Jeez man is every post of yours so bloody aggresive. Isn't the point of a currency to be spent sold bought. You come off all angry like when someone sells or doesn't do it at the level YOU deem worthy. You need to settle down do your part and let sellers and buyers be who they are... you know cause thats what a free market does? I didn't know what you actually wanted was a centralised authorative coin that tells people at what rate they can and cannot sell / buy. You think I'm aggressive, look at you going on with your bad self. I believe that you've spouted this central authority nonsense before. Somehow how you think it deserves repeating? Anyway, I have no power of what price someone sells their coins. Just like everybody else I have an opinion over whether the current bid/ask is over or under valued. This is generally how trader gages whether it's time to buy or sell. I remember you in the crypty scam accusation thread offering to buy peoples crypsty debt at some low price. You go on in other posts about parasites and mingers or whatever you call them but what you did in the cryptsy thread was become a parasite vulture yourself hoping to prey or benefit on others. I think you need to settle down and stop being so aggresive on market trends. Its not your place to call people clowns and other things when a sell or buy doesn't do what you want it to. You have coins yourself and free will so you can choose yourself to... or would it be a different standard yourself when you decide to sell or buy? I mean opinions and free speech is your right but you come off as sour grapes and aggressive all the bloody time... sheesh. One minute you are saying richlist #1 is going to get away and you're happy its holding... next minute you're pissed they sell a bit. Grow up.
There is nothing wrong with offering to buy a distressed asset. In fact, it would have turned out to be a good offer considering those cryptsy BTC is worth nothing now. Sorry you don't deem that kind of offer worthy. Maybe you think I was forcing cryptsy's customers for take 6.5% for their CBTC. Anyway, call me a vulture. It really doesn't bother me at all. As for the guy in the #1 spot, it's perfectly valid to watch for when those top accounts move coins as a possible indication of when a potential sell is coming. Any transaction moving >5m into that exchange tells me that a buyer may get a better price if they wait. If I see someone move 35m to bittrex and the best available bid maybe shows 10 - 20m, I would put a order behind those bids and look to capture some of that 35m at a discount should that user again dump a huge block like that at in one huge sell. As for calling people clowns, it seems a bit fitting to call that guy that sold the 35m a clown. He wasn't exactly behaving like a skilled trader when he moved those coins to bittrex, littered them all over the sell side for a few days, and then dumped them in heavy handed fashion in a few large sell orders. He's likely an emotional trader, possibly he's run out of patience in holding, or he is in some sort of situation that necessitated him raising some BTC quickly. Either wya, I would definitely monitor his activity and try to profit from it in the future. He's basically walking around with a huge chalk mark on his back now. It's not any different than playing poker with someone that shows you his cards and bets fast and loose. He'll likely continue that behavior to his own detriment, but hey that's his choice. You do realise right that when a coin becomes more spread i.e. a seller distributes their higher percentage to a lower percentage buyer it means coins are better spread which is better right?
I must say that I would have to classify that statement as very close to if not completely nonsense. The distribution of coins is pretty much irrelevant with this coin. Buying demand is very weak and speculative at best. IMO no one buyer controls enough coins to bring the price up by forcefully reducing liquidity. To others im looking forward to the POS change. Might bring something to this hyper inflated coin but realistically it doesn't have anything over other pos coins other than its rate. The demand isn't there on daily volume and price is shrinking.. without actual use cases and work it'll go lower. Holding doesn't make a coin valuable if you just fork the source and change a var... a shitty leaf icon and name sprouts won't do it either... utility and use does. And NO a casion, dice site or some other faucet bullshit isn't utility.
