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1381  Economy / Economics / Re: Passive Income on: February 06, 2017, 04:55:41 PM
Preparing educational videos can be a good idea for passive income. You can publish it on sites like Udemy. Once you have created the content, you will have a passive income.

But I do not think you will make too much money. Good capital is required for a good passive income.
but I think you need a video that much for it. Well, it is not easy to seek passive income, but, I think this is not a bad idea, because so many people are getting passive income with the video, but by using youtube and google adsense. Well, if we work hard, for sure it would work.
Youtube is more and more terrible over years and they only pay a small money for people who upload their videos. That's why people prefer to use vine or rumble. As you can see, there are many Viners who earn thousands of dollar every month thanks to uploading videos on Vine. Therefore, working with Youtube is not a good idea at present


It's possible to earn good revenue when you create regular content for YouTube. Channels with 250-300k subscribers can earn 3-4k dollars a month.

Of course, the number of subscribers is not enough. You need to have a high rate of watching.
One of my friend decided to do the same thing like to create a youtube channel and upload his videos on that channel but after a longer tme he tod me that it is very hard to work on there and to collect some create videos and still he is earning nothing. I think it is better to create a blog and start earning from there with any good ad network.
I think it is a very good passive income from a youtubers. dala produce 3k-4k a month is extraordinary income. if it's like that, YouTube is an excellent place to get a passive income, but I am sure it will not be easy as I imagined.

Making you tube videos or blogs to earn massive profits is a good idea. I am not against it but it is very troubling. It is troubling because you need to capture the interest of the audience since if you dont build up sufficient traffic for your site you wont be earning hundreds of dollars weekly. When you do that kind of business you must have many gimmicks to promote your video or your webpage so you will earn otherwise you will not earn.

Isn't that your "job" to make videos that would give Youtube even more traffic? You can't earn a good amount of money without getting "troubled". Everything that's easy doesn't pay off. You need to do hard things in life to get the amount of money that you desire. Honestly, posting youtube videos is not that hard once you posted enough videos since (a.) people are already starting to subscribe to you, (b.) you already have all the necessary equipments, (c.) you're not entirely new to it anymore.

If you expect to make shit ton of money by posting normal and boring videos, then how much more can Youtube entertainers earn?
1382  Economy / Economics / Re: How to teach kids about Bitcoin? on: February 06, 2017, 04:46:01 PM
Kids nowadays can easily adapt what's going on in the environment especially in technology world. For me, teaching kids about Bitcoin is not good, teenagers is okay but if we are talking about "kids" i do not agree, because they should learn something which is more appropriate to their age not like this.
I don't know what it with it all of you people wanting kids to learn "Bitcoin" or even think about it. When you think of it this way Bitcoin is just a kind of currency which gives direct control for the user. Imagine your kids using Bitcoin on wherever they want to spend it. They can now access things from subscription to porn and payment for drugs. Which I know, I don't want my kids to be with.

How does that differ with fiat money? You're giving them fiat money, so now they have access to subscribe to porn and to pay for drugs Shocked

I think you're just overthinking the situation. Kids that have no clue about the world around them wouldn't be all like, "Yeyy. I got my BTCitcoins now, finally I can watch porn and buy some class S drugs from the Internet." They wouldn't use bitcoins to watch porn if they weren't watching porn back then and they wouldn't buy drugs from the black market online if they weren't using drugs before.

People can do whatever they want with bitcoins but they wouldn't do it just because they started using bitcoins.
1383  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin or gold? on: February 06, 2017, 04:21:27 PM
I actually think that gold is better than bitcoin. however, it is very difficult to get the gold, so I decided to look for bitcoin. perhaps, winning gold in the price, and long-term investment is excellent. but, with bitcoin, although we do not know if it's a good investment in the long term or not, you can still make bitcoin that you have become more the other way.
i think currently the price of bitcoin is double the price of gold. but still i am going trade bitcoin. because trading gold is only good for saving  as we can observe a very little change in the price of bitcoin, while trading bitcoin there are more chances to make a good profit because the price of bitcoin is increasing from time to time and hope that it will continue rising for along  time therefore we have good opportunity to make more money from investing in bitcoin.

