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1441  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Zašto je Bitcoin (i) novac i koje su mu prednosti pred fiatom on: April 16, 2019, 06:51:40 AM
Pošto su ti obje "notorne činjenice" pogrešne, a uporno odbijaš priznati da su pogrešne,
onda naravno da rasprava nema smisla

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect
1442  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russia is the most aggressive country on: April 15, 2019, 03:44:13 PM

Russia did not let go, Azerbaijan as well as Russia was part of the USSR. However, the USSR collapsed and Russia together with Azerbaijan and more with many other republics became independent states.


Mindblowing logic, lol
1443  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russia is the most aggressive country on: April 15, 2019, 01:12:04 PM
I, as a resident of Russia, find it funny to read such statements about Russia.
Firstly, what happened during the USSR could not be applied to contemporary Russia.
It is like hating today's Germans because of what Hitler did.
Secondly read the meaning of the word reparation.
And finally unlike the USA, Russia does not interfere in the internal politics of other countries.

Yes, Russia does not interfere in the policies of other countries, it captures them.

Russia let Azerbaijan go, USA still didn't give back California, Texas and whatever else it took from Mexico
1444  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Zašto je Bitcoin (i) novac i koje su mu prednosti pred fiatom on: April 15, 2019, 01:06:28 PM

S druge strane zajmoprimac koji je s bankom "izrudari" kune, i zamijeni ih nekoj trgovini za robu, mora iste kune povući iz opticaja plaćanjem rata kredita što će ostvariti tako da proizvede i nekome preda drugu vrstu robe. Ergo, sudjelovat će u razmjeni roba.

Zato kuna je, a bitcoin nije sredstvo razmjene roba, tj. novac.

Ne, ja kad zamijenim kune za PC u UZI-ju ne moram nikakve kune povlačiti iz opticaja , ne moram plaćati kredit i ne moram proizvesti ništa
ni predati nikome nikakvu drugu robu...potpuno si promašio poantu

Ali za razliku od fiat novca, ne mogu tek tako poput našeg guvernera narodne banke, natiskati BTC-a koliko želim,
nego moram uložiti nekakve resurse da do BTC-a dođem, i zato BTC jest pravo sredstvo zamjene, a fiat
je proizvoljno sredstvo manipulacije u rukama monopolista koji ga tiskaju


Zato recimo kod BTC-a nije moguća  situacija kakvu je proizveo Milošević prije 30-ak godina kad je upao u platni sustav
 bivše države i tiskao dinara koliko je htio
1445  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Zašto je Bitcoin (i) novac i koje su mu prednosti pred fiatom on: April 15, 2019, 12:53:33 PM
Ja sam svoj zadnji PC platio bitcoinom u UZI shopu, znači BTC je novac, tj sredstvo razmjene
Trgovina nije dobila drugu vrstu robe, znači ti s trgovinom nisi bio u razmjeni, niti je bitcoin posredovao u razmjeni tvoje robe ili robe u vlasništvu trgovine. Razmjena znači da onaj koji je pustio sredstvo razmjene u opticaj i tako dobio tuđu robu, preda neku drugu vrstu robe imatelju tog sredstva. To je onda posredovanje pri razmjeni roba korištenjem sredstva razmjene. Ovo tvoje nije jer onaj koji je izdao bitcoine nikad trgovini neće predati neku svoju robu kako bi dovršio razmjenu. Objasnio sam to detaljno na primjeru hipotetičke ekonomije u članku.  

