If you want, you can send me some of the transaction data (a single deposit adress with a signed message from the input made to that deposit address). Note that i can't promise anything though. (Since their LoG isn't a LoG, i think it will be hard to verify with 100% certainty, nonetheless..) I suspect that "smartmixer" - just might say - * the signature is not mine (but no one can check), I didn’t have you, I don’t know who you are * - given the size of the amount sent.
Such a statement would, depending on the data you have, be sufficient in proving they perhaps did steal the funds. EDIT: I can verify that OP has had control over 10+ BTC. Whether they were actually send to Smartmixer,, ...i will try to verify that in a bit. Edit2: as of right now i can’t verify (with certainty) whether the funds were actually send to Smartmixer. I still feel like this warrants a response from them. |
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Gentlemen, I'm going to write a scam sheet, but I do not want to publish logs for everyone.
Tell me, which of the oldies member of the forum will be able to verify and assure them?
I'm not sure anyone can verify your claims, which was the entire point i was making yesterday. if we look at the Letter Of Guarantee, it seems that the only people who can verify it are Smartmixer themselves, not a third party, as opposed to traditional letter's of guarantees. Now if you ask me, that's a flawed implementation of a LOG, but apparently no one seems to care or have seen this as of now? (  ) I think you are right.  I never bothered to check their Letter of Guarantee but I don't see how this can be "verifiable" to confirm someone is mixing with the real Smartmixer. In this case, what is even the point of this "LoG"? They don't even have any staked address (At least I couldn't find any). The only addresses are the deposit and receiver ones, and in their website, I can only see the donation address at the bottom. This is so funny. The funny thing being that i don't even know whether they did this intentionally or not. Perhaps we can use BlockSci/WalletExplorer to cluster Smartmixer's deposit adresses and see whether they would match the claims you're making, but that probably wouldn't be completely foolproof. |
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While i do think smartmixer's owners are pretty incompetent up to a certain degree, (and i've stated this numerous times in the past regarding their "fake- (one could view their given explanation as "moderately") plausible.." mixing popups, their use of anti-DDOS services such as Cloudflare, and their use of potential sockpuppets, note: that is not proven, just an allegation some people have made.), I for one still would not blindly believe they got hacked, and if their database got hacked, you'd expect the service to be offline as well etc. Without proof it sounds dubious. Anyway, if you have a letter of guarantee... Well, keep us updated and post that as proof if they don't do anything about your case..
Although, perhaps someone can help me here... I just downloaded Smartmixer's letter of guarantee: It's a JSON file that looks like this: {
"comment": "Never share your Letter of Guarantee with third parties. Attach this document to our Support Team only when you are facing problems with your mixing order. The Letter of Guarantee is only available during the active mixing operation. After the completion all data about your order will be deleted automatically from our database.",
"orderHash": "509bdc054a8201782f6d86bbd065481d691869a39f54a3140dd0c09e84e12bae6c11635ec4b0ceb816eafb6e11dc50c8f0bfbeb3741e21a8a7cebef44ddb9a79",
"orderKey" : "3eelup75ony8wgcw",
"currency": "BTC",
"customerCode":"f0a6oid4",
"feePercentage": 4.9787,
"feePerAddress": 0.00023225,
"address": "3Eg3K6mmHZPUWzD222hxj4mtj5b6ws4WDr",
"pool": "Stealth Pool",
"createdAt": 1582320630,
"outputs":[
{
"address": "3KvLa6RQCNaWXoWziBQ4NZBchUt3MA5Rj8",
"delay": 180,
"percentage": 100
} ]
}
How can i verify this? What exactly is the message body, and what is the digital signature? Can anyone verify this signature for deposit address 3Eg3K6mmHZPUWzD222hxj4mtj5b6ws4WDr using above JSON in electrum / whatever? I mean, am i retarded, or is this letter of guarantee actually a "internal" letter of guarantee? What are they talking about expiring a signature, or it only being valid during mixing? Are they nuts? (Haven't tried myself but this feels like i would just be guessing, and it's late already, Well actually i did try, using the order hash as signature, deposit as signing adress, and comment as message, but it's not making much sense. Oh well, i'm rambling here. Should go.) As opposed to a traditional letter of guarantee, which just looks like this, and can easily be verified?? ========== START LETTER OF GUARANTEE ==========
We hereby confirm that Blender.io has generated the deposit address 3JHWRiAdk4ykB6YsoBcKFmqR5zdurTpcdk in order to transfer incoming amount (minus fee: 1.333% in total + 0.00025 BTC for every target address) to the following addresses: 100% to 3KvLa6RQCNaWXoWziBQ4NZBchUt3MA5Rj8 after 0 hour(s). This service will be only available for all bitcoins received from Friday, 21-Feb-2020 21:31:52 UTC to Saturday, 22-Feb-2020 21:31:52 UTC with minimum amount of 0.001 BTC and maximum amount of 2918.67487656 BTC total. This letter is digitally signed by the address: 1Fd1zWsLCP8okiExCrhzvU4TD8zKYfgbZ1.
