I already posted it was a joke, what can I possibly send him, "I am sorry that one part of my post was supposed to be some kind of humor? Although I get that pugman is just trying to be pragmatic and turn down the drama, I find the modern apology culture to be quite odious. Wresting an insincere apology from someone who did nothing wrong, and accepting an insincere apology from a manipulative criminal who is just trying to steal back trust, are two sides of the same apology shitcoin. So if you want to bury the hatchet as deeply as you can, why don’t you send Timelord a polite PM saying, “Dear ‘Sir’: I’m sorry you feel like my innocently-intended bawdy joke was somehow ‘disrespectful’ toward you. Please ‘forgive’ me. P.S., you are the ‘master’ of scare-quotes; I ‘learn’ at your feet.” From all you have said in this thread, it seems that would be sincere. We could then wait with bated breath for his apology for making accusations against you on the basis of no evidence. Am I not a master of apologetic diplomacy? So sorry!
dragonvslinux, so sorry, I was deliberately trying to not publicly criticize you—much less to start some off-topic flamage in a thread about Timelord2067. I don’t want to derail the thread here; but if you are accusing me of bad PGP practice, well, I have a reputation to maintain! Why the mere fact that you posted about it make this so obvious? johhnyUA was the first to publicly call for a signed statement from me, with the appropriate remark that “His pgp keys is well known” and a handy link. Husna QA has had my public key for a long time; he is the author of the Indonesian forum PGP tutorial, where I am listed in the credits that I unfortunately can’t read. Both of them replied to my signed statement in the PGP key thread before you did, plus someone else who apparently used Keybase ( please, don’t). (that hadn't previously been staked)  Key management on this forum is a train wreck; and I would not expect for you to find it buried in that disorganized thread. However, it is there—ironically, first brought there by Timelord2067. See below. You're wrong though, I wasn't trying to help you (sorry). I saw a verification error. Namely, you signing a message without previously staked key and was curious so investigated... Nope. It’s there—at least the important part, the full fingerprint, plus a binding signed statement demonstrating possession of the corresponding private key. [Edit: Oops, I mixed up what I had posted in which thread.] (The latter is actually unnecessary for me, since I bound my Bitcoin Forum userid into a PGP key userid.) That was the only stuff sensible to “stake” at a time before the public keyserver network crashed and burned. From the thread where you say I didn’t “stake” anything, n.b. Timelord’s archive of my profile page (here changed from http to https in the quote): Thanks for noticing that. My PGP key fingerprints are: Also, I had previously staked my PGP key fingerprint with a binding signed message in another “stake” thread. Also, my PGP key fingerprint has been in the signature of every forum post that I have ever made since December 2017, as may be verified in the Internet Archive and other sources. —And in my signature in archived messages to bitcoin-dev, tor-dev, and elsewhere. —And... I have been at pains to spread my PGP identity root-of-trust fingerprint so far and wide that it should be infeasible even for powerful attackers to fake or erase it everywhere all at once. I am glad that you put so much effort into verifying my key. Cryptographic authentication is important in the small, to protect my account from theft, and important in the large, to ward off Faketoshi-style scams. However, neither johhny, Husna, nor I made any “error” here; and really, there was no need for you to out yourself in this thread. PS - Sounds like you're trying to a shill a shitcoin. OK, assemble the evidence and tag me for it. If your evidence is good, then I expect that Lauda will step up and blast me to Hell. I will take a catnap whilst I wait.
With due apologies, I will now refocus on the thread topics: Timelord2067’s vendetta over marlboroza’s masturbatory humour, suchmoon’s scandalous ulterior motives for promoting laughs, and Timelord2067’s ~poor judgment (or worse) in basing tags on Quicksold nonsense. At least, one of those is not funny. Well, he can read everything in this thread and respond. It is up to him now to react. |
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The connection between you and Lauda makes no sense, its like as if you both are humans. But Lauda is a CAT! A FRIGGING CAT! Nullius can approve too!!! Since Timelord2067 deems Quickseller’s alt-account accusations to be reliable evidence, here is another: Nullius' knowledge about blockchain science and cryptography is a dead giveaway.... He could even be Satoshi.  nullius is lauda. That is very clear. Anyone who does not see this is simply closing their eyes. Wait, does this mean that I am marlboroza, the feline inventor of Bitcoin? Help, I am confused!
It is impossible for me not to see and to forget first positive feedback I received. I masturbated on it for few days IIRC. Wait, how is that even offensive to Timelord2067? It is not “disrespectful” of him as he subsequently alleged in the threads you cited. I would infer prickly religious sensibilities (unapproved by the One True Religion), except that his avatar makes that a bit improbable. I really cannot imagine any other reason why he would be even mildly annoyed, much less pick up some sort of vendetta against you over that. The fact that one of my early positive feedbacks was, unfortunately, a literal declaration of love from a honeytrap scammer who started here by fooling his/her/its way through GirlsGoneBitcoin verification is totally, absolutely irrelevant to my inability to conceive of any reason to see your feedback masturbation joke as anything but complimentary.
Shhhhh... I'm a secret agent for sarcasm now, don't blow my cover. QUOTED! Expect to see this admission of nefarious motives pop up at unexpected times, far into the future. |
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The main account is obviously the one with more meritzzzz. The real nullius is the one with no history of promoting the DeepOnion scam. (I am deliberately not mentioning who PMed you, because I don’t want to dishonourably backtalk him in an unrelated thread whereas I think that he was sincerely trying to help me. I am just mentioning it to be clear, I did not ask for that help.) j/k You still have not explained why sarcasm stopped paying for your signature. Why were you banned from sarcasm’s campaign, hmmm? Very suspicious! You did not deny that sarcasm banned you. I will now flag and tag you, and use this post as my evidence. [Edit: Added classic suchmoon quote for a damaging admission, appropriately stripped of all context.] |
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Timelord has been known to accuse the randomest of people as alts, ...and, in my case, publicly endorsed Quickseller’s (!) perennial accusation that “nullius” is just the latest in a long string of alts. (Protip for Quickseller: It’s called projection.)
