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16421  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: ATTN Litecoin GPU Miners - Scrypt support for cgminer - Bounty required on: July 12, 2012, 07:06:28 PM
Anyone know the timeline on this development?

1 week? 2 weeks?

Just curious...thanks!

 Grin Grin Grin

well, when we get to 100btc, then conman will have to answer that, did you donate?

The question was in reference to once we get 100 btc and he starts...

Who cares.. at least some development is willing to be put into it.. conman is a man of his word.. he will work on it right away i am sure.

I know your selling a lot of stuff to promote litecoin.. but this is another way that brings money into litecoin.

And how does it bring money into litecoin? By making mining more efficient, how does that bring more money into litecoin...seriously draw me a picture.  Grin Grin Grin
16422  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: To all the Litecoin haters, trolls and twats on: July 12, 2012, 06:49:23 PM
The problem isn't with litecoin, it's the fact that no cryptocurrency will replace Bitcoin. It will take a monumental leap in usefulness to oust Bitcoin. Even if a billionaire were to build custom designed chips for litecoin and get every bank in America to become miners for litecoin, Bitcoin would grow faster in popularity because it is the original. It is the Levis Jeans, the Coca-cola, the Ford-don't-need-no-bailout, of original crypcoin. Litecoin will always be Pepsi at best.

Just like MySpace is so much more popular than Facebook bcuz it was the original? Lol
Myspace was a service not a commodity. Wrong analogy. If Myspace had launched an IPO and took their business model seriously, there may never have been a FaceBook IPO.

Oh so you're saying that it has to be a commodity in order for it to apply? How is being a commodity have anything to do with how YOU mentioning something being an original implies it will get more attention???

Wrong basis! lol  Grin Grin Grin Grin

You can't argue with that. I'm not hating on litecoin. The market cap on litecoin is fantastically successful. I can't wait until someone buys pizza with it! CPUs are here forever and computers will never change! Litecoin is AWESOME!!!!

Already did it bro...I'm ahead of you like you don't know LOL!  Grin Grin Grin

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=90019.0
16423  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: ATTN Litecoin GPU Miners - Scrypt support for cgminer - Bounty required on: July 12, 2012, 06:28:32 PM
Anyone know the timeline on this development?

1 week? 2 weeks?

Just curious...thanks!

 Grin Grin Grin

well, when we get to 100btc, then conman will have to answer that, did you donate?

The question was in reference to once we get 100 btc and he starts...
16424  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: ATTN Litecoin GPU Miners - Scrypt support for cgminer - Bounty required on: July 12, 2012, 06:12:14 PM
Anyone know the timeline on this development?

1 week? 2 weeks?

Just curious...thanks!

 Grin Grin Grin
16425  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN] NMControl - Manage namecoin services on: July 12, 2012, 09:44:49 AM
Namecoin has no central authority (it is its aim), so, of course there are squatters. Do they annoy you ?

Quote from: pent'
Fighting with squaters is like fighting with Bitcoin speculants. You think they do evil, I think they bring popularity to system. Bitcoin possibly never rised without speculants. And so may be true for NMC and squaters.

Let the squaters to be, let the NMC to circulate. They will rise the circuation volume. Circuation is life.

You can also participate in those topics if you have some constructive ideas about a "right" name price :
- Registering is too cheap
- Increasing the size of the value field


I think it's a bit too late for people to register anything with any remote value in terms of domain names at this point. They have had over a year to squat all the good names.

Plus undoing the registered names or trying to find a fair price and method for others to join will not work because you will piss off the early adopters if you take their "cookie" away...

Seems messed up. Perhaps a restart?
16426  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: BFL Labs just like Get-rich-quick-schemes on: July 12, 2012, 09:40:31 AM
This question of "why dont you just mine instead of selling?" is answered by (paraphrasing) "we don't mine, we are hardware enthusiasts and this is what we do".

I will believe the product when I see it. And if I am wrong and they do deliver, then they are retarded for selling their secret.

Legitimately, these would need to be "burned in" by mining.  So they can do a little of both -- mine some for themselves (while difficulty is low).

Watch for shipments to be timed right at each difficulty adjustment.  (e.g., mine before the difficulty change, then ship, then start the prep for the next batch for shipment 2,106 blocks later).

