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1461  Economy / Speculation / Re: How do play this momentum? on: December 21, 2018, 06:00:10 PM
Is this another bull trap? Or first sing of bull market beginnings?

My strategy is the following:

Bet on trends, holding and selling tops (try at least), re-buying at few % drops, wait till next station.

Once made some profits, bet on other coins which did not start the uptrend, or are at the beginning of the up-trend.

Attention with people selling ALTs for $BTC !! Don't forget the Stop-loss!

Good luck all!



That's going to be a little agressive for me though. Determining if it's a good time to buy or sell will be quite a challenge and getting too carried away may prove to be costly. I probably will pass making any major move.
1462  Economy / Speculation / Re: anybody buying some Bitcoin lately? on: December 21, 2018, 05:51:46 PM
It's at $3,500.  How low can it go? 

I bought more at $3600 and $3400

What's your sweet spot?

Are you waiting for under $1000???

What are you all waiting for? Roll Eyes

If you buy for $ 3600, it's better to save it, just wait for the price to go up, there's no need to keep complaining with prices, everyone here doesn't know when the bitcoin price will go up, and nobody knows when the bitcoin price will rise. higher. will go down again.
Personally, if the price goes down, I still buy it as much as my money, after that I save, I am waiting for the price of bitcoin to really go up. Because I can only see, I don't know who I will complain about, because everyone doesn't know.
I will not see bitcoin for long term, because it will only make me buy bitcoin at a high price, I bought bitcoin a few days ago when the price was still aroung $3200, and luckily the price rose to $4k, but of course the price may go down again, because fluctuations make that possible, the important thing is to take the best chance, keep caution mate..

As you said, it's fluctuating. Even if this indeed is the start of a legitimate bull run, there will still be some dips in between. And it's still quite cheap at 4k if you ask me.
1463  Economy / Speculation / Re: This Huge Price Increase on: December 21, 2018, 05:49:49 PM
Now people are going to be angry that they didn't buy at 3k levels.  I keep telling people it is nearly impossible to time this market and you should always cost average.  A lot of speculators were too greedy and were waiting for 1k or 2k bitcoin to be hit again but it looks like that will never happen.  I think the upcoming year will have tremendous growth back towards the all time high.

The only "people" who will be angry because "they" were waiting for "$1000 or $2000" that did not come are the whalecummulators. I believe that this is a pleb's rally, it will be crashed by "them" again within two weeks. Cool

Possible since they have the ability to do that and they would already be in profit just from this current run. If what you say comes true, then we still have time to enjoy the profits we're making from buying last week 😃
1464  Economy / Speculation / Re: Why is BTC dead on: December 21, 2018, 05:47:40 PM
I don't imagine btc is dead, but it will continue to grow to provide evidence that bitcoin is indeed worthy of being a tool for transactions and investments. There is still value and a strong community to make it more developed.

It's dead for those people that can't seem to make money out of it lol. For shorters who have been losing money. Of course they'll think about it that way. And bitcoin has died several times already. It's just too resilient to stay dead 🤣
1465  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin will die at 2027 on: December 21, 2018, 05:45:58 PM
Many speculators has come out saying the same thing over and over again and that is why we are having a very bad days in cryptocurrency as new investors will had this an the next thing that will happen is selling out of panic.  I think we should stop post of bitcoin die of a thing as it is becoming odd and is not helping the market.
predictions are necessary, but, when you think bitcoin will die within a few years, other thoughts will arise. well, but I think, every year, the bitcoin system will be updated to be better.

Lol. I think you should just accept the fact that these fud spreaders will be here to stay especially if the market isn't doing good. I mean, it's possible yes, but btc have the capacity to rise because the support for this crypto is well established already.
1466  Economy / Speculation / Re: no 1 reason why the bulls are starting real soon!!! on: December 21, 2018, 05:43:23 PM
All what we need is bull run, and the bull run have started already. If the crash in stock market will bring bull run in cryptocurrency markert, we will still be happy to have black Friday this christmas.

in times of economic downturn people look to store there wealth in gold and silver, i would love to think what would happen if people started using Bitcoin for this instead. I dont think we are there yet but the day will come...
I agree with you, more or less the global economic conditions will have an impact on the crypto market. Because maybe, some people have the view that crypto in the long run still has good potential as an asset for investment

Gold and other physical assets would still be the top logical option if ever these conditions occur. What happens in the stock market can very well happen in crypto and even worse. That's why investors would be a little wary and that's why i'm not counting on any massive bull runs anytime soon.
1467  Economy / Speculation / Re: BTC To 1$ on: December 21, 2018, 05:40:46 PM
It might not logic for some people especially if that person only spread about the bad news about bitcoin. But if that person believes in bitcoin, then I don't think that he will think that it's logic or not. Yes, the price is up too high and reach $20k in the last year, and although right now the price is on $3k, I am sure that the price can be back to the high price again in the future. Maybe it will need longer than we think, but if bitcoin really good enough to show the power and can help people to earn money, then the price will go higher. It's only a matter of time before we can see that it's happening and we need to be patient. So no matter what will happen in the next year, we need to be ready and take a decision if necessary.