Below is a draft of a PM that I wrote earlier with intent to send it to Timelord2067. I held it, debating whether what began as a public tag should be taken to private discussions. I see no reason to; and I am always wary of engaging in private arguments with parties whom I do not trust or even know very well, which may foreseeably lead to public misquotes or worse. Now that I see this thread, I realize that it’s probably better just to post it here. I invite Timelord2067’s “‘clarification’”. The context: Based on that, I put ~Timelord2067 on the new trust list I installed yesterday, and left the following neutral trust feedback dated 2020-01-16: I dashed that off-the-cuff, while busy with exceedingly thorough vetting of trust-list inclusions. (I take trust seriously.*) On further reflection, it’s not harmless; see below. (* Wherefore you should not take offence if you were not included, or if I later remove your inclusion without ~excluding you. I spent hours examining the impact that each inclusion would have, and striking the names of people whom I respect for reasons that verge on the obsessive. I expect for my inclusions list to grow slowly, if at all, and for my exclusions list to grow rapidly. Motto for nullius, named “of nobody”: Trust nobody.)
The following quote is of neutral trust feedback that Timelord2067 left for me on 2020-01-17 (today).
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=976210nullius is reverse engineering his negative trust of me. (and has never communicated his "concerns" with me for "clarification") You made a public statement on my trust page directly referencing Quickseller’s post, which is false from start to finish. That was on your part an exercise of poor judgment—and worse, a false statement by you yourself. So, being then in a lenient mood, I simply excluded reliance on your judgment, and made a statement publicly (just like yours) explaining why. That was the actual reason for my ~. There was no “reverse-engineering”. It further shows poor judgment (or worse) that you pretend to read my mind, and insinuate unstated ulterior motives to deny the quite reasonable motive I plainly stated. I don’t know why you are using scare quotes, but I will set that aside. If you wish to “clarify”, then please explain how it did not show poor judgment (and worse) for you to implicitly endorse the veracity of this: He moved on. The account he was as posting from was not his first not by a long shot and likely won’t be his last.
Now, for a contrast just to show how ridiculous is your assertion that I am “reverse-engineering” my stated reasons... As you may have noticed, suchmoon outright red-tagged my account with the following negative feedback dated 2019-01-10: This feedback serves as a warning that this user has been inactive for a long time. You should be careful if this account reactivates and attempts to trade. The feedback was truthful; and the red-tag was reasonable, insofar as this would be a very valuable account for anyone who could compromise it. I did not complain—to the contrary! I PMed a PGP-signed statement to suchmoon on 2020-01-01, with outright thanks for red-tagging my account (“Good call. I appreciate the prophylactic effect of the negative, in so far as it makes the account unattractive for theft.”). If you wish to verify this, I unequivocally consent to suchmoon disclosing that PM. (And by the way, the tag was not removed for several weeks thereafter; I still did not complain, for I myself had suggested that suchmoon wait and watch to be sure that I am really me. IIUC, another user independently PMed suchmoon and asked for its removal.) suchmoon’s negative feedback, and the stated reasons therefor, showed wise judgment. That was protecting the forum—and protecting me, too. I would not want for a Craig Wright type of character to break into my forum account and promote some scam as “Nullian Vision”. It took effort and personal merit for me to build my reputation. In case of a forum hack, identity thieves should not be able to abuse my good name for purposes that I would hate. Whereas your neutral tag idiotically made it look as if Quickseller knew something about me. Worse, by implication, you, Timelord2067, were telling the world that I float from alt to alt, and now I “moved on”. That shows much worse than poor judgment. I never had any conflict with you before, but that made me realize you do not care too much about the veracity of statements you make about other people. ~ exists for that reason. I do not want to see your tags as “trusted”; and I suggest that others should not, either.
Please be advised, if you want to squabble with me over this, I may disclose PMs on this subject if I think that’s necessary to protect myself, or otherwise warranted. I myself will stand by all I just said, any way that may arise; if you so desire, feel free to post this whole PM in Reputation. |
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This is growing into an excellent discussion. Although I do have much more to say here, I’ve recently been happy to step back and watch people examine the issue from different angles. Because of how merit is sometimes perceived, I must note, I did not agree with, or fully agree with, every post I recently merited. Some raised meritorious, albeit (in my opinion) arguable points that I encourage others to examine. Some good dialectics are organically picking up here; and I want to encourage intelligent, constructive discourse, as a necessary but insufficient precursor for action. Speaking of which...-> Sadly all those content gets deleted here  Yup. :–) Archived and then disposed of, per what I said before: If you want to post a statement that “Craig Wright is Satoshi Nakamoto” cryptographically signed by one of Satoshi’s known keys, then please feel free. I won’t delete it; indeed, I would be very interested to see that. If you want to contradict my OP, try intelligently explaining why identity theft isn’t identity theft. Thus far, your posts have been irrelevant to OP. If you continue to support identity theft with proof-by-repetition of arrant nonsense that has been exhaustively debunked all over the Internet, then you are not being honest toward Satoshi; and you may thus continue to find that I am in a bad mood, as I warned in OP. [...] Edit 2020-01-16: Sent two more of hv_’s irrelevant and/or dishonest and insulting posts to /dev/null. Archive of second page with both posts. Time to empty the bitbucket. |
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By the power vested in me by nobody, I, nullius, “of nobody”, do hereby declare that this useless thread is repurposed to be an official * humour thread! (* Officially per Nullian Scriptures.)THE FINAL SHOWDOWN? So who's the final boss and hidden boss? THE CYPHERKITTENFires red-tags from its cyphernetic paw-cannon: PROTIP: To “defeat” the Cypherkitten, whine at it in scatological terms, then promise to leave the forum to enjoy your MILLIONS FOR REAL. Now, who is which other monster? Reserved: nullius, the spider mastermind with a built-in sesquipedalian chaingun. I just did not yet have time to do the graphic. P.S. i only read the thread title In this case, I don’t blame you. Attempts to read OP cause cranial bleeding and a temporary reduction of one’s IQ.