Niko nije "izdao" bitcoine, ja sam ih izrudario i kupio s njima PC. Sad je UZI imatelj mog BTC-a i može nešto drugo kupiti za njega

Štoviše, kad sam ih pitao što žele, BTC ili novac koji sam imao pri ruci (Zambijske kwache) samo su me blijedo pogledali i rekli

"daj BTC"
1446  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Zašto je Bitcoin (i) novac i koje su mu prednosti pred fiatom on: April 15, 2019, 12:11:24 PM
Ja sam svoj zadnji PC platio bitcoinom u UZI shopu, znači BTC je novac, tj sredstvo razmjene
1447  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Zašto je Bitcoin (i) novac i koje su mu prednosti pred fiatom on: April 15, 2019, 11:39:38 AM
Bitcoin nije novac jer novac mora ostvariti razmjenu roba između tržišnih sudionika, a bitcoin to ne može.  Neki dan sam napisao članak kako bi upravo to dokazao:

Prva i osnovna funkcija novca je njegova uloga sredstva razmjene roba, dok ostale funkcije proizlaze iz te osnovne. Sve vrste nerobnog novaca, poput fiat valuta, omogućuju ostvarenje te osnovne funkcije. Bitcoin s druge strane ne omogućuje, zbog čega on nije sredstvo razmjene tj. on nije novac. Ta digitalna inovacija počela se javno predstavljati pod maskom novca kako bi se sakrilo ono što ona zapravo jest, a to je klasična investicijska prevara. U ovom članku razotkrit ćemo tu prevaru, i to na prilično jednostavan način koji će biti razumljiv i prosječnom laiku. Naime, kreirat ćemo jednu malu hipotetičku ekonomiju koja proizvodi samo dvije vrste roba. Ta ekonomija demonstrirat će suštinu koncepta tržišne razmjene i time razotkriti pravo lice bitcoina.

Ostatak možete pročitati ovdje: https://btcprevara.wordpress.com/

Dobro, ja tebe stvarno ne shvaćam... Nitko se više ne želi "igrati" s tobom u "tvojem pješčaniku" (mislim na tvoj topic - namjerno ga neću linkati da se ne bi još netko upustio s tobom u raspravu) pa si došao ovdje voditi Sveti rat protiv Bitcoina? Netko ti je dobro napisao - u vremenu kad su ljudi "izmislili" novac sigurno je bilo ljudi poput tebe koji su govorili kako je to prijevara. Samo što onda nije bilo Interneta i foruma da takvi pojedinci izraze svoje mišljenje.

Odustani čovječe! Mi smo očito zatucane seljačine koje mogu shvatiti da nas Satoshi Nakamoto želi prevariti i maznuti nam novac Roll Eyes

Baš tako, samo tupi po svome, a nije opovrgnuo nijedan moj navod
1448  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russia is the most aggressive country on: April 15, 2019, 06:58:11 AM

not just the west, crypto will put wast regions of the world into defining themselves as communists. to protect their power

Communism is stateless society...so either whole world is communist, or noone is
Communism as dictatorship is just western propaganda (pretty successful, I must add)
1449  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russia is the most aggressive country on: April 14, 2019, 07:18:06 PM

Products manufactured in the socialist countries of Eastern Europe were technologically backward and therefore no one needed. In this connection factories were closed, and workers were forced to seek work in more developed countries. The reason is objective, it is impossible to produce, if it is not sold, it is the law of the economy. The economic backwardness of the countries of Eastern Europe is the power pressure of Russia with its principles of socialism. The economic recovery of these countries is gradually taking place and an example of this is Poland and the Czech Republic.
A good example is demonstrated by Azerbaijan, which, having become independent from Russia from a poor and backward country, has turned into a country with successful economic development.

Azerbaijan, land of Muslim terrorism?

https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/azerbaijan/terrorism

There were no terrorists in Azerbaijan when Russians kept peace and order there

In all Muslim countries of the former colonies of Russia there is no terrorism. It is the Russians who came up with the myth of terrorism, so that under this pretext they could bring in an army, supposedly to defend them against terrorism and retake them.
As for Azerbaijan, this country, having freed itself from Russia, is successfully developing and there is no Muslim terrorism there.

Lol, I linked UK government page and you blame Russia for that...how cute
If your government want you to spread propaganda here, tell them to find someone smart
1450  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ETERBASE: Europe's Premier Digital Asset Exchange on: April 14, 2019, 07:15:46 PM
Any idea why we can't see the market cap and circulating supply of XBASE in coinmarketcap?

