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1821  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XRP] Ripple Speculation on: May 21, 2017, 07:52:27 AM
I wouldnt care if it dumped all the way back to $.10. I'd just buy a shitload more and hold. When i got in I wasn't expecting to see any profits for a while. Ive been very pleasantly surprised by XRP and I'm sure it will continue to make me happy in the future. I always saw it as a long term investment.
bro, thats the reason it wont goto 20cents , or 30cents and soon 40, then 50 then $1+ lol

i think ,we all think like you  Smiley
+ as time passes new people buy slighty higher than older buyers and are willing to pay more if it is cheaper than their entry price.

I agree and I predict $2 by the end of this year. XRP is up 12% since yesterday. We've seen $0.4+ already and I'm sure we will see it again pretty soon.
Also I think most people who bought under $0.05 sold their coins already so no major dump expected.
1822  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in - Win free Bitcoins every hour! on: May 20, 2017, 04:01:42 PM
I did some maths... and if the number is really fair, the average roll will give 2-3 cents... (If you would roll 100,000 times, it would probably be 2-3 cents average). How is this profitable for you? 2 cents would mean you have to get $20 per thousand visits to have enough money to pay your users... But how does that work? Really... I'm curious... Is it simply because most users lose it all in the Multiply BTC or is it some dark secret you don't want us to know?

How did you arrive at 2-3 cents for the average roll? The top Free BTC roll prize is $200, it's fixed along with all prize levels below it, regardless of the price of bitcoin.
Lmao... I understand that it's all fixed. That's how I arrived at 2-3 cents (I did it in my head and my head isn't that exact Tongue) the exact value is: $0.027137, so basically 2.7 cents.

I can show you my calculation if you want..

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JtwnXVjswztX0gVzqffW0gaKppQyWGG_dl4Kcnt6HDg/edit?usp=sharing

That's the document I put clear calculations in.

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If there are 6 available prizes, being the maximum 200$ 0.1$ st the moment, and each prize is divided by 10, the you have 0.1/0.01/0.001/0.0001/0.00001/0.000001 then, it would be 200$/20$/2$/0.2$/0.02$/0.002$, and that 0.002$ is the average roll on every user
I don't get what you're trying to say... 0.002$ is the average roll on every user? That's nonsense. $0.002 is like the base roll and because there is a chance on the higher prizes, it adds to that base roll. On average, you will hit the $200 every 10,000 rolls, so you basically get $0.02 (2 cents) every roll you play. It's simple maths bro. If you roll 1 million times, I'm pretty sure you would get ~27k worth of moneys

It's not at all guaranteed that you will hit the $200 every 10,000 rolls, but I just want to add my 2 cents to that "~27k worth of moneys" thing.

You can make a freeroll every hour so you have 24 free rolls per day at most. 24x365=8,760 free rolls per year.
You'll need 114 years to make 1,000,000 rolls. Smiley
1823  Economy / Services / Re: Ⓣ Ⓣ Ⓣ Torcoin Signature Campaign Ⓣ Ⓣ Ⓣ on: May 20, 2017, 03:38:47 PM
Hello, iluvbitcoins!

As I can see some people are already wearing an Avatar, like this, for example:



So my question is, should we all wear it? Or is it just their voluntary initiative?  Smiley
1824  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is Bitcoin money? on: May 20, 2017, 03:27:23 PM
Bitcoin is money for me because you can exchange it into fiat. Also even online bitcoin is indeed a money were theres some online store that accept bitcoin. Last, fast transactions when exchange into fiat.

Transactions are not fast lately unless you pay over $1 for a transaction. And if you can exchange something into fiat doesn't prove it is money. But nevertheless I think bitcoin is money because you can buy goods with it and you can pay with it for some services.
1825  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Any future for Dogecoin? on: May 20, 2017, 01:36:18 PM
Doge have a huge ampunt of supply so expecting for it on big price in the future is kinda impossible. 1k satoshi is already big enough for doge to achieve but if you dream that it will match like ethereum or litecoin then you are definitely just dreaming.
But do not underestimate the market manipulators, some 2 to 3 weeks back dogecoin was trading below 20 satoshi and now trading around 78 satoshi. Anything may happen but I am sure it may come back to origin points too. So, dogecoins are good for trading and not for planning up for futures.

not much potential. relatively stable between 0.00000076 and 0.00000078.
In recent times, it went down up to 71 satoshi in few exchanges. But compared to many other established coins, doge stays stable.