But they probably could never get the investment funding necessary to design and build these if they weren't pre-selling.  So even though this route does leave potential profit on the table (from not mining themselves), it does allow them to not just remain in the mining hardware vendor space but to remain the leader.



Private funding allows for them to get these manufactured. less people in on the pie means bigger pie for you.

I guess we should be "thankful" they are wanting to "share" their creation(s) with all of us.

You're forgetting that they are hardware manufacturers that are developing hardware (not just software) for a relatively unpredictable market.
If they were to keep it all a "secret" and just mine themselves, they'd be shooting themselves in the feet.
Why?

If they were to, they start mining like crazy. They, single handedly, raise the difficulty level. Sure, they get some marginal profits initially, but because no one else owns this technology or "secret" - they won't be able to make any SIGNIFICANT money for themselves. Because who knows?  Their bitcoins after their shenangains might not be worth anywhere near as much as their investment into the technology to begin with if difficulty for mining shoots up, no one can mine for bitcoin, prices may or may not change drastically, mining would either stop or halt because this HUGE unknown is pouring out hundreds of Th/s of hash from their "secret" ASIC farms and no one else can hold a candle to it. I mean, this is hypothetical but I cannot see how far off it would be one "group/individual" were to just suddenly be pulling Th/s out of thin air with no one else to compete.

They're making a much larger and SOLID profit by selling the hardware. Bitcoin could flourish in their favor, but it could completely bomb too and they would never recuperate their own ROI on dev. Their profit on most the hardware initially will be full proof. Their selling hardware for profit, not creating hardware for themselves to hypothetically make money on an unpredictable market.

The wouldn't have to raise the difficulty much to mine a significant amount of bitcoins. You assume that I was thinking they should mine like crazy and that wasn't what i was saying. Just like buying bitcoins one should buy slowly...just like mining with an advantageous set of hardware...mine at a nice steady rate.

16427  Economy / Economics / Re: Why did bitcoin jump up in price so suddenly in the past 2 weeks? on: July 12, 2012, 09:32:35 AM
Just after the news that BFL ASIC is coming

ASIC miners will increase the whole network hashing power a lot (so does difficulty), this will dramatically reduce the availability for BTC for average person, so either they invest in ASIC miner or use those money to buy BTC now

Agreed. The ASIC miners will hoard bitcoins because less will be generated through mining as difficulty rises and block havling occurs.
16428  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN] NMControl - Manage namecoin services on: July 12, 2012, 09:19:26 AM
So how many domain name squatters do we have in existence for this system? Expecially at the current price of nmc domain names....

Probably few squatters but squatting many domains. Smiley

-MarkM-


Not very even playing field to new comers huh...

16429  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN] NMControl - Manage namecoin services on: July 12, 2012, 07:56:51 AM
So how many domain name squatters do we have in existence for this system? Expecially at the current price of nmc domain names....

16430  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: To all the Litecoin haters, trolls and twats on: July 12, 2012, 07:47:00 AM
The problem isn't with litecoin, it's the fact that no cryptocurrency will replace Bitcoin. It will take a monumental leap in usefulness to oust Bitcoin. Even if a billionaire were to build custom designed chips for litecoin and get every bank in America to become miners for litecoin, Bitcoin would grow faster in popularity because it is the original. It is the Levis Jeans, the Coca-cola, the Ford-don't-need-no-bailout, of original crypcoin. Litecoin will always be Pepsi at best.

Just like MySpace is so much more popular than Facebook bcuz it was the original? Lol
Myspace was a service not a commodity. Wrong analogy. If Myspace had launched an IPO and took their business model seriously, there may never have been a FaceBook IPO.

Oh so you're saying that it has to be a commodity in order for it to apply? How is being a commodity have anything to do with how YOU mentioning something being an original implies it will get more attention???

Wrong basis! lol  Grin Grin Grin Grin
16431  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: To all the Litecoin haters, trolls and twats on: July 12, 2012, 04:49:04 AM
The problem isn't with litecoin, it's the fact that no cryptocurrency will replace Bitcoin. It will take a monumental leap in usefulness to oust Bitcoin. Even if a billionaire were to build custom designed chips for litecoin and get every bank in America to become miners for litecoin, Bitcoin would grow faster in popularity because it is the original. It is the Levis Jeans, the Coca-cola, the Ford-don't-need-no-bailout, of original crypcoin. Litecoin will always be Pepsi at best.