CMC is often notoriously slow about confirming circulating supply (I noticed that with at least half coins
I followed after been listed there). market cap is direct function of price and circulating supply, so when
we get circulating supply, we'll get market cap too
1451  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Zašto je Bitcoin (i) novac i koje su mu prednosti pred fiatom on: April 14, 2019, 07:12:01 PM
Totalni sam newbie u crypto trading svijetu, ali ne i u trgovanju fiat valutama. Tako da će moje pitanje možda biti najgluplje dosada što ste čuli lol. Ali kako newbie moram postavljati glupa pitanja kako bih razumio igru. Pa me zanima ako mi netko može reći, ako se npr učlanim na Biance exchanger kako funkcionira način trgovanja? Da budem precizniji ako npr. imam Tether crypto mogu li njega koristiti kako bih kupio druge valute na tom
exchangeru ili se druge valute kupuju isključivo s BTC?

Ako sam bio nejasan da još malo pojasnim. Amo reći da sam se registrirao na Biance i prebacio svoj BTC tamo. I sada sam s BTC kupio Tether. Mogu li ja sada kupovati druge valute isključivo s Tether ili moram svaki put prebaciti Tether u BTC i onda trade-ati?


Nije Biance nego Binance

Ovdje imaš listi svih parova

https://coinmarketcap.com/exchanges/binance/

kao što vidiš ima ih jako puno, među ostalim i prema tetheru (a i nekim drugim stablecoinima)
1452  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russia is the most aggressive country on: April 14, 2019, 10:15:30 AM

Products manufactured in the socialist countries of Eastern Europe were technologically backward and therefore no one needed. In this connection factories were closed, and workers were forced to seek work in more developed countries. The reason is objective, it is impossible to produce, if it is not sold, it is the law of the economy. The economic backwardness of the countries of Eastern Europe is the power pressure of Russia with its principles of socialism. The economic recovery of these countries is gradually taking place and an example of this is Poland and the Czech Republic.
A good example is demonstrated by Azerbaijan, which, having become independent from Russia from a poor and backward country, has turned into a country with successful economic development.

Azerbaijan, land of Muslim terrorism?

https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/azerbaijan/terrorism

There were no terrorists in Azerbaijan when Russians kept peace and order there
1453  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Sia - Decentralized Storage on: April 12, 2019, 07:20:21 PM
just sold my OCN and put all to buy more siacoin Tongue


Bad move, so far

It seems we'll have to wait to see those 800 sats prices again  Grin

OCN: buy 59sat sell: 87sat.... SC buy:67sat .... what's better ? hodl OCN was the right choice you think (at the moment OCN is down at 66sat) ?

I didn't argue what you sold, I argued what you bought
1454  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Sia - Decentralized Storage on: April 12, 2019, 09:43:02 AM
just sold my OCN and put all to buy more siacoin Tongue


Bad move, so far

It seems we'll have to wait to see those 800 sats prices again  Grin
1455  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Zašto je Bitcoin (i) novac i koje su mu prednosti pred fiatom on: April 11, 2019, 12:45:44 PM
da, ne trebamo se previše zamarati šta će biti kiod zadnjeg izrudarenog bloka jer jbg, nas biti neće, takva je priroda

ali zanimljivo pitanja sam si više puta postavio

maksimalno Bitcoin-a će biti 21.000.000 BTC
Siguran sam da će na svijetu biti više od 21 M osoba koja će željeti biti vlasnik barem jednog cijelog Bitcoin-a, što bi moglo dovesti do astronomskih cijena BTC

Ako kripto zaživi na način kako se svi mi ovdje nadamo (da postane mainstream), onda će cijena Bitcoin-a definitivno postati astronomska jer će on stvarno postati "digitalno zlato". Upravo zbog toga se ja ne zamaram s daytrading-om jer ionako ništa na prodajem za fiat, a smatram da će ono što sad imam jednog dana vrijediti stvarno puno.