How did you come up that? One bitcoin compared to how many gold ounces/grams?


(Source: http://www.apmex.com/spotprices/gold-price)

Which one is the half of $1000 here? If you're going to say a portion of an ounce or a portion of a gram, then theoretically every single thing can be half of the price of bitcoin but only when you put it in small portions. And from the looks of it, the price of gold is actually moving quite good. The market is also the same as bitcoins when there's times that it's not moving that much like what's happening right now and there are times when the price is moving a lot. I think most markets that are being used globally are like this.
1384  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin needs altcoins because ... on: February 06, 2017, 03:56:35 PM
It doesn't. Bitcoin is self-sustainable and doesn't need any altcoin to survive or to grow. Altcoins are here trying to offer us even better things than Bitcoin does, but none of them seem to be working as good as BTC is. So yes, BTC is the mother of all the Cryptos.
I agree completely with you,At the beginning bitcoin was dominated others cryptocurrencies and still continue that is why Bitcoin is the mother of all the Cryptos.However there more than 700 altcoins and generated every day long.But failed to take advantages or to replace it anyhow.At this point,altcoins need alts trading to make profit,nowadays altcoins are profitable cryptocurrencies.

700 altcoins seems a lot. Care to share the link of the source? If there's 700 altcoins that is created every day, then that sure is a huge number of garbage coins. Those coins don't serve any purpose at all, thus, have no audience at all. I believe that much altcoins is being created day by day because you don't need anything at all except for a complete tutorial like this one and any one can create an altcoin.

We don't need those 700 altcoins. We only need several altcoins to make bitcoins better.
1385  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Getting porn sites to accept bitcoin on: February 06, 2017, 03:05:43 PM
Ok guys. It's time to inform porn industry that we want to pay in Bitcoins. You have any ideas on how to do it? Bitcoin is perfect payment method for p0rn - anonymous and very fast. And they don't care about fluctiation because they profit anyway.
If some major sites will start accepting bitcoins, there will be huge demand for Bitcoins  Cheesy  What do you think?



I don't know why did you ask this question, And for whatever some reason it is, its shouldn't be here actually. This will only in favor for those people who is liberated/aggressive one only. Not the people in this forum, This is just my opinion of mine only.
I am agree. This question should be at least in other section, but not in the bitcoin discussion. And I don't see any sense in watching porn with bitcoin payment, because of there are many sites on the net where you can watch porn free.
If we really try we can dig up dirt on the man and make him bad. This porn and other immoral to someone's opinion that things like a man. But Bitcoin can help avoid publicity as paying for porn bitcoin, no one will know about who it is. Of course it is in more developed countries, but not in the third world.

What do you mean by that? People in third world country can't become anonymous when they do the same thing? Grin Nope, there's no difference at all. What people from first world country can do when porn sites has started accepting bitcoins can also be done by people from third world countries. No difference at all.


And I don't see any sense in

Interactivity.
I think he's right about the free porn. Why pay? Although if the chat, it is another matter.

Because paid porn is different from free porn. Your so-called "free porn" (except for amateur videos, etc) is a pirated copy of paid porn. Most porn production companies don't give away their videos for free so if you see a logo on the video, it's probably a pirated one. Paid porn also gives you access to the latest porn videos and some paid porn that was never pirated yet.

On a side note, if you're a porn addict you probably have watched most of the free porn videos so now you have to pay to see the new porn videos.
1386  Economy / Economics / Re: How can we make more money? on: February 06, 2017, 02:54:08 PM
What are the things to do to succeed in trade? What are you doing to make your business bigger?
How can we make more money?