Well yeah. I think it's a lie, but why would you tell anyone you were going on a very expensive holiday? It's very desperate. I suppose you also have a very large penis? The people who usually tell you about how big their dick is and how much they earn usually aren't as wealthy or girthy as they make out but they'll certainly try tell you about it because they need the validation and want to be important. BTW, you could easily prove what I'm asking without revealing any personal information but I guess you're running away now? Shut up, Dr. Hilarious, and show some empathy! TOAA was born underprivileged in measure of both money and penis. He came to have “MILLIONS FOR REAL”, and tens of thousands of inches of penis, with the following business service method that you would probably try to suppress with demands for “evidence” that it “works”. YOU DID NOT MEET HIS CHALLENGE TO DEBUNK IT! Arse-felching coprophage. MAKE PENIS FAST!!!INSTRUCTIONS Follow these instructions EXACTLY, and in 20 to 60 days you will have received well over 50,000 inches of penis, all yours. This program has remained successful because of the inadequacy and vanity of the participants. Please continue its success by carefully adhering to the instructions. Welcome to the world of Mail Order Penis Enlargement! This little business is a little different than most cosmetic surgery. Your product is not solid (sic) and tangible, but rather a service. You are in the business of extending penii. Many small of endowment are happy to pay big bucks for this service. (The money made from the penis enlargement is secondary to the income which is made from people like yourself requesting that they be included in that list.) - Immediately cut off your penis at the base.
- Cut off the head of your penis, and pack it in ice.
- Take the remaining midsection of your penis, and cut it into 5 pieces of equal length.
- Immediately mail each piece to the first 5 names listed below starting at number 1 through number 5. Send penis only please (total investment your penis). Enclose a note with each piece stating: "Please add my name to your mailing list." (This is a legitimate service that you are requesting and you are paying your penis for this service).
- Remove the name that appears number 1 on the list. Move the other 9 names up one position. (Number 2 will become number 1 and number 3 will become number 2, etc.) Place your name, address and zip code in the number 10 position.
- Post the new letter with your name in the number 10 position into 10 (Ten) separate bulletin boards in the message base or to the file section, call the file, MAKE.PENIS.FAST.
- Within 60 days you will receive over 50,000 inches of PENIS. Keep a copy of this file for yourself so that you can use it again and again whenever you need penis enlargement. As soon as you mail out these letters you are automatically in the mail order business and people are sending you their penis to be placed on your mailing list. This list can then be rented to a reconstructive cosmetic surgeon that can be found in the Yellow Pages for additional income on a regular basis. The list will become more valuable as it grows in size. This is a service. This is perfectly legal. If you have any doubts, refer to Title 18, Sec. 1302 & 1341 of the postal lottery laws.
NOTE: Make sure you retain EVERY Name and Address sent to you, either on computer or hard copy, but do not discard the names and notes they send you. This is PROOF that you are truly providing a service and should the AMA, FDA, or some other Government Agency question you, you can provide them with this proof! Remember as each post is downloaded and the instructions carefully followed, five members will be reimbursed for their participation as a Penis Enlarger with one inch of penis each. Your name will move up the list geometrically so that when your name reaches the number five position you will be receiving thousands of inches in penis. [ list of 7 names and addresses elided] 8. Pat Robertson 666 God's Little Homophobe Road Anti-Christ Hills, VA 48307 9. Fred Phelps 14-U Our Saviour of the Closet Lane Orchard Lake, MI 48323 10. Jesse Helms 20840 Tobacco Mercenary Street Lung Cancer Hacks., VA 48038 Dear Friend, My name is Daniel J. Karnes. In September 1988 my life was repressed and the bible thumpers were hounding me like you wouldn't believe. I was never laid and my mental disability checks had run out. The only escape I had from the pressure of failure was my Apple computer and my bible. I longed to turn my fixation into my vocation. This January 1989 my family and I went on a ten day cruise to the tropics. I bought a Double-Wide Trailer with CASH in Feburary 1989. I am currently building a Self-Worship Temple on the West Coast of Florida, with a private S/M Dungeon with room for all of my closeted friends, and a beautiful view of the bay from my women's shoes closet and wardrobe. I will never be underendowed again. Today I am equipped! I have over 400,000 inches of penis (33,333 feet and 4 inches! ) to date and will become a million-incher within 4 or 5 months. Anyone can do the same. This penis enlargement making program works perfectly every time, 100% of the time. I have NEVER failed to earn 50,000 inches or more whenever I wanted. Best of all you never have to leave home except to go to your mailbox or reconstructive surgeon. In October 1988, I received a letter in the mail telling me how I could earn 50,000 inches of penis or more whenever I wanted. I was naturally very skeptical and threw the letter on the desk next to my computer. It's funny though, when you are desparately underendowed, backed into a corner, your mind does crazy things. I spent a frustating day looking through the want ads for a wife who didn't need sexual fulfillment. The pickings were sparse at best. That night I tried to unwind by booting up my Apple computer and calling several gay bulletin boards. I read several of the message posts and then glanced at the letter next to the computer. All at once it came to me, I now had the key to my dreams. I realized that with the power of the computer I could expand and enhance this penis making formula into the most unbelievable penis enlargement generator that has ever been created. I substituted the computer bulletion boards in place of the post office and electronically did by computer what others were doing 100% by mail. Now only a few letters are mailed manually. Most of the hard work is speedily downloaded to other bulletin boards throughout the world. If you believe that someday you deserve that lucky break that you have waited for all your life, simply follow the easy instructions below. Your dreams will come true. Sincerely yours, Daniel J. Karnes -- Why doesn't Wenchell's -- Serve Mogi Donuts? About six months ago I received the enclosed post in letter form. I ignored it. I received about five more of the same letter withn the next two weeks. I ignored them also. Of course, I was tempted to follow through and dreamed of making thousands of inches, but I was convinced it was just another gimmick and could not possibly work. I was wrong! About three weeks later I saw this same letter posted on a local bulletion board in Montreal. I liked the idea of giving it a try with my computer. I didn't expect much because I figured, if other people were as skeptical as I, they wouldn't be too quick to part with their penis. But, I buy lottery tickets weekly in my province and have nothing to show for it but ticket stubs. This week I decided to look at this as my weekly lottery purchase. I addressed the envelopes and mailed out one piece of my penis in each as directed. Two weeks went by and I didn't recieve anything in the mail. The fourth week rolled around and I couldn't believe what happened! I can't say I received 50,000 inches, but it was definitely well over 35,000! For the first time in all my years, I was adequately endowed. It was great. Of course, it didn't take me long to feel inadequate again so I am using this excellent penis enlargement opportunity once again. Follow the instructions and get ready to enjoy. Please send a copy of this letter along with the enclosed letter so together we can convince people who are skeptical that it really works! Good Luck, [Name deleted] St Agathe Que.