I'd expect a bit of hoarding and possible run up followed by a violent sell off right before a decrease in the POS reward change kicks in. Hopefully Milly will decrease the POS reward slowly over a period of time so that a potential sell of may be better absorbed. This coin isn't used anywhere. So it's utility is currently 0 unless you make some sort of personal trade with someone else for something. It's only of interest to those who wish to mine without the need for physical mining hardware and those who wish to speculate that the current price reflects an oversold situation that may become more profitable in the near future when the market recovers from the craptsy effect. To increase the market cap, the coin could benefit from milly launching his new wallet, maybe getting on a few more exchanges, and bringing in a few more new coin owners who are desire staking more for the long run. So the coin has 0 utility and has no use other than to those who mine but you speculated 60 sat in 30 days and 150 plus... how is that so? Your views are contradicting each other. Everything i read you say seems to indicate you expressing displeasure when coins you're invested in don't go the way you want them. Im amused you don't just trade. Honestly with sprouts atm and my holding of 20m im considering selling them off here and there. Not in spite but holy shit if i can become cost neutral on it then make some smaller profit or any profit i consider it a good thing. Would you consider that a good thing as well or bad because im going against your ecosystem and personal profits. Dangle the $$$ carrot for casino coin in front of you im sure you'd hold all yours if it went to your $1 each coin you say. Cause well if you sell or dump in batches you're a clown right? FFS its business and everyone selling does for a reason. I suspect everyone in crypto is in it for money not the love of a stupid altcoin. Its speculation... if a coin makes mainstream it might be beneficial yeah but in the end everyone wants that sweet btc increase. And as to your vulture offer yes you were trying to force or advertise it. You could of started a new topic but instead you post it in the cryptsy scam topic where the majority of traffic is hence the more likely responses you get. Whether you profited or not its a vulture move. Thats fine if thats your take and i congrats it on business saviness... but to call people that sell coins parasites and mingers on two topics then reverse and justify a vulture parasite buy is hypocritical. If you can't see the similarities between the two then you are tunnel visioned. I think you just get pissed when values go down against your control. Else you'd take that opportunity to make profit on cheap sells instead of ranting to others. I have no doubt you'll continue this trend. do u want to sell your 20M, just pm me. i can buy. offer per sprout ? and how you want to do this so neither gets screwed  |
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Jeez man is every post of yours so bloody aggresive. Isn't the point of a currency to be spent sold bought. You come off all angry like when someone sells or doesn't do it at the level YOU deem worthy. You need to settle down do your part and let sellers and buyers be who they are... you know cause thats what a free market does? I didn't know what you actually wanted was a centralised authorative coin that tells people at what rate they can and cannot sell / buy. You think I'm aggressive, look at you going on with your bad self. I believe that you've spouted this central authority nonsense before. Somehow how you think it deserves repeating? Anyway, I have no power of what price someone sells their coins. Just like everybody else I have an opinion over whether the current bid/ask is over or under valued. This is generally how trader gages whether it's time to buy or sell. I remember you in the crypty scam accusation thread offering to buy peoples crypsty debt at some low price. You go on in other posts about parasites and mingers or whatever you call them but what you did in the cryptsy thread was become a parasite vulture yourself hoping to prey or benefit on others. I think you need to settle down and stop being so aggresive on market trends. Its not your place to call people clowns and other things when a sell or buy doesn't do what you want it to. You have coins yourself and free will so you can choose yourself to... or would it be a different standard yourself when you decide to sell or buy? I mean opinions and free speech is your right but you come off as sour grapes and aggressive all the bloody time... sheesh. One minute you are saying richlist #1 is going to get away and you're happy its holding... next minute you're pissed they sell a bit. Grow up.
There is nothing wrong with offering to buy a distressed asset. In fact, it would have turned out to be a good offer considering those cryptsy BTC is worth nothing now. Sorry you don't deem that kind of offer worthy. Maybe you think I was forcing cryptsy's customers for take 6.5% for their CBTC. Anyway, call me a vulture. It really doesn't bother me at all. As for the guy in the #1 spot, it's perfectly valid to watch for when those top accounts move coins as a possible indication of when a potential sell is coming. Any transaction moving >5m into that exchange tells me that a buyer may get a better price if they wait. If I see someone move 35m to bittrex and the best available bid maybe shows 10 - 20m, I would put a order behind those bids and look to capture some of that 35m at a discount should that user again dump a huge block like that at in one huge sell. As for calling people clowns, it seems a bit fitting to call that guy that sold the 35m a clown. He wasn't exactly behaving like a skilled trader when he moved those coins to bittrex, littered them all over the sell side for a few days, and then dumped them in heavy handed fashion in a few large sell orders. He's likely an emotional trader, possibly he's run out of patience in holding, or he is in some sort of situation that necessitated him raising some BTC quickly. Either wya, I would definitely monitor his activity and try to profit from it in the future. He's basically walking around with a huge chalk mark on his back now. It's not any different than playing poker with someone that shows you his cards and bets fast and loose. He'll likely continue that behavior to his own detriment, but hey that's his choice. You do realise right that when a coin becomes more spread i.e. a seller distributes their higher percentage to a lower percentage buyer it means coins are better spread which is better right?
