Hi guys, long weekend. Had some family stuff to deal with, getting back to it today.
As to guy behind the Ionomy handle. I'm Richard Nelson, support director for ionomy.
We'll try and work through the thread today and get some of the more outstanding questions resolved.
The business registration is still stuck in government limbo, we're working with them and our local contact to get it sorted.
thank your richard. can you confirm you are the only person who uses this account and others that do will state this in their posts? in the name of accountability. |
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At a bare minimum, he was stupid enough to fall for the GAW/Garza scam
I switched off at this point. People who get burgled, robbed, scammed, defrauded, tricked, deceived.... ...these are NOT stupid people - they are victims of people with ill intent. I am glad you have never been robbed/burgled/victimised, you don't know how it feels. This is likely the reason for your ignorance. @mrcoins in a post recently you agreed with me on transparency and we should know who ionomy is. but you also like posts by huey saying comments counter to releasing information provided. which is it. do you remember garza saying we dont have to release info just because non believers ask just trust us. these ion people are doing the same. you say you've learnt a lot since the xpy days but this is the same thing. my questions is what is your stance on this again. for transparency or not? or do you play both sides where it suits? you should push them to release info as they are taking money. if there is nothing to hide why the need to show addresses for original premine, names on handles etc. if you cant support that then im affraid you actually didnt learn anything from xpy like you say. |
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Let me ask this. What Profitable Investments have you made? (If you can answer that and show me proof you made money. Then i will listen to your Advise on what i should do with my money and time)
lol fun stuff sounds about right. prove everything because we say so |
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All valid point but you don't use BTC in this platform because it does not handle micropayments efficiently, as far as Garza goes I don't think he'll be free much longer.
As far as the haslet business goes that was again, Garza...
A lot of fake documentation was used to burn a lot of peoples names but we are all entitled to our own opinions and it's very tough to trust anyone in crypto these days..im just trying to play the devil's advocate here and asking you all to use some logic.
Just the mere fact that XPY staked on contribution was a huge issue, because it allows a stake of the wallet is turned off and back on. Ion on the other hand will stake solely on connectivity..you need to stay connected to hit the probability of a stake within it's PoS 3.0.
Also as far as the hundreds of pages you claim to be warnings..it's actually a whole lot of bullshit that has no substance...a lot of fud and trolling.
We need to do our due diligence and really be careful in the crypto space but the truth will set ION free, just stay tuned.
You must be one fucking idiot. Bitcoin isn't viable or efficient or whatever you need to scam. Fucking clown. Your stupid games are from codecanyon or upwork. You're worthless, is scamming the only business you can run? My money is on them not showing the complete premine address. Because... drum roll On launch they will - Split the premine into as many masternodes as they can to ensure they have the max % returns from master node 50/50. They'll disguise this by saying by us setting up masternodes it starts a stable network. They'll say all earning ion in masternodes will be burned but you'll never see it burned because you won't have the address. - push for the likes of a member not known e.g. adam matlack won't make the request but unknowns on the team will do it to poloniex and bittrex. God help them if this succeeds although i doubt it because the google searches will returns relevance. I believe now that the reason behind staying behind the ionomy handle and not detailing who it is is for this purpose. - the stakers people have will lock the ion for what is it 2-3 months? that gives them time to milk off the masternode reward ion into these bittrex and poloniex markets if they occur. There will be minimal competition as funds will be held in stakers locked. What competition they do get will be beaten by the coins they have in masternode rewards. - if a major exchange isn't achieved they will attempt yobit etc and try to mark it as an exclusive or spin some way and work to get their users into buying it there. The above is a possible scenario to their continued reason to stay anonymous. I'd remember this above and wait in time. |
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It is an dilema  It is ok for crypto to stay anon, just look at the person everybody looks for that they call satoshi . Problem is, if scammers are somewhere involved people want to know. You can create an new identity and publish it here so that everybody is happy, but the coding as well as the attitude and person itself would never change. Both is legit, to ask if scammers are onboard and them as "company" keeping itin secrect. The one is more customer oriented and transparent than the other.. Difference is ionomy are taking btc funds and xpy in exchange for ion. People are risking money on anonymous stuff. Satoshi promised and sold nothing. Satoshi created an open source product he distributed at no cost people were free to use how they wanted. Bit of a difference here. In short Satoshi didn't take fiat or anything in exchange for btc. |
