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1681  Economy / Speculation / Re: Predictions if Bitcoin ETFs are approved on: December 07, 2018, 01:26:14 PM
SEC once again delayed the decision on whether to approve or reject the VanEck SolidX Bitcoin Trust!

https://coincodex.com/article/2721/sec-delays-decision-on-vaneck-solidx-btc-etf-sets-february-27-deadline-for-final-decision/

Well a lot of people are eager for an approval asap expecting it'll save the year for them but i wonder what's going to happen if it gets denied considering the state bitcoin's in right now.
1682  Economy / Speculation / Re: BTC Falling to mid 3K Will it go down more? on: December 07, 2018, 01:24:32 PM
Yes, I think we might reach $1500 by Christmas, and $700 by February.

You lost faith in crypto it seems, one thing you need to understand at the moment that is to wait patiently for few more days, panic is not an exact solution right now. I can understand the market is very ridiculous but what can we do more than holding? 

Ya it is true that he lost his control and started to think of bitcoin getting dead, but it is not true, it was last week itself kn owed that market may test the $3000 level and then it will bounce back. So it is very good time to start buying now.

I don't know how those people selling at this point expect anything good to come out of it. I mean, surely they've sold at a loss here. A lot of people probably lost faith already since 2018 is having a good kick in the nuts to end an extremely bearish year, but i'm still positive btc will go forward ni matter how low the price dips.
1683  Economy / Speculation / Re: Will the price of Bitcoin hit 12 to 13k end of this year? on: December 07, 2018, 01:19:57 PM
It is hard to predict price but bitcoin as a master can easy go to 12k buy end of this year. I am realistic and not romantic that where i see the price. What price you predict btc will be by end of year.

I think it is early to make any conclusions. Now it is difficult to understand how any cryptocurrency will behave in the end, as there were too many unexpected changes this year

The market's state isn't as bad as this when this thread was started hence the hopes of getting to those points. It's foolish to still believe we can get to even close to 10k with only a few weeks left.
1684  Economy / Speculation / Re: Can someone manipulate the price of bitcoin? on: December 07, 2018, 01:17:35 PM
At small time intervals, large holders can influence prices by selling a large number of coins on exchanges or vice versa, starting to buy Bitcoin en masse. But these actions cause only temporary price fluctuations. Somehow the manipulators of the market cannot change the law of the market itself, so if you count on long-term investments, then you should not worry about it. In addition, the really large holders themselves are not profitable by the long-term weakening of the Bitcoin course.
What do you think?


Anyone could manipulate the market performance of any investments either crypto or non crypto investments as long as they have huge financial resources at their disposals in which this price manipulation is already known for a long time and become normal in nature. Truly they will not benefits of this low market volume but we don't know if this is part of their plan or i'm afraid that more people in fear are now avoiding this investments because of these manipulations environment.

Well i think those people who have enough coins to manipulate the market are probably on observer mode right now looking where this could go. Their money would go a very long way if they can buy in bulk near the bottom. They might be looking at how long will people continue to be anxious about the market status.
1685  Economy / Speculation / Re: Are you ready to see another Xmas crash for 2018? on: December 07, 2018, 01:12:54 PM
Another dip is more likely will happen, I am now confessed more than before that the price will remain like this until at least Feb, there is still small chance that we can see a surprise Bullrun in December but it becomes less every day after the other. Well, I think we all know that it is not matter what we think or predict because Bitcoin will probably do the totally different thing.

Give it up for a bull run dude. I don't see any reason how that could happen unless whales decide to manipulate a pump, which is unlikely since they should've done so by now. Pin your hopes for next year 😇
1686  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Top Rank: Lomachenko vs. Pedraza - Prediction Thread on: December 06, 2018, 05:56:27 PM
Nah. For me lomachenko is undefeated and would surely end up the undisputed champ. His only loss was a fluke and redeeming for that twice only shows that he's on a different stage in this division.
1687  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2019 NBA Pre-Season on: December 06, 2018, 05:52:28 PM
Doncic has been playing like a true superstar from the beginning of his career. Dude literally plays like the best player in Dallas and he is just 19 years old on his rookie season. He never shakes when its an important point and doesn't shy away from big plays neither. I really believe this guy can become one of the best European players we had in our game and that says something huge considering we had so many amazing European people (even his team mate is all time great Dirk).

