That is one of the most misleading ideas that most of us have in mind. "If I work hard right now, I can have fun later." But when exactly is "later"? There are people that have been so worked up, they have in mind that someday they will stop and finally do the things that they've missed doing since they've been very busy from work. After a couple of years of working, you would still have the same "later I'll have fun" mindset. You should start having fun now even if you aren't rich yet. You don't need to be rich to be able to do the things that you want even those things involve spending huge amount of money. You just have to save enough money.

"You get a job, so you can afford to have a life. But then, you spend all your time at work and end up with no time to live the life you're working for." -- Some quote from google.

Not joining campaigns or atleast discouraging people to do so is like not looking for a job because you don't have a guarantee that you'll be forever be an employee there or because you don't have the assurance that the company will not shut down. There's very little amount of things in this world that will last for a life time. The only thing that you can do is accept that fact and enjoy the things while they are still there. Signature campaigns are still here and it's running well, let's all enjoy it and don't be so sad just because we don't know if the mods will soon disable it.

I don't think the rates in signature campaigns has changed at all. They just adjusted it prior to the price of bitcoins. If they were paying you 0.03BTC before and they're paying you 0.025BTC today, then it's okay. It's still the same amount of money when converted to fiat.

A ponzi owner wouldn't be in here because he knows that he will not have any victim in here. Ponzi owners are lurking on social media like Facebook and twitter. Besides, all bitcoiners except newbies are well-versed about the ponzi scheme.

Holding bitcoins and then selling them at the right time by looking at the chart regularly in the long run would not teach you anything. I would prefer using them in trading. The price of bitcoin will increase over time. By the time that the price is finally "right" for you, you should have more than 12BTC (if you're lucky) when you get serious with trading. You don't have to do anything with your 12BTC when you're holding it, so why not try to take some risks. You don't have to invest the whole 12BTC.

It is not everyday that you can earn from trading even when you invest in a couple of good altcoins. Unless you're willing to sell in a very little price increase, of course. I think signature campaign is still more steady than trading because weekly you'll get paid from signature campaigns. If the company has closed down, you can always join another signature campaign. There are campaigns like 777coin, Bitvest, and secondstrade that always has an open spot. If your posts are good, you don't have to worry about joining a different campaign.

"I agree with you, I don't know why. But I agree with you." - Typical dittohead mindset. Research further this topic, I advise (or just read the whole discussion). Don't just agree and leave.

Just think of a whole new world that has screens almost everywhere for people to check their current wallet balance. Every shop will have a screen to show the transaction that you have made. If you've watched, Elisium, that's how it would look like. Maybe not the whole setting of the movie, but the ones where they pay some digital coins to buy something.

Do you have any link for a credible website to support that claim? The government don't own all of the bitcoins in regulation, they can't tax it. Just like how people avoid paying taxes in fiat, there would always be a way to do that in here as well, assuming that the government somehow successfully are able to implement tax in bitcoins.

I think the "tax" that the other guy was talking about is actually the fee that you pay for when you convert your bitcoins into fiat and transfer them to your bank account.

Bitcoin is rising? Where?
That's the 24H chart of the bitcoin market. When you posted this 7 hours ago, bitcoins was actually getting dumped. Actually check the chart for a second at least before you post here since there are also newbies browsing here. You're giving them false information.


Ehh. Wrong. A lot of people have made bitcoins after investing/trading in the altcoin market. Most people has started looking at altcoins as a way to get more bitcoins. People that really wants to earn bitcoins would try altcoin trading and not just wait for the price of bitcoin to increase. It take months (for most times) before there's a profitable movement in the bitcoin market while in altcoin market, there's plenty most especially when you invest in different altcoins simultaneously.

Never tried international bank transfer but if what you're saying is true, then international transfer is ridiculously slow. There are other money remittances that are available now, you should check it out. It depends on your country so I cannot actually mention a particular company name. I think you can easily receive the money even if you're from a different place, but I guess this has a limit and they wouldn't just allow millions of money getting sent in just one transaction unlike in bank transfer.

I disagree with you when you said fiat is in no way superior. Fiat is being used every single day (just like what the guy above you said). The transaction time and fee aren't the only things that you look at. You also look at its usability and I think that's one of the crucial factors that makes fiat superior than bitcoin.

But both fiat and bitcoin has flaws in the concept, has advantage and disadvantages. I'm not picking solely one of them. Both of them are essential to our daily lives as a bitcoiner.

