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1821  Economy / Lending / Re: Islamic Bank of Bitcoin - Lending on: December 02, 2013, 12:22:33 PM
You guys can cut out the trolling. IBB was around before most of you guys knew money could be sent online through a medium other than Paypal. sebonzakura and IBB are both long-established and quite reputable, though there was a long hibernation period after the lending subforum imploded. There's no reason to assume OP was not given the project (check his post history), though confirmation from senbonzakura would be nice.

Somewhere, I still have an IBB BTC cheque. Wish I could find it. I think it has .1BTC or so on it. Seems to've disappeared when I last moved.
1822  Other / Meta / Re: Today's Man-In-The-Middle on: December 02, 2013, 11:54:59 AM
I logged on just now via the ip 109.201.133.195 then everything should be peachy right?
Yeah. You can double-check the SSL certificate if you want. SHA1 fingerprint should be 29 0e cc 82 2b 3c ce 0a 73 94 35 a0 26 15 ec d3 eb 1f 46 6b
1823  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: I've been thinking about writing a book on Bitcoin doomsday scenarios... on: December 02, 2013, 11:31:37 AM
What about making this a community work? Everybody who wants writes a chapter while there's still room and proceeds are shared in some way or another? I'd rather not write a whole book but a few chapters would be perfect for my schedule.
This is in line with what I was envisioning and would be especially doable with the website, where consistency can vary a little more. If I'm still interested when the Let's Talk Bitcoin transcription project is done and nobody else goes ahead with this, I think I'll give a more clear outline and get some type of submission/editing system together.

The site could include some fun cross-overs for paranoid schizophrenics. There could be a "Spot the Fed" section where people post images and videos of federal agents in Bitcoin conferences and we create worrying graphs showing the increased infiltration of communities by "TPTB." This could turn into a contest awarding BTC for valid submissions. Idunno if it'd be too "extreme" to be worth approaching Adam & LTB company about doing this as a kind of sister site.
1824  Bitcoin / Project Development / I've been thinking about writing a book on Bitcoin doomsday scenarios... on: December 02, 2013, 11:03:08 AM
It would look at various (some fantastical, some more plausible) doomsday scenarios and suggest how-tos on fixing it from a good number of intelligent people. I would consider this more as a series of paranoid, speculative short stories than some serious rebuttal to reasons 1-1000 Bitcoin will fail. Quality bathroom material, really.

For example, World War 3 breaks out in 2025. The vast majority of computers use SSDs for storage. EMP strikes wipe out most data across the world. Countries enforce economic sanctions by cutting off connections to the countries they're sanctioning. The Internet is no longer unified, and the Americas have no connection to "the big continent."

Well, assuming we don't have many renegade satellite ISPs willing to host the blockchain (rather, that Richard Branson is a big, fat vagina [corner-image, Richard Branson with vagina-face subtitled "Doing space somersaults as Bitcoin dies."), we'd probably need to come up with a terrestrial mesh network. People in the Americas would be particularly fucked, because unlike England with the Dover Strait, where the ~4 mile wireless connection would be relatively trivial, there aren't many easy ways for America to connect to "the big continent." Americans couldn't profitably mine (due to orphans54) nor trust transactions (due to low hashpower55). The cheapest way to connect the Americas to "the big continent" would be going along the Bering Strait, with powerful high-frequency radio towers on the Diomede islands and perhaps "WiFi buoys" going along the water for redundancy [corner image, Dimoede islands & Bering Strait with illustration of how wireless connection would occur]. These islands will probably be hotly contested and any equipment there disabled.

Are there alternative routes or more discrete ways of creating that connection? What if we developed geographical coins (Americoin, Eurocoin, Asiacoin) and used bitcoins as the reserve currency? Would Bitcoin be used in cut-off countries merely by sneakernet?