Although DOGE is 0.0000008 right now I agree with you that it is relatively stable in BTC for the last month. What we can definitely say about DOGE is that it is not a dying coin, because the interest in it is still huge, it is listed on 300+ markets, and the trading volume is over $5 million on Poloniex alone.
1826  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Giving up gambling is not easy on: May 20, 2017, 01:05:07 PM
really?? giving in gambling is easy? Honestly I've only ever heard people say that, as far as I know many gamblers do not want to take giving in gambling because too many rules and surely you will face obstacles when you want to request a withdraw.

It is not easy , it is a very ahrd thing to do. I can only say that when people say that it is easy, that means the person is not heavily addicted yet so he can let go of it easily. When someone is heavily addicted like me than doing that kind of thing will be hard. The only way is to gamble for fun with small amount

I'm not addicted to gambling for now, but I heard that everyone becomes more or less addicted to it with time. And I think if I will be a gambling addict one day I'll use your advice. It's not like I see this for the first time, of course I've seen similar ideas many times on this forum, and as long as many gamblers say the same thing I think it makes sense to listen to it.
Listening on someones advice is really a worth thing and you are right its being mentioned already times on this forum but those advices will only applicable on person do have strong discipline and awareness to themselves but when the time that those people who give advice get addicted im sure they will surely have a hard time on applying those advices that he said to other people.
i think we are listening advises all the time from our elders, but i think the difficult is to apply, we just listen the advise from one ear and pass it out through the other ear, i think one of the most difficult job is to practically adopt and accept the advises, some time we we even know about some thing that is not good n our favour but still we keep on going and not even try to stop it, that is all  because that we are addicted and find it hard to stop it.

No doubt it's hard to stop it, this whole thread is dedicated to this problem, and we are trying to find a solution here. One option, for example, is treating gambling as an entertainment only.
1827  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XRP] Ripple Speculation on: May 20, 2017, 12:47:16 PM
Last two days for were time to shake the remaining weak hands out of the next full speed flight. Ripple is just taking off for next run some people thought it was downtrend but they were unable to understand the strategy of whales. We are going towards 40k satoshi this time in my opinion. Where I bought I am ready to check the maximum trading point.

I agree with you. I think people who were selling Ripple "before it's too late" because they bought under 1k satoshis and thought that otherwise they will never get a chance to make such profit are almost done already and from now on it will be rising.
1828  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Any future for Dogecoin? on: May 19, 2017, 02:39:03 PM
I recently found approximately 600 Dogecoins in my wallet, I know, it's a petty number but I was still curious, does that coin have any future?I've seen a small increase in price recently, should I keep them or exchange them for BTC? Any ways to earn any Dogecoins?

The price of DOGE in BTC stays almost on the same level for almost 3 years already. The recent rising of the price in USD resembles the the rising in USD of many altcoins recently and IMO it says more about the advantage over fiat of cryptocurrencies in general rather than about any crypto in particular.
1829  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are you positive or negativeO? on: May 19, 2017, 02:19:54 PM
I'm negative but I'm okay with that because what I have lost is under $15 in total. Actually I don't gamble much since I don't have time for it. I have to study for my future and have to work to have some money in present.
1830  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2017-05-16]Bitcoin Made Way For the Altcoins In the Cryptocurrency Market on: May 19, 2017, 02:07:58 PM
It has been said million times already. Market Cap. is nothing but scam. It proves nothing.

You can come up with a new coin with the supply of 50 billion coins and when you trade one for a dollar, market cap will look like it is 50billion$. This is exactly what is going on with ripple especially. I don't know about the others but i am pretty sure many of them are scam like ripple as well.

Without real demand from real people, market cap. is a worthless parameter.

I'm not sure, but you may be right in a way on the Market Cap. But what about Trading Volume(24)? Ripple has over $290 million in trading volume today, for example. This is something different from what you've mentioned, right? This means lots of people buy it, and I don't think most of them are from the Ripple team.



There is a thing called fake trades, where one buy his own coin and sell it to himself to produce volume and make the currency noticeable, making people think that there is a big demand for that coin.  The question is why does this coin keep on producing several thousands of BTC volume and yet never depleted the supply.  One example is XRP.

