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1621  Economy / Securities / Re: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread [Self-Moderated] on: January 11, 2014, 04:49:17 PM
Kens Linkedin has an endorsement from the sales director of Stilwell Baker Inc... I guess we're reasonably confident these were the first PCB engineers then? I thought they were super reliable?

It makes no sense that Stilwell baker would screw up, they handle projects much more complex than this. However one day when Ken tells the story I am ready for many surprises.
1622  Economy / Securities / Re: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread [Self-Moderated] on: January 11, 2014, 09:28:44 AM
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2. If the contract with eAsic was for Ken to be a guinea pig, he simply lied to his investors by misrepresenting the risks.  There's a guy here who invested his retirement fund into this disaster.  

Haha that guy is probably me. At least I have a few years before retirement to make it back.
1623  Economy / Securities / Re: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread [Self-Moderated] on: January 10, 2014, 06:04:35 PM
BTW - Anybody who invested in this and didn't have a reasonable expectation that there was a 50% chance they would lose their money is... a... dumb fuck. I tried to be more civil on that, but... it's the most accurate phraseology I could come up with.

So lets say we all lose all our money - you are equally as much to blame as Ken. Think about it people, greed begets pain.

Thanks mate, I invested with the expectation of about 25% returns. I never really thought myself greedy.

Ken might have had hard issues and he may have had to do certain things, and if he was open and transparent about this I would not be so annoyed at the situation.

We have no idea what happened and what is going on.
1624  Economy / Securities / Re: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread [Self-Moderated] on: January 10, 2014, 05:59:39 PM
freenode irc?  what channel?


Freenode #ActiveMining

Any chance the reCAPTCHA can be made accessible for humans? What a joke!

Use a client program, I access the room all the time and never have reCAPTCHA
1625  Economy / Securities / Re: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread [Self-Moderated] on: January 10, 2014, 05:47:35 PM
The way I (mis) understood the recent announcement was that the RTL thingy applied to the boards themselves and not the chips.  Could it be that the chips are all fine and ready to go but the boards are being redesigned?

From what I have read, the RTL process is before the ASIC being made process, because ASIC's do not need software (that's the point, the software is very minimal to drive the ASIC logic).

So we are still behind the making the first ASIC chip stage. I reckon the prototypes just did not work with the boards and both the boards and chip needed to go back to the drawing board.
1626  Economy / Securities / Re: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread [Self-Moderated] on: January 10, 2014, 10:39:19 AM
Hey ffssixtynine, what does "respining" mean in context of the eASIC chips?

DTS, you talking about this?

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to make sure that when we spin up our chip it will work

If yes, then I'd say it is not a technical term but means "when we ramp up production of our chip..."

Yeah ok that makes a lot of sense.

So Ken is still getting the final ASIC design complete before eASIC starts producing for us.

EDIT: Which could mean we get the next prototype by early February?
1627  Economy / Securities / Re: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread [Self-Moderated] on: January 10, 2014, 10:12:28 AM
If ken said units had been delivered to customers, I think it's fair to say full evidence needs to be provided and a full explanation of what has gone wrong since then. You can't claim delivery and then say something obscure about rtl code (which was Ken's task?) and engineering (pcb). Similarly about the extra hashing.

I'm concerned that things went wrong in October or November and that it was then handled badly. At that point I seems to remember seeing irc logs posted showing a very stressed Ken. I have no reason to think this was anything other than failures internally and/or at outsourcers, but one must manage those failures professionally.

One must certainly not mislead customers or investors over the following months.

Ken, I know you have always meant well but this needs an open and frank explanation, very quickly indeed. Both shareholders and buyers have reason to be angry.

For everyone else, Ken is really poor at communication and a lot of this may be down to that. I always found him much better voice than in any written means. I know two posters here are trying to meet/chat to him.

Hey ffssixtynine, what does "respining" mean in context of the eASIC chips?
1628  Economy / Securities / Re: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread [Self-Moderated] on: January 10, 2014, 09:35:38 AM
do we even have eASIC chips?

