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181  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Does convince people to enjoy gambling is a wrong idea? on: August 08, 2018, 08:13:40 AM
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It depends mostly on two things: 1. Your salary, or an amount of money in your possession; 2. The total amount spent on gambling (let's consider the situation when your profit is negative). If after three years of gambling your total loss is less than your current monthly salary, you shouldn't be upset about your loss as long as you were having fun playing. But if you are upset still, then you should consider gambling less or not gambling at all. It's no rocket science to figure out whether fun worth the money or not. If gambling helps you to relax and more easily manage the stress of life, then it's probably worth it. Yet, like with any remedy, you shouldn't abuse it.
I get where you're coming from. "You gotta pay." basically. Having your reputation ruined for being a gambler and losing money from gambling is just not worth the "fun" in my opinion. Other forms of entertainment can be a source of a better physical health (prolongs life), can be a bonding time for you and your family (promotes a healthy relationship for the family which is very important), and it wouldn't cost as much.

Where did the 3 years came from by the way?

It is not good to make an user get into gambling until he or she has got own willing to experiment the truth behind gambling. One should not force an user to get into gambling. Out of interest if someone asks about the aspects and the way to be a part of gambling it is good to show the right way.
But this thread is not about getting people into gambling. It's not about forcing them at all. OP is actually worried that the people that are asking him about gambling might get addicted to it so he's hesitant.

After I read all of the comment I got a better sight, I found out that most of the comment said that its okay to teach them but you need to remind them the danger and the consequences, but still when they got addicted I think most of the people will still blame the one that teach
There really is no point in blaming the person who taught the person how to gamble. Eventually, he will find someone else to teach him or he can just self-teach. Google is just out there. Honestly I don't even understand the need to ask a specific person to teach you how to gamble when the information is out there on the Internet. Why disturb someone for something you can do by yourself? Nevertheless, it's the person who got addicted to gambling who's at fault since no one forced them to gamble anyway. Why blame the person who taught him when he only helped him initially? He was the one to asked, the person who taught him was just being helpful.
182  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Does hard work in gambling count? on: August 08, 2018, 07:25:24 AM
Hard work cannot be put in gambling.
Sure you can. Smiley
Because in gambling, your mind is working not your body.
So in any other thing that doesn't require much physically movement, you're saying that we're not doing any work? That's funny because most jobs nowadays require you to just be in front of a computer and talk to people or to a client. It requires knowledge before you can be hired to such job. Sometimes it's even more tiring that physical labor jobs.

Hardwork can surely be done in gambling but not in pure luck-based games like roulette and dice games. But in games like poker and sportsbetting, hard work can be done. In poker, you can learn how to read people's emotions. You have to be able to read their behavior so you know when to bet and when to fold. You can learn a little bit of psychology so you can manipulate your opponents by your strategy in playing poker. In sports bet, hard work can be done by researching about the game and looking for other tipster threads.
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184  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Will Ethereum/Altcoins Be Valuable Or Relevant without Bitcoin? on: August 06, 2018, 01:05:01 PM
It is simple that who is the first one exist will be the source of everything.
Not really. If the first one has flaws that needs to be fixed and a second thing was able to fix that and was able to market better, the second one will get the throne.

And because the bitcoin is the first ever crypto currency created, of course the following crypto currency existance are depending on the first crypto currency, the idea of the first crypto may adopted by the second one or third one, meaning without the first one, these two or three newly exist are nothing.
Altcoins are essentially just copies of bitcoin but serves a different purpose and a different market. You can think of it as a way to have subcategories for people. So we can be grouped in different ways. Each coin has a community supporting it. Each coin has its ecosystem.

Of course the price of it are depending on the price of the main crypto currency.
Not necessarily. Let's say that the price of an altcoin is $10 in fiat, if the price of bitcoin moves, you'd see that the price of altcoins in exchange of bitcoin also moves. But if you convert it to fiat, it's still around $10. It's one of the reasons why the price of altcoins goes down in exchange of bitcoin whenever bitcoin's price has increased. All along with the reason that people with altcoins are selling their coins in exchange of bitcoin to (a.) ride the pump (b.) not ride the dip of the altcoin (c.) sell in exchange of fiat.