In any business, its always start from learning. if you that everything will follows, moreover try to do some research about the things you wanna know especially in trading concern. We have many success member here who became a good trader in this industry, set them as an good example and inspiration and ask their mimic strategy in trading, for you to make money in bitcoin.

Just because you know something, everything will follow through. Even if you know how to trade, if you're too lazy to check the market often, it wouldn't work as good as it work with someone that checks the market often, and look at what's happening to the coin's community. I think you should apply what you know and not just learn the whole thing. Those two things need each other so your plan would be successful. Simply put, "Knowledge is power but knowledge without application is useless."
1387  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How do I grow my btc? on: February 05, 2017, 01:35:39 PM
Like trading with a positive trust person is fine.
But I would suggest you that signature campaigns are the
Best way to earn bitcoins.
Like my campaign is the best among every other.
So I earn a lot. all thanks to my campaign.
But still you can try to enroll is a campaign and earn around 10$ per week or so.
Then buy stuff at cheaper rates and sell at higher.
This is done by many to increase profits.

Earnings from the signature campaign is a good thing but I don't see it as the best thing because it is kind of tip given by the advertising company to the users who put company's advertisement in their signature. It should be a secondary or third source of income IMO. There are many profitable ways of earning money which pays more than signature campaigns.
The earnings from the signature campaign is limited But those people who have good knowledge about bitcoin and do not have any other skills like programming and designing to earn from bitcoin can find signature campaign as a good source to earn some extra money from bitcoin and along with that they can also earn by writing some articles on different websites which provide that opportunity and they also can start their blogs and write for it.

Not everyone can earn through blog and article writing as it requires good writing skills and not many people has such skills. Another easy way to earn bitcoins is by trading Altcoins. It is not difficult to learn altcoin trading and if you invest in good coins , you can get good return on investments.

Exactly. I believe that there are two ways to earn good amount of money, regardless of what form the money is. You either are knowledgeable about something that other people aren't or you're going to do things that other people are not willing to do. Without saying, the two creates a synergy.

If a certain method can easily be learned and most people don't mind doing it, it wouldn't pay that much. An example of this is faucet which essentially is just captcha solving. Everyone can solve captchas. Everyone don't mind solving captchas. So the price for solving captcha is very low.

Another example is when you go to the dentist. The dentist is just pulling the teeth out of your mouth yet you still pay him good amount of money. It's because he's knowledgeable about how to pull a teeth without making the patient suffer from infection.

Optional (not really bitcoin related but you get the point): As an example for the latter, you can earn a relatively good amount of money from cleaning the septic tank. No one wants to clean their own septic tank not because they don't know how to, but because they don't want to. People don't mind paying a good amount of money for this task.
1388  Economy / Economics / Re: Should I believe in Bitcoin ? on: February 05, 2017, 01:14:38 PM
Bitcoin believers are sure it will definitely see a huge price increase in the future. If you aren't a believer you must convince yourself by looking at how much better Bitcoin is than the current financial services offered by banks and others. You'll realize that the future of Bitcoin is gold plated Smiley
I agree with you! Because as of this time the price of the Bitcoin is getting higher, what more in the near future. And it's also having a name in the business, maybe 5% in out country is using it now, so what more in the next 2 years. Most especially it has an advantage because of the technology today.

I also agree with you. Now Bitcoin has a very big potential. Many people have realized that Bitcoin has many advantages. In the future, his popularity will grow and this will lead to higher prices
They are co related, once bitcoin will be popular, the effect on the value will be positive and the is the price will increase. It is the price that would tell if bitcoin is popular or not, and based on what we see now, we can conclude that bitcoin is already popular, and not only that, its popularity is growing.
Keep believing as we have not reach the top yet, we should push harder so the value will continue to grow, in the end, we all be benefited with this.