Well the crypto community has grown considerably bigger over the last 3 years so i can say i'm pretty confident a drop that low is unlikley. Hodlers can become pretty stubborn especially when they get used to the bear market.
1468  Economy / Speculation / Re: bitcoin down trend to 3000 on: December 21, 2018, 05:38:55 PM
bitcoin will never be able to fall as cheaply and as badly as that, the price of bitcoin will definitely stabilize at a price of $ 5000 because I see buying orders and proponents of a lot of prices opening orders at $ 5k which makes bitcoin difficult to fall deeper.
yes, a good thing when the price will go up at $ 5k. but, to date, the price of bitcoin is still up to $ 4k and has not been sold. I hope, for the starting point, the price of bitcoin can reach the price of $ 4500 by the end of this year, or more.

Lol. Too many predictions like that this year. The price won't go below 10k then 8k then 5k and here were are hovering around 4k after a positive run lol. I just hope this run can be sustained though.
1469  Economy / Speculation / Re: Where Bitcoin will skyrocket this time? on: December 21, 2018, 05:36:42 PM
What do you think where Bitcoin will skyrocket this time?

we are in the $4000 and last year we were able to reach the $20,000, which was very incredible and was a very profitable year, but this year the price dropped from $20,000 to $4000 so what I can say is that with the fall $20,000 to $4000 should have scared a lot of people and these people will not be back so soon for the crypto world, we have some great players like BAKKT and others who can create a price increase, but being honest I doubt if we see the price again of $20,000 next year, then it is likely that we will only see $ 20,000 in two years from now.

Two years may not even be enough dude. Though that is clearly possible, the circumstances have changed from 2017 onwards. As you've said, any investor would have hesitations to invest big in a market that pumped from less than 1k to 20k in a year, and then dropped from 20k to 4k is less than a year. Too many considerations that's why i don't count too much on a skyrocketing btc the scale of 2017 again.
1470  Economy / Speculation / Re: I am a time-traveler from the future, here to beg you to stop what you are doing on: December 21, 2018, 05:31:10 PM
What is interesting about the text is not the debate about if it is fictional or not. Of course it is a fictional text, the guy didn't travel in time.

What is interesting is the whole concept of what he idealized. Bitcoin going to millions, Reddit tips becoming more money than you ever dreamed of, the citadel for Bitcoin riches, etc.

It is an extrapolation of the reality we all experienced already: 20million dollars pizza is real ,for example

Lol. We're having quite a lot of time travellers already here in the forums nowadays lol. Though i agree with some of your points dude, the time traveller's thoughts were a bit overblown for me. I do believe that btc will have a very essential part to play and it may value quite a lot but not to that extent.
1471  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin still have a chance to goes 15k by the end of 2018,Really? on: December 21, 2018, 05:27:21 PM

It still is possible but by the number of people who have bought btc at a cheaper rate this time, they will all be taking profit before the price even get to hit $10k. All due the fear of bitcoin droping again. What we need is more people believing in this market and the constantly number of them increasing everyday may just be the chance for BTC to hit more than $10k again.
You say if there is still a possibility to rise to 8k-10k at the end of this year? quite interesting, that means there must be a price increase of around 300% of the current price.

Well we can all dream of something as ambitious as that though lol. With less than 2 weeks to go, even if we indeed get a bull run, i doubt it'll be enough to even get us above 10k.
1472  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bull Run or Dead Cat Bouncing ? on: December 21, 2018, 05:25:30 PM
Who cares if this is a dead cat bounce anyway if you are long? Back in 2014 as in 2018, the whole year was filled with dead cat bounces. Anyone lucky enough to be fooled by one or more and holding till today is doing just fine.

Yeah it always happen in a market as volatile as this. Though i'd say what's happening right now is neither a desd cat bounce or a bull run. I wouldn't give much fuss about this since it's not that significant yet. Not a month ago this current value would already cause panic.
1473  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: The bull is here on: December 20, 2018, 05:49:07 PM
Today bitcoin, ethereum, ripple, eos, has gone up over by 12% gain on coinmarketcap over 9billion dollar has been trown into the market in less than 6hours.. is this the pump?? Are we looking at a bull run??