Uhm no, we don't. He has been pretty clear about that (the RTL stuff). The situation is actually much, much worse than I thought.

Due to huge gaps in my knowledge I am unsure what some of the terms mean.

RTL is the design before an ASIC gets commissioned correct? So if we have to get another RTL that means the ASIC can't exist at all right?

However Ken has said that we are not respining the chip, so I assumed that mean that the chips sort of exist?

I am confused about how we don't need to respin (whatever that means) but we are still working on RTL.
1629  Economy / Securities / Re: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread [Self-Moderated] on: January 10, 2014, 08:48:02 AM
Ugh. Failing to meet expectations is no evidence of intentional wrongdoing. This is not to say that there is not intentional wrongdoing occurring, just there is no evidence to support an argument in either direction. This absence of information however is the biggest problem I currently see with Active and certainly agree that we should have information be presented much more clearly. Sure, if it is not possible to present such information then explain why. If the explanation fits the realm of plausible occurrence, cool; otherwise we certainly need more fluid conversation with development.

I do not believe Ken has done any wrongdoing, it's possible all the contradictions are because events played out that way. but the silence and darkness is now insufferable.

I just want the truth at this point.
1630  Economy / Securities / Re: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread [Self-Moderated] on: January 10, 2014, 05:02:42 AM
This has got out of hand, Ken you have contradicted yourself concerning the shares going online, legal issues, products shipped.

I suggest that you come clean and write a long post about what exactly has been going on over the past 4 months, please make it very detailed and describe failures in detail without pushing blame on others to save face.

You can no longer be silent, you have admitted we have nothing, no boards, do we even have eASIC chips? I suggest you write a very detailed account of the last 4 months events.

If you don't do this the shareholders are going to go insane and hunt you down, the only way to calm the crowd is the be 100% transparent.

I want to know what the hell is going on, and most of the information you're hiding is not covered by NDA and I know that for fact.

Time to tell the truth for once Ken.

Please before the other shareholders begin legal proceedings. You need to give us something.
1631  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: GHASH.IO IS NEARING 51% – LEAVE THE POOL on: January 09, 2014, 10:44:32 AM
Except it's not a normal pool is it? With most of the hashpower being from Cex.io it's essentially a giant mining farm.

I may be wrong, but I doubt people can just leave or be booted off. Also apparently it's slightly more profitable to mine on GHash.IO for normal miners, if true (I doubt it is) people have incentive not to leave.
1632  Economy / Securities / Re: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread [Self-Moderated] on: January 09, 2014, 10:11:18 AM
I've just seen Ken's post. I've mostly stayed away from this thread due to the ridiculous trolling that was going on and the personal attacks, but I'm shocked by what I just read.

Ken, you and I strongly disagreed on the commercial side, lack of key skills on your management team, and a technical matter, to the point where my position was untenable. However, from what I remember you had apparently hired a really good engineering firm and you were always going to be in a good position as a mining company. The bitcoin price rise worked massively in your favour for both mining and hardware sales.

What happened to leave VMC in the current situation? Even mining with expensive low volume chips should have left you quids in by now. I don't understand why that hasn't happened.

Surely you owe everyone much more of an explanation than you've given. The NDA you have with eASIC doesn't cover absolutely everything you do as a business and shareholders need some proper facts on the problem, the remedy, and the schedule. You have always kept cards close to your chest but this is not the time to do it.

Even in my worst case forecast I had VMC down to have mass chip production and boards ready in Feb, with smaller units from late December or early January, but it sounds like that's far off.

Also, I seem to remember you stating that shipments had started but how can that have been true?

The finger cannot just be pointed at an external (unnamed yet experienced) engineering firm doing standard board design.

As always, I wish you all the best.

Re: eASIC - bothering them is not a good idea. They are an outsource company and if they start to get grief or hassled then it isn't a positive thing for shareholders.

Damn.

1633  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: GHash.IO and double-spending against BetCoin Dice on: January 09, 2014, 08:17:39 AM
* what would be the implications of reaching 51%?