The popularity and price of bitcoin might be related to each other but it actually doesn't have a strong correlation. There could be billions of bitcoin users but if they're all holding small amounts of bitcoin, the price would still be low. Similarly, there could be small number of bitcoin users but each individual or at least one of them is holding huge amount of bitcoins, then the price of bitcoin would be high.

We don't have equal amounts of bitcoin so you can't just look at the price of bitcoin and say that the popularity has grown. It's possible that an old bitcoin user just wanted to buy even more bitcoins that's why the price has increased.
1389  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to play gambling in a smart way? on: February 05, 2017, 01:05:52 PM
If u wanna play in smart way u must have patience and not greed. There are over 100 football matches at the weekend. You must analysis all matches. It will take 2-3 hours.

Analysis between matches, last matches, form situation, home & away situation, suspended and injuried players, weather situation. If u will analysis all these ur choose %80 will be correct.

Pick 4 matches bet to goals. There are 3 options win-lose-draw so ur chance is %33.3. If u bet goals ur chance will be %50. 2,5goal over or under there r 2 option. For that reason bet to goals Wink

Its smart way i think...

Only if the match is too obvious who will win. Otherwise, you would just end up beating yourself up for being wrong with your analysis and for spending to much time for analyzing as well when gambling was never meant to be like that. What you're doing with that calculation is that you're trying to maximize the chance and then lowering the chance of you losing. If you're simply going to bet at dice, there's no calculation like that and you can simply put how big the chance of winning that you want.

I don't think your way is smart at all because most of us spend just the free time for gambling. You don't want to spend 2-3 hours of your day researching just to put a single bet and still have that risk of losing.
1390  Economy / Economics / Re: Do You Think Bitcoin Will Replace Dollar Soon? on: February 05, 2017, 12:54:45 PM
Bitcoin doesn't have the power to replace dollar in any way. But yes, it may replace zimbabwean dollar as their economy is shattered. Jokes apart!

However, bitcoin and paper currency are genetically different. Dollar is a government backed currency where bitcoin is not. Bitcoin doesn't have any central authority. It is backed up by public trust. It will never be able to replace dollar or any other fiat currency unless and until any country adopts bitcoin as their national currency.

you are right, Bitcoin has many advantages, but it is not very important - government support. That is why he will never be able to replace the dollar

Running the country with bitcoin is impossible. If it happens, then there is no legal transaction will happen in that country. BEcasue tracking bitcoin transaction is not possible. So the bitcoin will help only for the digital transaction and online shopping purpose. It will never replace by Dollar. The value of the digital currency is high, but it can not beat the value of paper currency.   

Or maybe the transactions would even be better when a country started to use bitcoins. So-called legal transactions always require proof of transaction and that's even easier to access when you're using bitcoins. To show that the transaction has happened, you just have to show the transaction fee. I think the huge reason why a country wouldn't use bitcoin for transactions because the government would have transparent records and most of them are hiding something.

All of the records will be available online and all of the proof of transaction can easily be seen and verified.
1391  Other / Archival / Re: Updated Overview of Bitcointalk Signature-Ad Campaigns on: February 05, 2017, 12:35:45 PM
I renamed TheBitcoin.Casino to TheBtc.Casino because it occupies a lot of space and we want the table to be as small as possible horizontally since we have users that have smaller screen resolution. Everyone knows that Btc stands for bitcoin anyway..

Updated table: Visit the OP.
1392  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: how to explain bitcoin advantage ?? on: February 04, 2017, 01:53:22 PM
It's true that bitcoin have bad reputation in media, mostly because of bad news connected with crimminals.
They are using bitcoin to buy drugs in dark web.
We had a few such stories in my country recently.
So, how to explain advantages of bitcoin?
I will explain it in very simple way.
No government control, decentralized, fast and secured.


