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1601  Other / Off-topic / Re: When will the USA go to WAR? on: May 02, 2014, 06:36:00 AM
which country is the next USA target ?
syria? russia? iran?
war is profitable for few arms industry, but kill many innocent people
UN fail to prevent war, because they are US sockpuppet, lol

Hard to say for sure. The fascist pigs in DC probably draw cards or something to decide who to "liberate" next. Smart money is on a country that lacks a central bank, doesn't have an advanced nuclear weapons program, and has lots of brown people in it. Bonus points if a particular nation state is trying to sell oil for something other than US dollars.
1602  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Armed Feds Prepare For Showdown With Nevada Cattle Rancher on: May 02, 2014, 06:16:17 AM
Obama and Boehner are both pretty far to the right as are the majority of at least the leadership of both of our main political parties.

Thanks for the laugh man! You make it all sound like a fun sporting event. Cheesy

Good thing the TWO parties seem to agree on all the important stuff eh? Like which countries to kill people in next, which liberties will be stolen from Amerikans and in which order, how many trillions a year we'll spend over and above what we take in, etc. Sheesh if it weren't for that pesky gay rights thing you'd almost think it was just one big group of National Socialist Worker Party members running the whole country. Thanks for setting me straight buddy.   
1603  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Armed Feds Prepare For Showdown With Nevada Cattle Rancher on: May 02, 2014, 05:37:27 AM
<blah blah>to us on the left

THAT'S your problem with Bundy & the militia boys?!? You actually believe there's a politicial left and right in the US?!?  ...

Of course.  There is a 'left' and a 'right' in pretty much all political systems and social groupings.  It's an expression of variation in the thought patterns and experiences that individuals had during development.

lol thanks for the laugh.

So barry and boehner must REALLY HATE each other then right? I mean, of course there's no reason to let these things mess up their golf outings together, but afterward I'm sure they're really mean to each other.

k, b4 I put you on ignore and waste no further time with you. Something's been bothering me and I thought perhaps you could help. Since I was a child I've heard these stories about some kinda fairy that steals pulled teeth from kids at night and leaves quarters behind. In your obviously learned opinion...is there anything to that?
1604  Other / Off-topic / Re: When will the USA go to WAR? on: May 02, 2014, 05:29:00 AM
The US is almost permanently in a state of war with somebody or the other

FTFY

Defense contractors give good bribe.
1605  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Armed Feds Prepare For Showdown With Nevada Cattle Rancher on: May 02, 2014, 05:02:55 AM
<blah blah>to us on the left

THAT'S your problem with Bundy & the militia boys?!? You actually believe there's a politicial left and right in the US?!? Let me guess Liberals vs Conservatives is it? Socialists vs Fascists?

Who was it in the last few dictator (s)elections that represented this "conservative" perspective? Bushy Jr? McCain? Romney? ROFLMAO
1606  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ★█ Zeitcoin Movement █★ [ZEIT] POW/POS ★MULTIPOOL★ Join Our Thriving Community! on: May 02, 2014, 04:45:00 AM
Nope. Just open your wallet & unlock it for minting(if it's encrypted), for a few hours every couple weeks.
1607  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: HashFast announces specs for new ASIC: 400GH/s on: May 02, 2014, 02:29:19 AM
They're bummed they can't ship orders. awww...sad panda face.

I don't recall them being bummed last year when the products they weren't shipping would have had an actual chance of making a positive ROI. I guess back then they were bummed they couldn't rope in more suckers to steal from.
1608  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: My credit card is frozen--good opportunity on: May 02, 2014, 01:48:26 AM
Most cards you must let them know that your traveling to another place or country, this happen to me manytimes, so pick up the phone and call.

No thanks, I'll use cash or bitcoins.
1609  Other / Off-topic / Re: I'm tired of the United States on: May 02, 2014, 01:37:55 AM
Despite hating US, I actually just look on the output of what it offers compared to other places in the world.

