Perhaps the speakers should be contacted by someone reputable and informed that the organizers are crooks...
they are no crooks they just prefer not to answer any mails or to do any action as soon as it gets compilicated. ^^ good to know if you want to do businness with them |
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The short version is that:
Amir, Patrick and Donald of Intersango have all made this problem MUCH MUCH WORSE by refusing to act or even reply to emails.
Because of those three, everyone who had money in Bitcoinca will receive back less money than they would have, had they been cooperative.
They should be ashamed.
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eg pirate:
i dont know what he does. and i am sure nobody who makes "pirate is a scam"-post does. but why so much hate?
BECAUSE we don't know what he does. There's not even evidence that he doesn't do nothing with the coins, other than a few power plays here and there. Pirate has literally only shown one sign that he isn't a ponzi: he appeared in public. The hate is well deserved. uh? you say that everybody who does not want to talk about his business deserves hate? sorry i can't follow your logic here. (only problem i see with pirate is that he is a big part of bitcoins economy. if he fails many will fall with him - but i dont think this is really pirates fault. in my opinion its just poor risk management) |
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Well that got me to dcao.org, but all I could find about UABB was FUD about how it's probably a scam. which kind of prooves the point of this thread  Lol  MMORPG's where probably the first place to accept the concept of virtual currencies and are usually full of the same kind of drama and accusations. Trouble is many of their basic economic structures have been rewarding players handsomely for scamming and grabbing what they can and in a lot of them you have to pay to say 'Foo is a scammer' to the whole community. sounds like a good idea but i prefer: "incentive to do good things" vs "punishment for doing bad things" maybe a kind of "builtin" auto-donation feature powered by votes on a post? |
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Well that got me to dcao.org, but all I could find about UABB was FUD about how it's probably a scam. which kind of prooves the point of this thread |
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jealously is a problem, you're right with that. greed is also one i guess.
but why is this a majority?
Since money has a way of making people emotional anyway, it seems fitting that a community based around money could be riled up easily, especially when that currency in question is something many neither understand how to secure properly nor benefit from its existence easily due to a lack of creativity. I remember when I first introduced the idea of the UABB. It got torn to shreds, but a year later people are begging for it. I remember when I first posted about the DCAO. It got everyone claiming nonsense about freemasonry, but now it's a thriving and productive staple to bitcoin's enterprise. I remember when I first posted about the Christmas Special. No one believed it would ever be made. I remember when I first posted about Bitcoin Magazine. It got everyone doubting "it could be done".  I remember when I first posted about the Ellet. Frankly speaking, this community has a memory problem and lacks all manner of imagination and style. i thought only germans are against new stuff but you are right every new project has to "escape" all naysayers (esp here at bitcointalk). IMHO its just gotton worse sind january and i hope we'll find a way to be proactive and productive again. |
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jealously is a problem, you're right with that. greed is also one i guess.
but why is this a majority?
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where is all the spirit gone?
i loved this forum, because of new project developments, new ideas and nice people.
but now it seems only scams do matter. everybody tries to hide his ass or try to be a detective.
eg pirate:
i dont know what he does. and i am sure nobody who makes "pirate is a scam"-post does. but why so much hate?
just keep your opinion to yourself or HELP people by teaching them to do diligince and risk management.
eg bitcoinica:
ok i am really angry about that (as i lost money): but why are there so many people (who dont lost money at all) who think its their job to insult people or people who tries to be a detective again? do we really need more than 6 posts with the same content?
please: focus on bitcoin again!
i guess most of us want bitcoins to succeed. a key to success is to focus on your strongs - and not whining about bad things.
^^ please do so!
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You have to actually make a deposit, thats the catch.
Secondly, there are no guarantees, its 100% risk. So do I lose the initial deposit and only receive the weekly interest in return? Is this in any way not a pyramid scheme? no you won't loose your initial deposit (ok you may and its not VERY unlikely) bitcoinmax is just a pass through to pirate - which means if pirate defaults bitcoinmax will not pay out anything. there are many threads about him at bitcointalk and many people thinks he runs a ponzy (personally i dont know and i dont really care because i got my initial deposit back through paid interests - so i cant really loose) |
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let's play "spot the difference" again...
site and FAQ have both been updated.
5btc minimum deposit? |
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Threads like this remind me...
There will never be a "bigger, better" bitcoin (I realize litecoin is not this, or intending to be this, continue reading). People on this forum talk about bitcoin losing value when a better cryptocurrency arrives. This thread explains why that will NEVER happen. Bitcoin is a one-of-a-kind, simply because it happened to become well-bootstrapped before it could be bullied around at the whims of some "dude."