=========== END LETTER OF GUARANTEE ===========
=========== START DIGITAL SIGNATURE ===========
H9A0N0hqhxeGyYwlP0WHvBly0vtEQj1EgH033inJyslnfW2Ckvdi79ceP4YuAn4JlwyfFyBjefUoxok bjBGpZZU=
============ END DIGITAL SIGNATURE ============ |
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Did anyone else notice this today? I'm not exactly sure when, but i think sometime after they stopped with their signature campaign, they locked all of their ANN threads. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5168505.160On top of that, it seems that their website is becoming increasingly harder to access? Loading over clearnet doesn't work at all for me, and over tor it's about a 1/10 chance of the site actually loading. Can Smartmixer themselves perhaps shed some light why they locked their ANN threads? Are you closing down? Have they done this before in times of maintenance (Am I missing something here?) Anyway, a bit premature maybe, but let this thread perhaps serve as a secondary ANN where people can posts complaints/stuff they would otherwise normally post in their ANN thread. Will delete if there's an explanation i missed / ANN gets unlocked. Edit: As opposed to 504 errors earlier on, (Signs of ddos?) I now get 403 & 502 errors (Time to worry maybe?). |
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I bet the bestmixer's story won't finish soon
Hmmm. All the transaction information seized from their servers has been shared with the J5 commitee, according to this article, https://bitcoinist.com/netherlands-shares-bitcoin-mixer-probe-report/I wonder what impact that'll have, perhaps in the form of additional actions against the users of Bestmixer? |
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There is many in the space that are going to be great for you: DefiSaver is one that is pretty helpful, their smart contract lets you go between the different platforms to go on the one with the highest interest and the one that you trust. IEarn.Finance is one of the newer ones, has a pretty attractive APR at the moment but hasn't been around for that long. Check out LoanScan.io as well, as they post everything on there. Happy DeFi  Who takes out loans with these guys, when there is a 50%( 50k on 25k!) collateral needed?  With 8% interest rates on crypto* are they not overcollateralized as **, as in, they have way more people "investing" in them than people taking out loans? Why would newer platforms offer higher APR than older more established platforms which probably securitize more loans? Who's taking out loans on these new platforms, especially when you need to overcollateralize by 50%? (I'd be wary of new platforms running with my collateral!) I don't understand these Lending platforms, and what i do understand about them just makes them look scummy to me, for example, sites such as Celsius and Nexo only let you earn high interest over the first x bitcoin, and on top of that, they want you to not put that money in bitcoin, but into their shit token?? |
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Solved. Thank you guys! A moderator can please delete this thread based on list of private wallet addressed shared here
Removed them. |
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Common advice is to keep your currencies safe by placing them into storage. I feel this is risky considering coins have dumped to all time lows within short periods of time. The alternative would be to keep them on an exchange and set stop losses, however, this is also risky as exchanges or your account can be compromised. How do you manage these risks?