This works only with coins with trading volume under $100k. When you have over $200 million trading volume in 24h you will lose so much on fees doing what you described that no one wants that.
1831  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to control greed on gambling? on: May 19, 2017, 12:57:44 PM
That's true. When we win we forget about cautiousness, we think it's our lucky day and we bet more and more until we lose it all. That's why in any case we shouldn't play with more than we can afford to lose.

We should not play more than what we can afford and only use a small amount. Sometimes even when we can afford more than $100 to gamble, it is still better to use a smaller amount instead. Gambling is unpredictable therefore I dont like to take that risk so it is better to gamble with a small amount everytime

That is the general theory here. But most of the time gamblers forget this and they risk more than what they can lose, and they try to bite the bullet and in the end they get burned and lose the money. That's how it is for most gamblers, especially newbies. Then you get addicted then you lose more.

winning time we remember all strategies and we follow our plans. If we start to get the loss that time we will forget all plans and we only try to get back our loss. In this process, of course, we lose more money that we can not afford. It is human nature we can not control our greed when we are in tension.

Like we can control it while we are relaxed. It's more like a vicious cycle, greed makes us tense and then we can't control it because we are in tension. The only solution is to stop being greedy or, in other words, we should not think we can earn money with gambling.
1832  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Giving up gambling is not easy on: May 19, 2017, 12:46:27 PM
really?? giving in gambling is easy? Honestly I've only ever heard people say that, as far as I know many gamblers do not want to take giving in gambling because too many rules and surely you will face obstacles when you want to request a withdraw.

It is not easy , it is a very ahrd thing to do. I can only say that when people say that it is easy, that means the person is not heavily addicted yet so he can let go of it easily. When someone is heavily addicted like me than doing that kind of thing will be hard. The only way is to gamble for fun with small amount

I'm not addicted to gambling for now, but I heard that everyone becomes more or less addicted to it with time. And I think if I will be a gambling addict one day I'll use your advice. It's not like I see this for the first time, of course I've seen similar ideas many times on this forum, and as long as many gamblers say the same thing I think it makes sense to listen to it.
Listening on someones advice is really a worth thing and you are right its being mentioned already times on this forum but those advices will only applicable on person do have strong discipline and awareness to themselves but when the time that those people who give advice get addicted im sure they will surely have a hard time on applying those advices that he said to other people.

Yeah, sometimes we don't see right and wrong in our own views because we are clouded with either fear, guilt, arrogance and greed. Listening to others opinion is refreshing and it clears your head a bit and you realize what is truly right from wrong.

Thanks for your support guys! That's why I think it is not pointless to repeat the same thing again and again when it's true. Gambling is a big problem for many people and for their families and if a good solution is found it should be repeated many times to be seen by many.
1833  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XRP] Ripple Speculation on: May 19, 2017, 12:23:17 PM
Just take a good profit before it's too late. There will be some bad news coming next days.
Proof or liar!!!!!!!

Although I'm a big fun of bitcoin, I think it is very unlikely that we'll here any bad news about Ripple in coming days. In my opinion XRP has a very bright future because it doesn't compete with bitcoin but rather helps its users in a way (remember The Bitcoin Bridge).

Do you want to take a big profit after investing XRP for a while . Yes or No if you are an investor ?
It's simple to understand why They want to sell this coin at this time.
lols...your comment for me is not simple to understand  Smiley

Yes, I can't understand it either. If they mean it's time to sell all your XRP then I disagree. I think that now Ripple is going down a bit because many people who bought it at much lower price think they already made a good profit and that it's better to sell now before it's too late. But IMO they will regret their decision in a month or two.
1834  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is better? To gamble or to invest? on: May 18, 2017, 06:24:55 PM
I'm happy to join this argument. For my point of view, investment would be more preferable to gambling. I think, investment would create better profit than gambling. If you can manage a good platform of investing then your money would be in a good shape, on the other hand, if you want to participate in gambling then you can't be assured of gaining profit.

And you can't be sure that your investment will be profitable either. I'm not saying gambling is better than investment, but it should be clear that you can lose with some investments even more than you can lose to gambling because it is very unlikely that you would succeed in persuading your relatives to give you money for gambling, but you can do that with an investment more easily.
1835  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2017-05-16]Bitcoin Made Way For the Altcoins In the Cryptocurrency Market on: May 18, 2017, 05:49:56 PM
It has been said million times already. Market Cap. is nothing but scam. It proves nothing.