On the other hand, altcoins aren't really relevant because of bitcoin. It can exist without Bitcoin existing. Bitcoin can go down and an altcoin can be not affected by it. It's the beauty of cryptocurrencies. One currency is not dependent of the other.
185  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Bounty Hunters Dump Always? on: August 06, 2018, 12:16:51 PM
how can bounty hunters dump the price of token? if we just look at bounty allocation is too small to dump the price. almost all ICO's are just allocated 3%-5% of the total supply and we cant stop bounty hunters to sell there coins immediately, because bounty hunters are working to get paid also. they are not investors or holders. those investors that are instantly get panic the one can drop a coin.
What's behind this is the fact that the token sale has just finished and the coin just got listed to an exchange. This means that the people that are willing to buy the coin and are interested in the project have already bought coins. This dump puts the coin to a really low price and the price will increase after a couple of months only if the team are able to market the coin or the project well after the token sale. You see, for the price of the coin to increase, it should have a demand. What's wrong with the new coin teams is that they never market the coin after the ICO. They just setup the project and see what will happen. It's really sad because it's like they setup the project after the token sale only so that the investors won't sell their coins right away.

We are buying the coins so that the project will have fuel to go up in the future and the coins that were sent to us will have a value higher than when we bought them. Devs just make their project believable as they can make it, dump the coin, and then leave the project. All while preparing a new coin to dump and earn quick money from. I'm starting to believe that the scam ICOs in this forum are made by the same people, scamming people worldwide one coin after another. It's the ponzi of 2018.
186  Economy / Speculation / Re: What is the Worst Case Scenario for Bitcoin? on: August 06, 2018, 11:23:41 AM
I have a question, if one of the mining pool reaches 51% of the mining rate. What capability can they do from this?
How can you know that there's a risk with someone having 51% of the network control but not know about 51% attack? Read about it by clicking the link. I really wouldn't worry about it that much since it will require a lot of money to do the 51% attack and it will just ruin bitcoin's name. Hence, the price will go down and whatever bitcoin the attacker can accumulate from the attack will not be worth the amount of money that he needed to do the attack. Know that the attack is totally possible, but who will be crazy enough to spend money just to ruin something? The government, perhaps, but it will require tremendous resources which could have been used for other things.

The government using this attack to ruin bitcoin which belongs to the people can be a sign that the government and the people have separated and are in war with each other.

This is a known fact if the price goes up it will surely go down. What happens if the price of Bitcoin falls to $1000 in 2018, will this be considered as a Worst Case Scenario or something else?
Yes that would be the worse scenario to happen for bitcoin and more or less investors that time are already pulling out their investment and then bitcoin will be left as half dead if it will still operate and if it will going to recover again it will not be the same as to what bitcoin nowadays that is so good and has a lot of good things to offer.
That's wrong because a price decrease so major has already happened.

Study the chart. Bitcoin went up to $1200 then went down to $600 really quickly, increased, then went down to $400, increased again, then the price went down to $200. Today, the price of $1200 of bitcoin is already a nightmare for all of us. Was it "never be the same"? Even to the people that have bought in $1200, today is still a good price. With the mentality that you have, I'd say that you're not a true bitcoin believer. Price can go low but know that mass adoption has to happen before the price can be stable, before we can actually say that a major price decrease means that bitcoin is dead and that people have already left it. At this point, even with a major price decrease, we will be able to recover because a lot of people hasn't joined the game yet unlike when mass adoption has already happened and most of our money is already in bitcoins.
187  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why are banks and governments scared of Bitcoin? on: August 06, 2018, 10:43:41 AM
these two have a different reason why they afraid in the bitcoin but only one goal to achieve. to not control their country by the bitcoin. we know that the bitcoin have many benefits so let's start in the government. government afraid in the bitcoin because we know that it is perfect for doing crime activities because it is untraceable. banks are afraid because we know that the bitcoin cannot collect tax and interest unlike the banks
People should really be educated about this sooner or later. You guys are ruining bitcoin's reputation by thinking that bitcoin is the perfect way for illegal transactions. Before bitcoin, was there no illegal transactions going on? Is it impossible to do with fiat? As a matter of fact, there are more illegal transactions being done with fiat than with bitcoin. Illegal transactions are going on far before bitcoin was there. For the "untraceable" part, it's actually traceable since there's the transaction history. What's untraceable is physical money. You don't know who it belonged before it was handed to you. Look at your money, you have no way of tracing from whom it came from before. This is why, even in the movies, illegal transactions are done with physical money and not digitally.