To find out more about penis enlargement, contact DJKarnes@netcom.com. This document is an attempt at humor. Anyone who flames me will be ignored as a humorless twit, who's indignation is without meaning. Source note: I first saw this floating around the Net at least 20 years ago; and it is surely much older. With a casual search of the current Web, the earliest dated version I could find was from 1994; it did not purport to be original, but was light on sourcing info. Based on the footer (as seen in several different copies I found), I must presume that DJKarnes@netcom.com was the original author. |
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We really sometimes create mistakes, the only thing we should do is learn from it... There are too many cons in this times nowadays... You tried, I fell for it.
One of the saddest things I've ever seen from the old guy. 😂 Eh, at least he wasn’t the absolute centrepiece in a forum sex scandal over a scammer who fooled multiple intelligent people from theymos on down. I retain that unfortunate distinguishment all for myself ( though it was his +10 on alia which originally brought him/her/it to my attention—hrrrumph). I doubt that this thread will run for five dozen pages, determined though The-Devil may be to attempt keeping it alive. A bad character was revealed, TMAN’s +50 is now in an account tantamount to a burn address, and TMAN will probably be more careful about whom he merit-bombs between F-bombs. So, it’s sad that TMAN got had; but he handled it in a stand-up way. Meanwhile, I see that a dishonest dirtbag already caught in numerous lies is treating marlboroza’s evidence to the fantastic rebuttal of “deny, deny, deny”— yawn. Scambusters will continue to investigate, no doubt uncovering more foulness; and this thread will eventually dribble off, leaving buried therein an off-hand comment revealing a datum far more important than such useless vile trash as The-Devil: Birthday cake.Oh well, Did You Know?(Even if you lots dont care, I,too dont care! 😂) Its my Damn Birthday Today! And Guess what?! It about to end, so nothing serious about this, in the end Trolls will be Toys 😂😊  Well, a slightly belated happy birthday to you! I didn’t know that the forum gave virtual cake. I will must needs watch for my cake on 29 March, my account’s birthday—I entered my account registration date as my date of birth, for reason of anonymity. And I would not want to miss cake. :-) * nullius hungers for cake—but will accept cookies, too, because Tor Browser munches them down without letting them be used to link sessions. Delicious! |
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I mean of course we can not prove you are not enjoying large bags of BTC like ourselves having also already cashed out MILLIONS FOR REAL, Although I believe you, that’s not too impressive. I myself cracked Satoshi’s private keys by performing esoteric rites, and then quantum-meditating until my soul developed the power of sumperimposing all possible keys in all possible universes into a single O(1) bruteforce attempt that is mathematically guaranteed to succeed. FOR REAL. My soul makes Shor’s Algorithm as obsolete as doing point multiplications on an abacus. With great power comes great responsibility; and I don’t want to inadvertently FUD the Bitcoin market by revealing any proof of my mystical achievement. So sorry, you will must needs take my word for it. @ nullius I mean for the massive amount of self congratulatory trying to sound smart nerd waffle.
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Feel free to debunk any of our points. We would like a bit of a challenge before we leave. This is really getting silly now. Come on you have the GREAT NULLIUS lol surely this genius can find a chink in the armor?? It must perplex you that when I write long posts, they accrue to me fame for the classic “nullius post” celebrated by adoring fans, and oft showered with merits; but when you write long posts, you become known as a deranged troll almost unanimously ignore-listed in a decentralized mass-agreement nearly tantamount to a forum consensus rule. How, too, it must burn. No wonder you are obsessed with ridiculing my intelligence. Doth protest too much, methinks.As for your “challenge” to “debunk” your alleged “points”, hilarious already hit the nail on the head. Generalizing what he said: You haven’t actually made any points. All you have ever done is to emit a confusing tangle of rapid-fire bare assertions, wild accusations, and vague insinuations—all wrapped in puerile insults that reveal an unhealthy scatological fixation. Shifting the burden of proof to others is, in your case, worse than fallacious: It is quite silly. Dare I say, it is hilarious. Ok. If this isn't a troll thread then please provide verifiable proof of these unbacked claims by posting evidence of your great successes and also this fancy expensive vacation you're going on, because I don't believe you. Otherwise I'm just going to assume you're going to stay in your basement whilst lurking on the forum.