Plausibility, dangers, and solutions as suggested by experts X, Y, and Z... (round-table discussion format - moderator gives prompt, guests discuss, new prompt, discuss, prompt, discuss, prompt, discuss)

Other scenarios:
  • Transacting in virtual currencies declared illegal everywhere.
  • Satoshi Nakamoto's identity revealed. Satoshi is found to be an international criminal wanted for child abuse, distributing child pornography, orchestrating 9/11, and executing Jesus.
  • secp256k1 proven weak, thousands of coins stolen. Effectively rolling back the blockchain would negate transactions worth hundreds of thousands in coins.
  • Samsung hard drive firmware found to scan and upload Bitcoin wallets to rogue employee.
  • The Satosh Infection!
  • HSBC subsidiary deploys 24,783,692GH/s in ASICs on the network. (bonus content: cost to 51% various virtual currency networks)
  • Dick Cheney endorses Bitcoin.
  • The 10TB blockchain.

I'd guess a formulaic method for content creation would be reasonable, similar to how Cracked articles are formatted.
Scenario
The Problem
Possible solutions
Discussion
Conclusion
(plausibility and potential damage rating)

Back of book contains vocabulary section listed alphabetically and as they appear in book (like with orphans54, you'd go to "54" in the vocabulary index). The book cover would necessarily be the most badass of any in a B&M store, with Putin shooting panicked children as Obama goes diving to cut undersea communications cables and Chinese nanodrones fly around in search of paper wallets to scan and upload.

Lifespan post-book could be extended as a regular blog-style site, with new scenarios posted regularly (this could also be done in reverse - website first, then book). Book can be self-funded, copyleft-similar (would need to look into proper license) in digital format, sold in physical format for cash, with proceeds split between authors, editor, and experts (on top of up-front payment, if necessary). Website monetization model steals Let's Talk Bitcoin tip-per-segment idea, with tips split between content producers. Minimal site sponsorship to pay web hosting costs - maybe one rotating banner ad.

Unsure how serious I am about this, so feel free to take the idea and run with it. I'd probably buy it.
1825  Economy / Speculation / Re: Has the 'boom' finished? on: December 02, 2013, 09:36:30 AM
Here you go: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=br.eti.fml.satoshi

Turn the volume up and enjoy as much sleep as allowed.
1826  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bears Bunker - Official thread on: December 02, 2013, 09:06:57 AM
An exchange can have $10M in ExchangeUSD IOUs, but actually only have $5M in USD to pay out. This fractional reserve system (or in this example, probably insolvency) works so long as there isn't any kind of "bank run" on the exchange.
That is theft. Money transfer companies in the US or Japan are not allowed to do that. Funds on deposit belong to the customer, not the exchange. Not "are owed to", but "belong to". This the difference between going bankrupt and going to jail.
Of course they're not allowed to, but laws don't define reality.
Reality check:

BERNARD L MADOFF    
Prisoner #61727-054
Location: Federal Correctional Institution, Butner, NC
Charges: Securities fraud, investment advisor fraud, mail fraud, wire fraud, money laundering...
Release date: 11-14-2139    

Bitcoin isn't exempt from fraud laws. Ask Trendon Shavers. "Unfortunately for him, the associated jail time for the crime isn’t virtual." - WSJ
You'll notice they still committed the acts even though they were illegal. Someone else can still do it. Exchanges can still operate on a fractional reserve system because laws don't put up a reality protection field which automagically prevents crimes.
1827  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: [BOUNTY] 0.15 BTC per transcript of LetsTalkBitcoin on: December 02, 2013, 08:57:16 AM
Articles submitted beyond this line will be rejected without pay (until it's resubmitted with proper modifications) if they regularly start sentences with conjunctions

I have a question on the conjunctions. I'm about 50 min into 1:17 of episode 6, and I'm having a little bit of trouble with the way Jeffrey Tucker speaks. Specifically, he uses a lot of sentence fragments that are strung together with conjunctions or filler words like *and* or *you know*. I try to cut them out when I can but sometimes the 'You Knows' seem to capture Jeffrey's speaking style, and sometimes they seem as just filler.