It must be admitted that the negative campaign about bitcoin and crypto became the basis for banks and the government was afraid of bitcoin, even though it was proven that bitcoin could be useful and improve the economy globally.
Sometimes it makes me wonder, does democracy really exist? Does it exist when people are silenced by the government. Bitcoin will truly change the way that we do transactions with each other. On the other hand, the government aren't getting from our transactions. There's no tax in our transactions, just very little transaction fee even when you're sending a really huge amount of money. It's only beneficial to us, the people. But at the end of the day, the government will always be the one in control. That's why I never really believed in democracy.
188  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is better in poker: bluffing or playing only with good cards? on: August 06, 2018, 09:56:02 AM
It's much safer not to bluff and focus on the cards, but there are exceptions. If you play with newbies they will sometimes be scared and playing very offensive and bold can scare them even more and make them fold with something like a pair in hand. So bluffing can work but it's much better to avoid bluffing with nothing. I never bluff with a bad hand, only if I see a potential in a flop.
Being able to bluff with a bad hand is the riskiest way to play. The only way that you're gonna win is by making everyone else fold. You have to make them believe that you have a really good hand and that you're going to win. Sometimes a good bluffer can make someone with a good card just fold. For example, if you can easily make a flash from the cards that are already out. Let's say there's three cards of hearts out, you betting big all of a sudden will make your opponent assume that you have a pair of hearts and that you have a flush. Another way that you can win with a bluff with a bad hand is when the other person who played you until the end also has a bad hand, and it's worse than yours.

I think it's important to bluff sometimes so they will not think that you only raise during times that you have a combination. You have to make them scared of you when you are bluffing, and you have to make it look like you're scared of them (look like you have a bad card) when you have a good card so they will keep on raising. Thus, having the most pot, winning the most.
189  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Will you still continue? on: August 05, 2018, 01:03:06 PM
What will you do if after losing several times in gambling, you are left with only small amount of money and that money will be for your fuel or for transportation, will you still continue with the little you are left with? What if you lose?
I think I will keep on playing because I want to play my last money and there is a chance I can gain again all the money I lost. In addition, do not ever give up and play your last card until the end because there are still a chance of winning. However, if you not win its not your luck and just find alternative way to gain money that you lost in gambling and try to study and get more information about gambling so you can I can avoid losing money and make a plan if you once you enter again in gambling.
It sounded like you're assuming that people are just having jobs and earning money just so they will be able to gamble. You even advised that we should study more about gambling and look for other ways to recover from the loss. How about not gambling at all so you don't have any loss? Imagine if the times that you used up to gamble, study gambling, and working to recover from those losses were spent in a much different way. Something like becoming better in your passion instead, and losing your money because you're pursuing a career or starting up a business. Does that sound good to you?

It saddens me that people are thinking this way. SMH. It's like their lives just revolves around gambling.