You either are a belieber in bitcoin, or you're not. If you're not, you could either choose not to buy it, or as you said, have some faith in the centralized exchanges, and place stop loss orders for when bitcoin drops too low. Can't stress it enough though: not your keys, not your coins. How do you manage these risks? Only buy what you can afford to lose. |
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I think the BSV (in the case of a fork) still resides on the adress your BCH was on at the time of the split. So to claim your BSV, you need to export the private key of your blockchain.com adress that held bch at the time of the split, and import that in a wallet that supports BSV.. In your case, you need to get the private keys from the following adresses and import them in a SV-compatible wallet to recover your SV coins (I assume exodus will do?). - -removed- To get the private keys belonging to to these adresses, you probably need to export your 12 word seed from blockchain.com ( https://login.blockchain.com/#/security-center/basic => Back up seed), and hope it derives the adresses properly in whatever wallet you are importing it (Exodus), but that should do it.. As opposed to sending BCH from the blockchain.com adress,--that doesn't move any of the BSV balances. It simply adds replay protection (someone spending your coins on the other chain, or you yourself accidently.) So for example, this cash adress, -removed- see -removed- |
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I think i've posted/pointed out something similar to this in the ANN thread of Coinsbits.io as well, like a couple months ago or something? Still, i found it funny when i revisited the traffic analytics of Coinsbit.io, which demonstrates the following: https://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/coinsbit.io They have a really low alexa rating (compared to a couple months ago) which sounds good on paper, and if it was actually "Real" would legitimize the exchange further. But, breaking the traffic down, it becomes painfully obvious this traffic is bought through PPC (Pay Per Click) and PPV (reverse pay per view)  https://coinpayu.com/ - PPV https://adbtc.top/ - PPC Take both overlap scores of respectively 38.4 and 38, which is ~ 77% of their traffic being faked already. Add in some pop up ads/and other bought traffic, and a MoE of ~10%, and you'll see that 90-100% of the traffic is actually faked. In comparison, Bitmex.com, the largest margin trading exchange in volume, only has an alexa rating of 34k, and the highest overlap score is ~ 21.1 with bitfinex.com https://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/bitmex.com |
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Your name is “exchangesupport” if you are not part of the exchange (unlikely), you are impersonating someone who is.
I didn’t have an account on this forum before. I decided to create and name it in honor of the protection of my favorite exchange. I see nothing wrong with that. But the fact that a crowd of baboons attacked me and gave me a negative reputation. You are very cruel on newcomers. Moreover, it’s very disappointing that there are racists on the forum. Let's just, for the sake of argument, take you serious for a second here, because, don't get me wrong, Coinsbits.io is an exchange with fake volume, fake hype (bumping service) and even worse than yobit regarding their "InvestBox", they're really just a ponzi scheming fake-ing volume exchange of shit tokens. Now, you say you created this account to protect your favorite exchange? Really? What do you love so much about Coinsbit.io that you can't find on any other exchange? Name one thing One. But the fact that a crowd of baboons attacked me and gave me a negative reputation. You spread lies about sensitive information that could perhaps ruin other people's financials if they're not aware of the actual truth. That deserves to be pointed out. There are actual accusations of Coinsbit scamming other people's money out there. See https://icorating.com/coinsbit/reviews/coinsbit-is-a-scamming-exchange-146237/ or, really, just this post by nutildah - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5195285.msg53855110#msg53855110Moreover, it’s very disappointing that there are racists on the forum.
Because someone told you your english is bad, they're a racist? I think the problem lies with your perception of racism, not the forum. It looks to me like Coinsbit decided, in their infinite wisdom, to create another sock-puppet account with an official sounding name like "ExchangeSupport" with barely a grasp of English & used google translate to post this garbage in an effort to defend their misdeeds - which has backfired badly & only makes them look even more scummy than they already are.
Wait, r you a racist? Or do you think that if you're white, then you have the right to criticize how a black writes? Sorry, but someone who writes this as a response in a non-satirical context ... I really don't see how you could be taken seriously. That's just... laughable.. |
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Use common sense and report posts that solely post so they can spam a(n) (off-topic) link? I'm pretty sure they'll get deleted by moderators the same way excessive posting of refferal links will get your posts deleted. Forum rules are not allowing promoting referral codes/links They do allow referral links as long as they're not the primary reason for you creating the post/thread AFAIAA. |
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Careful everyone.