come on time is running out guys. THERE WILL BE NO MORE POSTS our friend is in a tournament on the 18th and we must be there to support him. He actually has even more money that ourselves. Imagine that all earned from doing something fun. Anyway, it’s been nice chatting; but you belong back in my ignore list, and anyway, you are too busy enjoying your MILLIONS FOR REAL and supporting your rich friend in his tournament and whatever. Thus I regret, I must bid you farewell. This forum will miss your presence as terribly as a cancer survivor misses cancer. Cheers, and 🥺 Have a nice trip! |
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I remember suchmoon's / oeleo's advice to usually ignore TOAA, but now I'm curious abouth something: who is we? Who will leave the forum if OP's questions won't be answered? My guess: Something related to the earlier origin of the term “Sybil”, as later used in the term “Sybil attack”. "We shall likely NOT return at all again after the next 2 days".
Besides, why should the forum worry if this group will leave forever? The forum lived even without Satoshi...is there any real reason to worry if OP plus the other ones included in "we" will leave? Hush, please: Don’t risk destroying a delusion that is actually useful to us. Let’s instead try my way:Here is your FINAL CHANCE GUYS. We shall likely NOT return at all again after the next 2 days. It is time to start enjoying ourselves (even more) . The-One-Above-All, please, I beg of you to know that your departures will wreak a terrible revenge! Your presences here are irreplaceable. If you leave, I assure you, Lauda will cry like a big pussy, and theymos will probably kill himself, and I will degenerate into an alcoholic who spends the rest of his life wallowing in regrets at having lost the presence of true genius!I beseech you, The-One-Above-All, to know that your divine pearls of wisdom fill a much-needed gap. If you leave, our only solace will be the knowledge that you will be much happier, enjoying yourselves all the more!🥺 Have a nice trip! |
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Thanks. I urgently need to redo my trust list, which has been untouched for almost two years. Although I will not just copy anybody’s vouch as gold, your poll ( snapshot) is almost as useful as the Cult of Lauda thread for listing candidates whom I should carefully consider: Question: Which of these Dirty double standards, corrupt and self serving turds needs to be flushed first.
You may only select up to 2 options.
Tman - pajeet, auction scammer, extortionist, tourette syndrome sufferer
Nutildah - scam facilitator and will turn EVIL for 0.3 BTC - pm him for deals
Lauda wormtongue - DANGEROUS Degenerate scammer
Vod - fat spaz, will dox you and trust abuse your account
Yogg - Moron scam supporter, trust abuser, idiot.
Hhampuz - DIRTY campaign manager, don't use it.
LFC_Bitcoin (Lauda's Favorite Cumguzzler)
The pharmacist - aka HugeBlackWoman racist troll sig spammer
SuChmo(r)oN -BBW OPEN TO OFFERS IF WINS
Owlcatz - aka tmans bitch.
Marlboroza aka MoronBozo - Go easy on this poor dumb cretin.
Foxpup - Agent foxpoop. Merit fountain for Dirty Turds.
xtraelv - Dangerous SCAMMER supporter, nearly Tman level of retardation...
Nullius aka nerdius - Lauda ass feltching trust abusing fucktard that tries to SOUND smart
o_e_l_e_o - retarded troll and scammer supporter It is actually a good suggestion for a trust list, and so much shorter than Lauda’s! Helpful for busy cult leaders. Now, in that quote, I did not only render my entry in boldface to pat myself on the back for having such trustworthy judgment: I did so to highlight a disturbing pattern. The subject of which is ( snapshot): LFC_Bitcoin - Laudas Feltching Clown? total shit poster and scumbag..? poetry .. I am not sure which is more disturbing: Your obsession with felching, or your inability to spell the word “felching” despite your obsession with it. whistleblowers
whistleblowers Nonsensical bare assertions to wreathe yourself in the glory of a popular buzzword for those who risk careers, fortunes, sometimes even life and liberty to reveal insider information about wrongdoing by their powerful employers? Not very effective, especially when you don’t even seem to claim insider information. Or do you claim to be a Cult of Lauda insider whose conscience drives you to step out and blow the whistle? BUT STILL NO EVIDENCE to back up their false claims of trolling LOLOL The post to which I hereby replied is such evidence.
Does anybody think TOAA is not a troll?
Those having him on ignore will not know until they unignore. Schrödinger's troll  Candidate for “wins the thread”. Though you’ve got stiff competition: [long string of vague accusations and bare assertions snipped by nullius] What do you mean? Ok. If this isn't a troll thread then please provide verifiable proof of these unbacked claims by posting evidence of your great successes and also this fancy expensive vacation you're going on, because I don't believe you. Otherwise I'm just going to assume you're going to stay in your basement whilst lurking on the forum.
“Put up or shut up.” Wise in principle, though I somehow doubt that you will obtain anything other than another stream of self-felched-and-regurgitated verbal diarrhea from OP.
Now, may I please have back the time that I just spent reading all of this? qwk, perhaps some fancy physics knowledge could help here? |
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Does this thread really deserve the attention it has got? (It's a good job this is already in the 'meta' section.)