Which is better:
Time = 47:15  https://soundcloud.com/mindtomatter/e06-cyprus-serendipity-lets
#1 or
Code:
 But the same kind of thing, you know, it also happened in education. 
#2
Code:
 But the same kind of thing also happened in education. 

I also find myself using a lot of commas. JT tends to put short pauses between thoughts and I am not sure whether to use commas or periods. I'm wondering if it is just better to have a lot of short sentences or a long sentence with commas for the pauses.
I'd keep the "you know" in that case, but change some other things around. ", but the same kind of thing, you know - it also happened in education, it's happened in healthcare, it's happened in [whatever the other example was]." Semicolons, colons, hyphens, and double hyphen-minuses are all acceptable to me, though semicolons and colons are preferable. Kieran does a great job with handling sentence structure to preserve thought flow (way better than I) - so if you're looking for some good examples, check out his transcripts.

I also find myself using a lot of commas. JT tends to put short pauses between thoughts and I am not sure whether to use commas or periods. I'm wondering if it is just better to have a lot of short sentences or a long sentence with commas for the pauses.


i.e. Commas:
Time = 44:20  https://soundcloud.com/mindtomatter/e06-cyprus-serendipity-lets
Code:
You know I don’t think it's a coincidence at all that we saw the rise of Bitcoin at the time that we’ve seen it - right after the currency crisis of 2008. 
That really put everybody on notice, something is not working about the system. You know it’s exactly that period the regulators, the Fed and the Treasury
and everything, they sent the entire system into a gigantic upheaval that’s fundamentally changed its workability. Banks today don’t work anything like what
they worked like ten years ago. It’s a completely different operation. They make money in a different way, their reserves are handled in a completely different
way, the Federal Reserve is totally dedicated to [hampering] down interested to zero, to negative. Money and the financial system just isn't working the way
it used to work, so Satoshi’s invention, you know with Bitcoin, comes along really at exactly the right time. It’s kind of the perfect storm in many ways.

or periods:
Code:
You know I don’t think it’s a coincidence at all that we saw the rise of Bitcoin at the time that we’ve seen it - right after the currency crisis of 2008. 
That really put everybody on notice. Something is not working about the system. You know it’s exactly that period the regulators - the Fed and the Treasury
and everything - they sent the entire system into a gigantic upheaval that’s fundamentally changed its workability. Banks today don’t work anything like what
they worked like ten years ago. It’s a completely different operation. They make money in a different way. Their reserves are handled in a completely different
way. The Federal Reserve is totally dedicated to [hampering] down interested to zero. To negative. Money and the financial system just isn't working the way
it used to work. Satoshi’s invention - you know with Bitcoin - comes along really at exactly the right time. It’s kind of the perfect storm in many ways.

That probably wasn't the best example, but hopefully you can see what I'm talking about.

Note: I absolutely love his analysis of economics and bitcoin. I'm really glad I was able to sit down and write this transcript because he brings up so many good points of view that I didn't pick up on when I was listening to the podcast.
I'd change to (Kieran could probably further correct this):

I don’t think it's a coincidence at all that we saw the rise of Bitcoin at the time that we’ve seen it: right after the currency crisis of 2008. That really put everybody on notice: something is not working about the system. It’s exactly that period the regulators, the Fed, and the Treasury, and everything - they sent the entire system into a gigantic upheaval that’s fundamentally changed its workability. Banks today don’t work anything like what they worked like ten years ago; it’s a completely different operation. They make money in a different way, their reserves are handled in a completely different way. The Federal Reserve is totally dedicated to [hampering] down interest [rates] to zero, to negative. Money and the financial system just isn't working the way it used to work, so Satoshi’s invention, Bitcoin, comes along, really at exactly the right time. It’s kind of the perfect storm in many ways.
1828  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bears Bunker - Official thread on: December 02, 2013, 08:08:03 AM
An exchange can have $10M in ExchangeUSD IOUs, but actually only have $5M in USD to pay out. This fractional reserve system (or in this example, probably insolvency) works so long as there isn't any kind of "bank run" on the exchange.
That is theft. Money transfer companies in the US or Japan are not allowed to do that. Funds on deposit belong to the customer, not the exchange. Not "are owed to", but "belong to". This the difference between going bankrupt and going to jail. For Japan, read the Payment Services Act. I don't know about Slovenia or Romania.

