You don't seem to know how paypal works, or have any/a lot of paypal experience.
If people are saying that you should not use paypal for buying btc, it is because paypal transactions are irreversible, and not btc transactions.
I'll assume you meant that they are reversible. And as a matter of fact I do have quite a lot of experience with PP, especially in regards to BTC. I was here when the scams actually started... Finally, the fact that they are reversible is only part of the issue. If PP actually went to any means to verify whether the "goods" being BTC were actually sent and didn't always side with the buyer we wouldn't have an issue. The problem is that PP doesn't bother, and hence they simply reverse the transaction and the seller gets nothing. |
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Well, looks like the ATL game is a loss. C'est la vie
Yup can't win em all 22 4 weekend I'm still pretty happy lol Yeah, oh well  I've done pretty well following you so far, I think I need to just follow you exclusively (I keep losing using other people's bets). |
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I said you are wrong. It works in both directions. 30 sec search: http://askville.amazon.com/Brought-ebay-refund/AnswerViewer.do?requestId=4243978Brought something off ebay, never came, no refund. What to do? I recently brought a PDA from ebay and after I paid, I looked at the tracking once in a while and one day it said shipped. When I checked the package isn't there. I asked everyone in my family about it, no go. Check the post office, no go. Asked the seller about it, all he replies to me is saying it is shipped. I contacted him many time so after a while of getting no where, I opened a dispute on Paypal. Same thing happened he only reply saying it is shipped. So soon I end the communication and handed it over to Paypal. After their "investigation", they closed the claim and emailed me delineating my claim. Called Paypal about just a few moment ago and they said they won't do anything about it anymore. What should I do? Asked by Devillords 73 months ago Great, so you found an exception. A single exception doesn't really void the rule (especially when are talking about human constructed "rules"). There is a reason why people always tell you to avoid selling your BTC for PP. It's so much easier for a seller to get screwed than a buyer. "I said you are wrong. It works in both directions." How does what work in both directions? A seller cannot claim they got "hacked" and still retain the money they got sent. All a seller can do is provide as much evidence that they actually sent the good and then cross their fingers. The problem is that Paypal general sides with the buyer, so it's far better to be a buyer than a seller on PP. |
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Haha, I would probably do that too if I won what is the equivalent of $20K USD. Would anyone want to see me dance for $20K?  |
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He can't charge back Paypal doesn't bother to check IPs etc, if you cry that a hacker stole your account, PP will be more than happy to issue a chargeback. PP always sides with the buyer and never the seller, so if you have half a brain and just lie your ass off they will take it at face value. Both buyers and sellers can be fucked up. You should search on internet, people selling on eBay, delivering products and getting charged back. This is false. Not really, your example only shows that the seller gets screwed which is what I said. It's a very rare and unlikely possibility that a buyer ever gets screwed if they decide to issue a chargeback on either getting hacked or not receiving their goods and PP does not side with them. I really would like someone to explain to me how a buyer can ever actually get screwed using PP? |
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He can't charge back Paypal doesn't bother to check IPs etc, if you cry that a hacker stole your account, PP will be more than happy to issue a chargeback. PP always sides with the buyer and never the seller, so if you have half a brain and just lie your ass off they will take it at face value. |
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Following you on the ATL ML. I don't like parlaying for 50% return (just my style of play), so I didn't follow on the parlay (nice win though!).
Let's go Dirty Birds!
thanks should of haha and ya gl to us tonight on ATL! Woot, thanks for the advice on the parlay, really helped me out when the soccer bets went uh sour  I'm going to follow you on the Falcons game! |
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Yes, and with pure chance games there's a fallacy of winning and losing streaks. Streaks exist, but you can't predict when they'll start or end.
Pretty much sums up all of the dice games (except the non provably fair, those one's can have predictable streaks usually losing tho). Yeah, if you want to put actual skill into winning something while betting, sports betting or games like poker are the best way to go. |
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Espanyol *should* win, and Liverpool is not going to give the 0-2 away in the 2nd half Hope so! I just put a very heavy bet on stayeduptolate's parlay, so I better win! If I do, I'll be up quite a bit on top of my initial bankroll which is nice. Night all and best of luck with your bets!  |
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I will do that, sorry. I generally do tend to tell people whether I'm confident in a game or not, though. Anyway, in your case, you can make up for the losses by betting a good amount on the parlay that stayeduptolate posted. I'm fairly confident in that one as well, and we all know he has a great record Thanks, yeah I'll go do that now and then retire for the night Fingers crossed it holds out. |
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Liverpool is up 0-2 so far, so that's a winner right there. That puts me in the + for today Yup, I just saw it, now I wished I betted heavier on this game. Would you be able to give an indication of how much you bet on certain games in the future? |
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Wrong, wrong.
Ripple is open source now. There is no 'mining' in Ripple, so it can't be 'pre-mined'. But yes, the founders do have a huge reserve.
It's that massive reserve that I have issues with, it's like creating a new currency and issuing yourself a crap ton of money. Of course there are "economics" issues with it S&D etc but it's still rather concerning for me. |
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uff... too late  Haha, yeah that's the same thought that I had when I realised that they already had a winner. |
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Here for the daily! Nilashoc Thanks. |
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Talked me into it  Also have Tigers -1.5 Baseball +100 for the last reg season game. How confident are you on that bet, I'm wondering how much I should put on it. |
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Well, it seems like posting my picks here brings bad luck. Lets hope for good results from Liverpool, guys. If they win I make up for my losses (by far) England - Premier League - Unsettled (0-0)Sunderland v Liverpool Liverpool to Win -------------------------------------- Italy - Serie A - Won!Juventus v Torino Juventus to Win -------------------------------------- England - Premier League - Lost Stoke v Norwich Stoke to Win -------------------------------------- Italy - Serie A - Lost Sassuolo v Lazio Lazio to Win -------------------------------------- Spain - La Liga - Unsettled (0-0)Getafe v RCD Espanyol RCD Espanyol to Win Yeah, oh well, hopefully the rest win, then we'll be up overall |
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wont have 2 many bets during the week now though as baseball reg season is ending and basketball does not start untill a month
Not to pressure you or anything, but would you have any good bets that your considering right now? (I'm about to go off to snooze for like 10 hours so I don't really want to miss your bets ) |
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Bitcoins currently king.
Yup, for me Bitcoins is my fav, always has and most probably always will be. |
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1.4 k btc profit If you divest in the right time (when profit is up) and invest when it is down, I think that you can make nice money Yup, it just depends on how much you invest and when you invest and whether nakowa is still playing (or other whales) which will lead to a slippery slide of site profits. |
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I think Bitcoin has always been looking good In 2013? Yes. Before? No.  It was great since the day it came out. It was always a good idea, it's just that we needed more adopters initially to get the ball rolling. No point having an idea if nobody uses it. |
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