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adam matlack closely works with joe mordica the famous GAW CTO who knew he was selling air & negotiated power deal with MS power in his home town. who knows maybe joe is part of ION team as well   Joe Mordica is not part of ION team in any way or even i'd be running a mile Remember all the other services for xpy that garza wasn't part of and didn't own either that they said. I think this close work collegue thing is another red flag. Whos to say he doesn't contribute or work as an unnamed benefactor in the background? You can 100% promise and say he in no way at present communicates or is involved with adam? I asked the question and was given direct answer that Joe Mordica is not involved in ION / Ionomy / coin / platform development in any way at all. Who gave you the direct answer that Joe Mordica is not involved in any way? And is this person a user of the ionomy username. This question seems to continue getting side stepped and even you don't want to pose this question to them by the sounds of it.. is the anonymity of this handle something that builds trust? Because you state trust is important. I asked the question in Slack and that was the answer I got, more than that what else can I say. If the "Ionomy" account will clarify this issue then at least we can all know definitively. What is your opinion on how this works for their trustability if they refuse to identify who uses ionomy account use or the other people working with the project, i mean for transparency and trust? Please include if you think this still makes them trust worthy of if it reduces trust level and if you can see that this becomes another red flag? |
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adam matlack closely works with joe mordica the famous GAW CTO who knew he was selling air & negotiated power deal with MS power in his home town. who knows maybe joe is part of ION team as well Joe Mordica is not part of ION team in any way or even i'd be running a mile Remember all the other services for xpy that garza wasn't part of and didn't own either that they said. I think this close work collegue thing is another red flag. Whos to say he doesn't contribute or work as an unnamed benefactor in the background? You can 100% promise and say he in no way at present communicates or is involved with adam? I asked the question and was given direct answer that Joe Mordica is not involved in ION / Ionomy / coin / platform development in any way at all. Who gave you the direct answer that Joe Mordica is not involved in any way? And is this person a user of the ionomy username. This question seems to continue getting side stepped and even you don't want to pose this question to them by the sounds of it.. is the anonymity of this handle something that builds trust? Because you state trust is important. |
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adam matlack closely works with joe mordica the famous GAW CTO who knew he was selling air & negotiated power deal with MS power in his home town. who knows maybe joe is part of ION team as well Joe Mordica is not part of ION team in any way or even i'd be running a mile Remember all the other services for xpy that garza wasn't part of and didn't own either that they said. I think this close work collegue thing is another red flag. Whos to say he doesn't contribute or work as an unnamed benefactor in the background? You can 100% promise and say he in no way at present communicates or is involved with adam? All 3 listed people in the whitepaper Adam Matlack adam@ionomy.com Michael Pfeiffer michael@ionomy.com Richard Nelson richard@ionomy.com All are on the instrumental for releases notes for paycoin under paycoin foundation. https://github.com/PaycoinFoundation/paycoin/releasescode commits are from a variety of people but none of these. Ionomy website doesn't list these so there is a lot of unknown actors. Being not listed people don't know who they are dealing with other than Adam Matlack, close business friend (as listed above in the picture statement) of Joe Mordica who lied with intent on the black dark room miners and knew he was photoshopped in fake warehouse picture. He also worked the code from what i remember on zen cloud in some capacity and could be involved in the ionomy website. His lack of reporting and keeping the scam going cost many many people money (Joe that is). The company you keep and continue to keep is a reflection on yourself if you maintain that connection. |
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Funny old world....I got this email today..
Registering a Singapore Company
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Benefits of a Singapore Company
Singapore is recognised as one of the top financial centres of Asia if not the world but why should you consider setting up a business there?
International entrepreneurs, corporations and indeed businesses of all sizes consider Singapore as a great location to setup their business for a number of reasons:
• Singapore is ranked by Forbes as the third richest nation in the world;
• It is the most politically stable country in Asia;
• The labour force is highly educated;
• Corporate taxes are low and indeed are zero on profits earnt abroad;
• There are no capital gains, inheritance or dividend taxes.
A company takes up to 5 days to incorporate, two directors are required one of whom has to be resident in Singapore, you also require a company secretary and a local registered office.
These requirements mean that Singapore is never going to be the cheapest jurisdiction in which to incorporate but they do ensure that the company has a local footprint in an international finance centre of high repute.
The banking sector are keen to provide services and we have a network of suppliers that we are able to recommend and introduce to you often without the requirement to visit Singapore.