This is why fractional reserve banks are regulated, have capital requirements, and are backed up by deposit insurance.  For why, see Emergency Banking Act in Wikipedia.
Of course they're not allowed to, but laws don't define reality.
1829  Other / Archival / Re: Americans.. on: December 01, 2013, 08:58:05 AM
Oh - I was curious. Did any of the BTC betting books carry a bet on the number of people who would die shopping on Black Friday? It's definitely in the offensively insensitive area, but I figure if life insurance policies can be considered collateral...

I'd get a kick out of seeing "Bitcoin Betting Market Accurately Predicts Number Dead on Black Friday." I guess it'd probably be "New Bitcoin Murder Market - Encouraging Your Kids to Kill for Money?"
1830  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bears Bunker - Official thread on: December 01, 2013, 07:35:40 AM
We have an interesting event coming up - on the next downturn, many new speculators will cash out and will demand money from exchanges. Some of the exchanges aren't going to make it.

Why would the exchanges not have the required funds to pay out? If you sell your bitcoins on an exchange, there must be a buyer with fiat on the exchange ready to buy it.
They're supposed to, but all they're really doing is exchanging ExchangeBTC for ExchangeUSD and then processing withdrawals, but only for those who request it. A significant amount of money is stored on exchanges because banks suck and it takes a long while to actually move fiat around. To that significant group of people, it makes sense to keep some money on exchanges long-term for short-term trading.

An exchange can have $10M in ExchangeUSD IOUs, but actually only have $5M in USD to pay out. This fractional reserve system (or in this example, probably insolvency) works so long as there isn't any kind of "bank run" on the exchange.

MtGox and BTC-e (maybe BTC-e still does - Idunno) used to have "code money." That is, you could withdraw fiat and BTC in the form of GoxUSD or GoxBTC - debt notes, represented by a hash, similar to Bitcoin. You could trade these notes around, and they offered excellent advantages, but also the very serious drawback that Gox may not honor the IOUs. These IOUs, it should be noted, are effectively the same as the balance you see in your account on an exchange -- they're not necessarily representing actual money. When Gox started issuing these IOUs as a withdrawal method, there was a very slight premium over face value due to the convenience they offered. However, when Gox's future started looking uncertain, GoxUSD and GoxBTC started trading at a discount under face value. This was because the debt notes (the same as account balances in exchange accounts) may not have been fully backed by Gox's reserves. Gox eventually discontinued issuing these debt notes due to regulations.
1831  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin under 1000$ tomorrow ! on: December 01, 2013, 07:08:18 AM
I've always been curious, why do some people put the dollar sign after the number?  That seems so unusual to me..
Varies by country. Most Western countries have it as $1,000. In Eastern countries, it often looks more like 1.000$.
1832  Economy / Speculation / Re: $999 party! on: December 01, 2013, 06:45:38 AM
I feel it in my bones. It's dancing with $1k. It's ready for the drop to let us back in!