Ja sam malo stariji pa se nadam da će taj "jedan dan" biti otprilike kad je McAfee predvidio  Grin

ne da mi se puno dulje čekati, što reći
1456  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XRP] Ripple Speculation on: April 11, 2019, 06:26:46 AM

I agree with that analysis, XRP is one of the few remaining coins that hasn't still pumped, so it probably has the most chances of getting pumped.
The whole crypto is now showing green sign and could be possible XRP reach the $0.4 but not sure.
Depends on market and anytime big whales can dump the prices but crypto market following uptrend and just wait for pump.  Roll Eyes

Funny, XRP is not even able to remain the same with BTC pair. Other majors such as ETH and LTC are at least doing good against BTC pumps, but XRP isn't.


It was always like that, but once XRP starts going up it doesn't care about XRP/BTC pairing either...of course, maybe this time it'll be different
1457  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Galactrum [ORE] :: Stakenodes :: PoS :: Voting :: Masternodes :: on: April 10, 2019, 08:14:20 PM
I still have some holdings of this but dont know what needs to be done with this as all of the mn coins are inactive and dead with no future prospects given , lets see what will happen next.


Wow, didn't check this one since beginning, price REALLY tanked
1458  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Zašto je Bitcoin (i) novac i koje su mu prednosti pred fiatom on: April 10, 2019, 08:10:41 PM
Ono što sam se ja pitao je. Što kada se zadnji BTC izrudari? Kako će onda transakcije funkcionirati jer zašto bi rudari dalje radili? Kakvu će onda vrijednost BTC imati?

Ima li tko kakvu misao na ova pitanja?

To će biti oko 2140-te...mislim da će do tad se desiti toliko toga da je pitanje u stvari nebitno Smiley
1459  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ETERBASE: Europe's Premier Digital Asset Exchange on: April 10, 2019, 04:42:10 PM
Congratulations to etrbade team because they are listed at coinmarketcap and hit more than 5 crypto exchange it is really good to see the price there, it is already 5x gained within few days and I hope it will cross 1usd soon.

Yes, Etherbase has a great start and already on few exchanges. The biggest milestone of Etherbase will be their own exchange. Current Rank of Etherbase in CMC is 1869. I think the first target should be to climb to top 1000 Coins in CMC.

They're 1869 because thats absolutely last possible position...I'll let you decipher why
1460  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Zbirni topic za davanje merita za kvalitetne postove on: April 10, 2019, 12:03:49 PM
svi "bumperi" dok god imam sMerite, bit će nagrađeni

Nisam siguran da li je to dobro, jer bi moglo ispast neka vrsta "trgovine" meritima...nemoj
da se na kraju i tebi desi kao regulusu

 Cry
prihvatiti ću sugestiju
ovaj forum je svakim danom sve manje decentraliziran

E, upravo ovo me počelo živcirati. Da me mora biti strah što i kad ću napraviti na forumu... Pa to nema smisla! Istina, pravila se moraju poštivati. Ali nije isto ako netko konstantno spama forum ili ako je netko nekad davno napravio nešto protivno pravilima. Kazna mora odgovarati postupku kojega netko napravi. Ako će svima dati permaban, to je kao da na istu kaznu osude čovjeka koji je prešao cestu mimo zebre i čovjeka koji je opljačkao banku. Suludo!


To je i meni najbezveznije u čitavoj priči...da je copy/paste napravio od članka od 5 stranica i za takav plagijat zaradio 100 merita, onda ajde.
Ali ovdje je kažnjen ne za plagijat nego za lijenost, a stotine ovih koji spamaju generičke "good project, great team, yaddayadda" životare
uporno na forumu iako spamaju desetine takvih postova, ali jebiga potrude se promijeniti 2 riječi u svakom postu, pa nije "plagijat" nego samo spam
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