If this happens expect a little bit of panic and BTC price dropping. If I were GHash.IO I would be actively selling as much bitcoin as possible right about now. Unless they have honour and stop the pool from getting over 50%, but from the sounds of it they have no honour and would rather cause panic.
1634  Economy / Securities / Re: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread [Self-Moderated] on: January 09, 2014, 07:53:04 AM
Who do you think is gonna be first, bitcoin at $10,000 or the ActM chips?

Bitcoin at $10,000, at least by that point I will have the same fiat amount as when I invested when bitcoin==$100.

Smiley

1635  Economy / Securities / Re: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread [Self-Moderated] on: January 09, 2014, 07:01:42 AM
How about I start my own updates.

For the next 2 weeks I am going to get on eASICS back.  I'll call every one of them to try to get a better understanding as to why my money has disappeared.  

I'll let you know next week about every discussion i have with them.  Don't worry, I will not take "NDA" as an answer to anything.  I'll make demands so they at least talk to us in an open discussion, because we at least deserve that.



eASIC WILL talk if you tell them their reputation depends on it.

Well that's stupid. Ken said the issue is with the engineering firm that was making the boards.

But yeah go ahead and threaten a company worth at least $100,000,000 that is sure to work out for us.
1636  Economy / Securities / Re: [Active Mining] The UNofficial Active Mining Discussion Thread [UNmoderated] on: January 09, 2014, 03:26:36 AM
I wonder if Ken has any assets that bag-holders can capture when the inevitable law suits start flying?

Nope, nothing at all.

We have the Avalon money that would return about 2% of my investment.

I'm talking about his personal assets.  He's an old man.  He should have a house at least.

Yeah the house will just about cover lawyer fees.

$300,000 = 330 bitcoin / 10,000,000 * 114,425 = An additional 3.77 bitcoin.

That less than a percent of my investment.
1637  Economy / Securities / Re: [Active Mining] The UNofficial Active Mining Discussion Thread [UNmoderated] on: January 09, 2014, 03:20:36 AM
I wonder if Ken has any assets that bag-holders can capture when the inevitable law suits start flying?

Nope, nothing at all.

We have the Avalon money that would return about 2% of my investment.
1638  Economy / Securities / Re: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread [Self-Moderated] on: January 09, 2014, 03:16:29 AM
Can anyone of you "intelligents" tell me, worst case scenario regarding the boards,

How long will they take from design - manufacture? Are we talking 6months here or?

Based on the news about RTL, I would say full production could be early June if we are lucky.

Unfortunately even getting 200TH online will be 0.001% of the network by then.

Once Bitcoin starts spiking to $10,000 AMD and Intel will start putting up farms.
1639  Economy / Securities / Re: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread [Self-Moderated] on: January 08, 2014, 05:39:20 PM
I hope Ken can remain strong and resist giving in to the whims of whinnying shareholders.

Good thing you're not a "whinnying" shareholder then...

When can Ken reveal more about intellihash; what it's is, what it does and how it works? I would like to be able to understand what makes intellihash a 'game changer'.  Thanks.

I am missing the sarcasm.

drawingthesun, you have taken my intellihash quote out of context.  It was a response to another shareholders request for questions to present to Ken.  My quote is not whinny, nor is it sarcasm.  Why are you calling me a troll for posting an opposing view to Jo's, it doesn't make sense pal.  You have got me totally wrong.

@Jo, I understand what you are saying although Ken's motive is less about his own trading and more about the global health of the company as reflected in share price, imo.  I'm sure we will continue to have opposing views on this, but then that's what discussion is all about.

Your reply is not trollish at all, I admit I might have been a bit too quick to label you.

Can I ask; were you one of the banned accounts from last week or so?
1640  Economy / Securities / Re: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread [Self-Moderated] on: January 08, 2014, 05:37:54 PM
@Drawingthesun:  Why do you think fannybaws is a troll?

1 - contradicting himself (Although I might be wrong about that)

2 - I consider all these stupid accounts made in the last week to be trolls. They were all banned for a reason.
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