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16621  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Nurturing AlternaCoins on: June 29, 2012, 03:06:25 AM
Litecoin is vulnerable to even CVE-2012-1910 which was disclosed back in March.
I've created a pull request to fix it, mostly as a test for the Litecoin maintainer(s).

Additionally, I've confirmed that CVE-2012-2459 (fixed in Bitcoin 0.6.2) and CVE-2012-3789 (fixed in Bitcoin 0.6.3) would both be trivial to port fixes to Litecoin once disclosed.

P.S. This is not an endorsement of Litecoin in any way. It is still a scamcoin, after all.

How is it a scam coin? No one premined anything...

Translation of the Red: "I am heavily invested in bitcoins thus any other alternative to bitcoin as a digital currency is a "scam"".
16622  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Nurturing AlternaCoins on: June 29, 2012, 03:04:33 AM
Litecoin is vulnerable to even CVE-2012-1910 which was disclosed back in March.
I've created a pull request to fix it, mostly as a test for the Litecoin maintainer(s).

Additionally, I've confirmed that CVE-2012-2459 (fixed in Bitcoin 0.6.2) and CVE-2012-3789 (fixed in Bitcoin 0.6.3) would both be trivial to port fixes to Litecoin once disclosed.

P.S. This is not an endorsement of Litecoin in any way. It is still a scamcoin, after all.

How is it a scam coin? No one premined anything...
16623  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Nurturing AlternaCoins on: June 29, 2012, 03:03:39 AM
Rereading my original post, I should make clear: the people I really have issues with are the people who think it is more fun to try to destroy something than to help build it.  
It is a shame all of the Bitcoin developers don't agree with this.
Unfortunately I cannot legally copy and paste the freenode #litecoin IRC logs on this forum.

and when the Bitcoin devs have finished welcoming asics there will be plenty of people looking for alternaate uses for their cpus and gpus maybe a viable alternate coin would suit them.
Bitcoin is alienating many of the people that supported it for a long time by welcoming ASIC technology and driving out the small "hobby user"

my 2LTC worth

Agreed. One person in particular would be Luke-jr from what I hear he has nothing better to do than to try to destroy something.
16624  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Litecoin - a lite version of Bitcoin. Launched! on: June 28, 2012, 11:55:21 PM
Has this been updated recently?
16625  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Litecoin - a lite version of Bitcoin. Launched! on: June 28, 2012, 08:51:04 PM
Is the litecoin development still active? I believe the lastest commit was like three months ago.

I'm working on getting the latest Bitcoin fixes into Litecoin. Stay tuned.

Coblee, since you're adding latest Bitcoin fixes, might be worth integrating the one which optimizes block propagation time.
I think it's called "signature verification cache" and was added into 0.6.3 by Gavin.

Maybe it's not critical for Litecoin now, but considering the higher block rate and how slowly people upgrade their clients,
it's likely that Litecoin will face this problem sooner than later, so better start preparing now!


+1

Gotta stay on top of it
16626  Economy / Goods / Re: [WTB] Silver or 1/2g gold with LTC on: June 28, 2012, 08:17:08 AM
Smoothies super awesome silver for LTC auction https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=90199.0 (had to give him the bump, I love seeing LTC stuff in the marketplace section) makes me want to buy some silver with LTC.  

I have 2866 LTC and am mining solo with .07m/hash to give you an idea of the rate at which I acquire them.

I'm interested in silver dimes, quarters, morgan half-dollars, etc.  If anyone somehow has 1/2g of gold they'd like to part with, I'd actually be more interested in that.  ShireSilver, I'm lookin' at you!

Unless you're extremely reputable, I will expect the seller to ship first.  I will be the judge of "reputable."

So, whatcha got for me?   Cheesy



Thanks for the bump Joint!  Grin
16627  Economy / Goods / Re: WTS - 20 Silver Eagles for LTC - bidding Starts at 60k LTC on: June 28, 2012, 07:53:21 AM
Updated starting bid.  Grin
16628  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: WTS - 20 one troy ounce of 2010 U.S Silver Eagle .999 Bullion Coins for LTC on: June 28, 2012, 07:49:52 AM
Updated starting bid. Perhaps now there will be more participation.  Grin
16629  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: WTS - 20 one troy ounce of 2010 U.S Silver Eagle .999 Bullion Coins for LTC on: June 28, 2012, 04:58:19 AM
I'll buy one for 2866 LTC.  That cleans me out.  I'll offer 3,500 LTC if you want to wait a week or two for me to mine the rest.


Well for 1 I would probably want something more along the lines of 9,000.

I dont set the market prices for SLV or BTC or even LTC.

...~9 BTC in LTC for 1 oz.?  You realize that's like $50+


Sorry my math is off...more like 4700.

Ay, fair enough.  Too rich for my blood.  Good luck with the auction!