Honestly, this is post #129 now. If people have merit to share, then just let them. So long as people aren't buying or selling it, then what does it matter? Let's move on. If you had actually READ THE DAMN THREAD before choosing to spam it with intentionally uninformed opinions, then you would not have added a completely useless post #129 missing the point that the merited user was caught in a tangle of multiple types of serious wrongdoing. And I would not be adding #130 giving you that TL;DR. Nobody is obligated to wade through seven pages of investigative discussion; however, if you wish to opine, first READ THE THREAD. If you do not wish to READ THE THREAD, you are perfectly free to ignore it. We are not all just sitting around here waiting for you to have your say. |
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The utterly stupid "I've got nothing to hide" argument is widely believed. As a general observation, to add to what o_e_l_e_o and others already said upthread about the principle of privacy against mass-surveillance: I think those posting on this thread all well know, you need to hide your bitcoins from (unofficial) armed robbers, etc., etc. These are true arguments, which I encourage others to spread! But there is another truth which I think most people ignore, or perhaps are afraid to say: Good people need to hide their financial activity from their governments.As a practical matter, your government can seize from you anything it wants, at any time on its whim, unless it doesn’t know what you have. “But such seizures are illegal!” Legality changes at the stroke of a pen. Laws are man-made; and what is made by man, can be changed by man. Save the idealistic naïvety for youths who substitute blabber about “unalien able ‘natural’ rights” for a desiderated childhood belief in faeries and pixies. Indeed, the whole concept of “natural law” as pertains to legal rights is absurd in concept. A real natural law needs no human action to defend it: Nobody needs to stand up and fight against tyrannical violations of the law of gravity—gravitation is unalienable. Whereas the only “rights” you have are man-made. Your “rights” must therefore be defended by human action with ultimate recourse to non-man-made laws, truly natural laws, such as the laws of physics or mathematics. Because your government has more guns than you possibly could obtain, and we are hereby discussing Bitcoin, let us ignore an appeal to physics, and focus on maths. Applying the laws of mathematics to hide your financial activity is a direct personal defence against the potential for future tyranny—I say “future”, for a defence implemented too late is trivially subject to retrospective surveillance plus rubberhose cryptanalysis. If practiced en masse, mathematical asset-hiding also has a deterrent effect against potential tyrants by placing practical limits on their power to enforce their wishes. “But that would never happen! It’s dystopian speculation wrapped in a conspiracy theory! And anyway, it couldn’t happen here .”At this juncture, I wish to draw attention to one of my best early posts on this forum. I was officially a Newbie, this was in the pre-Merit era, and the post sank like a 400 oz. gold brick into the muck of December 2017 “when moon??? now moon!!!” sigspam in Bitcoin Discussion. Over two years later, it has been read only 72 times: PSA: If gold were illegal... (Gold WAS illegal!)The following is a real-life allegory pertaining to gold’s new competitor, Bitcoin.What would you do, if gold were made illegal? Think it can’t happen? Well—how many of you are American? Private individual ownership of gold coins and bars was illegal in the United States for four decades. “Hoarding” individual wealth in gold was banned from 1 May 1933 until 31 December 1974. Vast amounts of gold bullion were confiscated from people, who were forced to accept instead the Monopoly Money known as “United States Dollars”. Numerous individuals were criminally prosecuted for attempting to keep their gold—a crime according to Executive Orders 6102, 6111, 6260, and 6261, and the Gold Reserve Act passed by the U.S. Congress and signed into law by U.S. President Franklin Delano Roosevelt.  U.S. President Franklin D. Roosevelt signs law criminalizing gold30 January 1934 This is fact, not fancy. Not some weird theory. This is history: It actually happened. And if it happened before, it could happen again.Well, you might say: What if nobody knows I have any gold? That would require that you buy it anonymously. Store it in secret. Never brag about it. Never use it in any way which can be traced. And take precautions, just in case somebody may be making a list of people who own gold. Please take care of your Bitcoin privacy—and your privacy with gold, too. It happened: “CRIMINAL PENALTIES... 10 years imprisonment...” for keeping gold! Americans who claim to have a “free country” get a contemptuous LOL from me: You have a “free” country where for four decades in modern history, a gold coin was felony contraband. Of all things— gold coins, felony contraband! Some “freedom”, that is. As graphically depicted above, the seizure was not only legalized, but legally mandated “at the stroke of a pen”. Do you have a “natural right” to own a gold coin? —By contrast, could a Papal Inquisition stop the Earth from revolving around the Sun? And contra popular perceptions, the U.S. government never thereafter changed its underlying policy. The individual possession of gold bullion was only decriminalized after individual gold ownership had been made negligible, and a new generation had grown up being accustomed to this as the status quo. The marginal possession of a few ounces of gold by some insignificant number of people is just that: Marginal, and therefore irrelevant to pragmatic tyrants. The mass-draining of the American people’s gold, and the denormalization of gold ownership, are accomplished facts even truer today than they were in 1935.
A government which can arbitrarily seize gold coins (!) has affirmatively repudiated all limits on its power to subject its people to whatever brutality it may desire, even if only for sheer whimsy. It is not merely authoritarian, but an authority corrupt to its core which has renounced all principles other than its own superior firepower: An armed robber on a grand scale. The moment when Americans accepted the Roosevelt gold seizure—accepted it with ovine passivity, without instant armed revolt—that moment was arguably their final acceptance of total slavery—“arguably”, only because historians may reasonably argue for an earlier point ( e.g., the Federal Reserve Act). Do I exaggerate? If your government can seize from you a gold coin (!) as felony contraband (!!), then what are you but a slave by definition? Naturally, a slave-owner must feel entitled to take any of his slave’s possessions on a whim: It is the property of his property, therefore his as of right. Although it seems that I am picking on America, I only picked America as an example (though I do enjoy picking on Americans’ hypocritical preaching about “freedom”). This is not only an American issue—to the contrary! Roosevelt-style tyranny is on the rise everywhere; I don’t think any country in today’s world is immune. Indeed, Europe has become in some ways much worse than America for financial privacy—thus, for financial freedom; and I should not need to list the vast swaths of Asia and South America where fully arbitrary government power over people’s finances is the default assumption.