What will you do if after losing several times in gambling, you are left with only small amount of money and that money will be for your fuel or for transportation, will you still continue with the little you are left with? What if you lose?
I think I will keep on playing because I want to play my last money and there is a chance I can gain again all the money I lost. In addition, do not ever give up and play your last card until the end because there are still a chance of winning. However, if you not win its not your luck and just find alternative way to gain money that you lost in gambling and try to study and get more information about gambling so you can I can avoid losing money and make a plan if you once you enter again in gambling.
This is how habitual gamblers will react, they will not stop till the last penny finishes in their pocket. They will not let any chance go instead they know that it is their bad day but they will keep continue their game. This is a very horrible time in the life of the gamblers, this is the point where the person is going to be stressed and also has the chances of ending good relationship and family matters. In trying to gain something of the money lost all his money but it is not only money. A gambler after being empty pocket loses the respect and dignity in the society and live wrecked life.
Must be a terrible life to live, right? Being so brainwashed by the idea that you're someday going to hit the jackpot and recover the losses and gain back the trust and respect from the people you lost it to. It sounded like for everytime he loses all of his money, it's simply not his "day" and that he should just come back again later when he has money again. All the while, he's going to research more about gambling because apparently his "techniques" are not good enough and one day he will master all these when in reality there's no mastering to this. The day that he will hit the jackpot will never come, sadly.
190  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you play online casino? if Yes... on: August 05, 2018, 12:28:54 PM
It is more convenient, I can play online casino wherever and whenever I want.
As long as you have mobile phone and internet data, you can play all you want. This is also for people that doesn't want someone around him when playing. You can win and loss as much as you wanted without anyone close to you knowing about it.

Introverts like myself couldn't have found a better platform than online casinos and betting websites because i hate being in the crowd for games and since people seem to ostracize gamblers i hate to be seen gambling in public.
Perhaps gambling in real life is a way for you to get out of your shell. It forces you to socialize but only for a little bit. There's not much interaction going on when gambling. Plus, there will be moments in your life that you'll be forced to be in crowded places like when there's a social gathering. I think if you can practice being around people and be able to keep your cool, it will be very useful for you.

There's a stereotype that gamblers are wasting their money and throwing their lives away. But what about those gamblers that are actually winning or the gamblers that can actually afford it? If you wanna stop the stereotype, you should start to not be ashamed of yourself. Know that we have different ways of spending money. Others spend their money participating in the pop culture, buying iPhones, and basically things that they don't need. How is spending money from gambling any different when both of you spent the money for something you don't necessarily need?
191  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Does convince people to enjoy gambling is a wrong idea? on: August 05, 2018, 06:17:04 AM
I always have a mindset that gambling is fun and entertaining, I used to played for profit but now I played for entertained myself, I like to share my point of view about gambling, but I afraid when I introduce gambling to someone who cant control himself or herself then it can become a problem, and I can become the one that make him/her become addicted

So in one my hand I'd like people to enjoy gambling but in one hand I afraid it can turned into disaster and I could the person that cause the person become addicted, so I kind of confused when someone come and asked me to teach or explained thing about gambling, should I teach them or I just ignore them? How can I teach or convince them that gambling is only for fun? Is it a wrong idea to teach or convince them to gamble for fun?
It's not worth risking. Money is involved and if that particular person is struggling with money, he will look at gambling as a way to make extra money when in reality it can only cause him to lose money. There will be times that he will be winning but in the long run he will lose all of that. You can teach them about gambling but know that you will be the one at fault if they get addicted because you were the one to introduce it to them even when they were the ones who are at total control of themselves.

There are tons of other things that can be a source of fun. These days, it seems that a lot of things are made just to entertain human beings. There are others that do not take away your money and makes you a healthier person as well. Sports is a good way to keep yourself entertained. If they are looking for thrilling moments that's why they are trying to gamble, they can also get that from sports. Maybe it will be even more intense since in sports, your life can also be at risk at times. What's more thrilling than risking your life? But of course it doesn't have to get to that intensity.

Gambling CAN be fun, but in the long run, are you really entertained? Are you really entertained by the idea that your money is depleting?
192  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Why I don't Support KYC in cryptocurrency as it is on: August 04, 2018, 12:59:48 PM
I do understand that there's a regulation in the US about ICOs but I never understood why certain signature campaigns in here are requiring KYCs. Some believe that it's so that you will be able to prove that you have double accounts in the campaign. Not that I'm suggesting that you guys do this but, just how easy it is to ask a friend with a different surname as yours to borrow his ID and then you're just going to give him some tip. Luckily I never enrolled in such campaign that would all of a sudden say that they are requiring KYCs. What about those people that are trying to stay anonymous? I think it's just one of the gimmicks of these people that have zero reasons to do. They are just adding some more steps to claim your reward for whatever reason.

