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1541  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Duplicator, scam or legit? Any experience? on: December 09, 2013, 09:23:31 AM
I changed the title already. But i am still not sure it's scam or not. Thanks for your opinion.

I would bet you my life savings that this is a scam. I would not invest a single cent into this scheme that is entirely designed to steal your coins. Just ignore it, your only going to lose money.
1542  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: ★☆★ 777coin.com - The Modern Bitcoin Casino! ★☆★ [Free mBTC!][Get Yours Now!] on: December 09, 2013, 09:08:06 AM
Nilashoc

Thanks for the daily! Cheesy
1543  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: *******CROWDCAPPER.COM*******Sports betting Picks - ( RECORD 421-114-30) on: December 09, 2013, 08:49:56 AM
Lost a few coins yesterday, so decided to make a long shot parlay before going to sleep. This is what I woke up to.


Congrats on hitting the parlay, nice to see some lucky longshot coming through. The day wasn't too bad for me either, finally hit a NFL parlay after missing a lot of my NCAAF plays.
1544  Economy / Lending / Re: 0.06 loan on: December 09, 2013, 08:44:48 AM
I couldn't find a Dogecoin exchange to get a price estimate, but I doubt they're worth 0.06btc. If you trade them for litecoin, I could give you a smaller loan using that as collateral.

From what I can remember is that Dogecon is just another new altcoin created recently without any volume of trade occurring at the moment. So yeah you'd probably be right in assuming their almost worthless.
1545  Economy / Speculation / Re: It's over. Bitcoin is finished. on: December 09, 2013, 08:09:29 AM
Once agian more people who are just too sour that they didn't get in early. Please stop spreading FUD when you clearly have no understanding of what your talking about.
1546  Economy / Economics / Re: Mining USD? on: December 09, 2013, 08:05:09 AM
I'm already mining alternative currency AUD, but it's very time intensive. I work 9-5 and get rewarded fortnightly. Difficulty has been pretty stable.

What's AUD?

AUD - Australian Dollars
He's just saying he works a job 9-5 so that he can "mine" some money.
1547  Economy / Economics / Re: This forum is under attack by FUD on: December 09, 2013, 08:01:49 AM
but I'm sick of seeing stupid people fall for this every time and they don't listen to any warnings from us more experienced members. In fact you know they're stupid when they ignore more knowledgeable people and just buy into this bullshit anyway.

"Experienced" members are not infallible to making mistakes, they like all humans can and will make mistakes. It's simply that they have more experience to draw upon when making decisions. There is nothing you can do about stupid people, your not going to be able to educate all of them, so honestly you really should just advise them and let them be. Just make sure you don't make the same mistakes you preach against.
1548  Economy / Economics / Re: The PRICE is the VALUE! The Value of Bitcoin EXPLAINED. (really) on: December 09, 2013, 07:40:26 AM
While i generally think this is an interesting point of view, there seems to be one huge flaw with this logic.
To mine gold you need a somehow fixed amount of effort.
The effort to mine bitcoin instead is dependent from the amount of people trying to mine bitcoin.
Higher price of bitcoin -> more people mining -> higher difficulty -> higher cost of hardware -> higher price of bitcoin -> repeat
It is more likely it's the other way around: price of bitcoin dictates how much effort and money people put into it.


For nearly everything the price dictates the amount producers are willing to make and sell, not only for Bitcoin. Using your example of gold, if gold was to fall to $1 overnight for some reason (highly unlikely but this is theoretical) I would guarantee you that all the gold mines would at least temporarily stop production as it is no longer viable and profitable for them to do so. So basically it holds true for nearly everything that the price will affect how much "effort" producers are going to go to.
1549  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Easiest Way on BTC to GBP using Bank Transfer or PayPal? on: December 09, 2013, 05:37:40 AM
I would advise agains using Paypal as there is quite a reasonable chance that you'll get a chargeback if you don't trade with a reputable member. Even then you'd probably be better off using localbitcoins or a bank transfer as it's safer.
1550  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: 3 BTC for 1000$ on: December 09, 2013, 05:32:47 AM
I don't see why people would be foolish enough to believe this is legit considering the account is new and the price is far too good to be true. The not wanting to use an escrow is just further confirmation that this is in all probability a scam.
1551  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Will Dollar worth 0.0001 BTC one day on: December 09, 2013, 05:27:03 AM
It really depends, there is far too much uncertainty to be able to predict whether it will Vegas high as 10k. Honestly, Bitcoin will either succeed and make it big via large scale adoption or will fail miserably and crash and burn. How long it takes to get to either scenario, who knows...
1552  Economy / Speculation / Re: Noob Speculation Madness Journal on: December 09, 2013, 05:23:16 AM
Buying and holding is the surest way to profit.