Just like MySpace is so much more popular than Facebook bcuz it was the original? Lol
16432  Economy / Economics / Re: Silver and Gold for Bitcoin Spot Price High on: July 12, 2012, 03:11:05 AM
Open up your own bitcoin to silver or gold business and let us all know how low your prices are...lol

 Grin
16433  Economy / Economics / Re: Safe deposit box insurance for bitcoin contents? on: July 12, 2012, 03:09:21 AM
OP you must have missed the whole point of bitcoin: to give 100% control back to the people of their money. By putting your wallet/bitcoins in a safety deposit box you have essentially given back that control to the banks.

Suggestion: Use a brainwallet so you can remember a phrase that would decrypt your private key.
16434  Economy / Speculation / Re: ASIC Rigs Make Price Skyrocket along with difficulty? on: July 12, 2012, 02:52:01 AM
Difficulty change would keep the amount of bitcoins being produced on par with current rates. The price will still increase as the profitability rate for each MH/s will decrease due to the increased difficulty.

Wishful thinking my friend.

Bitcoin miners fall into 2 groups, hoarders or dumpers.
There is a fixed income of BTC for miners regardless of the hash power of amount of miners.
This just means we will have more miners selling the same amount of bitcoins monthly but less per miner.

For the price to go up there needs to be a demand from the buyers not the sellers (miners).

I personally hope that the difficulty skyrockets so high that no one including that abohrent company of Big Fucking Liars can make a profit and mining becomes purely altruistic .

I LOL'd
16435  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: To all the Litecoin haters, trolls and twats on: July 12, 2012, 02:42:42 AM
The naysayers still have yet to present any real arguments against Litecoin other than "Bitcoin is just as good and works."

+1

I find it funny that bitcoin developers don't show support for alt-chains.

Only thing that gives reason to this would be how much of a stake they have already in bitcoin....i.e. money.

Once again it's about money...big surprise.

 Grin Grin Grin
16436  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: AdCoin on: July 12, 2012, 01:58:06 AM
So people would leave their browser open with advertisements on it?

Did i get the right?
16437  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: What happens when the block reward halves to 25? on: July 12, 2012, 12:53:12 AM
If there's no panic(or bubble, or special events), it will gradually forces the price higher. You'll not see a big difference on a small period, but on a longer period, it will affect the price.

It will probably cause a bunch of miners to lose their profitability, and my guess is that some will quit the market. If miners quit the market, it will force the difficulty down, giving more Bitcoins to those who stay, helping them stay profitable.

But it could also create a panic. "Oh my god, there's going to be less Bitcoins, let's buy them!" sort of thing. In that case, well, everything can happen.

My call? My entire being except my instinct tells me that there will be no panic. My instinct tells me that people are going to freak out and create Bitcoin Bubble 2.

I LAWLed at the bolded statement...

hahaha

 Grin Grin
16438  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: To all the Litecoin haters, trolls and twats on: July 11, 2012, 10:25:37 PM
Litecoin will have its day.  Unfortunately just not today.

LTC had it's day, and it was almost literally a day.  RIP LTC.

LOL. Ahh time will tell...

Price spiked to close to 8cents per LTC. Last few rallies in USD in Feb hit 5 cents. I think we may see a stablizing of price then possibly a slower price increase.
16439  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [DEAD] Coiledcoin - yet another cryptocurrency, but with OP_EVAL! on: July 11, 2012, 09:18:52 PM
News at 11

Luke Jr. can't take down LTC so he 51% attacks a new GPU currency


Is this still true?
Not quite. There are a couple of vulnerabilities in Litecoin that can be used as soon as they're disclosed. I don't think they can be used in a legal manner (without permission from the targets), though. Would be nice to see real-world effects of one of them being exploited, so I'm hoping the Litecoin dev team and some volunteer users can agree on a specific day to do this.

As far as I know he switched to just plain old mining it. Using his pool's users' hashing power, of course.
Not quite "plain old mining", since I only accepted huge transaction fees. And it didn't use the pool users.

So essentially it is still true until you have the vulnerability info...lol

16440  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [DEAD] Coiledcoin - yet another cryptocurrency, but with OP_EVAL! on: July 11, 2012, 09:04:29 PM
News at 11

Luke Jr. can't take down LTC so he 51% attacks a new GPU currency


Is this still true?
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