The bit I've highlighted... That's interesting...more so because it poses more questions, rather than answers So the question now is who is the second director... where is the office and how are they funding this and a secretary. That information says its not the cheapest in which to incorporate and start but bonuses on capital gains profits etc... If they all lost money and are pretty broke where is it coming from. The 3 listed on ionomy are not singapore residents. You're right it does pose more questions if those are indeed the requirements to incorporate in singapore. Im intrigued also by the "5 days" to incorporate.. this could be the delay on giving the details as it wasn't done when they said it was. |
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I think it is a lot about how to not turn this into nightmare, questions have to be replied, maybe not so much by mrcoins and more by ionomy officials or those who wrote this whitepaper (i miss paul, he would post now an nice pic of an owl ), as far as I can read, mrcoins has not a lot do it with these points like company registration ... , correct me if I am wrong. We still don't know who ionomy is. They won't say when asked on slack or here. At least Mr Ceo identified himself as Josh Garza you knew who you were dealing with. There are 3 names on their whitepaper. I would assume they are officials now, why would their name be on whitepaper? I am not sure what you reffer to, do you ask me if I knew who ganza is or if I dealt with him ? Did you know who you deal with? Have you been customer of JG? I meant ionomy claims they are upfront, trustable and want the project to suceed BUT they won't answer this simple question. Josh Garza was a scammer but he was behind the GAW CEO handle and everyone knew it. Ionomy refuses to state to everyone who uses the handle. I believe the only reason for this is to be unaccountable to their statements and later can deny a particular member said it. |
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I'd like to find answers and to discuss the merits of the model and other potential problems. But, I just keep getting trolled about GAW.
Well, if the answers were forthcoming there'd be a lot less of what you call "trolling". As it stands, you seem to be their most vocal mouth piece at this time. Maybe if they stepped up to the plate and helped reassure people that they were on the up and up then there'd be more constructive conversation. So far all the responses from ionomy and the xpy community members who have posted here have managed to do is create an atmosphere of distrust. I have a lot more questions than I have answers, i'm just not getting to ask them. There should be an atmosphere of distrust. This is a new crypto launch, high risk at the best of times. If people come attacking calling "scam, scam" then that defines the general dialogue, people under attack go on the defence and . . . well you know how it goes. Hopefully we can break this cycle and get some constructive discussion going. Hopefully ionomy can come here and say who uses the handle so there is a level of trust... who is ionomy and who uses the handle. |
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I think it is a lot about how to not turn this into nightmare, questions have to be replied, maybe not so much by mrcoins and more by ionomy officials or those who wrote this whitepaper (i miss paul, he would post now an nice pic of an owl ), as far as I can read, mrcoins has not a lot do it with these points like company registration ... , correct me if I am wrong. We still don't know who ionomy is. They won't say when asked on slack or here. At least Mr Ceo identified himself as Josh Garza you knew who you were dealing with. |
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I asked a valid polite question. Is the finra disciplinary action link from the finra site accurate? I also asked the person owning the handle thats being acused on the chantua name to comment if the disciplinary action is correct or not. I don't believe this to be trolling as its a valid question based on teh supplied link from the official finra site.
Answer is here Crypto-city is a safe harbor from trolls I read the first 2 pages and the main topic. Stuff about safe harbour from trolls, gleb spreading misinformation and the like. Can you direct me to the post about the finra accusation? I might be missing it but i didn't see anything relating to the question i asked. Just a blanket statement about trolls. Im asking a genuine question regarding the finra stuff for chanta (name spelling sorry) getting disciplinary action as per the finra site. Is this correct or not correct? |
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Is the above correct on the fradulent recommendations of buying securities without due dilligence. Refresh my memory on who Chantua is on this forum i.e. the username and can that username comment on that posting of information into its validity?
There is still hope for you. You haven't fallen enough to become a full-on troll yet. Do your own research and actually read. Think for yourself. If you go full-troll there's no turning back. Again, you can always refer to this: Crypto-city I asked a valid polite question. Is the finra disciplinary action link from the finra site accurate? I also asked the person owning the handle thats being acused on the chantua name to comment if the disciplinary action is correct or not. I don't believe this to be trolling as its a valid question based on teh supplied link from the official finra site. |
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You stupid motherfuckin' son of a bitch! ... Now, you're asking for "We are currently accepting community manager requests" while blocking folks from accessing your site. ... not realizing that I'm still able to access both your sites via Tor.