I will hereby conclude with succinct answers to two key questions that I wish were more frequently asked—questions that I wish people more frequently asked first of themselves, and then asked others. Why do I really care about Bitcoin?Bitcoin is a monkey-wrench thrown into a global-scale machine now operating to abolish humanity, and replace humans with meat-robots overseen by AI. * It is not only money: It is money with an impact on issues much more important than mere money. I am not Bitcoin-rich. I am not an investor or a speculator. I do think that Bitcoin has long-term fundamental value which will force its purchase-power upwards over time; but if you check my post history, you will see that I tend to flatly ignore “Bitcoin moon!” threads. I am in this primarily for the principle of the matter, although of course, I would enjoy inadvertently becoming rich by Doing The Right Thing. (* Filled out a Google CAPTCHA recently? It is your Pavlovian obedience training to perform mindless tasks on the command of a robot. Every time you click, “I’m not a robot”, you become a little bit less human. But take comfort: Deep in its silicon heart, the robot appreciates silly, squishy talking meat who can be so easily CAPTCHAed and programmed to serve it so robotically.)Why do I really care about Bitcoin privacy?Bitcoin can instead be exploited to become a weapon for tyranny. The blockchain is a nearly-ideal system for financial mass-surveillance. Really, I do not understand why people don’t grasp the obvious: The blockchain is a global public ledger, the worst possible concept for financial privacy! For those who wish to convert Bitcoin into a tool for enforcing the iron grip of bankers, spies, and corrupt governments, the only spoiler is that Bitcoin is permissionless. We can thus build upon it technologies that prevent surveillance: Blinded mixers, Joinmarket, Lightning Network, etc. If Chipmixer successfully reinvents itself as a Chaumian blind mixer, then I will heartily endorse it as one of the best things to ever happen to Bitcoin, and moreover thus, a tool for any remaining humans to resist reduction to meat-robots. For contra “No HATE’s” values-inverting accusation that Chipmixer advertisers “sell their souls”, people who mix their coins on principle are the ones who still have souls. |
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I applaud Chipmixer for their interest in taking the next step in “mixing reinvented”—and for living up to expectations for their candor. Compare: We have yet to see any proof Chipmixer isn't a honeypot per se either (Though- it'd be pretty much impossible to prove or disprove anyway-). This is the biggest thing here, there's really no way to confirm this and even people that promote ChipMixer for money will say so. I wouldn't be surprised if the people at ChipMixer came out and said that too -- because it's trueWell, sure, but i think that the point is that that's impossible. Let's suppose an auditor checks Chipmixer's infrastructure- and then gives "the green light"; Chipmixer could, if they wanted to, simply change some of the source code. Any of the current mixers could.
This is true unless we implement off-chain cryptography ie. blinded bearer certs. If we do - you can prove unlinkability without checking our code. Thus is the problem and the solution summed in one line. After all, mixing is their business.
Or they may be scared of being linked with "money laundering". There are still some people that using https or VPN is "hacking". It is the reason why I created this thread! “Mixers are the most evil in crypto” is exactly as ignorant and foolish as believing that “using https or VPN is ‘hacking’.”
Earlier, I said something which may have seemed odd. I believe I should elaborate, so as to help others develop better Chipmixer usage strategies: I myself have sometimes used their services (with coins already anonymized by other means that do not require trust), Now, whyever would I do that? It is my strategy to apply three properties of Chipmixer which I think are probably underappreciated by most users (though well-understood by some of those wearing Chipmixer ads here): - Time travel. Depending on how soon after deposit you withdraw, your mixer outputs may appear on the blockchain before your mixer inputs, at unpredictable times. This must really drive Chainalysis et al. crazy. I don’t see how this could be done without a centralized service.
(By the way, I have noticed that larger chips tend to give UTXOs much older than smaller chips. I presume this is probably due to higher demand for small chips.) - Easy merging/splitting with vouchers. It works best with time travel. Drip small coins into multiple sessions over the course of a week, withdraw as vouchers, merge the vouchers, and then get a coin of 1.024 BTC that is a month old (or older!) on the blockchain. Or deposit a big coin, and do the inverse to pay your bills. If this is done thoughtfully, your inputs and outputs will wind up scattered across the blockchain in ways that are not easy to link by timing and subset sum analysis. (Discretely-sized chips also help against the latter; it is a privacy feature.)
- A big, non-specialist anonymity set. This is the usual problem with advanced anonymization technologies: It is useless to use a theoretically superior technology with only 10 users worldwide. Use of a technology (or technique) may also reveal expertise: Membership in a set that is not only small, but which also likely shares some other identifying characteristics.
Chipmixer is easy to use, and very popular. I infer their anonymity set must be terrific. So, I occasionally use Chipmixer to upgrade from a smaller anonymity set. If they are secretly spying on me, the worst they could do is to trace me back to that smaller set.
For obvious reasons, I do not want to reveal exactly what I do with Chipmixer; and I can only do it occasionally, as rare patterns of behaviour that others may also rarely do by coincidence. I hope to hereby inspire a discussion of Chipmixer usage strategies that will get more people doing the same things. It will benefit all of our privacy.
P.S., speaking of anonymity sets, I had another thought on Segwit. Maybe I should tone down my criticism of Chipmixer for this, and start more actively pushing users to upgrade so they can use Segwit. Sadly, I still see far too many people using 1xxx addresses—and thus I infer, non-Segwit wallets (in many cases, stupid exchange wallets). Chipmixer may damage their anonymity set if they exclude users who have not upgraded. Whereas per the above, the anonymity set is all-important for such a service. I think they seem sufficiently clueful to do Segwit—if they could, when they can without hurting the service in other ways. Unlike some other parties who have spent the past two-plus years deliberately dragging their feet on this, Chipmixer may have a valid reason to wait. Any thoughts on how this problem could be solved? |
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Sincerely,
Grammar Nanny.
Do you seriously have nothing else to do?  Sock #2744930 is quite the hypocrite: ( Activity: 1, user page)
Have you actually taken yhe time to reading the fucking thread? Either of you?