It's still possible to exfiltrate money from your account using API keys by moving money between accounts via low liquidity trading pairs.
hey thanks for commenting. Why would I use API anyway? Why should I trust him? IMHO He would need to trust me if I invest my money You give him access to your API keys so that he can trade with your account. As opposed to sending him the money directly. Parodium simply states that that gives a false sense of security, since OP can either A. still make shitty trades losing all your money or B. try to siphon away your money through low liquidity coins: (He buys LL coins with your account, then sells them for as low as possible, causing his buy orders which are way below market rates to fill, thus making some profit off of your coins once they shoot back up. (Or vice versa)). IMHO He would need to trust me if I invest my money How exactly? He isn't taking any risk by using your money to make some trades? |
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If paypal is this bad, then why is paypal the number 1 option or only option for ppl who sell on ebay? If that is case, couldn't lot of ppl just chargeback on products bought on ebay or that is not possible if seller make sure there is something is receipt that prevents this? Imagine selling a computer or expensive electronic? What about clothes? Or what about cable wires or cheaper products?
You need to provide extensive proof, sellers have a track record and usually their personal info + adresses linked to their accounts, - and paypal stems from Ebay and vice versa. (All these factors probably contribute to paypal being used as n#1.) I imagine that there are numerous fraud systems in place from preventing that- asking documents/bank statements for large transactions, logging IP's, asking for signatures when receiving packages, etcetera. Also ppl can chargeback more than 6 months later? I heard 6 month was the max.
I believe only if the payment is made through a credit card company. - he could tell the credit card company the payment was fraudulent, even after 6 months, and I believe that there's a chance some providers will reverse the transaction. Not sure though. Also if you accept paypal from someone, wouldn't you need to trust this person close to 100% I mean if you accept it from stranger, how would you know its even this person's actual paypal account and not a hacked account. Is there anything that helps you with this? Only thing i can think of is ask them for their passport and have them take a picture of themselves holding their passport? The same with bank transfers. Wouldn't you need someone to confirm its their bank account before you transact?
For high value and high risk transactions- that would be a good idea. But one can also photoshop bank statements and other documents, so that still isn't waterproof. But if you have them deposit cash in bank, that is safe as long as the banking day is closed right? I heard a long time ago ppl would deposit cash in someones bank account, show them receipt, then go back to the bank and tell them they deposited into wrong bank account. Is there anything to prevent this? You could probably open a dispute if it was for certain goods. I'd also like to mention that it is against Paypal's TOS to trade Bitcoin -> Paypal, hence why there is barely any sellers' protection and vice versa. |
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I wonder if I copied the Link to Nicehash they could take a look or am I done ?
Unfortunately, they wouldn't be able to do anything, as Coinbase is the one holding your funds..  Unless Coinbase changes it's policy in the future, your coins are "lost". |
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Hey, I am just starting out and would like to use a VPN, but don't know which one... Would you recommend NordVPN? I have done some reading https://www.reddit.com/r/nordvpn/ and looks alright, how is it for bitcoin stuff? I don't think that that's an important criteria. - (edit: I see - unless of course those services are forbidden in your country.) If i buy a VPN- i would really focus on two things- speed and logging policies. Speed is sort of subjectable, which leaves logging policies. The only VPN i think which has gone to and through court over their no-log policies, and held up their end, is, as far as i know- PIA. ( But they recently got new ownership which i think is a bad thing), so i wouldn’t necessarily recommend them anymore.. NordVPN is ap parently audited by various reputable firms (not sure how credible this is.), so, if you trust them, i guess NordVPN wouldn't be a bad choice either. |
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Are you going to actually provide an API key to back up your trades from April to December, as they are listed on your website?
If so - that would be a great way to perhaps legitimacy yourself a bit.
If you don't - don't expect to be taken seriously.
This has ARAKNE 2.0 written all over it, although i guess that that sort of would be an insult to Arakne.