It's really weird that someone would run an ICO just to get other people's IDs. What would he use it for? Are they going to sell it to the government so the government can watch these particular individuals that have joined their campaign? They really should give the reward to the bounty hunters since those coins came from nowhere anyway.

The bounty hunters just promoted their coin, why would you require their ID? You just have to pay them. When you're getting advertised in other websites, will you require KYC from them as well? I think not. This is just absurd and shouldn't be allowed in the forum, imo. It risks getting people from here exposed.
193  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is best practice for gambling?? on: August 04, 2018, 12:12:57 PM
Be the casino. I cannot think any other way to make money from gambling. Think about it, the house has the house edge and it limits your max bet amount too. It has all the advantages over you. In the long term it is impossible for you to win against the house.
... which can easily be explained. The only time that we stop gambling is when our money has depleted. This is why gambling is essentially about timing. It's all about when to stop betting. Do you stop betting when you're winning or when you're losing. We all had the times when we were winning but as the greedy person that we are (it's human nature, no need to be like "Oh I'm not a greedy person."), we continue to bet until we lose it all.

If you don't want to be the house but still want to play, the best thing you can do (other than not playing at all) is limiting the number of bets you make every month and the amount you wager in those bets. If you lose control, the house will fuck you up.
How is prolonging the time that you lose your money is better than losing them all at once? Losing is still losing regardless of how many days it took you to lose those money. At the end of the day, you still lost the same amount of money.

if you are playing a game like texas hold em my advice would be find a website offering free roles every hour and practice those and once you start getting top 10 every game its time to start playing with the big boys on the high limits tables. the only problem with online is all the bots!!!!

Can you refer me to those sites that offering texas hold em free rolls every hour? I'm not a good player in poker, but I want to try my luck, I don't need to deposit because it's free. I had joined some free rolls before but I forgot what site is it, I think it is already down by now

You may check cryptopokerclub, as per their official thread they are offering freeroll every 2 hours. You can use it to learn and gain experience in playing poker. There are also many android apps that gives you a good chance to learn how to play poker but of course there is no chance to earn money like what you may get in poker freerolls.
It is a good idea. Also, watching tournaments may be a good practice for Poker.

Every time you do something and you want to improve in it, you really need to learn from the professionals.  I am watching  some poker games, most of them are taunting but yes, great plays.

But I think watching them makes you do that same play in the game and I think that might get you hooked in gambling that, I think may lead to addiction. I know someone that get addicted in that way but not really on gambling.
Watching these tournaments really are the reason why someone gets hooked in gambling. He keeps on gambling thinking that he will be the next *insert some famous poker person* and that it will make him hit the jackpot. Get over yourself. Those professional poker players are getting paid to play. Regardless if they win or lose, they are going to get paid a certain amount of money just for playing. Does someone pays you even when you lose? I think not. It's the difference between you and those professional players. It's also the reason why they don't get scared betting tremendous amount of money. In other words, they know that at the end of the day, they will sleep with a lot of money in their bank account.
194  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: To quit gambling is to quit yourself on: August 04, 2018, 11:31:24 AM
Lol it's like you're telling us that we should not quit gambling even though we have lost a lot. Me, I lost a lot. I just misclicked a button and then my money is gone. I put all of my money and then poof, gone. It's a bet on a tennis match. The stakes was high, I was sleepy that time and I didn't noticed that I betted at the wrong person and at the wrong odd. And then, With that I lost .1 btc. I'm an all in gambler. If that's surely a win, I surely put all my money. But it seems that it's not very healthy.
But admit it, a part of you wanted that "blind" bet to win. "I'm very sleepy so I will accidentally click this bet and see if I'd hit the jackpot." It happened to me before as well. But the thing, though, you didn't lose the money just because you misclicked a button. A lot of things have happened before that. First, you find a gambling site to gamble on. Then, you deposit money. You choose a game, and put on the bet. It didn't happen "accidentally" for the reason that you wouldn't be in that scenario if you didn't all those things in the past that lead to that specific scenario.