Oh, and it gets better. Because of your stance, others close to you are now being investigated, e.g., two gals in Georgia closely related to the Cryptsy scam, one of which you went to high school with. I'd say you won't be getting future March 8th birthday presents from them thanks to your stance. Again, you're a fuckin' genius!
I'll close with the following post, making sure that I don't post consecutively so that you won't have a reason to bother the mods again, you asshole.
Not people, just scammy trolls like you. Yeah. Good luck with that. Trolls don't qualify as community managers. Let me elaborate, according to dictionary.com: So let me get this straight. To qualify for this community manager thing one needs to have a record of bankruptcy and securities fraud? Is a scammy kickstarter also a requirement? Is the above correct on the fradulent recommendations of buying securities without due dilligence. Refresh my memory on who Chantua is on this forum i.e. the username and can that username comment on that posting of information into its validity? |
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so i guess their slack is also slowly breeding contempt and cesspit talk?
That was always going to happen, there was some talk earlier in the thread about breaking down the "Us vs Them" mentality, but they were always going to resort to standard form the moment someone questioned their latest iteration of the XPY debacle. But why post images of Joe Mordica with Josh Garza and then claim it's Adam Matlack? There shouldn't be a need to make up lies. This creates the "them" and "us" when these dishonest tactics are used. Didn't you guys learn ANYTHING? Lying to support your claims invalidates anything useful you might have to say. Who in their right mind would listen to people who are willing to LIE to get their point across? Considering all you've done so far is try and evade every straight question which was put to the ionomy team I'm surprised you haven't slunk off somewhere quiet yet. Whoever it was who made the mistake about the person in that photo made an honest mistake and apologised or doing so. But again, you quote me and then dodge what I said by talking about something else entirely. You've all been far less than honest so far, so let's keep one thing in mind. Whoever is running the ionomy account claimed there was a company, registered in Singapore, called IONOMY PTE.... THIS WAS A LIE! Honestly, you're becoming like a bad joke now...aren't you even slightly embarrassed? There's a big difference between a LIE and a MISTAKE. Intent. Whoever posted the pic and claimed it was matlock made a mistake, with no obvious intent... Whoever runs the ionomy account here claimed the business was registered in Singapore when it isn't & lied...they intended to lie to get people to throw money into this new scheme... Congrats on making another non point... Finally some sense starts to shine through. To Ionony / TeamION: Can we have the company registration detail as claimed so that we may complete our research on this particular detail? Any delay is causing an expected amount of suspicion. The sooner we can have this, the better. Can you also append this to request that ionomy identifies who uses the handle AND start appending their posts with -adam matlack or who the user is making the statements on behalf of the account. It is raising suspicon of an unknown actor making statements. I think this is fair. They already increase suspicion by delaying burning about 5M XPY from ION-XPY swap. To increase transparency, they have to burn the rest as soon as they can. If the swap was legit and real, there is no reason to delay. isn't it? Thats my next question. Please identify the address where all the premine sits. This is for transparency to ensure on launch it isn't used to make hundreds of masternodes to ensure more profiting of the dev team with a high initial supply. Unless ionomy wants to go on record stating the intention is to make a lot of masternodes for this purpose. 50% reward given to masternodes? Thats a lot of early quick coins. Secondly why isn't a trusted group given control over the premine with multisig addresses and funds released when goals and payments due? Bitcrystals does this with Erik of shapeshift as one of the multisig owners. It would have ot be trusted people with no past tie or involvement with xpy, gaw or current ion. You cannot escrow for yourself as escrow is by definition a neutral third party. |
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so i guess their slack is also slowly breeding contempt and cesspit talk?
