Good topic but you can't add percentages from two different sets of numbers together.

E.g., a 2pt gain from BTC10 is 20% and a 30pt gain from BTC300 is a 10%, but a 32pt gain from 310 isn't 30%, it's 10% (ish).

I don't recall when the seizure took place exactly, what's the USMS "cost basis" for when they acquired the coins?

A lot of researchers have posted surveys to the forum and I think a lot of forum members have participated. When you complete your research, please try to post it here for all of us to enjoy, learn from, and share with others.

If you spend some time reading the forum threads and asking questions you'll find a TON of knowledgeable people with a lot of different opinions. Good luck with your work!

This won't happen until your "regular" bank starts dealing in Bitcoin. The ATMs are owned/operated by banks. Give it some time and you might see some duality of currency BUT ATMs currently don't offer Pounds and Euros or Yen and Dollars so perhaps the Bitcoin and Dollars equivalent will never exist.

Indeed, a little bit every day.

• Signature campaign, constructive posts only!
• Faucet dust and some faucet referral payments

Thanks for sharing your background. I'll check out some of the reading you've posted here and I appreciate you sharing what you know. I've found in the past that a lot of people on this forum make claims about economics or prices or industry without any real fact whatsoever, which is why asked about your credentials and expertise.

@iamback, my question was completely valid. If people are going to make serious claims about the decline of the economy or wide scale economic destruction and they're asking me (i.e., all of us) to read and consider those claims it's important for us to ask some questions regarding credibility. That's all I did, no need to get upset with me for it and don't be condescending either.

If someone preaching economic theory hasn't studied much economic theory in the past it's fair to assume that they may not know what they're talking about. That doesn't seem to be the case here, but I didn't know until I asked and CoinCube responded.

I have a hard time believing the blanket statements that "it's not possible to make money" mining. I realize it's difficult, time consuming, expensive, etc, but there are still miners out there doing the work. Some operations are getting paid, right? Is just getting increasingly consolidated into fewer and fewer large operations?

So you're saying my question was stupid/vague/bullshit so I should expect answers of the same caliber?

Apologies to everyone if I came off as an ass. I'll try to improve my attitude.

I appreciate you doing the math. This isn't really what I was looking for but only because I don't agree with your assumptions. I was just looking for one of two answers:

1) Mining, or
2) Sig Campaign

Thanks for entertaining the question everyone. I know very little about mining, which is why the question was rather vague. I completely understand that there different size mining machines and different scale operations. I wasn't concerned about profitability, just revenue generation.

I like the poll question but the answer choices are mutually exclusive, nor collectively exhaustive.

Just trying to dispel the myth, all the info I've found says the wallet comes with a card or two of letters and numbers so you punch out your public and private key on your own. The seller of this product has no connection to your address.

Funny indeed, they probably should have waited until "BTC accepted!" was a reality but at least they're working on it. One other speculation I had is that since Coindesk is the middle man in a transaction selling goods for companies that may not be as committed to the BTC community as Coindesk is. So Coindesk increases their currency exchange risk by selling in BTC but sourcing in Dollars.

@Cryptosteel,

Aren't there third party risk to get my private key? I have to generate that first before I can arrange it in the steel wallet.

P.S., "Anonymity" is spelled wrong in your graphic.

Just a metal wallet, no paper.

Any word on exact price yet? How do I buy one of these?

Here's the official thread -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=977486

Thanks man, I also just figured out what 21e6 means, hahah...slow but catching up!

Eternal, thank you!

I definitely realize my question was vague because a huge mining operation would get to 25 BTC faster than one machine in an apartment some where.

To use the calculator you shared I need some more education, what's an average hash rate? I have no idea.

Speaking of mindless posts, yours is a great example.

I'm not trying to "hit a target" i'm trying to figure out how long it takes to mine 25 BTC.

THanks to the moderator for putting this thread in a section that may have people who know!

Guys, you're all missing the point. I'm not asking how to make money. (I HAVE AN AD IN MY SIGNATURE SPACE!)

I'm asking which would take longer, earning 25 BTC through mining or through a signature ad campaign as a Sr. or Hero Member?

If you don't know, don't respond.

P.S. CIYAM, if you're out there, i'm starting to see the frustration you see in people posting bullshit posts just to get paid...

It was a joke, laugh.