I think if he improves upon this play and puts more on top of it, he has a chance to be top 3 player in the league in 5 years or so time and stay around those levels for 10 years straight. Lets hope he doesn't get injured badly or start to not care about his training or something because it would be shame for that talent to go to waste.

Dallas seems to have a good knack at getting good players from europe. We're probably looking at the next dirk in the same uniform lol. Doncic for me would likely be the runaway for roy if ben simmons doesn't take it from him lol 🤣🤣🤣
1688  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Would you play at a casino where payments are delayed for days? Why? on: December 06, 2018, 05:47:55 PM
Ever since I gambled at cryptocurrency casino's that offered instant withdraws, I haven't used any other online casino that imposes 'reviews' on payouts.
I'm wondering if other people still play at online casinos where they have to wait for days before their withdraw is processed.

Why would you even play at such a casino?
They usually even encourage you to cancel your withdraw, to keep you playing. Seems somewhat manipulative to me... Why would anyone support that?

I don't know if anyone would. I mean, wouldn't that be shady in itself? Who in their right minds would gamble getting their payments from their gambling games? Lol
1689  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Who's The Loser Here? on: December 06, 2018, 05:40:31 PM
With the situation on ground, I'm  seeing Bitcoin at $3000 before the end of December. http://cryptoinfowatch.com/bitcoin-price-performance-show-november-as-the-worst-month-in-7-years/
For me,  the losers are those people who sell their bitcoin at this early stage. They do not believe to the potential of the bitcoin and it is the reason why they sell it. The market will now recover because there is now enough support.

Enough support? Btc keeps in breaking support after support dude if you haven't noticed lol. But i agree with you that you most of the time lose when you rid yourself of the chance to recover by selling low. Though not all of us can afford to wait that long that's the problem.
1690  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin should NOT determine the market on: December 06, 2018, 05:35:04 PM
Its should be but how can be this possible if the mentality of most of the crypto users are treating Bitcoin as the most promising and the most potential crypto in the market? Maybe Bitcoin will lose the power if there is major conspiracy that will happen just to crash Bitcoin and step up some Altcoin but this will involve a huge financial resources to make this possible.

For someone outside the crypto community, bitcoin is crypto. It can't be helped that btc's movements in a way influence the market as a whole. Bitcoin anyway, brought awareness to this market so i think that's understandable.
1691  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin and Organized Crime on: December 06, 2018, 05:29:32 PM
money and bitcoin can always be used as any tool, good or bad depending on the user. Like a knife, if you use it wisely, it will be useful.

It all depends on the user, one policy in using bitcoin is a positive thing. But there are still many people who use bitcoin and crypto for a fraud and enrich themselves, and all that goes back to the owner.
Even fiat is also used for illegal activities? so what exactly is the meaning of this thread? do you want to make a bad image about bitcoin? because this topic itself has become a public secret, everyone knows about this

Lol. Any thinking person wouldn't make a big deal out of this. Obviously what you can do with fiat, you can also do with bitcoin. Given btc's decentralized and anonymous nature, it gives illegal activities more options so why wouldn' they use it.
1692  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Things Obviously Are Not That Bad Because Whales Say So on: December 06, 2018, 05:24:50 PM
This is pretty typical of any market. Drops are being propped up as an opportunity to increase holdings for less money than normal. This isn't unique to crypto, and neither is it unique to whales. Everyone can accumulate.

But yeah, everyone keeps complaining about whales manipulating the market, but when they apparently manipulate it in their favor, it's fine lmao.

Lol. You got that right. I don't think whales would allow the market to be in such a condition where miners would think twice about mining btc or moving to other ventures. They can turn this around in a matter of days.
1693  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Where are the true believers of Bitcoin? on: December 06, 2018, 05:03:16 PM
Be patient in the face of a red market, don't panic all the time to get up. Hoping that next year the value of bitcoin will improve. Let's just say that currently bitcoin is being corrected and true investors will take advantage of this condition.
I agree with your opinion that you convey crypto currencies and true investors, true investors who are able to survive with all conditions with crypto currency confidence and patience are the main capital in investing

Well there still are quite many of us true believers here inspite of how the market acts. I think most of us just prefer to observe the situation or silently add little by little btcs to our bags. There still are a lot to be positive about you know.
1694  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Whose advice you take when it comes to Bitcoin? on: December 06, 2018, 04:36:52 PM
Some of my friend are known about bitcoin i heard that someone invest in it then earn a lot of money and change there life, but im not believ on it because idont know them if its true or just making story. I just believ on it when my brother buy a house and the reason is bitcoin. Thats now im hoping that someday ican buy my own too from the sake of bitcoin.
I take those advice that comes from my friend who was the reason why I knew and have bitcoin. Since they are the one who invited me here, and I see in their life the benefit that bitcoin gives to them. I believe that their advice was pretty much better than the advice that I get from the forum because some advice that I saw in the forum lead me before to lose my money.

