(and elsewhere) "free speech zones" were established for people to protest. This is clearly unconstitutional as the 4th branch of government has no authority to create law. That is the function of Congress and they cannot create a law that infringes freedom of speech.


...again, this is not ambiguous. It's not until you get a whole bunch of scumbag lawyers in a room redefining words like "people" and "Arms" that things get...flexible.
 

The market will be better off when cryptsy goes extinct. Sick to death of their painfully slow interface, hopeless dysfunction, and dumb canned responses to every single support inquiry.

When people are looted it's not the fault of the currency involved. Blaming bitcoin for human nature is silly.

The federal government lacks the authority to outlaw a substance...they do it anyway. The states have the Constitutional authority to outlaw a substance. Most recently we've seen the opposite, with states "legalizing" substances(MJ) and the federal government refusing to recognize the authority of the states to do so. The feds are mistaken.


The Constitution is very specific with regard to the powers of the federal government and specifically states precisely which powers it can wield. All other powers are vested in the states. The federal government of the US was designed to be weak and subservient, but a corrupt monetary system has reversed this and allowed the federal government to expand well beyond Constitutional guidelines. To achieve this terms like "living Constitution" are employed and clauses like general welfare and interstate commerce must be bent out of shape utilizing twisted logic. IOW lawyers have to play word games.

Umm...ok.

I believe you are correct, at least as far as the federal government of the US is concerned. I've never seen anything in the Constitution that would lead me to conclude that DC has the authority to make any particular substance illegal. They get away with it because nobody stops them.

This is a premium company.

Scamfast consistently fuks their own customers(creditors), so their customers(creditors) attempt to wrest control of the company away from crooked management. In response scamfast crooked management retaliates with more screw jobs.

lolwut? that's a negative good buddy.