I must say that I would have to classify that statement as very close to if not completely nonsense. The distribution of coins is pretty much irrelevant with this coin. Buying demand is very weak and speculative at best. IMO no one buyer controls enough coins to bring the price up by forcefully reducing liquidity. To others im looking forward to the POS change. Might bring something to this hyper inflated coin but realistically it doesn't have anything over other pos coins other than its rate. The demand isn't there on daily volume and price is shrinking.. without actual use cases and work it'll go lower. Holding doesn't make a coin valuable if you just fork the source and change a var... a shitty leaf icon and name sprouts won't do it either... utility and use does. And NO a casion, dice site or some other faucet bullshit isn't utility.
I'd expect a bit of hoarding and possible run up followed by a violent sell off right before a decrease in the POS reward change kicks in. Hopefully Milly will decrease the POS reward slowly over a period of time so that a potential sell of may be better absorbed. This coin isn't used anywhere. So it's utility is currently 0 unless you make some sort of personal trade with someone else for something. It's only of interest to those who wish to mine without the need for physical mining hardware and those who wish to speculate that the current price reflects an oversold situation that may become more profitable in the near future when the market recovers from the craptsy effect. To increase the market cap, the coin could benefit from milly launching his new wallet, maybe getting on a few more exchanges, and bringing in a few more new coin owners who are desire staking more for the long run. So the coin has 0 utility and has no use other than to those who mine but you speculated 60 sat in 30 days and 150 plus... how is that so? Your views are contradicting each other. Everything i read you say seems to indicate you expressing displeasure when coins you're invested in don't go the way you want them. Im amused you don't just trade. Honestly with sprouts atm and my holding of 20m im considering selling them off here and there. Not in spite but holy shit if i can become cost neutral on it then make some smaller profit or any profit i consider it a good thing. Would you consider that a good thing as well or bad because im going against your ecosystem and personal profits. Dangle the $$$ carrot for casino coin in front of you im sure you'd hold all yours if it went to your $1 each coin you say. Cause well if you sell or dump in batches you're a clown right? FFS its business and everyone selling does for a reason. I suspect everyone in crypto is in it for money not the love of a stupid altcoin. Its speculation... if a coin makes mainstream it might be beneficial yeah but in the end everyone wants that sweet btc increase. And as to your vulture offer yes you were trying to force or advertise it. You could of started a new topic but instead you post it in the cryptsy scam topic where the majority of traffic is hence the more likely responses you get. Whether you profited or not its a vulture move. Thats fine if thats your take and i congrats it on business saviness... but to call people that sell coins parasites and mingers on two topics then reverse and justify a vulture parasite buy is hypocritical. If you can't see the similarities between the two then you are tunnel visioned. I think you just get pissed when values go down against your control. Else you'd take that opportunity to make profit on cheap sells instead of ranting to others. I have no doubt you'll continue this trend. |
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It may be, but it is also true. And of course a reasonable discussion is possible, but only after you admit that you actively participated in the XPY scam and now are actively participating in the ION scam. Until then, everything that comes from your mouth is either sh.i or diarrhea (including the part "I will only answer in another thread, on another forum, in another life, etc etc").
P.s. I'm willing to bet that you will spill more sh.t because the logic is correct and it's impossible to turn shit in anything else.
I can help a little, at the risk of repeating myself... 1) I actively participated in XPY as an investor. It turned out to be a scam. JG scammed me of ~300 BTC. 2) The other project (see other thread) I believe is not proven to be anything yet. 3) You lost your bet @Mrcoins HOLY FUCK you sent 300btc josh garzas way in paycoin... thats at the time around $105,000 USD. Didn't you consider that what people were saying might be true.. a google of paycoin and target would of shown no other news on sites. I sure hope you aren't married with kids etc as that endangered them. How did you explain that all to the family if so.... |
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What makes you think Mordica is involved?
He's the guy posing with Garza in a picture of a warehouse pretending that it's a mining farm. @Mrcoins You didn't address this and its a direct question. Remember mordica was the guy that did their hardware... and TADA he stood with garza pretending there was hardware when there wasn't even in a dark warehouse video... queue spooky music remember that? and the this is my house paint in pink he proclaimed? So heres 2 simple questions you can answer and don't avoid them 1. Do you believe Joe Mordica to be a stand up honest guy you can trust in crypto? 2. If Joe Mordica is in ion then do you believe by past actions that he is trustable in it and thus others should accept that? |
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This is in response to what someone asked me on the forum where this information was being discussed. If I was tweeting / promoting / pushing i'd understand... But, i'm not. Like I said, I have to be careful as I am a target for "set up" questions.