Thanks for the interest!  Grin
16630  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: WTS - 20 one troy ounce of 2010 U.S Silver Eagle .999 Bullion Coins for LTC on: June 28, 2012, 04:51:54 AM
I'll buy one for 2866 LTC.  That cleans me out.  I'll offer 3,500 LTC if you want to wait a week or two for me to mine the rest.


Well for 1 I would probably want something more along the lines of 9,000.

I dont set the market prices for SLV or BTC or even LTC.

...~9 BTC in LTC for 1 oz.?  You realize that's like $50+


Sorry my math is off...more like 4700.
16631  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: WTS - 20 one troy ounce of 2010 U.S Silver Eagle .999 Bullion Coins for LTC on: June 28, 2012, 04:47:39 AM
I'll buy one for 2866 LTC.  That cleans me out.  I'll offer 3,500 LTC if you want to wait a week or two for me to mine the rest.


Well for 1 I would probably want something more along the lines of 9,000.

I dont set the market prices for SLV or BTC or even LTC.
16632  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: WTS - 20 one troy ounce of 2010 U.S Silver Eagle .999 Bullion Coins for LTC on: June 28, 2012, 04:40:27 AM
Gosh it sure is quiet in here.

And here I thought people were wanting to spend their LTC.  Wink
16633  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Nurturing AlternaCoins on: June 28, 2012, 04:02:33 AM
When I tell people I work on Bitcoin full-time, a somewhat common reaction is "Really?  I thought Bitcoin was finished, what do you work on?"

I spend half my development time working on new stuff (or testing new stuff that other people have submitted), but the other half I spend trying to anticipate problems or reacting to problems that are reported. That work tends to be unseen, partly because we want to keep problems quiet while we fix them and partly because quietly anticipating/fixing problems minimizes the 'lulz' that attackers might enjoy if every single-node-DoS attack caused us to run around like chickens with our heads cut off.

Anyway, good developers are hard to find, and one of the reasons I'm not thrilled by all of the AlternaCoins is because I'd rather a good developer help make Bitcoin better rather than spend their time with the busy-work of cross-porting the latest Bitcoin fixes to some other codebase. I would guess that some of the developers of the alternative chains underestimated the amount of work it takes to nurture them and keep them healthy. Maybe that will change when Bitcoin is truly mature and has dealt with another year or two or six of attacks and scaling issues...

I truly don't mean this to sound like a threat, but I think some of the blockchains that have been chugging along running on an ancient forked version of the Bitcoin codebase will be attacked; pretty soon we'll be fully disclosing the denial-of-service bugs that prompted the 0.6.2/0.6.3 releases, and it is highly likely somebody will decide to play with exploit code on a vulnerable chain.

I wish people would find more constructive things to do with their time, but I wish I could fly and never get old like Peter Pan, too.


To be honest Gavin, I think it's a question of Ownership. Bitcoin hit GPU mining before it hit mainstream- and thus those who weren't early adopters feel left out. Sentimental? Yes, but not irrelevant. If the cost to entry is a serious GPU farm, many casual people who would over time get seriously committed if they had a chance, are lost. Bitcoin is great for all the reasons we all know, but for ordinary people (especially those not fond of math) selling them on bitcoin is like selling them a piece of the moon.

One could make the argument that if the wave of individuals who got involved in alternacoins like LTC (thanks to Bitcoins PR) is greater then the original Bitcoin early adopter crew, there is a chance that in the long run a Larger AlternaCoin community might make a more viable concurrent currency system.

By day I'm a reasonably well known fashion photographer- hardly the kind of guy you would expect to get involved. But here I am, and I'm mining LTC because I can. I also have an incentive to spend the summer learning to program so I can build apps that use LTC to raise the value of the LTC I've already mined. Hopefully LTC remains somewhat viable for people to mine long enough to get an even larger group of invested new-early adopters.

We all like bitcoin- no doubt about it, but for me to have to go through a still very lengthy (bank transfer to exchange) or costly (bitInstant is not cheap) process to get bitcoins just to turn around and buy things I could buy anyway with a credit card- doesn't rock my boat in quite the same way.

I understand the why/how of Bitcoin, but I think a sense of ownership that coins like LTC still offer is very powerful.

Imagine this- The United States was conquered al'la Manifest Destiny in many ways thanks to the free opportunity of ownership that the "west" offered. Gold rush or land rush, the idea was to distribute potential wealth as widely as possible so that you suddenly had a great number of people invested in the idea of "America". I lived and studied in great depth and many years in the former Communist states and a key principle in converting Communists countries to Capitalist societies was redistribution of wealth. It wasn't perfect by a long shot, but it got people invested in a sense of ownership in a free society.

Coins are quite the same. They need to be distributed as widely as possible to ensure a user base of support- the primary mechanism of this is mining. BTC is already relatively elite to mine, but I think it's questionable if it grew it's user base large enough prior to becoming relatively elite.

An alt Coin like LTC has an opportunity to build on BTC's success and gather a wider user base while (hopefully) keeping mining an option for more users, longer.