That was always going to happen, there was some talk earlier in the thread about breaking down the "Us vs Them" mentality, but they were always going to resort to standard form the moment someone questioned their latest iteration of the XPY debacle. But why post images of Joe Mordica with Josh Garza and then claim it's Adam Matlack? There shouldn't be a need to make up lies. This creates the "them" and "us" when these dishonest tactics are used. Didn't you guys learn ANYTHING? Lying to support your claims invalidates anything useful you might have to say. Who in their right mind would listen to people who are willing to LIE to get their point across? Considering all you've done so far is try and evade every straight question which was put to the ionomy team I'm surprised you haven't slunk off somewhere quiet yet. Whoever it was who made the mistake about the person in that photo made an honest mistake and apologised or doing so. But again, you quote me and then dodge what I said by talking about something else entirely. You've all been far less than honest so far, so let's keep one thing in mind. Whoever is running the ionomy account claimed there was a company, registered in Singapore, called IONOMY PTE.... THIS WAS A LIE! Honestly, you're becoming like a bad joke now...aren't you even slightly embarrassed? There's a big difference between a LIE and a MISTAKE. Intent. Whoever posted the pic and claimed it was matlock made a mistake, with no obvious intent... Whoever runs the ionomy account here claimed the business was registered in Singapore when it isn't & lied...they intended to lie to get people to throw money into this new scheme... Congrats on making another non point... Finally some sense starts to shine through. To Ionony / TeamION: Can we have the company registration detail as claimed so that we may complete our research on this particular detail? Any delay is causing an expected amount of suspicion. The sooner we can have this, the better. Can you also append this to request that ionomy identifies who uses the handle AND start appending their posts with -adam matlack or who the user is making the statements on behalf of the account. It is raising suspicon of an unknown actor making statements. I think this is fair. |
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so i guess their slack is also slowly breeding contempt and cesspit talk?
That was always going to happen, there was some talk earlier in the thread about breaking down the "Us vs Them" mentality, but they were always going to resort to standard form the moment someone questioned their latest iteration of the XPY debacle. But why post images of Joe Mordica with Josh Garza and then claim it's Adam Matlack? There shouldn't be a need to make up lies. This creates the "them" and "us" when these dishonest tactics are used. Didn't you guys learn ANYTHING? Lying to support your claims invalidates anything useful you might have to say. Who in their right mind would listen to people who are willing to LIE to get their point across? Considering all you've done so far is try and evade every straight question which was put to the ionomy team I'm surprised you haven't slunk off somewhere quiet yet. Whoever it was who made the mistake about the person in that photo made an honest mistake and apologised or doing so. But again, you quote me and then dodge what I said by talking about something else entirely. You've all been far less than honest so far, so let's keep one thing in mind. Whoever is running the ionomy account claimed there was a company, registered in Singapore, called IONOMY PTE.... THIS WAS A LIE! Honestly, you're becoming like a bad joke now...aren't you even slightly embarrassed? There's a big difference between a LIE and a MISTAKE. Intent. Didn't you guys learn ANYTHING? Lying to support your claims invalidates anything useful you might have to say.
Who in their right mind would listen to people who are willing to LIE to get their point across?
Mr coins that makes no sense... lets dissect it. - if someone here makes an mistake its considered intent and a lie. - if ionomy makes a mistake its an honest mistake and not intent. Ionomy account said it "is" registered. Said they would provide information. Didn't come back and its not registered as stated. - by your above reasoning since ionomy should know their own business is that not intent. Do you say you registered your company but then forget you didn't? Franzl that posted that picture "didn't make it" the statement was made without knowledge of the person unless there is indication in a past post showing he willing knows that in that picture joe is joe then makes deliberate future posts pretending not so. The other difference IS Franzl then corrected themselves after people "here" and i stress "here" corrected them. See we correct our own! Franzl then corrected and said they were mistaken. I haven't seen ionomy come here and correct themselves to set the record straight saying o sorry we aren't registered im "adam matlack" using this handle and "insert other ionomy account user here" was the one that was doing the registering. Its going to be interesting seeing this name change registration... my money is on the dates showing that the name was expressed to change after someone here corrected them and pointed it out. Again wrapping up. Franzl doesn't know someone elses business and was mistaken and corrected. Ionomy knows their business stated a falacy and haven't corrected. By your reasoning that is intent by ionomy. |
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I think it will be a self fulfilling prophecy, everyone expects it to rise so everyone will buy making it rise (in the short term)
Hence why im going both ways. saving btc and splitting it. Sell half i save now.. spend other half getting alts if they go cheap. Hopefully one way or another it evens out for me. But then again i could win both ways or get screwed both ways. Btc may drop and alts increase heh |
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So tl;dr, what's the connection between XPY and ION and/or Garza (if any)?
Gawtards who lost money or were part of the paycorn scam are doing it all over again to the same gawtards i still want my raygun as a gift from homero purchased through amazon partnership. Maybe i should give up and instead get an ion gun? What do you think bitpop. ion gun might be a feature in whitepaper? Well ion will soon be sec approved so ion gun manufacturers will be on board Maybe i should go the next model up and get the ion cannon? |
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