You can come up with a new coin with the supply of 50 billion coins and when you trade one for a dollar, market cap will look like it is 50billion$. This is exactly what is going on with ripple especially. I don't know about the others but i am pretty sure many of them are scam like ripple as well.

Without real demand from real people, market cap. is a worthless parameter.

I'm not sure, but you may be right in a way on the Market Cap. But what about Trading Volume(24)? Ripple has over $290 million in trading volume today, for example. This is something different from what you've mentioned, right? This means lots of people buy it, and I don't think most of them are from the Ripple team.

1836  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: "A Buck an Address" on: May 18, 2017, 04:51:28 PM
...

Average Joe Gold and BTC Guy just went browsing at blockchain.info in a recent block to see what sorts of FEES are being paid.  Almost all of the trx that I checked were in the range of 575 - 850 Satoshis / byte.  Very high!  Even very low amounts being sent had high fees.

It is possible that I am interpreting something incorrectly, if not here is my new Working Rule of Thumb sending BTC:

$1.00 / address (+/- 650 Satoshis for a very simple trx).

$3.00 for a typical transaction is way too much.  Only amounts, barring emergencies, over (say) $100 are worthwhile with fees that high.

"A Buck an Address"

A whole new world.


(Edited for spelling)

But according to https://bitcoinfees.21.co/ "the fastest and cheapest transaction fee is currently 360 satoshis/byte". In my opinion even that fee is too high to accept if you want to transfer around $20. But you are talking about fees 2 times higher than I've mentioned.

So my question is why do people pay such big fees if ~ 360 satoshis/byte would be enough for a fast transaction?
1837  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XRP] Ripple Speculation on: May 18, 2017, 04:07:00 PM
Just take a good profit before it's too late. There will be some bad news coming next days.
Proof or liar!!!!!!!

Although I'm a big fun of bitcoin, I think it is very unlikely that we'll here any bad news about Ripple in coming days. In my opinion XRP has a very bright future because it doesn't compete with bitcoin but rather helps its users in a way (remember The Bitcoin Bridge).
1838  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to control greed on gambling? on: May 18, 2017, 03:41:57 PM
Impossible and more if you have had any big wins before. Just remember the house ALWAYS wins in the end.

its not impossible if we can control ourself to not being greedy but its only for a few people that have ability to control theirself. but if we always trying to control ourself, then i am sure that finally we can stay away from greedy and we can have good control when we want to playing gambling. i realize its hard and difficult, but if we have a passion to control then its not impossible to do.
i do not think that it  is so easy to control our greed in gambling, as people want to make more and more money and for this purpose they always try to get more and more, but they do not care about the risk involve there, and for most of the time they even lose their own money in lo time and let them empty handed.

I think they are already aware on the risk that they are facing on gambling. Most of them just forget it once they are already carried away by gambling. Gambling is very entertaining that's why you will forget the risk once you are playing and having a profit during the game.

That's true. When we win we forget about cautiousness, we think it's our lucky day and we bet more and more until we lose it all. That's why in any case we shouldn't play with more than we can afford to lose.
1839  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Best Altcoin to invest in for 2017 and WHY !!! on: May 18, 2017, 02:14:17 PM
my money is in LTC and XRP, but XRP has been overvalued, right? so I pulled out my money and take all in to my precious LTC. If I am wrong, well, people are surely do not know that ETH is better than XRP.

Why do you think XRP is overvalued? It is $0.36 right now and I've seen many people say it can be $1 easily. If you ask me, I think Ripple is the best altcoin to invest this year because banks start supporting it and with wider support its price will rise.
1840  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Giving up gambling is not easy on: May 18, 2017, 01:55:17 PM
really?? giving in gambling is easy? Honestly I've only ever heard people say that, as far as I know many gamblers do not want to take giving in gambling because too many rules and surely you will face obstacles when you want to request a withdraw.

It is not easy , it is a very ahrd thing to do. I can only say that when people say that it is easy, that means the person is not heavily addicted yet so he can let go of it easily. When someone is heavily addicted like me than doing that kind of thing will be hard. The only way is to gamble for fun with small amount

I'm not addicted to gambling for now, but I heard that everyone becomes more or less addicted to it with time. And I think if I will be a gambling addict one day I'll use your advice. It's not like I see this for the first time, of course I've seen similar ideas many times on this forum, and as long as many gamblers say the same thing I think it makes sense to listen to it.
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