You can actually use Paypal even without uploading an ID or putting your credit card details. You can receive and send money. You can even use an unverified Paypal to buy stuffs online. I get paid using Paypal back then and even without verifying, I was able to use Paypal with no problems at all. There are people that gets their account frozen for 180 days because they're not verified but mine didn't get frozen or something. I'm still using it and everything's fine.

With that logic at hand, you'll be forever stuck in a loop. When the price reaches, 1000$, 2000$, 4000$, 8000$, or no matter what the price is, you'll have that very same thought in your mind. You'll think that it's not worth selling since it will reach a much more higher price in the future. Well, that is true. If you imagine it, the potential of bitcoin having a price increase is almost infinite so you would probably end up not selling your bitcoins ever.

Most people wants security and having a bitcoin bank will solve that problem. It will make those people that are too afraid to get hacked invest in bitcoin. But the real problem is, how trusted is this bitcoin bank? A bitcoin bank would be holding thousands of bitcoins eventually, and that's a good point for the owner to run away.

I think you should just trust yourself in bitcoin. Enable 2FA and all the other security features that your bitcoin wallet has and you'll be safe. You don't have to trust another guy or another company to make your bitcoins safe.

Of course you wouldn't be doing it in a manner like, "Look at my screen everyone!!" or aggressively putting your computer screen infront of your friend. Common sense.

Source? I have friends and relatives that are millionaires (in my currency) but they have no idea what bitcoin is. I don't think all of the rich people knows bitcoin. For example, if you ask Kim Kardashian or Emma Watson about bitcoin, they probably don't have any idea what that is. There are tons of ways to become wealthy and bitcoin is just one of them so it's not necessary that all of the wealthy people out there knows bitcoin.

There's never a sign when a crash is coming. The previous big crash that we had was Bitfinex hack. The hackers didn't announce something like, "Dump your coins, we're hacking Bitfinex tomorrow." We only knew the reason when the price was starting to decrease quickly. But before that, we know nothing. Whales and other big players also don't announce anything when they're going to sell a huge amount of bitcoins. There's no reason for them to do so, honestly.

It helps some people in the community, yes. Those people that really need some money and know that they can repay, those are the only people that are truly being helped by loans. But the problem is, someone can easily pretend that he's in need of money when the truth is he's just selling his collateral by getting a loan from somebody. They don't even care if they get rid of it with a lower price.

"Realistically"? I'm not sure you're using that right. Have you seen somebody be awake for 24/7? I know there are drugs out there that are available to make you awake for 48 hours or even longer but I'm 100% sure that that drug is much expensive that what you'll get from non-stop doing faucets.

People go to school/work, go to sleep, eat, take a bath, etc. Most people only have 8 hours maximum to spend in front of the computer in a day. That would divide your calculations into three since 24/8 = 3. Thus, the maximum earning you can get from faucet sites is just around 0.01BTC. I don't think that's worth doing. There's a lot of better ways you could've spent all those time.

Just because there won't be any legal exchanger in your country anymore doesn't mean that you cannot exchange your bitcoin into fiat. You can always trade person-to-person. Back then, there's no exchange websites. That is how they trade their bitcoins, by meeting up or by talking to each other online. You can also do escrow. Probably the transaction fee would be higher on this one but come on, you can't just shut down your bitcoin income just because of some hindrance.

Never heard that the government is controlling bitcoins. It's 100% decentralized so how are they doing it? I don't think this is true at all. If you talk to your friend about bitcoins, will the government go to your house and arrest you? No. You're free in this world. You can do whatever you want in bitcoins. You can advertise and promote it as long as you want. The government isn't holding you back. They don't have a law against bitcoin.

Actually bitcoin being limited is a very good thing for us. Scarcity gives value. The more limited one thing is and the more demand that it has, the price will be higher. It's the basic supply and demand law. Not sure why would you want to have an unlimited amount of bitcoins. If it's like that, then bitcoin will probably have very low to no value at all.