You will not find anything outside of the direct question I was asked. No tweets, no blog posts, no recommendations.
I said I see it as shrilling. That is a fact. I don't think I'm the only one here. You shrilled for XPY and now you shrill for ION. Of course you are entitled to your opinion. Do you also agree then that I shill for BTC? "For what it's worth... I see #bitcoin going UP within a week or two. An eventual break above 450 opens up the skies" https://twitter.com/CryptoDabbler/status/718820256391802885My twitter reaches thousands of people. If you can show my promotion that should be removed, I will remove it. Yes i see it as shilling for bitcoin. Difference is bitcoin was the first. It was a technology created to address a need. The creators coins in genesis blocks etc haven't moved. Its a curency adopted by many open sourced and not centralised as per stakers like garza etc. The difference is bitcoin is free market based on peoples faith of it... its perceived value on what people believe though the original ideal had no promises of being this or that no more or less than just a currency. Xpy promised floors, it promised deals with amazon etc.. people countered that you called them fudders. XPY promised... bitcoin never did. When you shill you promote the creators promises.. see the link. You shilled for xpy you promote promises of $20 etc. You shill bitcoin you promote promises of nothing because nothing was promised. Ion promises all this bullshit game platform and 20c base value on ico... sorry iso don't want to get mixed up with garza right? change that letter. If they believed in their tech and vision those assholes in ion would make it pow initial phase so its fair and then pos from then on if they believe mining is dead... what do they do instead? Ask you to give them money to buy in. They did nothing for xpy so ion is different how? Its the usual bullshit of its going to do this and that we provide the vision but hey fuck it the community will make the value and content. I'll fork a coin call it supermarket coin say its for supermarket use and eventually it'll be the coin of supermarkets.. if i get enough shills maybe someone will make shopping cart apps that trade coin value for gift cards at coles, woolworths and target... fuck im a genius... see what these retards do? OR you could take any of the existing 1000000 alt coins make a game service and use that coin and do the same... whats the difference? You're falling into the same shit and hoping the new owners are better than the old. |
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MRCoins.
Ion is a scam.
I don't understand how you can't see that.
I have not tweeted my opinion on any coins other than ETH / BTC. If you find otherwise, please post the link so I can review and clear up any misunderstanding. I didn't say you had. On talkxpy you said you had sold all your xpy and bought ION. You do realize that the value of ION is no way near 2 million that you have bought in at 20 cents? All the devs have done have done is copy an existing clone and made a pretty website. You can see that right? I am not providing any investment advice here, but yes, I swapped my XPY (not sold, it was virtually worthless and not worth selling). I still had every single XPY as from the very start. It was very therapeutic to finally get rid of them. So you swapped your xpy to someone with you knowing its dead and a scam? Isn't that a little... well taking advantage of the buyer? |
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Jeez man is every post of yours so bloody aggresive. Isn't the point of a currency to be spent sold bought. You come off all angry like when someone sells or doesn't do it at the level YOU deem worthy. You need to settle down do your part and let sellers and buyers be who they are... you know cause thats what a free market does? I didn't know what you actually wanted was a centralised authorative coin that tells people at what rate they can and cannot sell / buy. I remember you in the crypty scam accusation thread offering to buy peoples crypsty debt at some low price. You go on in other posts about parasites and mingers or whatever you call them but what you did in the cryptsy thread was become a parasite vulture yourself hoping to prey or benefit on others. I think you need to settle down and stop being so aggresive on market trends. Its not your place to call people clowns and other things when a sell or buy doesn't do what you want it to. You have coins yourself and free will so you can choose yourself to... or would it be a different standard yourself when you decide to sell or buy? I mean opinions and free speech is your right but you come off as sour grapes and aggressive all the bloody time... sheesh. One minute you are saying richlist #1 is going to get away and you're happy its holding... next minute you're pissed they sell a bit. Grow up. You do realise right that when a coin becomes more spread i.e. a seller distributes their higher percentage to a lower percentage buyer it means coins are better spread which is better right? To others im looking forward to the POS change. Might bring something to this hyper inflated coin but realistically it doesn't have anything over other pos coins other than its rate. The demand isn't there on daily volume and price is shrinking.. without actual use cases and work it'll go lower. Holding doesn't make a coin valuable if you just fork the source and change a var... a shitty leaf icon and name sprouts won't do it either... utility and use does. And NO a casion, dice site or some other faucet bullshit isn't utility. |