In the end, I think it's not about the coin- it's about the IDEA of bitcoin. If one succeeds more or less then another it's somewhat irrelevant- if any of them succede it's a victory for the philosophy. That's more important no?

 

BRAVO! Well said.  Grin
16634  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: WTS - 20 one troy ounce of 2010 U.S Silver Eagle .999 Bullion Coins for LTC on: June 28, 2012, 02:14:58 AM
just helping to get the ball rolling.  that's not my final offer.

Okay sounds cool. Let me know if you have a bid in the 90k range. That's a bit more like it.  Grin
16635  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: WTS - 20 one troy ounce of 2010 U.S Silver Eagle .999 Bullion Coins for LTC on: June 27, 2012, 09:16:02 PM
Currently LTC buy price is 0.0010501 BTC/LTC.

Current SLV spot price is $26.99 per troy ounce of silver.

Current Apmex price (with shipping) is $33.50 per troy ounce of silver (roll = $670.00)

Current Ebay price (with shipping) is $33.85 per troy ounce of silver (roll = $677.00)

So lets use $673.50 / ($6.41/BTC - Mt. GOX) = 105.07 BTC

105.07 BTC / 0.0010501 BTC/LTC = 100,057.33 LTC

**Note: please bid in increments of 250 LTC when outbidding each other.

Bidding will start at 100,000 LTC!

Not much of an auction with a difference of 57.33 LTC or .40 USD between the starting bid and the "street value"...
I'll bid 25,000 LTC
Given price movements in ltc, btc, and slv is why. In response your bid is saying you will buy my silver at $$6.75 an ounce. Not much of an offer bro.
16636  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: LTC for a Pizza! =) on: June 27, 2012, 04:09:49 PM
GODDAMNIT LOOK AT THAT BEAUTY
even with a garlic sauce!

Also with the jalapeno pepper too... he he he he

Did it have a cheesy crust ?
Naw bro just regular crust. Didn't know papa johns had cheesy crust pizzas
16637  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: LTC for a Pizza! =) on: June 27, 2012, 08:59:58 AM
GODDAMNIT LOOK AT THAT BEAUTY
even with a garlic sauce!

Also with the jalapeno pepper too... he he he he
16638  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: LTC for a Pizza! =) on: June 27, 2012, 08:29:34 AM
Pinkbatman....thank you! I told the driver to keep the extra cash you spotted him as tip!

Thanks again! =)

History in the making baby!....   Grin
16639  Economy / Goods / WTS - 20 Silver Eagles for LTC - bidding Starts at 60k LTC on: June 27, 2012, 08:22:03 AM
I'm selling 20 One troy ounce US 2010 Silver Eagle Bullion Coins (.999 fine silver) for LTC!

The price will include shipping, tracking, insurance, and delivery confirmation. The person who wins, we can discuss using a reputable escrow service to ensure a successful exchange between myself and you.

This will be a 1 week auction.

When you submit your bids please indicate your region/country/state so I can calculate shipping costs.

I'm using current LTC prices to determine the value of the exchange.

Currently LTC buy price is 0.0010501 BTC/LTC.

Current SLV spot price is $26.99 per troy ounce of silver.

Current Apmex price (with shipping) is $33.50 per troy ounce of silver (roll = $670.00)

Current Ebay price (with shipping) is $33.85 per troy ounce of silver (roll = $677.00)

So lets use $673.50 / ($6.41/BTC - Mt. GOX) = 105.07 BTC

105.07 BTC / 0.0010501 BTC/LTC = 100,057.33 LTC

**Note: please bid in increments of 250 LTC 350 when outbidding each other.

Bidding will start at 100,000 LTC!


Bidding will now start at 60,000 LTC







16640  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / WTS - 20 one troy ounce of 2010 U.S Silver Eagle .999 Bullion Coins for LTC on: June 27, 2012, 08:20:30 AM
I'm selling 20 One troy ounce US 2010 Silver Eagle Bullion Coins (.999 fine silver) for LTC!

The price will include shipping, tracking, insurance, and delivery confirmation. The person who wins, we can discuss using a reputable escrow service to ensure a successful exchange between myself and you.

This will be a 1 week auction.

When you submit your bids please indicate your region/country/state so I can calculate shipping costs.

I'm using current LTC prices to determine the value of the exchange.

Currently LTC buy price is 0.0010501 BTC/LTC.

Current SLV spot price is $26.99 per troy ounce of silver.

Current Apmex price (with shipping) is $33.50 per troy ounce of silver (roll = $670.00)

Current Ebay price (with shipping) is $33.85 per troy ounce of silver (roll = $677.00)

So lets use $673.50 / ($6.41/BTC - Mt. GOX) = 105.07 BTC

105.07 BTC / 0.0010501 BTC/LTC = 100,057.33 LTC

**Note: please bid in increments of 250 LTC 350 when outbidding each other.

Bidding will start at 100,000 LTC!


Bidding will now start at 60,000 LTC







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