where'd the quote post button go? did bitcointalk remove it maybe that's why samiam666 left... he couldn't misuse the quote button anymore and became scared?


shouldn't that be helping scam the world bit by bit?

Maybe someone should let the sec know that bitlend is suing gaw (joe mordica and Garza brothers). It would be a terrible conflict of interest for allen's customers should the sec not be aware of such a fact, considering that he has joe on board... who knows maybe he can provide some testimony to save joe because he has all that background info showing joe was innocent and not involved... maybe we can do a google hangout recorded and he can answer that to me face to face?

I'm quite sure they have all the necessary business stuff setup considering they have a 50% investment person in the uae.

Maybe allen can provide some information to the sec considering he has a current lawsuit going right?

It would be a shame for him not to be involved helping out the suffering paycoiners he is trying to help.

Maybe he could even send me a donation in a box.... I dunno maybe a dead animal of some kind? That is after he doxes me?

Funny there is no samiam666 for a while.... does this mean carlos, josh and his other buddies all have gag orders or investigations which prevent them from talking as those aliases and the abc organisations have used ip match ups to inform them they know they are their alter egos?

Lets crowd fund to have slender man go after josh. Or maybe we just send suchmoon to his place as slander man? . Suchmoon could take a printed copy of bitcoin talk topic and talk to josh and carlos... of course carlos can have a lawyer present so he knows how to answer and maybe a therapist so he doesn't get too scared? Or maybe his mum could comfort him if there is anything in the print outs that scare him or pick on him. Actually the therapist would be better... maybe they could address his alter ego of samiam666 to help him move on.

The only thing that scares me is that picture of mr ganza in the chair with no shirt on... that is some serious nightmare shit...

Threats of money lawsuits? Or threats of you don't want to go into

They are idiots because the aim to scam and make money I'm sure is to get away with it. Its a pointless task if you make cash but go to jail and have it all seized right? Josh was just incredibly stupid at doing it .... incompetent actually. I mean look at his mail that got out from some google mail service or whatever it was.... look at his pathetic attempt to scrub info from sites when he follows bitcointalk and sees all the archiving.. he probably thought if I remove it from the original site I can just say they photoshopped it. Look at his trying to hide more shell companies and it being exposed... literally nothing he has done has been hidden right in any way but he keeps digging deeper and deeper.

He's like the most terrible scammer alive... i'd be more inclined to send money to a Nigerian scam email with all their easily pointed out flaws than have Garza get me. Though I will admit I had some hashlets in the day early until I saw some common discrepancies then I bailed. He got greedy but wasn't smart enough to be able to hide the issues.

That's why he's an idiot. He's really bad at what he does.

Yeah I know Rishab had been a millionaire investment loss...

Honestly I don't know why Mike is scared for his family and personal safety I mean lets analyse this and be honest.
- Josh was scared shitless himself with bodyguards and couldn't commit to shit.
- He taps the wifes phone / car for surveillance but she's still alive and a psycho I'm sure would attack her first.
- Josh can't complete anything correctly not even a scam... you seriously think he could pull off a hit? The guys attempt to pull off a hit would likely be going to the yahoo ask me boards and posing a question for where can I find someone to kill someone and do they take paycoin or prime controller keys?

Honestly he's not the sharpest tool in the shed and i'd be confident to give him a gun and stand in a room with him... he's far more likely to fuck that up and shoot himself than me.

Josh just really isn't a clever human being nor is carlos as they are spawned from the same shallow gene pool. They are literally the most stupid human beings I have ever seen.

They are not scary... they are not threatening and I can assure you carlos and josh are more scared of the people who actually have connections that want their blood from losses... I mean remember josh threatening that phil guy for not making the overseas investors whole? Carlos at sec investigation chat being scared? He's not scared of the law system he's scared of the people that will get to him from others on the inside.

And to think earning less and doing it right could result in a happy wife, family and life but some people just get greedy. It was however their choice so they own their consequences.

Its not meant to pay for itself... I don't think it was ever marketed that way. They say the chip gives a trickle payment to develop with etc.

Honestly if you are a dev with the tech head nature you can setup your own and would do that. This solution is designed to be an ecosystem use device in the end. You're paying to get in on the ground floor of that... not to buy them in bulk and mine with.

I'm not sure people are understanding that part... everyone seems to latch onto the miner portion and criticise that... its almost like outside of mining and buying selling the coins nobody thinks bitcoin is useful for anything else... like buying products and services?

Probably find in the future your laptops, tablets and computers will come with a pcie add in card that is from 21 inc and is integrated into the entire internet payment wise.

Companies won't need to imbed ads and all that other bs anymore... behind the scenes they'll be taking your money from what your embedded chips make. Probably api's that talk to you and ask if you want to direct your funds towards youtube or the like.

So while your computer is running and crunching the service you are running gets a portion of or your trickle of coin. Easy way to milk money from end users without annoying them with ads... they'll be paying money without realising.. this is one possibility I thought.

I still think this device is good value for early developers/adopters. I agree that you can buy the parts for cheaper and yes they could just sell the software but this is a complete ecosystem solution you are buying into... an appliance that makes you bitcoin enabled. Its not for mass adoption yet its for those techy enough to get in early. If you basically sell it for cost price people will mass order these with the intention they are miners... but usb miners do that. 21 inc I think isn't trying to make a cheap miner at present for people to buy and mine... NO they are trying to get bitcoin used more in utility and solutions. People are focusing too much on the mining part. Cross that part out for now ignore it... think of the device being a payment gateway through 21 inc and your ability to develop through a sdk path that 21 inc will be promoting and hyping.

You are getting a device you can develop a solution for which 21 inc are going to hyp. Next year we'll see developed solutions with these cropping up and I'm sure 21 inc will follow up with the consumer stuff that will enable interaction and mass adoption with this..... its only step 1.