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You can start a trade and ask him to not send any gift cards codes and then you don't have to release anything to him. I would highly suggest staying from that user though:
I thought about starting trading with him in offer, but it was impossible. Paxful requires me to have a minimum amount to start trading and what's worth mentioning here is that his trading started at a minimum price of $ 500. I have no need to make such a transaction nor do I have enough money on Paxful, I just wanted to trade at $ 50, so I still couldn't contact him. Is there any other way? There’s probably a reason it starts at 500... How many other paxful traders are there where you need to trade a minimum of 500$? If he has such rates, he could do massive volumes if he accepted below 500$. (As for him, there is no risk- he received plain btc...) so- if there is no risk for him, why wouldn’t he do so? Probably because after the first customers gets blocked by amazon/ steam for using carded cards, they’ll open a dispute on paxful. (Thus locking his remaining funds). I’d also like to add that his rep is no indicator of trustworthiness. There are rep trading groups, but you can also make 150 transactions for 10$ giftcards @ lets say 5% fee, which means it’ll only cost you roughly (10*150)*.05 = 75$ for 150 ++ rep. (Selling them back after buying them, or not doing tx’s at all- fake trading as mentioned above.) I believe there have been cases of accounts with 1k+ fake rep scamming for 100$, so it definitely isn’t impossible.If i read https://paxful.com/user/Teemain trading history correctly- it seems to me that he never was the seller- from all his transactions of december he was the one who initiated them. He sold Amazon GC’s for btc- and now he’s doing the exact opposite thing- selling Amazon GC for BTC..,, another thing to keep in mind when lookong at these ratings. Another guy who sells them for ridiculous rates — https://paxful.com/user/Iamhakay (who, before buying bitcoin using amazon GC, repped his account by SELLING amazon gc for btc.. Exactly the same as teemain) i’m not too familiar with the Amazon -> btc market, but this does seem suspicious. I would avoid them all together. This simply seems like playing russian roulette to me. |
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Thank you for your reply.
This is the last response from Coinbase support but I don't know exactly what there after as it's all new to me lol
Thank you for reaching back out. It appears that the transaction or account hash you've provided is invalid.
To ensure we locate the correct transaction, please provide the URL for the transaction as our system is unable to process screenshots. If you're unable to locate this information please reach out to the other exchange or the sender for the hash information.
Did you provide them with the transaction ID copied from blockchain.com? Something like https://www.blockchain.com/bch/tx/0020e551833be3f9d5cfecb25a6e26b81ded54d79b221fd8be7bfbd85ec95962 but of course replaced with your transaction from nicehash -> Coinbase ? |
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I attempted to transfer the Nicehash to my coinbase but didn't realize there was that when I transferred it I withdraw in BCH to a BTC address and consequently the funds never arrived !
Coinbase has access to your funds, but may choose not to recover them because of operational security. Best to send another ticket to them. I'm not exactly sure what Coinbase's Cross-Chain recovery policy is (that's what this is called!), but it probably requires a decent amount of BTC before they do anything manually. Is there a way of recovering the funds either back to nicehash or onto coinbase ? Without keys to the receiving adresses? No.. You're really dependant on Coinbase willing to credit your funds. I've seen some rumors that they're, *in the future*, going to automatically credit BCH sent to BTC and vice versa- but i'm not sure if that's true yet. See - https://www.reddit.com/r/CoinBase/comments/7ltll8/accidentally_sent_btc_to_bch_wallet_has_anyone/ds3kuue/ && https://www.reddit.com/r/CoinBase/comments/7u4f72/case_3441531_please_help_me_recover_the_btc_2500/dthjo2g/We are currently working on a way to credit customers who sent BTC to a Coinbase BCH address and working to credit customers who sent BCH to a Coinbase BTC address by accident. I am not able to give you a time frame as to when you will be credited if you were affected by this, but rest assured we are working on it.
In the future, please only sent BTC to a BTC address, and BCH to a BCH address.
Thank you for your patience with us as we grow with the digital currency community. Perhaps someone else can shed some light on that. |
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