we're up to 252! 48 remaining. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AjCZrDbAiz_PdE4tbDR3X3owMHNMb1NyekJGWHN4QlE&usp=sharingI am interested in how you will be gathering the shipping address when the time comes and privacy issues. (It is, of course, not acceptable that this information gets entered onto your Google Docs spreadsheet, for example.)
Here is a thought / suggestion.
Step 1) You send PM stating it is time to pay and with the address to send the BTC as well as an email address to receive the shipping information.
Step 2) Buyer sends you email stating that payment has been sent for <forum nick> to <BTC address> and including the shipping address.
Step 3) You reply to email acknowledging payment and that you see no problem with the shipping address which was provided via email.
NOTE 1: At least step 2 cannot be done via PM. Some folks might not be willing to submit Personally Identifiable Information (PII) via/to "bitcointalk.org".
NOTE 2: At the conclusion of this group buy you will have the identities of scores of nicks used on this forum in your possession. What is your commitment regarding stewardship of that information?
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An apology if you've already addressed the issue and I overlooked it.
excellent suggestion. sounds like a plan. as to stewardship of the info, i'll delete the relevant emails once i know the usb miners have reached their destinations successfully. |
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ARE YOU PEOPLE NUTS?! $230 for a device that's 1/16th the speed of the $275 BFL machine? These should be $30. $40 tops.
delivery time, novelty value, loathing of bfl, etc... it's all been said. |
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omen, for the love of bitcoin, PLEASE pop off a side of that box and move the fans. the way it is now is horrendous airflow. it hurts to look at.  |
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I've already committed to 5. If we end up short (on payment) I will commit to an additional 5 (possibly more). There may be others willing to do so as well. It would just take me about a week to get the coinage (initial funding via dwolla, etc.) Note: this is *not* a request to up my current order  understood. hopefully won't be an issue. i wish i knew more people locally who were into bitcoin... could ask them to join in. oh well. |
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I'm sure too now that you gather more than 300 hundred orders, that clears this whole problem away. I was just pointing this out so that you could consider early on what to do if you end up just little over 300. BTW, that European group order (in which I am part of with my humble 1 or 2 units) is now at minimum 386 USBees.
well screw them! (joking! well done guys.)
Heh I'm in Europe (not really, I'm in the UK) and I would get my order earlier with them but I'm sticking here. BTW hopefully Bitfountain will realise how hard is going to be selling 10K units at this price and cut it a bit. we can hope! the lowering price, i mean. i bet anything ya like that if the price were even 1.5 btc, the number of sales would skyrocket. |
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unless someone else has a better idea, then, in short, yea. we'd be screwed.
I'd suggest just taking extra orders to be filled in place of people who Welch or get hit by a bus. The slope of the order curve indicates to me that there will not be much trouble obtaining enough overage to cover likely wash-outs (absent a giant leap in BTC valuations.) Also, I thought that ~friedcat simply specified a minimum. So if more than 300 units are ordered and payed up they could all possibly recieve joy. I think that the most important thing is to get to the 300 before those damned foreigners so our order goes first. But since everyone loves Americans it could be that we get the priority we deserve just as Jesus intended even if we don't cross the finish line first. (I should check how the German effort is going before blabbing I suppose...) well yea, i'll gladly take MORE then 300 orders! as to the other bit: BHAHAHAH! I'm sure too now that you gather more than 300 hundred orders, that clears this whole problem away. I was just pointing this out so that you could consider early on what to do if you end up just little over 300. BTW, that European group order (in which I am part of with my humble 1 or 2 units) is now at minimum 386 USBees. well screw them! (joking! well done guys.) |
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unless someone else has a better idea, then, in short, yea. we'd be screwed.
I'd suggest just taking extra orders to be filled in place of people who Welch or get hit by a bus. The slope of the order curve indicates to me that there will not be much trouble obtaining enough overage to cover likely wash-outs (absent a giant leap in BTC valuations.) Also, I thought that ~friedcat simply specified a minimum. So if more than 300 units are ordered and payed up they could all possibly recieve joy. I think that the most important thing is to get to the 300 before those damned foreigners so our order goes first. But since everyone loves Americans it could be that we get the priority we deserve just as Jesus intended even if we don't cross the finish line first. (I should check how the German effort is going before blabbing I suppose...) well yea, i'll gladly take MORE then 300 orders! as to the other bit: BHAHAHAH! |
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Do you include free shipping to Malaysia ?
uh... while friedcat ships the whole 300 batch for free, i cannot afford to do so, even within my own country. hence the .05 btc shipping cost. as you can see from the spreadsheet, there are people in china and new zealand on the list, as well as one in london. i'll add you to the list if you REALLY want, but chances are shipping wouldn't be in your favor, and certainly not free. |
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I don't want to pee on your cereals, but have you considered the possibility that someone doesn't pay their order in timely manner or at all? What do you do then? This of course isn't a problem if you gather interest for over 300 pieces, because then you can just drop out those who haven't paid, but if you end up on exectly or just a few over 300 then everybody must wait for the last payments and because time is of essence when purchasing mining gear you might end up with some very angry customers.
In my last group buy, once orders were open it was first come first serve. This is just to gauge interest before beginning. I understand that this is only a preliminary list of people who are interested. The product isn't even available yet. But, when the time comes to actually make the order and start collecting peoples coins, what if somebody just doesn't pay? If I have understud it correctly, Arklan doesn't have the ~600 BTC to make the purchase by himself, not even close. If somebody who has said that he/she would like to have for example 10 USB miners but doesn't send the money when it's time, the group is short for ~20 BTC. What is going to happen then? Are you going to wait until that somebody pays? And what if that somebody doesn't pay at all but disappears from the forum? Are you going to wait until somebody else takes those 10 miners? This could take days. unless someone else has a better idea, then, in short, yea. we'd be screwed. |
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Can anyone translate what exactly we are going to receive in the future in terms of 'upgrades'?
new boards with new chips, i think. |
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i can't help but wonder if the share price is being effected by the reaction to the whole 1.99 usb miner thing. lot of people were caught of guard by that, to say the least.
USB miners has roughly the same hashing power at a fraction of the size and power usage. If they don't want them, they can stick with their GPUs and all their issues. yea, i know. i'm not complaining about it. heck, i'm organizing a group buy of em. but you can't deny it surprised a lot of people, and not in a good way. that kind of thing strikes me as exactly the sort of thing that effects the sentiment around a stock. |
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i can't help but wonder if the share price is being effected by the reaction to the whole 1.99 usb miner thing. lot of people were caught of guard by that, to say the least.
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...who's the dongster?
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Heh. 'John the Dong' before he wisely switched to a less juvenile form of self expression. At least I am pretty sure that is the case. Right John K.?  ooooh yea. |
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Just out of curiosity, what is the plan when orders start? Its easy to say that 300 people have committed to buy, but it is much harder to say that 300 people have transferred the bitcoins.
Just wondering why you are not accepting transfers right away, as it would gauge real interest and allow people to 'buy' and be done with it. The reason is, I might be pretty busy coming up and might not have time to watch the thread and get in on a buy, or watch for changes etc.
i don't want people sending btc to john and him have to send them right back if we don't reach 300. as for not watching the thread, no big. i'll be PMing everyone as well. |
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