There was actually very few people that lost 6 figures. I'm guessing just that rishab guy (craig???) and tank had a fair bit but I wouldn't say 6 figures from what I remember reading.

The majority of garzas "war chest" TM came from dribs and drabs. Likely the average investor threew 4k at him... adds up with a bunch of people.

I had around $4-6k AUD in it but it was all the zencloud mining stuff.. I smelt scammed and ran as soon as hashpoints finished as I knew it wasn't going to end well. I ended up a little in front or cost neutral because I remember adding up my spent on hashlets to what I needed to sell them at to get back even.

The majority on this topic have been exposing josh from the start so they aren't neckbeards that lost. When people lose the topics usually start with "I'm starting a lawsuit who wants in".

Cryptsy with 0 trade fees now is allowing xpy more fake volume. xpy was doing like 2-4btc a day tops and last 2 days its 87 btc? Cmon its not a resurgence look at the order books its back and forward between accounts bot trades to give a false impression. Nobody should be trading it now unless they believe in the coin. All trading it does if you don't believe is you playing a game to try to milk more out of those that have already lost.... likely they will see how and buy lower and try to make little games to make themselves whole... but as dumb as they are they will lose smaller amount again and again.

I think it adds to the whole package. On the site faq it says that the miner component isn't aimed to generate huge mining returns. They state that it will give a trickle of bitcoin to use for dev and testing and expenditures (the pool brings constant payments in instead of an unreliable hit every x days / 6 hours and I believe they state they don't take a portion of the coins).

I don't believe its machine to machine micro payments its all gathered and pushed through their mined blocks or something i'd have to re-read the faq (which isn't rich of information).

21 inc I believe is taking bitcoin and becoming the equivalent of mastercard / visa in this space. The devices etc are part of the global scheme like your paypass paywave or eft machines. In the end maybe 21 inc provides devices to businesses etc and priority support on a rental basis?

Its actually smart... become the blockchain-bank major provider.

There is a lot more to the roadmap for their devices and I think the focus everyone is placing is on the devices they are making rather than their intention to bring bitcoin to mainstream spending and being the goto company that businesses pay to accept bitcoin payments.

Needs more info i'll agree but it is preorders and I think this initial round is very developer centric and test bed while they fine tune a more cut down device.. I guess consider it like an occulus rift dev kit?

I like their vision... I don't think the device is meant to be a miner and we shouldn't be looking at it as a comparison to miners in general.

Its a complete bitcoin node with suite of tools. I look at it in 2 ways

- a test bed for a device you have at home hooked into your pc all the time... you become your own paypal... you send payments through applications on this device for your Netflix content consuming etc. Down the track I'm sure it will be shrunk in size and look more appealing. It'll become another device attached to your computer like a printer, scanner etc. Maybe somewhere wirelessly in the house where you make payments I dunno.

- you'll see something like this at all your stores hooked to their computers at the cash register. they'll run the suite of tools on this device integrated with point of sales to process your sales in an uncomplicated way. I know they have ipad apps etc that do this but a branded box device with as much VC money and push that 21 inc has I can see it being pushed to stores in an aggressive way once more people adopt it.

I think this is just phase one and this is the service and utility we are wanting to have bitcoin push forwards so I'm excited about it. Your bitcoin holdings will have value in use and not just cash to fiat. I think this is going to be a big deal longer term.

Yes its a pi with their chip but its the software component and use case that gives it value... they are just building off a hardware product that does what it does well at present.

Good times... I think i'll get some more bitcoin.

I'm hoping its easily adaptable to other alt coins.... but maybe only sha256.

Hey Vlad glad to see you are a man of your own words and can admit when you are wrong... with that out of the way

I think you are wrong on the revival... Garza can only revive with funds. With all the sec investigations and the like going around his only source being stuart fraser do you honestly think stuart as dense is he is to be involved with Garza in the first place would go down that path?

Once its prime time showing to make him make good he'll have to prove to authorities he has the capital and business plan to follow through.. there is no friggen way this is possible so I think you are wrong on that call but of course that's my opinion.

Garza has no prime controllers... his scam buddies are relying on the fact he takes the fall and they milk the crumbs now with its lower rate.

There is no strange behaviour because its lost all its big milking potential... at present with the hyper rates for the few they can probably milk 1-2 btc a day if they go hardcore.. spread amongst the scamming paycoin foundation that's little for each.

Nothing good can come of paycoin. Not now not the future... it will forever be relegated to a form of play money that those suckered will exchange with each other... no sensible person would go in big to relieve them of their debts. If they do.... they are a moron... its that simple.

I don't think he's hiding anywhere... likely near where carlos had his sec interview as I'm sure Josh is up for one too.

No news about josh is only because he's not doing anything of importance anymore that warrants him being found by people in his scams. He's just sitting back shatting bricks and waiting to be processed. The next thing we hear about josh will be the court case hearing. Just watch the crypto news it'll come sooner or later.

I'd shoot you if I had my raygun

Will it be accepted on meganet ? Can I buy a ray gun with it?

No I don't .... its a medical issue, I asked because I saw something indicating it in all your posts so thought i'd ask. Might be worth consulting with the doctor on medication dosages etc to control it.

If you are bipolar and aware it is your responsibility to manage it. Abusing people and then when someone asks something serious like that and getting defensive is hypocritical. In your interests of being a better person its something to consider.

Ok... first sheep shagging is actually new Zealand and they make fun of themselves for it... That's not Australia... Australia is the one with kangaroo's, emus and koalas... and about a million different types of snakes and spiders that all want to kill us.

Lets try round 2 for the insults.

Are you bipolar?