Knowing at what price to buy is rather important as is when to sell. You'll never know exactly the high or the low so it's up to your judgement and experience to work out when to buy/sell. However, if I were you I would not daytrade more than you can afford to lose, as it can be risky and volatile.
1553  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: 1 BTC Giveaway - NFL Week 13 - BitBook.biz on: December 09, 2013, 05:03:50 AM
got worried then, thought i missed this weeks!

Guessing there wasn't one

Yeah, there wasn't one for this week since the threads are now getting moved from gambling to games and rounds which means there is less exposure for Bitbook. Hence they are currently considering their promotion options.
1554  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: [WTS] 0.025 BTC. Paypal. on: December 08, 2013, 11:26:08 AM
780 usd / btc.

=> 0.025 btc = 19.5 usd.

I'll bite, seeing as your trust looks OK. PM me so we can work out the rest of the details.
1555  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Opinions on investing BTC for 5% a month interest? on: December 08, 2013, 10:52:05 AM
Thanks for your opinion, that's the main problem, how on earth can someone create a business that's based in BTC without someone thinking that it's a scam. It's not a scam but that's the first thing that comes to mind.

What are we doing with the BTC? Well we're not going to divulge exactly what we do but the gist is trading alt currencies and fiat etc etc. The real world does not offer such price volatility hence why we can offer 5% a month.

Now the whole reason for this post was to see if we are wasting out time due to peoples immediate reaction to think everything is a scam. It's a no win situation.

Going on the remotest possibility that your not a scam (and it's a pretty damn big IF) I'll address each of the issues. It's not so much that the business is in BTC as there have been plenty of scams in fiat, the Madoff ponzi scam was a good example of that. Next, all return involves some risk (as the saying goes "no risk, no return") and so if there is such volatility then it is quite possible to lose money. Even if your not a scam, your not infallible to risk getting the better of your investment. Personally, if I were you I would use what savings you have and prove consistently via your trading that you can actually make 5% a month via trading (and post some form of verifiable proof rather than just your word). It's hard to judge whether people will trust you, it's a thing you develop, not something you can expect to happen overnight.
1556  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Opinions on investing BTC for 5% a month interest? on: December 08, 2013, 10:32:27 AM
You invest from 0.5 - 5 BTC and we guarantee a return of 5% a month paid monthly with the option of cashing out your original investment with only 5 working days notice.

Yeah, well I envisage a couple of issues with your "service", namely you have a 0 rep account created rather recently with no trust whatsoever, your asking for an investment between $400 and $4000 (which most people aren't going to give you) and your "offering" 5% per MONTH (nearly impossible in the real world) without explaining what your doing with the money. I'm sorry, but the probability that this is a scam is >99%.
1557  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: ★☆★ 777coin.com - The Modern Bitcoin Casino! ★☆★ [Free mBTC!][Get Yours Now!] on: December 08, 2013, 06:09:20 AM
Nilashoc

Thanks for the daily! Smiley
1558  Economy / Services / Re: (WANTED) Looking for an Assistant for BTC on: December 08, 2013, 02:29:29 AM
You might want to consider including how much your going to be paying people and on what basis. You may also wish to include how many hours you expect this work to take
1559  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: [Giveaway] Earn 0.02 Bitcoin per task + Bonus on: December 07, 2013, 10:55:12 PM
You did not need to do anything like this.
One peek at the site and it was an obvious scam.

I still fail to understand how people can be foolish enough to fall for this and waste their time/compromise their personal info. It's gotten to the point where I feel that people no longer remember the phrase "if it looks too good to be true, it probably is". At least have a think about how the people who run such a site are profiting and if they aren't how are they paying you...
1560  Economy / Lending / Re: Seeking 0.09 btc loan for 1 week on: December 07, 2013, 10:32:38 PM
That doesn't really matter, does it?  I'll show you tradefortress's address, he has even more Tongue  Means nothing.
Also, nobody knows if you actually own that address.

Not unless he actually signs a message with the private key of that address (of course after he actually moves the BTC to another account). Otherwise, yeah one can simply post any old address without any proof that it is actually owned by them.
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