Wut? Stamp bears partied without you.
BFX never quite hit it due to a fairly small (~106BTC) bid wall at $1k which kept it from hitting the BSTMP price.
1833  Economy / Speculation / $999 party! on: December 01, 2013, 06:40:25 AM
I feel it in my bones. It's dancing with $1k. It's ready for the drop to let us back in!
1834  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: casascius and other physical bitcoins is a fraudulent idea on: December 01, 2013, 05:04:33 AM
The OP is not accusing Caucasus of stealing, he says people shouldn't trust physical coins. Even if you buy a Caucasus coin from someone, the seller could have peeked behind the seal, using the right equipment, especially if BTC price is high.
That's true. I took issue with the idea that Cas should be shamed for not spending his time promoting alternatives when he's providing a legitimate good where the operator's never really done anything wrong. Taking issue with trying to make Cas a specific target, I didn't address the real message. Cas' model is terrible if you don't really trust the person issuing the coins.
1835  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: [BOUNTY] 0.15 BTC per transcript of LetsTalkBitcoin on: December 01, 2013, 04:54:51 AM
Anyone know how to add a break after a break in LibreOffice? I don't want it double-spaced, but sometimes, when I download a .docx file, it removes all the line spacing after a speaker's finished.

So... in LibreOffice (looks totally fine on Scribd), it looks like
Code:
AA:  With me today, we have Gavin Andresen, chief scientist of the Bitcoin Foundation and also lead developer of Bitcoin who gave us some great information on ASICs mining and consensus voting as well as the new payment protocols in 0.9.  Gavin, thank you so much for joining us today.
GA:  Thanks for having me, I really enjoy listening to the show.
AA:  That’s a great honor and we hope to have you back soon, thank you.
when it should look like
Code:
AA:  With me today, we have Gavin Andresen, chief scientist of the Bitcoin Foundation and also lead developer of Bitcoin who gave us some great information on ASICs mining and consensus voting as well as the new payment protocols in 0.9.  Gavin, thank you so much for joining us today.

GA:  Thanks for having me, I really enjoy listening to the show.

AA:  That’s a great honor and we hope to have you back soon, thank you.

ETA: Nevermind. Figured out a solution. (in case I forget) In Paragraph->Indents&Spacing there is a "Spacing" tab. Add .2" before and after paragraphs.
1836  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: [BOUNTY] 0.15 BTC per transcript of LetsTalkBitcoin on: December 01, 2013, 03:41:03 AM
Hey,

I just wanted to note that I don't see episode 36 anywhere in the PR queue.  Could you let me know its status?

Sorry, I missed it, and even the two times you posted about it (I generally only read posts with links in here). It's added in there, now.

Take e46 from me. Proxy person never got to it.

If anyone's done a transcription and doesn't see their thread on the queue, lemme know. Better yet, just send me the Scribd link via PM when you finish one to make sure I add it.
1837  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Late Adopter on: December 01, 2013, 03:19:14 AM
I'm bearish on short-term price (though... I have been bearish from $450-950, panic-bought at $950, then bearish again starting @ $1100 [I swore off short-term trading a long time ago, but needed to cash out and am doing it much slower than I intended]), but you're not a late adopter by any reasonable measurement.
1838  Other / Off-topic / Re: Looking for browser plugin/extension which verifies hyperlinks on: December 01, 2013, 02:16:08 AM
No worries. Like I said, this idea is interesting enough to me that I'd probably pursue it without a bounty, although anything people are willing to pledge would certainly hurry its development along Wink

Just to clarify - this extension would compare the hyperlinked text with the target URL, and change the formatting (e.g. highlight green/red for good/bad) depending on the "accuracy" of the URL?

Would you also want it to work for text links (Bitcoin) or would it be necessary only for full URLs (http://www.bitcoin.org/)?
Yeah.

I guess checking URLs and "normal" text links both would be preferable. It'd probably help with remembering I need to still hover over text links.
1839  Other / Off-topic / Re: Looking for browser plugin/extension which verifies hyperlinks on: December 01, 2013, 02:05:25 AM
You're right, this would useful, and I can't seem to find an existing plugin that already performs this function. I'm considering coding my own solution, since this seems easy enough to get right - would you be interested?
Yeah. Can't offer much in the way of bounty, though - why I was hoping a solution already existed.  Cheesy
1840  Economy / Lending / Re: Looking for a 1btc loan... FUNDED on: December 01, 2013, 02:03:51 AM
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