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This is an update to my other thread that you can find here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1334082.msg13611990#msg13611990I have talked to Big Vern directly on twitter and I have contacted cryptsy by their email and ticket support system. Before I said I was looking to get 30% of the recovered funds as a bounty but now I have changed to a more fair 3/4 of profits. From bitcoin alone 13k btc was stolen and 10k belonged to customers so profit is 3k. 3/4 of 3k is 2,250 bitcoin so that would be my bounty from just bitcoin. This is a favorable deal for cryptsy because if I don't recover the coins they will have to file for bankruptcy and nobody will probably end up getting anything. With my 3/4 bounty Cryptsy is still left with 1/4 of the profits which they can use to continue working and making money. By taking my bounty as a profit instead of a straight percentage people that had their money in cryptsy won't be affected they will simply get their whole coins returned to them. As soon as Cryptsy finalizes and signs a contract I will be able to basically immediately get the coins back in the rightful owners hands. So if you are eager to get your coins back implore cryptsy to finalize the deal with Cryptcracker as soon as possible. If Cryptcracker is such a brilliant hacker, why didn't he know about the court order not allowing Paul Vernon to no longer conduct any official Cryptsy business since March 4, 2016? Of course we have the posts on Cryptsy's Twitter page: https://twitter.com/cryptsy/with_replies?lang=en The first was posted in the wee hours of a Sunday morning, and the second on a Saturday evening, perhaps designed to glean what this brilliant hacker knows. Now, we all know that them are some weird hours for a court appointed receiver et al. to work, but did you know that one could use a service to time Twitter posts from the comforts of one's office desk during normal business hours? I bet that the hacker didn't know that. HAHAHAIt's quite possible that the receiver has been playing your scammy ass if they do indeed have had control of all of Cryptsy's accounts since March, perhaps even creating Eternal Insolent to truly fuck with your scammy ass. Because he didn't know? His dispatches consist of information he gained from doing a bitcointalk search and piecing together like he found it. His stupid and pointless dispatch only came out cause cryptsy site was down and he wanted to try to claim that it was his work behind the scenes. He thought if he said that people would give him bounty money.. so funny. Cryptcracker is a douchebag and insolvent whatever the fuck they call themself are the same person. Its a lame attempt to scam the scammed people. I think cryptcracker is a bit pissed at you gleb since their comments seem to indicate nobody sent them money. Low life he is... thats about all he amounts to.... his next dispatch is after paul vernon is arrested saying how he helped and was instrumental in all this and needs money for prosecution.. just wait. Cryptcracker has actually shown no proof and if anything i suspect is a second rate conman from a country with english as a second language. |
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"We feel the Proof of Work (PoW) model is broken," said Mark' "We're seeing now with the large Bitcoin farms in China, the arms race has gotten to the point where mining is a zero sum game."
"By starting semi-centralized with ionomy.com"
Translation the proof of work model is broken because we don't have the funds available to get enough hashing power to make money. Therefore we feel its much better to control the supply ourselves and choose the stake rate whilst giving ourselves a premine. This model isn't broken (for us) as we make cash. Remember innovative does not make a coin. A coining be used by teh world.. that make a coin. I love how they say they feel the model is broken but don't say how or why. Its just they feel because they make no fuckin money. Mr Coins... are you taking note of this..? remember its round 2 and you have a chance this time to actually listen to it. These dicks actually offer nothing that isn't already in another coin. Ok so lets move from POW and go POS. They forked blackcoin or whatever coin.. so what benefit do they have over choosing the stake rate and what people get.... why not use an existing coin....? There needs to be a reason to make a new coin and changing a percent rate, icon, image etc isn't enough. Listen and stop being a sheep. |
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You don't have to give time true but i'm betting that you came here from comments against you to justify it so in a way you are giving time you feel you have to do.
Finally you answered 1 of 2 questions.
I suggest in future for all your twitter posts you start stating something to the extent of don't take this as investment advice. You could also add that you have been wrong in the past to ensure people don't take it 100% as promotion.
