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1581  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading Bitcoin at this moment is right? on: December 14, 2018, 04:11:58 PM
I feel trading at this moment is not right and waiting is better
Yes it's right because this so Good to trade a bitcoin in Others because bitcoin has have a Important work so that we should trade bitcoin for the buyer.

Huh? What does that even mean dude? You high or something while posting? You always consider the market movement when you trade and there's nothing to made from a market that's constantly going downwards.
1582  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Bear time is near to end on: December 14, 2018, 04:07:31 PM
you are right , the Bulls are coming
It seems that the bear market has come to end I hope there will be a quick bull run and it will continue until next next year. This bearish market lead the cryptocurrency to drop to the bottom like what happen to bitcoin which keep on dropping. I hope the bearish will stop in the 1st day of January 2019.

Obviously you haven't been paying attention to the market dude. A bull run is not even in the conversation right now. Currently majority of the market is down again. It's ok to check cmc dude.
1583  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Holding BTC at this satge is a bad idea? on: December 13, 2018, 06:02:07 PM
Hold, sell and buy must be based on an analysis.Especially as to sell at such low price as now nobody wants.

This stage is right to hold Bitcoin. The cryptocurrency price is too low to sell it. If you get rid of BTC now, when the market is, sure, down, you will certainly lose. Just do not touch your crypto these days.

Well i don't think selling right now is the better option even if the possibility of btc dropping further is high. I can't think of any other option especially if you got in close to it's peak. It's  huge loss to swallow if you sell now.
1584  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is it just me, or are most of us actually just forgetful, greedy bastards? on: December 13, 2018, 05:59:59 PM
I suppose a few people in crypto ARE forgetfull and greedy. It is not bad or good. It is just the way it is. Bitcoins is a new phenomenon and rather interesting one, and still those who get into this sphere dream to become rich quick.

Yes, people search and find, work and try ... all just want to have money, want to be rich. And you, me and everyone here too, this is just an example, that all aiming at it is profit and profit is all Shocked.

Well at times its a trap for new blood. We all know it doesn't work that way in crypto. Having that kind of midset setd you up for losses and disappointment. Much like for anything associated with greed.
1585  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Did Bitcoin actually died ? Yes, more than 320 times already on: December 13, 2018, 05:47:50 PM
Bitcoin did not die and will not die. At least, not in the nearest future. The usefulness of bitcoin is not just in its worth as a store of value but also as a medium of exchange. It is worth much more than its daily fluctuations in value.
What do you mean about die? Because for me the meaning die is do not have any worth or easy to say that there is no value on a certain thing. In addition, I can't see any image that bitcoin die and I think it is not possible that the top 1 cryptocurrency will die.

Op most likely meant that btc dropped to concerning lows a lot of times already. Not actually die as in literally lose value. In btc's 10 years, there have been a lot of times it happened, and you can include the recent "crash" To that. Though historically, bitcoin has risen quite well from every death 😁
1586  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is good seeing higher institutions embracing Cryptocurrency on: December 13, 2018, 05:45:07 PM
if they are truly embracing cryptocurrencies in their current form and are improving the world then yes. but so far what i have seen is that everyone including these institutions that you are talking about are only interested in making profit from cryptocurrencies. for example most of them only use blockchain technology as some sort of hyped up term to sell their services or worse create an ICO.

There are many holes in crypto's current form that would make it difficult for these high institutions to fully accept crypto. There has to be some regulations that would give assurance and confidence to these people that they can adopt it's usage without major risks to thenselves.
1587  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: That made my day, really on: December 13, 2018, 05:21:27 PM

In a few years there'll only one Bitcoin. Only one should prevail and we all know which one it will be


Agree entirely that only one should prevail, and only one might end up being relevant but I doubt the others will just disappear, they'll always be hanging around in bitcoin's shadow and stealing away any attention and money that they can.