When bitcoin went up in the market for sure it will follows automatic by some of the potentials altcoins who got dumped their price value for the past  

couple of days. But I cannot consider it is the beginning of bull run, though I want it to be happen actually.




Yeah unless this continues til next year and propel us again back to above 7k. What's happening now is of course a relief and let's say a kind of run. But until this is sustained for a long time, i'd still say we won't have a bull run this year
1474  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: This is the FINAL on: December 20, 2018, 05:42:51 PM
The development about technology of Blockchain in the future is undeniable, but the use of cryptocurrency effectively in each blockchain system is one issue that we need to consider and find out specific resolution plan
That's absolutely true. Blockchain technology is a very good thing in this modern era, but as you say, the problem that has to be solved is its use. As we know, there are so many new projects but most of them are just a scam. Hope there will be a really good project in using the great technology.

There would still be a lot of changes that's for sure. And i think even developers admit that blockchain isn't perfect yet. The future is still a long way to go and i don't think anything's final at this point.
1475  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Neo to surpass Eth on: December 20, 2018, 05:38:55 PM
Everyone keeps saying that neo will surpass eth.. how come then the price hasn't even gone over $100 :/
NEO does not surpass ETH, but more precisely it is NEO will be ETH toughest rival in the future.
Remember in the future.
Such rivals are now on the market a lot , and EOS and stellar and ada, and for some reason, not one opponent has not yet approached the Ethereum, and I doubt that someday it will happen

Lol. Everyone seems to be picking ether off these days. Well i still believe it the way i did when it was strongly second to btc. And it's showing good signs as of lately so let's see. Got myself a good bag of ethers by the way and they're looking good now.
1476  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Does anybody buy TRON TRX? on: December 20, 2018, 05:35:45 PM
Got myself a good 20% up my initial investment with tron for the past 4 weeks. And that's when a time the market was bleeding quite profusely. I believe it's still going to make progress. 😁
1477  Other / Off-topic / Re: will bitcoin give surprise, ?? on: December 20, 2018, 05:33:22 PM
I am waiting for the better surprises. The new investors have started to enter the market again. They are actively buying the cryptocurrencies now.

Just don't get your hopes up that much dude. Be vigilant. For all we know the next surprise might just be another drop like what happened mid november. Though hopefully we sustain this current trend.
1478  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The new era of BITCOIN is here on: December 20, 2018, 05:27:54 PM
yeah there will be no one who knows about the future of Bitcoin and I see at this time the price of Bitcoin will not experience a drastic decline again. now the price of Bitcoin is approaching $ 4k and it's a good increase so far, this is a good opportunity to buy not sell because big profits will await you in the future.
well, it will get better when the end of this year the price of bitcoin managed to pass the price of $ 4k. well, even though it has a high probability, however, I think a real development will occur within 10 days.

Let's cross our fingers dude. Hopefully those high holders have time still to initiate a strong move during the holidays. 4k has been broken and though it's still at a low point, it's the upward direction that we're all looking at right now.
1479  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Did we get what we asked for - less Bitcoin volatility? on: December 20, 2018, 05:25:22 PM
Many people who enter the world of bitcoin are natural. Because bitcoin is indeed worth studying and possessing, even for investors or brokers. All have the right to have it.

People were complaining before about high volatility and it slowed for a few months. But one thing we have to understand is that it will continue to be volatile. Probably just not as much in the future but any steady movement will not really last the way people want to.
1480  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin losing value is nothing surprising, will continue on: December 20, 2018, 05:23:03 PM
indeed the current value of Bitcoin is very far different from the end of years 2017 ago and this is currently the worst decline ever. some people have started to not believe in Bitcoin and say Bitcoin will die. I think this not will continue again because the bear market is over and I'm sure Bitcoin will return to its highest value it again.
Yes the price of bitcoin falls does not mean that bitcoin will die just because it loses its value, for those who assume bitcoin will die they only spill their disappointment about the crypto market, maybe. But we can see that the market is slowly increasing, I hope this increase will continue to make many people regret bitcoin for leaving it.
There are many people are worrying because of the abnormal movement of the bitcoin in the market. The price of the bitcoin is still down but it is not a mean that it will die because of it. It is true that the market is now recovering and we can now see a lot of good changes.

It's not the worst decline ever. People's expectations after that 2017 run made it seem like the worst decline ever but it's not. Bitcoin will eventually regain it's value and possibly even beyond but it will come in due time.
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