That said, I don't really give three shits or another about litecoin. I do hate to see someone's hard work get destroyed. BTCX is the fat kid knocking over sandcastles at the beach.
But remember, they are just sandcastles.
*grabs popcorn
*buys bitcoins
+1 but i did make some good btc with ltc trading... * grabs popcorn |
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So you want that GLBSE trusts MtGox more than others by requiring fewer confirmations - or what does "green address" mean?
basically: yes for how green addresses work see jav's proposal |
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i would like to see a "green address" feature to reduce waiting time when i withdraw from mtgox directly to glbse.
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So is this possible? And if so what will happen to the ltc block chain?
Sure it's possible, it's only between 400-600 gpus required. And thats not impossible to get ahold of. What will happen? People won't trust it anymore so they will sell and abandon it. Thats what will happen. Yes, it's possible. Not even bitcoin is immune from 51% attacks. Though with bitcoin it's much harder, but then someone with an ASIC can attack it if they wanted to. Satoshi did say that people would not try to 51% bitcoin, because if they had that much hash power, they would earn more money by mining it normally than by attacking it. This is true with Litecoin right now. If BCX used his hashpower to mine Litecoin, he would make more money than to try to do a double spend with a 51% attack. If BCX is just going to fork the chain for 24 hours. Then what would happen is that all transactions within that 24 hours period would be reverted. And those transactions will then be replayed on the new forked chain if they are still applicable. If they cannot be replayed, then a double spend will happen. (Reminds me when I did a "git rebase" on the litecoin code just a few days ago and ran into a ton of merge conflicts.) Normally, only the attacker would be able to double spend his coins. Since no one else is aware of the attack and would be able to muck with his transactions to double spend them. But the double spend by the attacker will have ripple effects that would potentially invalidate a lot of other transactions. I think Litecoin needs some centralization right now. Oh wait... corrected for you |
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I want to tell you, but I can't. It's the only thing NDA'd.
All I can say is, the money isn't enough to compensate for my unhappiness and worries during this period.
i feel you deserve every bitcent/usd of it. thank you again for your 5k btc. i dont believe you are the hacker. but as soon as police is involved i am pretty sure they'll have questions for you. i wish you all the best. |
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It worked not for me ;( did you reinvest your earnings? mine should've been sent to me. EDIT: payment received thanks payb.tc and pirate |
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if the forum is down, email admin @ payb.tc
Another idea would be a "contact us" button at bitcoinmax.com (next to the forum link?) the thing i'm a little afraid of there is that, at the moment only forum members can contact me. if i open it up to non-forum members contacting me, i'll have to have all my scripts in place and as much automated as possible so that i can create accounts / do withdrawals with 1 click, etc. i would still prefer a simple withdraw form (this does not mean it has to withdraw immediatly) contact form would fit also - you could just sent the current login with it. |
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i'm risking 100 BTC of my own coins to make 2% per week on it. <- this is the part that doesn't make sense to do this... when i could just get the full 7% from BST with the same risk level by depositing 100 extra into my account.
Actually you might even sell insurance on Pirate's default without risking a single Bitcent of yours: just selling partial insurance (like the 30% from PPT-x), covered only by the fees you collected up to that moment (and ideally invested in some of the most safe assets on the GLBSE -but not in anything Pirate-related). The advantage for you is that you would take your cut anyway to pay for your work and time, and, if Pirate do not default, all the insurance funds remains yours. For your clients, the peace of mind without the trouble of diversifying their investments themselves might be more than enough. sorry if it's harsh, but i've high-lighted the words that stuck out for me when reading that. i know that one of the things people like about bitcoin max is not having to deal with gblse, and i can totally understand that, because i don't want to either. i don't have an account there and it seems way too complicated, and to be honest, it seems like too much effort. yes and i really like your service and i dont see a need to complicate it (a withdraw feature through the site would be nice though). and: i think everbody should have its own risk-management (i even see bitcoinmax as paybt.c's risk-management for pirate) and should decide for himself how much he is willing to risk and what he thinks are safe invests. btw: nice work paybt.c. you are my favorite passthrough! any progress if we could use/see pirates sub-account page? |
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I'm not good enough at physics to know if there is a real threat to the circuits them selves. I'm not concerned with power issues, fuses and breakers will handle that. But if anything could fry the chips that have no metal around them that is grounded, many of us have a problem, cause we all have our FPGAs out in the open, ungrounded.
why dont just ground it then? luckily i live in germany: nearly every house (except very old ones) are grounded. i've even grounded one myself - its really easy. |
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TOS does not break local law
LP does not help if the businness owners do BS
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