The USD is the world reserve currency(for now). The US's principle export is inflation. The US has done well since ending bretton woods by looting the rest of the world...that time is ending. Sure the US HAD a manufacturing base that was second to none, but no longer. That manufacturing base has been gutted by greedy corporations and their bought and paid for politicians. One need look no further than the once great, but now bankrupt, city of Detroit, which now looks like a bombed out city in Germany during WWII. America has been living high on the hog off the labor of the rest of the world for decades, but a rude awakening is coming.
1610  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][PHS][PoS] PhilosopherStone | PoS | No Premine | stuff | 1.5.1 on: May 02, 2014, 12:37:33 AM
Welcome to ignore. PHS' coindev has worked his ass off to make this one of the best PoS coins available.
1611  Other / Off-topic / Re: I'm tired of the United States on: May 02, 2014, 12:26:35 AM
Okay, many of us hate the countries we live in. I hate the U.S.

But there's far worse countries out there, way worse than America. Yeah, the Government is stupid beyond repair, but would you rather be in a Communist Gov or a Kratocracy?

They're NOT stupid. They want you to believe they're stupid. Barry and his numerous speech writers and fact checkers don't "accidentally" forget words when he (mis)quotes the Gettysburg address on international television. US politicians aren't "confused" when they talk about preserving their "democracy". They KNOW the US is not now, nor has it ever been a democracy. They're actors, playing their roles. Keeping the masses bickering with each other and hiding the fact that the US has become a decaying fascist shithole...an oligarchy.
1612  Other / Off-topic / Re: I'm tired of the United States on: May 02, 2014, 12:15:43 AM
The bankers clearly have a plan to steal wealth it is so obvious.  That is what all big scandals have been about that come to my mind.

Absolutely. US bank account agreements have been quietly changed over the years, just as "safe" deposit box agreements have. Either can be seized at any time. Sadly, most still believe their wealth is safe in banks.
1613  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ★█ Zeitcoin Movement █★ [ZEIT] POW/POS ★MULTIPOOL★ Join Our Thriving Community! on: May 01, 2014, 11:59:58 PM
Something weird happened with my zeit wallet. I had 900k coins and then it reduced to 440k as available and the rest as stake? Very odd - no transactions out but I mined 800k during initial launch?

That's not odd, it's normal PoS minting behavior. If it staked around minimum maturity(20 days) 460,000 Zeitcoins should have minted approximately 460k*1.371% or 6306 additional Zeitcoins.
1614  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Armed Feds Prepare For Showdown With Nevada Cattle Rancher on: May 01, 2014, 10:40:35 PM
No, I take my gun ownership rights under the 2nd amendment very seriously.

No doubt. It seems to be other people's 2nd amendment rights that you find disposable. Ever consider public office? You seem abundantly qualified. You seem to have the ability to view the slaughter of your own countrymen as dispassionately as some might view a train schedule. While some might view narcissism as a handicap, I believe you should embrace it and seek a career in politics. 
1615  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Armed Feds Prepare For Showdown With Nevada Cattle Rancher on: May 01, 2014, 10:17:24 PM

This does not have much to do with the 2nd in my mind.  The guns are a tool that the militias were misusing, but it could have been anything from a pitchfork to a pipe-bomb to their own kids as human shields.

As far as I'm concerned, the militia clowns are actively supporting an ongoing crime.  You don't have to 'fear' a kid in order to spank his ass,  ...

Misusing how? Were the federal forces misusing their guns? What's the difference?

What crime? Are they not authorized to open carry? You mean the "crime" of the rancher not paying the fees the BLM says he owes? What does that have to do with the militia guys?
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You'd have to be in a pretty deep state of denial to believe that brandishing a weapon and pointing it at someone was not intimidation.  And the intimidation was to protect Cliven Bundy who is in trouble because has stolen resources from the rightful owner (that would be me as a tax paying citizen of the U.S.) and is evading justice for his actions.  It is pretty unusual to have the right to intimidate someone with a visible firearm as well it should be.  Doing so in the commission of a crime is a big deal.

Actually, it looks a bit to me as though the Feds were setting up the metro cops to be mowed down, and the metro cops sensed this and resent it.  I don't see very many 'good guys' in this whole thing, but not especially due to the fact that the Feds were armed in attempting to perform the completely legitimate activity that they were involved in (rounding up trespassing cattle and selling them to pay bills owed.)  It seems perfectly legitimate and common sense for them to be armed to me.