It completely depends on them because some people won't gamble after losing money but people who are addictive to gamble will not leave the gambling even after losing a huge amount of the money. Everything depends on their nature because when it comes to me i used to gamble when i have free time and will not spend more on it.

then they will be hard to quit gambling, and they will lose all of their money. and if we want to stop gambling, then it will start from ourselves, and if necessary, we can ask the other people to always remind us and get us to leave from the gambling places. maybe this is difficult for the addicting gambler, but I believe that he realizes that he needs to quit gambling, then he will try to leave no matter how hard it will be.

Well, the best thing to do really here is to ask for help, and yes, we must really accept the fact that we are not really doing anything good for ourselves but feeding our greediness by putting our money into gambling. It really boosts the greediness into us whenever we hear these games, and even if you are avoiding this game will not help you because it will just make you more hungry for it. There are a lot of people that can help you and you can start by asking your family, your loved ones or your friends.
But what happens when your family, loved ones, and friends aren't willing to help you? Are any of them a addition psychiatrist or an addiction medicine physicians? We always ask for help from the people that we know when at the end of the day, it'll be only us who can help ourselves. Go ask for help professionally. The people around you can only advise you with things that you may have already thought of before as they didn't specialize in treating addiction. The only real help that you can get from the people near you is financially which sadly most of us are not really willing to give especially when yourself is the reason why you've become an addict. The chances of you getting financial help from them are tremendously low since everyone hates gambling addicts.
195  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Life with a Gambler - Solution! on: August 03, 2018, 01:17:14 PM
The moment when you put gambling before your family and friends, then you know you have a problem. I gamble for the fun

 and excitement, but I know where to draw the line. Unfortunately not everyone know where to draw the line and then

gambling become a problem. Some people will "ban" themselves from casinos to stop, but it is not possible with online

casinos. The best thing for these people is for them to acknowledge that they have a problem and to stop by themselves.  Roll Eyes
Yes.Gambling problems or let's say gambling addiction can only be cured if you admit it by yourself.There are a lot of gamblers today who never acknowledge their problems and so they end up ruining their own lives even their own families.I suggest to gamble only with what you can afford to lose.Setting limitations for yourself might be a great help and of course self-discipline is the only tool to help yourself get out from that big problem you had.
It is very sad to see the families that are ruined by "irresponsible" gambling habits by their family heads and the saddest part of it is that they are unaware of the problem that they have and the root cause of it. Seeking professional advice could also help people with this kind of addiction. Acknowledging it right away will be very hard for them and they will be able to do it if they will be assisted by professional practices.
Addiction should always be addressed right away. It's like a little plant at first, not really taking up that much space. Every time you gamble, you're watering that plant. Until one day, that plan has become a tree. And the roots are a lot more deeper. And the trunk and branches of the tree are thicker than ever. Mental health is an issue that's been around for a long time. People think that gambling addiction is a phase and everyone has had it. Everyone did gambling in their lives, but not everyone got addicted to it. Up to now, addiction is still an issue that a lot of people are talking about, but not really fixing. Mental health is just as important as physical health, probably even more important. Funny because it was only recently when a law in my country was established about getting help with mental health.

