in 2016, it sorta was priced in. the market dumped pretty hard right around the halving, then kept dumping for a month afterwards. something like a 40% drop all told.
my take is the halving as an event can be priced in, just like that. but the long term supply effects that will be felt over the coming years---that can't be effectively priced in this early. in that way, a lot of us are talking about two different things.
You articulated it better than me. That's what I was clawing towards. I assume these people are talking long term rather than short term but perhaps they didn't make it very clear. I don't expect anything other than a pump and dump in the next few months myself. If there isn't then it'll be a pleasant surprise.
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But recently some huge amount of bitcoin was transferred from Kim jong un Trezor wallet to coinbase about 6000Btc around hald a billion dollar. Nobody heard about that lately?
Sure did. It's certainly a turnaround for the books compared to Coinbase's normal policies but I guess they decided to kick back a little and make themselves some real money. Hey, why not?
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How probably is for the Bitcoin to do the opposite of what the public expects, and don't crash with the stocks, when they do crash?
We're in a phase where the world is looking for confidence, and there isn't a lot to be found. I see no reason why BTC would be any more confident in the face of a global shit than stocks. This isn't one economy wrecking itself, it's everyone everywhere. That means pensions faltering, jobs going, taxes rising. I've little doubt they will try absolutely everything to keep the illusion of solid markets going but it's hard to tell whether we're past the worst or it has only just begun.
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I don’t know about you’ll but this whales advice kinda feels strange, as I have only been reading that bitcoin prices will rise post the halving event, but yet he claims that bitcoin prices will fall post the halving event. According to him the effects of halving is already factored in bitcoin prices, and that’s why post the halving event bitcoin prices will tank. What do you’ll think of this is he correct, or is this some kind of mind games that he’s playing with us?.
I don't ever believe the 'priced in' crew. They said the exact same thing about previous ones along with oldies but goldies like 'mining death spiral'. But this is a bit of excitement that peters out once the actual event is over. You have to wait quite some time for the true effects to be digested and start to influence things. If we are to get any proper action from it I'm not expecting any until well into next year.
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Tech talent, or investors with a lot of money to bet on risky businesses? Their business doesn't scream 'cutting edge rocket science' from a tech perspective*, they could have probably saved a lot of money by having most of their team working remotely from cheaper place(s).
*maybe they managed to develop some ingenious anti-fraud system few could come up with, I don't know, I'm skeptical
Largely about maintaining an image I'll guess. All of these crypto companies secretly dream of being stumbled across by a Peter Thiel and being scooped up and they think SF is the place to be for it to happen. There's so much noise there you'd likely be better off in Idaho where a potato billionaire gets a boner for that thar tech stuff.
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Bitcoin has no liquidity problems. Even if 95% is fake, 1 billion usd volume is pretty high.
Do you need to sell more than 1billion usd in bitcoin per day? Ffs Saying that bitcoin cant be a safe haven because it lacks liquidity is just false.
Of course it does. That's billions of dollars of churn with coins and dollars that rarely leave exchanges. If someone turns up with an urgent need to get rid of several thousand coins at once we'll sure as shit feel it reverberate through the market. If there was a proper panic and everyone ran for the door you might be able to realise a respectable price for 1-5% of the entire supply before the price was flattened completely. The reason for all the violent moves we get is the lack of liquidity.
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To believe in the value of Bitcoin you need to understand the true nature of money, and how many people do you know who could give a comprehensive rundown of that?
Education, or lack thereof, is the prime factor in my opinion. Everything else is beating around the bush in comparison.
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With limitations there to operate any type of computer but they are able to hack into the exchange, is this a citizen of North Korea or from China? a little polemic where in the news with this article how to influence the price of bitcoin with the death of Kim Jong Un. https://u.today/heres-how-kim-jong-uns-presumed-death-can-impact-bitcoin-btc-priceMany people suggest buying bitcoin, what is this? or indeed this is the news for the halving so that more requests or indeed influenced by Kim Jong. North Korea will know alongside everyone else that a large part of the future conflicts and power games will take place online. No way are they not going to have trained hackers to let rip. They'll be part of the military. As for that 'article', that's got to be the most piss weak effort I've read all year, and they cite Zerohedge to boot.
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Will purse.io transform into a scam political attack tool under Roger Ver's ownership or he should be cheered because he saved it?
I reckon this question might be on some bitcoiners' heads with no answer hehehe.