I like to post charts and my own Technical Analysis. Sometimes I am right, sometime I am wrong. Just like everyone else. Check out my recent twitter posts. I have learnt a lot. Anyone who takes investment advice from Twitter will lose. So people need to educate themselves or alternatively you have to get many hundreds (or thousands) of other twitter users to follow your advice also. Awesome.. make a twitter post stating that anyone that takes advice from twitter will lose. Also state on twitter people need to educate themselves. But of course one wouldn't do that on twitter would they? But when you want twitter followers you aren't going to state that aren't you... your advice and comments you want to gather followers with. fair call i'd say wouldnt you agree? |
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You gave him power... so therefore he is not 100% share of responsibility. The fact that you cannot accept that you played any part even in a small fraction just shows you cannot take any responsibility in any of your actions... o i didn't know i was going to get fat drinking 100 litres of cola a day its cokes fault with their advertising.. i thought i'd just be happy on the beach like in their ads so i told everyone else the same.
It's what scammers do. They use people, the steal from victims. He was a particularly clever scammer. I am not the only one who believed in the scam. My mistake cost me dearly. But don't make the mistake of thinking it makes him less of a criminal. He doesn't deserve that. He deserves no less than 100% full responsibility for his criminal intent. O and just to clarify he wasn't a particularly smart scammer. With his shit of amazon and target approved one needed to simply google xpy target paycoin target amazon paycoin amazon xpy to realise he was full of shit... or if you want to get technical cantor xpy cantor paycoin There was nothing on those searches that in any way indicated it.. and its 100m dollar bullshit. Josh wasn't clever. Greedy people like yourself wanted him to be right to jump the next huge bitcoin train. |
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You gave him power... so therefore he is not 100% share of responsibility. The fact that you cannot accept that you played any part even in a small fraction just shows you cannot take any responsibility in any of your actions... o i didn't know i was going to get fat drinking 100 litres of cola a day its cokes fault with their advertising.. i thought i'd just be happy on the beach like in their ads so i told everyone else the same.
It's what scammers do. They use people, the steal from victims. He was a particularly clever scammer. I am not the only one who believed in the scam. My mistake cost me dearly. But don't make the mistake of thinking it makes him less of a criminal. He doesn't deserve that. He deserves no less than 100% full responsibility for his criminal intent. I don't think him less of a criminal he is 100% a criminal. You evaded the questions yet again.. lets try again. 1. If someone comes and accuses ion of being the same, gives an explanation will you again out them as a fudder then if it goes the same state what you are now or would you give benefit of the doubt and give them right to speech and acknowledge. Mistakes are ok. It's what helps us grow and become wiser. We just have to try to make less of them as time goes on. 2. You share some responsibility for passing on and promoting or do you deny that. Pretty easy questions but you all seem hell bent on just moving the blame 100% and acting like lost sheep. I am giving you my time sincerely which of course I do not have to do. 1. I learnt a lot from my mistakes. It's what happens in life. I will not call anyone a FUDder. I have learnt to consider that they might be right. 2. I am responsible for my own BTC. Everyone else is responsible for theirs. I did not give anyone investment advice. Anyone who chose to follow me into my terrible investment did it through their own choice. If they do not blame themselves for it then they have learnt nothing from the experience. You don't have to give time true but i'm betting that you came here from comments against you to justify it so in a way you are giving time you feel you have to do. Finally you answered 1 of 2 questions. I suggest in future for all your twitter posts you start stating something to the extent of don't take this as investment advice. You could also add that you have been wrong in the past to ensure people don't take it 100% as promotion. |
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You gave him power... so therefore he is not 100% share of responsibility. The fact that you cannot accept that you played any part even in a small fraction just shows you cannot take any responsibility in any of your actions... o i didn't know i was going to get fat drinking 100 litres of cola a day its cokes fault with their advertising.. i thought i'd just be happy on the beach like in their ads so i told everyone else the same.
It's what scammers do. They use people, the steal from victims. He was a particularly clever scammer. I am not the only one who believed in the scam. My mistake cost me dearly. But don't make the mistake of thinking it makes him less of a criminal. He doesn't deserve that. He deserves no less than 100% full responsibility for his criminal intent. I don't think him less of a criminal he is 100% a criminal. You evaded the questions yet again.. lets try again. 1. If someone comes and accuses ion of being the same, gives an explanation will you again out them as a fudder then if it goes the same state what you are now or would you give benefit of the doubt and give them right to speech and acknowledge. 2. You share some responsibility for passing on and promoting or do you deny that. Pretty easy questions but you all seem hell bent on just moving the blame 100% and acting like lost sheep. |
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I was wrong. I paid for it. A lot of people were wrong. They paid for it.