At the end of the day, I would say that anyone who lent any sort of support to Bundy is both demonstrably irresponsible and guilty of at the very least assisting in a crime.  If they were armed in doing so, they are in that much more trouble.  Certainly anyone there should be stripped of any right to touch a gun from here forward, and if they are caught doing so they should be locked up for the protection of U.S. citizens.

You are a perfect drone. Doubtless the federal government would love to have many more just like you.
1616  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Armed Feds Prepare For Showdown With Nevada Cattle Rancher on: May 01, 2014, 09:25:37 PM

Why would men and women choosing to exercise their 2nd Amendment rights make you so uncomfortable? It seems pretty clear the militia guys were welcome there. What's the problem? Please tell me you're not one of those people that think just seeing a legal weapon in plain view is cause to tattle? Open carry IS still legal in most of the US. Chicago and DC do not count as they've clearly been ceded to communist authority. It always seems strange to me when people that claim they support the 2nd Amendment get all weak in the knees when people actually exercise that right.

I have no problem with state executives having the authority to direct their state's guard to do their bidding, provided those guardsman that respond remember the oaths they've taken, but un-elected federal alphabet agency heads should have no such authority.

This does not have much to do with the 2nd in my mind.  The guns are a tool that the militias were misusing, but it could have been anything from a pitchfork to a pipe-bomb to their own kids as human shields.

As far as I'm concerned, the militia clowns are actively supporting an ongoing crime.  You don't have to 'fear' a kid in order to spank his ass, and in fact it's hardly ever the case.  When the kid does something wrong it's appropriate (in my opinion) to give him a spanking.  Usually it's not something that the kid or the parent wants but at the end of the day, the kid is better off for it (I know I am.)  The parent understands this because they have greater wisdom and world view.

The American public to the militia clowns is fairly analogous to a parent/child relationship.  And if deadbeats and brats get away with doing bad, it will spawn more deadbeats and brats so the appropriate action is to put a stop to it as early as practical.  Bundy is a good example.  He got away with pulling his shit for two decades and here we are today with a much more significant problem than we would have if we'd thrown his ass in jail for a few days back in the early 90's.

Misusing how? Were the federal forces misusing their guns? What's the difference?

What crime? Are they not authorized to open carry? You mean the "crime" of the rancher not paying the fees the BLM says he owes? What does that have to do with the militia guys?

Actually never mind, your perspectives are so bizarre to me I don't think there's any chance I'll comprehend your twisted logic and strange value system. "Everybody please remain calm while the federal government exterminates thousands of it's own people as well as foreign nationals in an Amerikan city. Definitely definitely don't take this opportunity to exercise your Constitutionally protected rights...what few remain. Just twiddle your thumbs and watch reality teevee."
1617  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Armed Feds Prepare For Showdown With Nevada Cattle Rancher on: May 01, 2014, 07:29:28 PM

Prior to the Bundy incident, I would have been basically in support of the effort to have various federal agencies (IRS, BLM, etc) shed their rapidly developing militarized enforcement wings.  The reason for this is the same reason I don't want to have the NSA doing bulk surveillance.  There are inherent risks which very likely will be realized at some point.  When an organization (or a person) has some capability there is a natural need to used it from time to time even in cases where it is uncalled for.  Worse than that, though, it really is a framework that Snowden describes as 'turnkey tyrrany.'  It provides an option for solving certain big problems in a certain way, and it is a place that I don't want to go.  At the very least, it is an inefficient use of resources.

Alas, the Bundy affair has made it clear that there really is a need to have a militarized force capable of non-trivial military operations.  I'm even less inclined to use the actual military for such operations than I would be to have various federal and state agencies have the capability.

The most rational approach seems to be to have one unified, centralized, and militarized unit, and to have a great deal of visibility into all aspects of their operation.

One aspect of such a structure is that there would be mobility issues.  That is a feature and not a bug as I see it.  Any actions they might take should be very deliberate.

Another aspect of such a structure is that they would not have some of the tactical advantages of surprise and covertness.  That is also a feature and not a bug.  The entire public should have visibility into every aspect of their operations.  Yes, it makes the unit less effective tactically, but it's a price worth paying to achieve very critical public support.