As a gambler, you should realize that your life isn't just a life for yourself. Your life is also for your family and your friends. You might think that they aren't affected by your actions but they really really are deeply affected by it.
196  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you find Success in Gambling? on: August 03, 2018, 12:39:16 PM
We can’t find Success in Gambling, we only find failure and problems. After several days or month become addicted on it surely you will going to lose 70% of your savings in the bank much more worst is that there is nothing left in you and you are already into the deep depths.
I know it, you understand it and many of others here do testify this statement, but why not everyone. Why don’t people don’t see the harms and losses attached to this game. Why they consider it as source of income? I am really interested to know about this thing. I want people to leave this game that leads human race to destruction and detrimental future.
I really wouldn't say "human race" because gamblers doesn't take up the whole human race. Gamblers are actually aware of the harms that the game can do to them and they probably are seeing it slowly changing their lives. They know most than all of us. They are the ones most aware of these. But, they choose to turn a blind eye to it just so they would not be guilty when they are gambling. There are only 3 reasons I know why people continuously gamble despite all of his losses:
1. He doesn't know any other forms of entertainment. - This is very hard because as humans, we need to be entertained during our free times. We get bored so easily. This is even harder when his friends are also gambling. It becomes a form of entertainment and a way to socialize.
2. He doesn't have anything better to do. - It's a Friday night, everyone's asleep, and you can't sleep. What do you do? You gamble because you don't have anything else to do such as reading, do taxes, etc. Of course you can always find better things to do, but why so? When your gambler mind can just.. gamble.
3. Gambling is a form of escape to him and this is the only way he knows how to cope with stress. - Honestly that one reason that makes you shut down everything and just gamble. You do not care about the losses, you do not care about anything else. You just want to gamble just to get rid of this stress. Why? Because it's the way of coping that you've had for a long time.

The reason why people consider gambling as a source of income even when ironically it makes them lose money is because they have seen people left the casino with tons of money. And so they gambling continuously in hopes that one day they will be just like that person. If not today, maybe tomorrow. Then the cycle repeats.
197  Economy / Economics / Re: stupidity is so close to poverty on: August 03, 2018, 07:44:10 AM
stupidity is so close to poverty, do you agree with such a phrase?
if it yes, means the poor are the fools.
I want to know your opinion.  Grin Grin

It`s not exactly stupidity.Not all poor people are stupid.It`s the combitation of being lazy+procrastination+lack of education/knowledge+not enough concentration and discipline+finding too many excuses for everything in your life and blaming everyone else for your misery.
Some rich people are kinda stupid,but they work hard,have discipline and stay focused.

Haha good point. I'd agree, rich people can still lack in the other important skills that are necessary to be truly successful. Just because you have a lot of money doesn't necessarily mean that you've earned it the hard way.

Stupidity is a lack of knowledge, or no desire to obtain that knowledge anywhere. That's what makes people get stuck in certain situations in their lives. They don't see a need to improve or learn more, and therefore have a hard time escaping poverty. Or, they were just born into these conditions and are comfortable where they are. Nothing wrong with that, it's just a preference.
Sometimes it's also a culture. You see your father and mother content with the life that you have, and so you become like them. I mean, why would you grind and work hard if everyone around you is comfortable with just sharing a small fish for dinner? It's PERFECTLY fine to the people around you, why wouldn't it be fine with you? I live in a place where everyone is content with their lives. They are all poor but they are all addicted to gambling. The small amount of money that they are getting from a long day of labor work goes all to gambling. Why? It's because it's the life that their parents lived and was passed on to them. Good thing I'm not originally from this place so I have a totally different mindset. I was raised differently.


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rich people can still lack in the other important skills that are necessary to be truly successful.
And what are those skills? Money = Success in this world. No other way. I know that we have different definitions of "success" but you don't see a poor person being called "successful". It really only take you to be exceptionally good at one thing in order to become rich. Become a really good singer, people will come to you, listen to you, and eventually pay to listen to you. All of the other skills becomes secondary like washing the dishes, doing the laundry, etc. Everything that doesn't have a relation with your career becomes secondary at this point. That's why successful people make other people do those things for them. You don't have to have the "other important skills".
198  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: To quit gambling is to quit yourself on: August 02, 2018, 10:00:35 AM
If in reality your quiting because you want to quit, then just go forward but eventually you will probabily want to go back if you were successfull.
If not then it will be just easy as taking a candy from a baby.
But the reality sucks that you don't really want to quit because you're hands just can't get off any casino once you sit in front of it.

It's not easy to quit if you had been dedicating a lot of your time on it.
That's why whenever we tell ourselves "I'm just gonna go to the casino but NOT play.", we are lying to ourselves. Same as whenever we go to a gambling site just to watch other people play. One thing related to gambling will lead us to actually gambling no matter how remote it is. Sometimes we're just watching some Tv series then there's a scene of people gambling, then the next thing you know, you're already gambling. You have to know your triggers so you can avoid them. If your computer makes you gamble, then block the gambling sites that you play at or put all of your money in an offline address and make it hard for you to access it (i.e. make your wife hold the private keys). In your example, there's not a way that you're not gonna gamble because you're in a gambling place.