Also just to note your comments do influence people.. thats why its social media. So you were wrong as well and "some other" people paid for it too. Its a responsibilitiy thing. I use social media like everyone else. I post/tweet/share what I am doing, just like everyone else. That's what social media generally is. To accept twitter users (and there were a lot of them) share the responsibility of JG really eases the load off JG. For me, JG is 100% responsible for his intent to steal. You gave him power... so therefore he is not 100% share of responsibility. The fact that you cannot accept that you played any part even in a small fraction just shows you cannot take any responsibility in any of your actions... o i didn't know i was going to get fat drinking 100 litres of cola a day its cokes fault with their advertising.. i thought i'd just be happy on the beach like in their ads so i told everyone else the same. |
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Just because I was wrong, and I lost a ton of money, that does not mean I have no right to speak.
I was wrong. I paid for it. A lot of people were wrong. They paid for it.
There is one person that has paid nothing yet. JG.
Well a lot of people were right but you constantly called them fudders and said they should be forum banned. Are you saying that in the future if someone makes such a statement that based on your past record then you probably should give them the benefit of doubt then and not call them fudders? Or are you saying call them fudders again and be wrong then say again say you made mistakes...? Im just curious. Im assuming you'd err on the side of caution and say the fudders aren't fudders anymore and their opinion should be considered.. i.e. on the ion forum if someone was to question it you'd support their right of comment without calling them a fudder? Is this correct? Unfortunately the communities became polarised and it almost became a war between who was right and who was wrong. Ego took over for many on both sides, many were left hoping they were right. I was one of those. An expensive lesson. Wtf its like ring around the rosy word games. That wasn't the question. The question was "If someone posted like they did on xpy paycoin talk whatever again saying it was just a full of shit coin and stated info would you again call them a fudder or give them the right of benefit of doubt and not call back on them" answer? Your last comment just danced around and said some shit about noise in a community and wars with right and wrong like you were trying to equalise and justify actions. No everyone chooses their side. Don't take this polarising crap when you make a comment you are commiting to it and have complete 100% accountability there is no but i did this because of this and there was that so its understandable i acted as i did. So again.. answer the above question no foreplay just get to the action and answer it succinctly. |
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I was wrong. I paid for it. A lot of people were wrong. They paid for it.
Also just to note your comments do influence people.. thats why its social media. So you were wrong as well and "some other" people paid for it too. Its a responsibilitiy thing. |
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Just because I was wrong, and I lost a ton of money, that does not mean I have no right to speak.
I was wrong. I paid for it. A lot of people were wrong. They paid for it.
There is one person that has paid nothing yet. JG.
Well a lot of people were right but you constantly called them fudders and said they should be forum banned. Are you saying that in the future if someone makes such a statement that based on your past record then you probably should give them the benefit of doubt then and not call them fudders? Or are you saying call them fudders again and be wrong then say again say you made mistakes...? Im just curious. Im assuming you'd err on the side of caution and say the fudders aren't fudders anymore and their opinion should be considered.. i.e. on the ion forum if someone was to question it you'd support their right of comment without calling them a fudder? Is this correct? and no you are wrong there is many people.... mordica, matlack all of team xpy that actually did nothing in dev time etc.. unless you think josh was the brains of it all hahaha and no others are guilty of anything |
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pretty sure that fuck-nut is now known as MriON. no joke  oh god these scams would be funny with out the human suffering part. i dont really care about the random "investor" who lost few months of pay but i draw the line at life savings of a dying person Scams are never funny. Not even if you were robbed of just $1. Losing $1 is ok, a pain, but it's ok. Investing and losing $1 is again ok, but disappointing. Being robbed of $1 is a crime. The amount doesn't matter, it's the intent that counts. I hope one day JG does see the inside of a courthouse and that justice is done. If you're the real mr-coins don't you think being so wrong you should just shut your mouth and watch future crypto just go by without your opinion? How many people did you call fudders and how many did you likely influence with your excitable crap and twitter messages like is paycoin on the verge of sec approval? Hint : Ionomy or whatever the fuck it is is the same old shit rehashed. Josh Garza or not replace the figurehead its the same shit. In your best interests i think you should fade back a little and not screw more people around. You were instrumental in your cries of fud and twitter messages. Ion is complete and utter a fuck up. Some shitty web games etc wow.. i don't promote voxels but at least they "appear" and i mean it loosely to be making something. Aside from that those ion loser should just make a gaming platform and use one of the many existing coins to integrate with it... dgb, hyper etc. They make a coin because they want control and to milk the morons more. If you can't see that then there is no hope. Use this opportunity to grow. |
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Great strategy! Handle the lawsuit for them so it never actually gets filed!