The thing is we don't all have the same level of skill when it comes to handling investments. What works for your brother may not work for you. You have to find your own feel of the market though it's always useful to get assistsnce from people who've been there. Both successful and those that lost.
1695  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Yes We Believe in BTC even as the Price Falls on: December 06, 2018, 04:33:46 PM
bitcoin still has the best potential at this time, right now bitcoin is in the best position in cryptocurrents. this is only a matter of price and it can be minimized by investing in bitcoin so I think it's the best thing now to trust bitcoin when the price falls

Well in terms of potential, i think a lot of coins can actually match btc since many have proper uses like eth and waves who serve their own platforms. But i don't think this price drop defines bitcoin at all. Yes this probably is the lowest drop since the time that btc got significant but there are a lot of factors to believe that btc will again go back up
1696  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Destroyed me at all. on: December 06, 2018, 04:23:47 PM
Bitcoin really has great potential. At this point, we should not hurry. Those who are speculating about price have already asked for it. You can take it from high to panic. By doing this, you are actually losing your future chances.

Well not all people cam afford to hold out this extreme bear market. Many would've cashed out not because of panic but necessity. That's why you have to be sure you can afford these kind of scenarios before you make your first move.
1697  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Make Bitcoin Great Again on: December 06, 2018, 04:21:11 PM
I believe this. Bitcoin again recover. Just wait some days and wait for good time. I think bitcoin will most popular currency in crypto world and I hope one whole country will uses of bitcoin.
at least you have convinced the public that bitcoin is still fine, it will make good small changes so that people no longer panic, because what makes prices weaker is panic, if we want to make bitcoin great again then we must restore investor confidence in the market so that they want to buy again

That's the challenge this bear market brings. Investors have seen it go from 19k down to 3k in less than a year. Not always a good signal to present to investora eh? Though the factors are more than the price. Once people realize the potential of bitcoin and crypto to make change for the better, that's when we'll truly get these people's attention.
1698  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Even people in here now give up on Bitcoin on: December 06, 2018, 04:17:24 PM
You will see your post in the future and realize how incorrect you were. Most of the people here will not give up on bitcoin, in my opinion, the people of here are aware of the potential of bitcoin and have faith in bitcoin and crypto. This is why we all are still here!
I think we all have our own opinion based on the current market condition and we cannot force people to stay because for them,staying in this market means losing even more.But still i chose to stay knowing that this is just temporary.I have known bitcoin for so long and i know its potentials already.The price will surely rise up again in the perfect time.

Wrong place to look for people who don't believe in btc anymore. Most of us here are aware of how btc moves and though it may tick off a lot of people's patience, we're still optimistic of it's long term promise.
1699  Economy / Speculation / Re: "Buy the dip" is only a strategy for losers on: December 06, 2018, 04:13:51 PM
it is the most appropriate strategy for us. we will get a bitcoin at the lowest price level and we wait until the price rises again at the highest level. everyone must do something like that. we must be smart and intelligent in making decisions and must choose the moment to sell and buy.

Lol. Problem is we don't know until when this dip will be. I previously thought that we can't go lower than 5k so i bought at 5.5k. It's a sound strategy and definitely not for losers but for people who believe in what they're placing their money on. You just have to be a little smarter in determining positions.
1700  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why is there no marketing for BTC? on: December 06, 2018, 04:11:35 PM
There is actually a lot of advertising for bitcoin.  Wealthy people that invested in btc have bought ads,, I've seen them on different websites and videos.

The strongest advertising for BTC is through word of mouth and adoption.  This is a community driven project that really doesn't need the backing of billionaires.

That that's what drove btc's 2017 run. The more people hearing about the soaring btc value, the more people wanted to get it. And it's all over social media as well. It's probably just because of the current bear trend that we're not hearing and seeing that much about btc recently.
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