I think for someone to get persuaded to letting his brother borrow some money for his bitcoin website, it would take more than saying: "No government control, decentralized, fast and secured." That's literally 7 words and I have never persuaded to do anything by just using 7 words specially if I am not familiar with the investment. You need to explain it to him in a deeper sense so he would know that his investment would probably grow but there's no assurance to that at all.
1393  Economy / Economics / Re: Why Doesn’t Western Union or Moneygram Use Bitcoin? on: February 04, 2017, 01:44:22 PM
I think even if they did, the bitcoin users wouldn't use their service because they can do it by themselves. That's one of the advantages of bitcoin. You can transfer money to another person from a different country all by yourself. You don't need to use and pay any service at all except for the small transaction fee. It would just be a waste of funds if they started using bitcoins but they can always implement it whenever they want. These business people can change their course whenever they want. I think that would happen only when bitcoin's starting to take over. But the world wouldn't be needing their service at that point as told in the OP.
1394  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin can not replace fiat on: February 04, 2017, 01:31:45 PM
Yes certainly, fiat money is used, bitcoin used no more than 0,005%, I am sure there are many countries that are 100% not using bitcoin. so impossible that bitcoin replacing fiat money.

In order for bitcoin to replace fiat, it should be introduced by the government to their people, but if we are just going to wait for normal adoption, it will take forever, and some of us have already left bitcoin and new comers enters, so no increase in number, only in numbers of people who have experience using it, and that won't be good for bitcoin...  Smiley

Just to be clear bitcoin will never replace fiat even if bitcoin is being used or almost used by everyone and I'm sure government will not introduce bitcoin in a way that it will be able to replace their own currency, sure bitcoin can become more popular than fiat but replacing fiat! no, it is impossible! but you know what is possible bitcoin being replaced by another digital currency created by a government!

If that was true, then the digital form of fiat (like what's seen on Paypal, etc.) should've already killed bitcoin. But it didn't, right? Smiley It's because people know that they're using cryptocurrency so they can be free from the chains that the government has put on them. It's the only way for us to avoid taxes.

You actually can't say for sure that bitcoin cannot replace fiat even though it can become more popular than fiat. Every single one of us (except those people in mountains, islands, etc) know fiat. So if bitcoin becomes more popular than fiat, then that's quite amazing because there would be people that knows bitcoin but don't know fiat. Like, how is that even possible?

PayPal is a company and the government doesn't have full control(not even sure if they have control over it) over it, what I was trying to say is if the Government created their own cryptocurrency it has the Possibility(understand the word possibility) of replacing bitcoin, it may not be worldwide but it is possible inside their country.

I think if they would issue such thing, it wouldn't replace bitcoins at all but would be a way for new people to enter the bitcoin world. At first, the average person would be glad to try out the cryptocurrency of their government. After being exposed to the crypto-world, they will see threads or articles about cryptocurrencies. And we all know that the mostly used cryptocurrency is bitcoin.

Ultimately, the government advertising a cryptocurrency of their own would lead to people using bitcoins and bitcoiners wouldn't be force to use the government's coin at all because they already know what they're doing.
1395  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Great way to make Bitcoin! on: February 04, 2017, 01:11:18 PM
I never consider signature campaign as a decent job because it is only temporary and you can not know when will everything will fall apart. I doubt that signature campaign can continue to live in the 10 years later. If you want to earn Bitcoin, try to find a job and apply it, use your salary to buy Bitcoin. There are many people selling bitcoin and you will enjoy this method

I think the thing that smells like bitcoin trading, sig camp and the others is not wise to be used for the main job.
Myself think is better if we continue to have a steady job as a primary income and income from bitcoin serve as additional income. And buy bitcoin for long-term investment is a good thing, but still there are risks. Thank you

All of them are just giving you a little amount of money. It's far from what you'll earn from a day job specially if you live in a developed country like the USA. You might somehow survive with your earnings from signature campaign and altcoin trading but I doubt that you'll afford the things that you want to buy and live the life that you wanted. Someone who really wants to make good amount of money wouldn't waste time doing all of these and would start learning things that's focused on his goal.
1396  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin can not replace fiat on: February 03, 2017, 12:40:41 PM
Yes certainly, fiat money is used, bitcoin used no more than 0,005%, I am sure there are many countries that are 100% not using bitcoin. so impossible that bitcoin replacing fiat money.