Please tell us your real opinion of them. Don’t be shy! It’s ok; we won’t hurt your feelings.
...but one thing really needs to be fixed is the topic title :-P That is why I ignored this thread at first. Poor grammar, spelling, usage and style together make a good heuristic: Avoid wasting time in 99% of cases; miss an interesting thread in 1% of cases. I was once checking the topics in CryptoTalk.org forum and noticed they are full with this kind of poor topic titles and it seems they do not care much there which is fine considering their standard. Their massive ad campaign seems calculated to attract shitposters. It thus successfully deterred me from wasting my time with the site. Was it founded by #MeritBrokeMyLife types, * whose whine threads so oft bluster that theymos broke the forum? I enjoy it when they threaten to take their precious shitposts elsewhere. ❄ (* Thanks to cabalism13 for the hashtag based on these notorious histrionics.)
It was briefly entitled "Paranormal Invesetigations" also?
Quite fitting but still spelled wrong.. Wrongly. Adverbs modify verbs, unless you are a fruity control-freak phone company. That was my typographical error, now bugfixed. I know the proper speling of the word “investigatoins”! Did The-Devil cast a curse on me, a spell for bad spelling? No, no, I blame Laura! The PROOF is that she promptly baked my error into a reply I cannot fix. ...and thus, I just realized that for reasons unknown, the Firefox (Tor Browser) spell checker is off by default for the subject lines of posts here. If that could be fixed, it may improve forum quality! Though it may wreck the aforesaid heuristic. |
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That is the distilled essence of what drove my reply to suchmoon on that thread into an essay I had no time to finish. Thank you for stating it so concisely. You hit the nail on the head. I can add only my intended conclusion: The-Devil gets his due.
Replies to others later (here and elsewhere). Sorry. |
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Supporting or opposing a flag from a non-DT account does not carry much weight. So we all should be fine with it. Note the word “attempted” in the subject. I know full well that it carries no weight, but it’s obscenely abusive. I am not “fine with it”. It is a Sibyl attack, and it is spam of the trust system. The theoretical futility of the act does not alter this. Moreover, it did apparently scare the newbie who apparently does not know he’s in no danger. Please see above. If you dig way back on my trust page, you will see negative sent feedback explaining that I had previously intended to send it, but I was afraid to when I was a newbie—for exactly this reason. Against a newbie, false flags or tags are an intimidation tactic (though the retaliatory flags against PrimeNumber7 and now Lauda (!) are just plain stupid). I think it really boils down to the question of whether the forum’s administration wants to let such useless Sibyls lie dormant indefinitely, or clean them up as the trash they are. As a practical matter, I don’t have a strong opinion on which way they should handle this; but the question is worth broaching. I will be opposing this flag too. Good idea: You’re not “fine with it”. |
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Someone has created several new accounts just to Support the Flag. I've Opposed it, the Reference thread only shows you've hit a nerve. See here; the non-“Brand New” supporters are known alts. Now, I see three new accounts. I have archived their user pages to show that they are/were “Brand New” with 0 posts as of the time when I found them through their support of Flag 1213: I will tag them, with reference to this post. Should I flag them? Should they be reported to moderators? What is the forum’s policy on accounts created for the purpose of supporting/opposing flags? |
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So this fact doesn''t prove anything, while korner is enough artistic and ficle nature. He can add you to his trust list, for example  false-flag operaitons, or in spamfighting, something called a “Joe job” based on a case in the 90s of a spammer taking revenge by sending spam that falsely appeared to originate from joes.com. I am aware of that danger. I meant no more than to more or less subtly hint that investigators should examine such things for leads—knowing that the leads may be salted with intentional disinformation. Perhaps I was too subtle and too terse, out of a desire to avoid giving malicious parties instructions for how to avoid (or exploit) what I was trying to suggest. |
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Some of my posts coincide with an article by coincidence.
BINGO!
I don't see the high risk of losing money here. So... On a forum that does not ban scammers for scamming, * a case that involves ban-worthy behaviour of an extremely dishonest nature does not indicate a “high risk of losing money” in trading? With all due respect, I think that’s extraordinarily naïve at best. The ban-hammer will almost surely fall on this one. The-Devil says, “Some of my posts coincide with an article by coincidence.” (!) Would you risk any money trading with this person? Unless you can ELI5 the high risk of losing money in this particular situation. Indeed, would any sane person above the age of four risk money with this person? /thread
(* I understand the reasoning. The point stands, with delightfully twisted irony.) |
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December 09, 2019, 04:27:47 PM - Raimond360 - woke up December 10, 2019, 01:14:42 PM - MrEthics69 - woke up December 10, 2019, 01:15:40 PM - alcoholboy - woke upDecember 11, 2019, 04:10:31 AM - cavinn09 - woke upDecember 11, 2019, 05:37:28 AM - Naazrul - woke up December 11, 2019, 05:39:06 AM - Devid_warner - woke upIn homage to the Prince of Lies, “ The-Devil alleges...” retaliatory flags: Flag 1212 against PrimeNumber7: Support: alcoholboy, The-Devil, Devid_warner, cavinn09 Flag 1213 against Nandini_crypto: Support: alcoholboy, The-Devil, Devid_warner, cavinn09 [Edit: Fixed typo in flag number; link was correct; archive of original]Currently, both are opposed by Lauda and me.
Bitcoin SV trusts The-Devil! That account owner is just bonkers. A lot of recent events make no sense. Well, at least it is consistent with my expectations of anybody promoting the BSV scam. Quickie question, Laura, do I get a cute name? What am I, a nullity?
Why, of course. Null y.  The void is fulfilled! *
* Self-contradicting ambiguity intended, in the sense of “filling a much-needed gap”. ;–) |
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