It can be that and still be useful to people. That's probably what he would be counting on. He probably has a giant chart in his bedsit with 'use' and 'propaganda' written on it and he adjusts the ratio depending on how he feels that day. I didn't realise how extensive the Amazon referrals thing would be. We're going to see lots of services change because of it.
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Fabio will always be 'my' pope.
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If there was such a thing millions of people would be all over it in seconds. Nothing is that simple. Profit of that level does not arrive without a massive level of risk. Apply it to conventional finance. In most places you're lucky to get 1% a year risk free these days.
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The only area worth paying attention to is government hacking. I'm sure they would take grrreat pleasure cleaning out American companies. So far it seems to South Koreans and the Japanese who are the stupidest and leave themselves wide open.
I would love to know how they manage to launder the funds they spirit away.
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I think that no one can imagine this world in 120 years so let others (our kids) think about what will happen when the last Bitcoin is mined Well within our own lifetimes years we'll become conscious of whether transaction fees will be enough to keep enough miners on board. Maybe the block reward reduction is so lengthy because Satoshi foresaw it would need to be a process that took a long time to transition. The alternative is that a 0.19 BTC block reward is a few million dollars in 20 years which works fine for me.
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I did a search for his twitter account ---> https://twitter.com/RaoulGMI, and I did not find any report on such a prediction. Can anyone confirm that he said this analysis or are they just passing discussions? It can be found here. You can read it for free if you hand over an email address - https://www.realvision.com/gmiNormally they charge for the stuff they publish I think. If you're a chart fan it'll make you cream your knickers.
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But even if this happens to be sold ?i think there will not be a Huge impact in the market considering that we have 33 billion volume in 24 hours and has 138 billion in capitalization,maybe there will some shaking but that's all nothing more than that and will recover sooner.
Almost all of that volume is churn from coins inside exchanges that rarely leave. It's traders batting them between each other. It doesn't take a particularly large outside injection of fresh coins deposited solely to sell to really screw with the market. There's been plenty of talk of the plustoken ponzi being the cause of heavy falls and that's a similar number to some of these wallets and they're stepping the sells over a long time.
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The average North Korean has zero hope of ever getting anywhere near the normal internet other than on smuggled Chinese phones. They won't have any money to buy any even if they managed that. Even the most privileged North Koreans only get government intranet access.
Crypto is likely to be solely the preserve of government hackers and the extreme elite.
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One downside to my current status that I have noted is the lack of freezer space. A good deep freezer doesn't use much power and should be able to run on the solar/battery arrays. I'll keep that in mind and get one later when things are more normal, live and learn.
I got one mid March. On checking the price the exact same one is 2.5 times more now. It's supposed to cost 10c a week to run and makes a wonderful centralised location to be murdered for one's food supply.
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I wouldn't risk getting my info out for $20-$30 of bitcoin, ever. If you really want to buy bitcoin, the best thing that you can do is to post a listing here on this forum and hope someone will take up on the offer. But even that would be somewhat of a stretch considering that there are a few Iranians here that do business in the forum. It's also hard to use debit/credit cards to receive and to send money from your country given that you could get a lot of trouble once you are caught.
If OP can get US and UK Amazon cards and from other companies to sell here then they should do fine. There's always steady demand for stuff like that. I'd even consider having one myself as long as he can guarantee I won't get a Hellfire up my arse.
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Thanks for all the information. I really appreciate your fast answer.
I got one more question: If I e.g. buy a gift card for H&M, IKEA or one of the several grocery stores available, will I be only able to use the gift card online? Or can I just go to the next H&M or IKEA in my town, get my items and show the gift card at the cashier?
Thanks in advance!
Each card has different conditions that they'll state on the page for the individual card. Some will be online only, some will be in store only, most will be both. This is H&M's entry for instance. It's worth noting that Bitrefill charge a small premium unless you're paying with the lightning network. It's usually about 2-3%. Giftoff should be cheaper if they have a card you want - https://giftoff.com/gift-cards?filters%5Bsort%5D=alpha&filters%5Bcategory%5D=any&filters%5Bcountry%5D=241&page=1
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Funny how none of the BSV channels are being removed....
It could be related to the lawsuit Ripple have launched against Youtube for hosting videos using their name and the likeness of their chief penis to do giveaway cons. Since 'Ripple' and 'scam' fit together rather nicely in the mouth from whatever angle you take perhaps they have a bot that's gone mad.
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