I tend to disagree with this view

Though I understand your reasoning (and where it fails). Basically, you assume that things will go on as before (which is kind of natural assumption). But they won't. During the dotcom era there were many thousands of startups which were all fake and bogus, just like the majority of shitcoins of today and yesterday. They are all long gone, and only a few valid and legit ones have survived (think Amazon here). In a nutshell, I expect all these coins to be gone in a couple of years. Technically, they may not be gone as in delisted from everywhere and abandoned altogether, but they will definitely be no longer relevant in the sense you mean it. Bitcoin is a survivor, Litecoin is a survivor, even Dogecoin is a survivor, but the rest of the pack are not going to make it

Yeah and some of these coins like ltc and eth are real projects and have actual uses already. Some coin may even rise in the future to topple btc. Crypto market is vast and with vert big potential. Bitcoin by itself won't be able to fill it.
1588  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Three things you should not do when Bitcoin prices drop! on: December 13, 2018, 05:02:03 PM
When the market is down. Some people sell to cut their loss and later lament and feel sorry for themselves. Forgetting the advice of not to panic sell and HODL

Well some sell to cut loss and re enter the market. Hodling isn't always the answer in a bear market. Utilize stop loss. Many day traders can still make money out of this kind of market movement.
1589  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is it a good idea to buy some bitcoin now? on: December 13, 2018, 04:54:35 PM
As currently, Bitcoin price is about $3400, almost the lowest price of past 10 months.

Is it the right time to invest some for the moment?

Thank you for any suggestion

Worth investing mate, yes indeed buying at cheap prices and selling for good profit is what everyone thinks about. Make use of it take it as a advantage  and fill your bag as much as you can, plan it for long-term don't imagine about the future it will be good.
Actually, it is also taken into account to buy and hold for a while, because predictions for bitcoin will return to glory, indeed, there has been much discussion that will happen at the end of the year, but just how do we manage it
yes, as well as the forecasts reported in 2019, many people say that this is the time to buy and must hold it until it recovers. I hope that happens.
Well to be a little more exact, it' the lowest in mire than a year dating back to mid 2017 before bitcoin made it's historic run. And i don't think we have to rely on these predictiond about 2019. I remember the predictions for the last quarter of 2018 were quite promising lol.
1590  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: bitcoin bankruptcy on: December 13, 2018, 04:39:50 PM
don't despair, I'm not sure that this will end up bankrupt. bitcoin is still valuable and has a future. we'll see the next two years the market will come back, don't let panic become a big problem.
You won't find anything instant.

Well bitcoin may not, but people have. Those that got in close to the peak are likely to have been near bankruptcy if they sold now lol.
1591  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bullrun will always come , Newbies do your research well on: December 13, 2018, 04:29:40 PM
I still don't understand why people are so worried about bitcoin present condition, new cryptocurrency investors are the ones getting everything wrongly. After months of living in worries i desperately want to understand how crypto works ,while using coinmarket cap I came to understand that Bullrun and bear run will always come around ,from 2009 to 2017 graph clears all my doubts as many bullrun has been in existence since day 1, 2017 was the highest ,what will be next ? 20k ? 30k or double of that ? We all need to chill and relax ,this days will always find their way back in time .Do your research ,past histories have all your answers
They are really worried now because the price is in bad condition and even all solid cryptocurrencies are in bad situation. Aside from worrying because of the price some people use this opportunity to buy bitcoin. In terms of bull run we just need to wait because it will happen again.

Nope. They are worried because they might not afford holding long enough for that bull run you're talking about. Of course if they can hold a year or more, just as you've said, they'd be less worried about the current situation.
1592  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Who's The Loser Here? on: December 13, 2018, 04:26:26 PM
With the situation on ground, I'm  seeing Bitcoin at $3000 before the end of December. http://cryptoinfowatch.com/bitcoin-price-performance-show-november-as-the-worst-month-in-7-years/

The one that is the loser in here are those who sell their assets or possesions at the lower price. The people who cannot wait for the peak and decided to sell it with the lower amount is at loss because they will or cannot experience the peak. We only need to wait in order for us to gain what we desire.

Well who could tell. We could all be losers in the end or we could be making good profits. I got tired of trying to anticipate what's going to happen so i just try to go with the flow. I'm holding long term anyways so i'm not going to be a loser yet 🤣
1593  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: No Christmas gifts this year, all my money in Bitcoin on: December 13, 2018, 04:22:59 PM
Same here I couldn't spend too much money right now I think I should take advantage of the current market,
I should buy crypto while I can and while the market is still low hold it and celebrate later when I get my profit from it.