If I were the pres, I would say something like this:

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We have an extra-ordinary and threatening situation at Bundy's ranch.  For this reason it is as of this time considered a special zone where certain normal rights are suspended.

Everyone who is currently within this special zone is ordered to leave immediately.  Those leaving will be evaluated to determine if they have participated in activities which are in violation of any specific laws.  Failure to comply with this order is a violation of blah, blah, blah, and the penalties will include blah, blah, blah.

On May 2nd at 0200, we will commence operations to secure the entire area.  These operations will be concluded by 0600 hours of the same day.  Survivors will be subject to punitive measures as described above.

All events will be documented with audio and video, and all of the documentation will be provided to the media.

Observers from a variety of adversarial organizations will be invited to take part of this operation to facilitate documentation and provide oversight.




Why would men and women choosing to exercise their 2nd Amendment rights make you so uncomfortable? It seems pretty clear the militia guys were welcome there. What's the problem? Please tell me you're not one of those people that think just seeing a legal weapon in plain view is cause to tattle? Open carry IS still legal in most of the US. Chicago and DC do not count as they've clearly been ceded to communist authority. It always seems strange to me when people that claim they support the 2nd Amendment get all weak in the knees when people actually exercise that right.

I have no problem with state executives having the authority to direct their state's guard to do their bidding, provided those guardsman that respond remember the oaths they've taken, but un-elected federal alphabet agency heads should have no such authority.
1618  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][PHS][PoS] PhilosopherStone | PoS | No Premine | stuff | 1.5.1 on: May 01, 2014, 04:29:50 PM
Same. Zero problems with v1.50 and now v1.51. At one point I had 12 blocks staking and all worked properly.
1619  Other / Off-topic / Re: I'm tired of the United States on: May 01, 2014, 04:20:51 PM
People will do something about it when the prospect of being murdered by armed thugs seems like a better deal than their day to day lives (i.e. going to work or whatever).

The sad part is, it doesn't have to get to that point, if people start doing something about it. And it doesn't even have to be much at this point in time...

Like what? Call your congressman? Write a letter? Vote? If these things could effect anything, they'd be banned.

Best thing to do is to withdraw from the system to every extent that's possible. The enslaving debt based financial system requires ever more debt, so if people stop creating more debt(currency) then the financial system will collapse. Stop being good consumers. Stop borrowing and living beyond your means. Stop using electronic credit dollars and use physical dollars. Keep your currency away from banks.
1620  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Armed Feds Prepare For Showdown With Nevada Cattle Rancher on: May 01, 2014, 02:41:41 AM

You can also do a lot of research and still be wrong because of your own internal biases you are not aware of.
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I just read an amusing article on Forbes about 'sovereign citizens'.  The description of their 'research' matches very well what I've seen on this thread and in other venues over the decades.

Now, of course, Forbes is the epitome of propaganda for the general public.  They would like to get me all riled up about the dangerous menace of 'sovereign citizens', but I'm not buying it.  I know how these people think (erratically) and how popular their ideas are going to be in any conceivable social grouping.  That is, not very.  They'll be marginalized immediately.  But I'm not the audience that the Forbes's of our world targets and I've no doubt that their propaganda will be highly effective.

If the 'sovereign citizen' bunch were a little more 'cerebral' maybe they wouldn't stick their heads directly into the trap.  Oh well.

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I do have some concerns about 'sovereign citizens' in that it is logically consistent (in a twisted way) that if someone is 'sovereign' then they can work for some other group (like the Feds) as mercenaries of sorts.  In this way they can enjoy goodies which make them happy (e.g., free ammo) with a clear conscience.

Of course different people have different tastes.  Our friend Annoyneymint, for instance, might enjoy an endless supply of free wives from a pool of the adolescent daughters captured from 'the Communists.

I thought sovereigns were men and women that didn't accept the creepy 14th amendment to the Constitution as valid and reject the notion that they're "persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof".

The legal definition of the word "person" is rather disturbing.

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person n. 1) a human being. 2) a corporation treated as having the rights and obligations of a person. Counties and cities can be treated as a person in the same manner as a corporation. However, corporations, counties and cities cannot have the emotions of humans such as malice, and therefore are not liable for punitive damages. (See: party, corporation)

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