In order for bitcoin to replace fiat, it should be introduced by the government to their people, but if we are just going to wait for normal adoption, it will take forever, and some of us have already left bitcoin and new comers enters, so no increase in number, only in numbers of people who have experience using it, and that won't be good for bitcoin...  Smiley

Just to be clear bitcoin will never replace fiat even if bitcoin is being used or almost used by everyone and I'm sure government will not introduce bitcoin in a way that it will be able to replace their own currency, sure bitcoin can become more popular than fiat but replacing fiat! no, it is impossible! but you know what is possible bitcoin being replaced by another digital currency created by a government!

If that was true, then the digital form of fiat (like what's seen on Paypal, etc.) should've already killed bitcoin. But it didn't, right? Smiley It's because people know that they're using cryptocurrency so they can be free from the chains that the government has put on them. It's the only way for us to avoid taxes.

You actually can't say for sure that bitcoin cannot replace fiat even though it can become more popular than fiat. Every single one of us (except those people in mountains, islands, etc) know fiat. So if bitcoin becomes more popular than fiat, then that's quite amazing because there would be people that knows bitcoin but don't know fiat. Like, how is that even possible?


Yes certainly, fiat money is used, bitcoin used no more than 0,005%, I am sure there are many countries that are 100% not using bitcoin. so impossible that bitcoin replacing fiat money.

In order for bitcoin to replace fiat, it should be introduced by the government to their people, but if we are just going to wait for normal adoption, it will take forever, and some of us have already left bitcoin and new comers enters, so no increase in number, only in numbers of people who have experience using it, and that won't be good for bitcoin...  Smiley

The growth in the adaption of bitcoin would actually be an exponential growth and not a linear one. Meaning to say, even though the growth's kind of slow right now, it will be really really fast after a period of time.

I don't think that the number of people that leaves the bitcoin world is greater than or equal to the number of people that enters it. Like I said, the growth is exponential since your friend can introduce bitcoin to his friends and the friends of his friends would introduce it to their friends. The number of people leaving the bitcoin world isn't growing exponentially. It's a linear one and it's not that much to begin with since most people want to earn bitcoins and never want to stop.
1397  Economy / Economics / Re: If bitcoin price is $10.000, will fiat be worthless? on: February 03, 2017, 12:29:42 PM
Fiat can never be worthless even if price of bitcoins goes that high as we know the fact that we cannot spend bitcoins directly and whenever we want to spend them we need to convert them to fiat first so till this scenario doesn't change I don't think fiat is going anywhere as people will need fiat to convert their bitcoins.

No matter what happens fiat will never be worthless. It is the foundation of the financial system for each country [1]even bitcoin is going to reach up to million dollar it will not affect the worth and usage of fiat. Because it's decentralize government cannot trust bitcoin [2]but they can just collect tax from it from the goods and services we consume upon using it.

[1] How sure are you of that? Bitcoin reaching a million dollar would mean the mass adoption is happening and it's affecting the world's economy since billions of fiat money are already converted to bitcoins. The usage of fiat would surely not be affected at that time even though, since most people are using bitcoins, most establishments are already accepting bitcoins as payment.

[2] How, though? The whole point of bitcoin isn't being free from the government and that includes being free from paying taxes. If the government would somehow successfully be able to get tax from us, a lot of us would be disappointed.
1398  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way for steady income on: February 03, 2017, 11:52:29 AM
If you own some amount then investing is the best way for steady income. Some sites are giving 100-120% profit after a decided time. You can earn without any effort. The more you can invest, more you will get.