The best part is that ubershill MrCoins is literally posting "check out gawsuit.com for updates" ...even though it hasn't been updated in two months, and the last update in February was a rehash with no real progress because Shinners said people kept emailing him. Paul Revere laid it out months ago, but what Shinners is saying now condemns the gawsuit completely (even after leaving out Mordica). He's actually claiming that a "secret" law firm has agreed to take this case on a contingency basis, a case in which they are solely relying on Shinner for everything. This is not how things actually work. No law firm is ever going to show up in court with a stack of affidavits all provided by a single guy who has assiduously maintained a total separation between the lawyers and their actual clients. The rules about affidavits are somewhat lax and but what Shinners is doing here constitutes a clear-cut ethical violation. No reputable lawyer would even consider touching it, and less-than-reputable lawyers would insist on at least being paid first. That's before we get into the obvious fact that any law firm looking at this is going to conclude that the judgment will be unrecoverable. Shinners isn't remotely the only one suing Josh for his never-ending cons, and the claims that Shinners knows where the money is sounds like a tall-tale anyway. I don't know what the angle is, it simply might just be that Shinner is a gigantic blowhard convinced of his self-importance who made this all up to simply make himself feel powerful and respected after he lost a fortune with Josh, but this whole thing is a fake, whatever the reason. Shinner is posting "SoonTM" about the gawsuit! Doesn't anyone involved recognize that tactic, at this point? Shimmer's Bitlend.io is also shutting down. He's already farmed the growing crops now he's off to harvest!!! Bitlend.io and xpy lawsuit got him plenty of personal info. Now he can go start his own scam... but don't worry its not his fault garza scammed him so he's just trying to get back even so totally justified. Remember shinners emails to garza about helping him out and the wage he wanted and his demands to work for garza haha shinners is an a-grade asshole too. He just thought he could outscam garza at his own game. The joke of it is that when you scam the less smart and sophisticated you are the more successful you are. Shinners is just a vulture picking the last few bits off the roadkill corpse. Not that im surprised.. all it takes to scam people is say nope im legit im going to do everything for everyone and if you stand against it you are just a fudder trying to hurt already ripped off people... im just here to do it out of the goodness of my heart because im such an altruistic kinda guy. Honestly the day he kept mordica out of it saying he's ok just was taken advantage of is the day everyone should of realised he was a crook too. Allen Shinners is a fuckin idiot... he thinks he's smart but honestly if you get scammed like he did then you clearly aren't that smart. Maybe he should give power of attorney to his 4 year old kid... so he doesn't screw the family finances up anymore He won't come back here and comment though. He's too embarrassed to admit he did nothing but shoot his mouth off. I think his gawsuit consisted of a couple of yahoo answers questions about who he can hire and calling some of those late night pro bono law agencries on tv to see what he could do. If he had any intelligence it'd be doing something now. As per usual though its the gov institutions that while slow will do the work needed. So when does season 1 of "Ganked like a Garza" start? i hear it starts with a pilot episode of josh in court acting like a brilliant cock |
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I think there is probably a lot more cryptsy staff we don't know about behind the scenes. The entire place doesn't just run and work with paul vernon for the wallets. He's guilty as hell but i think there are still some hidden cryptsy staff that worked with him you know managers, senior staff.
The mods on cryptsy and the ones we see are instrumental in keeping the scam going and they deserve all they get for the support the placed without checking themselves... and especially more so when they back pedalled and hid after the incident without a hint of remorse and apology.
However that said i think they were stupid scapegoats. They are to blame but i think the even worse arseholes are still hiding. See these new names coming out IT admin unix admin etc... these are people that would of worked with vern to steal shit but never had a name attached or finger pointed.
Maybe the rabbit hole goes much deeper.... maybe the cryptsy staff like horus, shockney etc need to start telling us the entire cryptsy staff list to piece this together more.
Not that they will... too worried about their own scaley hides. But comments like vern saying alerted to a breach etc... its a lie but it portrays that there were more than just 1 in the inner circle with the keys to the city..
the central wallet admins, paul their leader and the server admins i think are the real masterminds on this. Some i believe are now hiding hoping they won't get named.
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