In order to quit gambling, you have to start by avoiding the things, big and small, that gives you an urge to gamble.
199  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Sometimes enough is enough on: August 02, 2018, 09:20:17 AM
The chance of losing a lot of money is very high since you are drunk, your decision making is messed up.
This is only applies to gambling games that requires decision making such as poker. But games like dice games, and roulette, this doesn't apply. Sober or not, you have the same chances of winning which is pretty low. With the same logic, being sober and going to the casino will make you millions.

To control the amount of money you spend in gambling, you just bring only the amount of money you plan to spend.
How about writing cheques?

Leave the ATM card at home.
As well as jewelry like earrings, rings, and watches. Bring just yourself.

If it's possible go to the casino using a cab, much better, there are loan sharks waiting around the casino who accepts cars as collateral for those who wants to win back their money.
I really wouldn't go to the casino using a cab because what if you win instead? Will you really risk being in a car with a stranger while holding a lot of money. I really think that if you are at that point that you're ready to sell your car just to continue gambling, you're far deep down the gambling rabbit hole. None of these advice will help since you're ready to sell something that is very useful to you and is a necessity in your daily life. But I guess we never really know what can happen in the casino that'll push you to your limits. Smiley
200  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Are you aware that some Banks accept Bitcoin? on: August 02, 2018, 08:27:02 AM
I think this is the good news if banks are accepting bitcoin and peoples can withdraw via Debit/Credit card. I hope In upcoming days all world wide banks will be accept bitcoin and these kind of adaption will be good for cryptocurrency future also peoples can hold bitcoins in their banks bitcoin wallet and directly can do transaction via bank no need to use third party apps.
This is the problem with the newbies, they're easily deceived by the news spreading on the social media. There is no banks that are accepting bitcoin. And remember that banks will never accept bitcoin, because they cant handle it. Bitcoin is decentralized digital currency, it means that it cannot be controlled or manipulated, and also bitcoin is volatile, it means that the price is changing rapidly and its unpredictable to know if its going to increase or decrease. Banks will not accept such that kind of thing, because they cant control it, and the price is not constant.
I agree and I really do think that there is a third party company involved in between. You deposit your bitcoin to the third party, you convert it into fiat, and withdraw the money through your bank account but not deposit to the banks then withdraw it in an ATM. People are commenting "Wow that's good to know" in this thread but never asked OP about the link or even the name of the bank that he's claiming to exist.

Banks are made by the government, controlled by government, and is for the government. Bitcoin is for people, on the contrary. Bitcoin is too volatile for the banks to even consider accepting it in their system. Let's say that a whale have deposited bitcoins to a bank, then cashed a huge amount of money, then the price of bitcoin went down, what now? That particular bank has already lost money when they could have just stayed in the same stance that they had, the one that only accepts cash. It's also possible that the opposite will happen (someone selling bitcoins then the price of btc goes up), and they end up having more cash. But to what end? They literally have unlimited amount of money, they don't need more of your cash.

if there are so many banks accepted bitcoin, it can be rapid growth for bitcoin and make any investors optimist that bitcoin will be a future currency
We already have ETF for that although people can still be pretty optimistic about bitcoin if they study about it.

Banks will take up anything that they can charge commission on. It wouldn't come as a surprise if there are banks accepting crypto, but I would be cautious about fees. P2P networks tend to be much cheaper. You might even get a better price from your online exchange.

The problem is the countries where regulation prevents banks from using it, like what happened in India recently. Also China, Venezuela, Turkey... there are many countries where the government will step in and try to block the transactions if they somehow think they are losing out on tax
I mean, just what is the reason for you to put your bitcoins in a bank which the government controls. When they decided to ban bitcoin, those that are in a bank surely will just be frozen there forever. We do have online exchanges that allows us to cash out our coins, what can the banks do that we can't do ourselves?
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