Investing from "Some sites" won't do. I'm pretty sure that that's just the classic ponzi scam and that's pretty much has been bashed in this forum for million times already. I wouldn't invest in some sites unless it's a gambling casino that has a good team and has a good amount of funds allotted for advertisement. It's pretty risky to invest in other businesses because at any given time, even if their objective was to honestly give profit to their investors, when there's a lot of money in their hands, they can become greedy and run away your money.
1399  Economy / Economics / Re: You should never trust banks on: February 03, 2017, 04:12:05 AM
Well, I guess I would still believe in the bank in my country of residence. Well, it is the only one of the best places to save money in my country. besides, if you're saving in large quantities, there would be a profit-sharing system might be beneficial. Well, I believe the bank, as I believe in bitcoin.


I have a completely different view even though I have my money in a bank account like the most of you. Why? Because there is not an alternative one. And I don't trust them because they can do anything they want with my money without asking me or give me the choice to withdraw if i don't like their decisions. As an example they can impose capital controls like as in Russia, India, Argentina, Iceland and Greece. If these measures are not enough they can steal your savings and they can apply 'haircut'  like as in Cyprus. So, does anyone have a good reason why to trust any bank in the world? 

You have to understand the fact that banks have to pay their employees and their huge expenses at the end of the day. They're not privileged to not pay anything at all. Banks invest your money in some businesses by lending your money to other people. They are going to get a profit from that and that's how it basically works. They just don't let the 100% of the total money that's in them to sit 24/7. They're investing some of them. If everyone's going to withdraw their money from the banks, a huge percentage of people wouldn't be able to get their money.

If you don't like what they're doing, feel free to withdraw your money. You can withdraw it any time you like, but I think your money is actually safe even with what they're doing because they know exactly what they're doing.
1400  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How to increase BTC? on: February 02, 2017, 10:29:53 AM
this is a cliche these days but i say it again maybe it someday gets etched in people's minds
"bitcoin is money"
so you do the same thing you do with money to increase your bitcoin. you work a job and get paid, you invest and make profit, you start a business and make money, offer a service and make money and lots of other ways.
and there is absolutely no difference between money and bitcoin, you can do the same things but get bitcoin in return, or even get money but buy bitcoin with it.
investment, and many businesses can make you increase the number of bitcoin what you have. for that, you need to work harder so that everything you do can increase the number of bitcoin what you have. I am sure, trading can also increase the amount of your bitcoin, but not everyone can use it properly.
i will surely select trading trading is one of the best way of increasin your bitcoin. to me i most invest my  bitcoin in different ICOS and other alt coins that are added in exchanges, i mostly earn good amount of bitcoin from trading alt coin. there are also so many other souces of bitcoin, but i will also suggest you trading that is more easy and reliable way of increasing bitcoins.
I like to invest in ICO that is a much beneficial way to earn a good profit within a shorter time. I have invested ina  number of ICO in the past and now I am still investing but make sure that invest in those ICO where you know that the developers are working for the coin to get success. I often invest in those coins about which know that some services is going to start in that coin because that coin remain at higher price for longer time due to its increasing demand.

It's really hard to confirm that the devs are actually doing something for the betterment of the coin. If they're doing something good, you would have to think if they're really doing it for the investors or for their own profit. The people behind the coin can always pretend that they're developing something and you don't know if it's true since you don't see them in person.


The fluctuations of bitcoin makes it a profitable form of trading currency. when the currency is low,you can buy then you wait a little bit and allow it to increase then you sell to make profits

Even when the price is stable for the short term one can earn good profits from it using different exchange services. I have seen that the trading bitcoin with cash gives highest profits (up to 20% in a single deal). If one can provide multiple options for buying and selling then the profit is comparatively higher than that of altcoins trading.

That only works for people that have more than 1BTC. Those that have lower than that wouldn't get as much profit as one would expect. Basically it goes like, altcoin trading = low capital, bitcoin trading = huge capital.
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