Lol. What if that "later" Comes in 2020? You basically wasted fully celebrating this season thinking that the market will have it's own christmas when a bull run happens. Well i respect that but we can't get back the times we spend during christmas celebrations so i'd prefer to deal with crypto afterwards.
1594  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How do you measure the success of Bitcoin? on: December 13, 2018, 04:16:06 PM
it is clear to measure the success of the crypto currency with the results and profits with our investment and with a large profit, of course the risk will also get a big risk too

That's not it. Bitcoin wasn't made to simply be something where people can make money from. It was made to advance the way we do transactions and make it easier. Once we achieved that and bitcoin becomes accepted openly by governments, then i think that would be real success.
1595  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The BIGGEST Thing Happening In Crypto, Nobody Is Talking About This? on: December 13, 2018, 04:02:03 PM
This Federal Reserve policy change Is the BIGGEST thing happening In crypto right now.

Bitcoin is close to putting in the low and setting up for an epic bull run. Legendary Trader Paul Tudor Jones shares his insight into a Fed policy shift. Learn why that is the most important thing happening in the cryptocurrency markets right now.

Super interesting, learn why,




lol. looks like self promotion of some sort but okay. I don't think Paul can actually predict the future just like many other predictors out there and I would take it with a big grain of salt and wait for something from officials although it's unlikely that it would affect anything.

Me too. It seems anything from the government will have little effect if there'd even be one. Unless they'd openly announce full support for bitcoin which could only happen in our dreams for now.
1596  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is Bitcoin Going To Zero? on: December 13, 2018, 03:56:52 PM
do not invent. With Bitcoin, everything will be fine in the future and I am sure that it will cost $ 20k.
Of course the opinion that you say that the price of bitcoin will go to $ 20K, is a dream for all who follow crypto because in recent months bitcoin has been in a really unpleasant price. hopefully the price will rise in the near future


A dream for all who follow crypto and for those that bought in close to that range and are still holding lol. I don't think we should be talking about 20k at this point since it may very well take a year or two to get back to that state. At least i also believe we will be back there 😁
1597  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why not just replace the bank infrastructure with something better on: December 13, 2018, 03:53:55 PM
kingscorpio:
here is a novel concept..

imagine instead of banks creating money by getting loan applicants to sign a promissory note to magic up new credit as fresh cash..(PoS)

imagine instead farmers creating money by mining the ground for assets to sell as fresh cash..(PoW)

imagine a world where the education system creates money by students studying real work skills and their grades(scholastic credit) became the cash that they could spend.
EG the better you study/better grade you got the more cash you get.

thus then removes a whole education sector out of needing a government tax treasury. because the education sector becomes self funding.

oh boy we surely will get a cash free society this way.

people work for money that

1. others value and use
2. think its good for them to work for, in the long term.

for bitcoin only 1st is partially the case, people dont want to use it.

Though it's a good thing to ponder about, i think we're not yet primed for changes like that. I mean, we've all grown so used to the current system that many of us would think nothing else would work. We need to have open minds for that.
1598  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How many times you heard the bitcoin gonna die? on: December 13, 2018, 03:48:22 PM
Never thought of counting it. But hearing all of debates on the topic there is a saying that comes to my mind:    When the dogs bark, the camels just keep walking.

Lol. A lot of people will always be more than willing to spew out negative remarks about btc when the market is in this kind of situation. Expect them to make noise in a bear market, they'll all shut up when the trend reverses.
1599  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Miss Universe 2018 betting discussion on: December 12, 2018, 05:24:49 PM
Miss universe is very unpredictable because the final judgement will be base on the question and answer portion.
They maybe have the beauty but I don't see any value on that odds, in short not betting on the Philippines or South Africa.

Well you haven't seen them answer questions yet right? Though probably all of them have beauty and brains, the early.favorites do get an advantage going into the pageant since people will be looking for them. And ms. Phil and SA are making noise this early.
1600  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: HODL for only the brave !? on: December 12, 2018, 04:24:59 PM
And now only this and remains. Selling at this price makes no sense. We can only wait for better times and hope for another large pump. Then our hopes will come true. Only while it is unknown how many will have to wait.

Lol. Now this is becoming a test of patience for holders like us haha. And i think of you've held long enough up to this point, you're likely to hold until we see a positive movement from the market. I mean, we've come this far right? Wouldn't make sense to lose it all 😁
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