That is their problem to deal with. If you can't afford to have an Internet connection, then you're probably broke even in fiat.

It will not bring loss to you if you don't sell at that time. Nobody's forcing you to sell at a lower price. I think that most people that have the same mindset as yours are the people that lose the most opportunity. You can buy right now at 700$ range but you're still waiting for a "dip". What if we never dip at this price range? What if we continue rising up? Then you just lost more money.

I think buying bitcoin at the time that you wanted is actually okay. You don't have to wait for a major dump before you buy. Bitcoin will always rise up over time so don't mind if you lose some potential earning.

Apparently that oblivion is not inevitable at all. People are using Paypal and people will continue using Paypal. Even bitcoiners like us are using Paypal to buy stuffs online. There would always be people that do not want to study bitcoin or do not have the time to do so. Paypal is a very intuitive website so I think most people will continue using it despite of all the flaws that it has.

Even though it might not seem like it, simply using bitcoins is a way of spreading news about bitcoin. When somebody sees you doing bitcoins on your computer, they will be curious of what you're doing. So you'll say things about bitcoin. They will be interested. You might not notice it but the people around you are actually being introduced to bitcoin by just seeing you or by knowing that you use bitcoin.

We don't have to conduct meetups and lectures for people to find out about bitcoins. They will eventually find out about bitcoin especially if they need to earn money online.

You just went from 1 Bitcoin to 1 satoshi. 1 Satoshi is the smallest unit of bitcoin. Of course it will not cost that much. So yes, bitcoin is still expensive. 1 satoshi will of course never be. 1 satoshi basically doesn't have value at all in this world.

Bitcoin is really possible to become that main currency of the world since people are starting to send money from afar more frequently nowadays. Also, making all the transactions have a digital record will benefit the majority of people.

Bitcoin is just a currency. It will not do anything to convince you to trust it. The whole system/network of bitcoin is decentralized so there's no scam that will happen when you invest in it. No one will take away your funds since you're the only owner of it. No one's above you. The only way your money will get stolen is if you let a hacker get into your system.

Yeah, me too. I decided to remove Sportsbet.io from the table. I think their thread is just 'reserved' for their incoming signature campaign or the owner of it decided not to continue the campaign. Nevertheless, I'll add them again in the PNYC category when they start.

I think you meant CoinMixer.se. I checked CoinGate's rate and it's still the same.

I'm updating the table earlier than usual because we're facing difficulties when loading bitcointalk these days.

Even though bitcoin is a currency, it's very different from the traditional currencies. You don't hear people saying, "Oh wow, EUR is low today. I guess I would invest in this currency in hopes that I would get profit."

The main difference of bitcoin to the traditional currency that makes the price of bitcoin move more is the fact that people actually invest a lot of money in this currency. By design and because of experience, they know that the price of bitcoin will increase in the future.

By team did you mean the same campaign manager and owner? They are both Sportsbet.io so I guess it's the same owner. The only difference was the campaign manager. The first one was managed by Gianluca and this new one is managed by yahoo. Not sure why is their thread still closed by now. It's been two days.

Simply spending your bitcoins doesn't necessarily promote bitcoin unless you post it on your facebook account showing people your transaction. When you spend your bitcoins, what's happening is a deal between two bitcoin users. There's no non-bitcoin users that are being affected. But I guess it's actually in the seller's perspective that can actually help promote bitcoins. If more and more establishments especially in big cities start accepting bitcoins, people would surely check out what bitcoin is.

Bitcoin is very profitable. Take the people in this place as an example, if it's not because of bitcoin, we will all be in reddit, instagram, twitter, and facebook. Just spending time there talking to people who would never care about us. We will spend tons of time on social media sites looking for validation from other people and all those social stuffs that aren't worth it of our time.

There can still be some point of views that the government can discover that would make them think that bitcoin is actually good their country's economy. But anyway, the government cannot control the growth of bitcoin day by day. If their people starts to use bitcoin, they can't just arrest them one by one.