The price of bitcoin might always be able to recover but it doesn't always recover up to its peak. Our highest price was $1200, and even if there was a previous major pump, we didn't even hit that price again. I think it's safe to invest in bitcoins only when the price is low. Otherwise, you're going to wait for the next major price increase. Those people that have invested in the $1200 price are still waiting for their time. They thought they were finally able to get out of that hole after so many years but we we're only able to hit $1100 price range.

There's still risk in investing bitcoin. There's simply just no sure way of making money when you're investing. Because if there was, somebody has already abused it making that certain type of investment deplete.

I must've missed it. Thanks!

I've found the website that's on my mind. It's http://directory.io/. I thought you might be interested. I'm not sure what's on your mind, though. It does say that it generates the keys depending on the page (read: FAQ). If anyone wants some more explanation as to why your private keys can't be found using things like this, read this reddit post.

All links came from directory.io itself.

In what way would the law of banning bitcoins affect bitcoin positively? You said many ways, please give us one. The only one I can think of is that banning bitcoins in USA and China will put bitcoin in the news which would somehow serve as an advertisement about bitcoin that would introduce bitcoin to millions of people.

I don't think "too many people" is the appropriate wordings to call us. If you compare a less than million of people to 7 billion people, I think we're hardly a handful.

Banning bitcoins would cause opening up a lot of threads and discussions but chaos and war is far from reality. What exactly are we going to do? Rally? In a country, there's just a few thousand of bitcoin users and most don't even want to do social stuffs, let alone rallying. We can't even start a war on the internet. We're not hackers to do something bad to the government or leak confidential issues of the government.

Investing in an actual company, I'm assuming that by real company you meant a company that has papers, products, etc, doesn't assure you income. Even though it run for a long time, you still don't know how much returns would there surely be. Companies make an approximation on how much returns can you get for x number of months/years but they can always fake it or things can always go south. Big companies go bankrupt after a couple of years of success too. Investing is plainly risky.

The death of altcoins would be irrelevant to bitcoin's death. A lot of altcoins have been dying ever since because of scam coins and devs leaving the project. I think if bitcoin dies, it's because a cryptocurrency or two are invading the cryptoworld and bitcoin's starting to become forgotten. Just like fiat coins, they get replaced by new coins from time to time. I'm sure that would happen in crypto-currency as well even though we can't see it for now since it's far far away. There would be mass adoption first, and a lot of other happenings before bitcoin gets replaced by an altcoin.

It doesn't work like that. Profit and risk are directly proportional to/with each other most of the time. Low risk investments give you small profits. For example, investing in bitcoin doesn't involve that much risk but you cannot earn that much from it. We just got lucky this previous days that why we got big profits. But in a normal day, profit in bitcoin trading isn't that much unless you're risking big amount of money. The same when you invest in other investments or when you gamble.

Privacy maybe yes to the people that knows how to protect themselves from people of the dark net, knows how to use TOR, knows how to avoid clickbaits, etc. There's a lot of conspiracies and mysteries going on in the dark net according to the people that are in here, the normal net, that claims they've come from dark net. These people believe everything that's written on the internet IMO.

No way to confirm this since we don't know if the buyers are dark net users. We don't even know the address of the people that pumped/dumped the market. But the dark net has turned into a place where dark trades happen and all else is just a hoax or whatever. I think dark net is somehow helping with the price increase since they use bitcoins but I doubt that they're the reason of the previous huge dump.

Maybe just use the color coding for a different purpose. Just a suggestion, we can list all the campaigns alphabetically and then use the color coding to indicate the campaign's status (Full, PNYC, Active, FLUX) rather than categorizing them. It would look nice IMO.

You are paying high fees because the seller of bitcoin wants to earn money from you. No one has time to convert Paypal to Bitcoin for free. People always want to get paid. If someone offers a Paypal to Bitcoin conversion, people would assume that he's going to scam people or has some secret evil intentions.

Paypal is reversible so most sellers are pretty picky. They don't just let newbies convert paypal to bitcoin since the dispute button is pretty easy to abuse.

The price will get pumped this high not necessarily by just a couple of whales. I believe that the price would hit this range if the "normal people with normal jobs" starts buying bitcoins instead. They might not support bitcoin to become that big individually, but if they do it altogether, they might achieve it.

It's not needed that people buy 1 bitcoin or two. They can always buy in small pieces like milliBit or microBit so even the price is high, it's okay.

I don't think at 2030, the price would just be $2000. We're already around $900-$1100. It wouldn't take that long to get to $2000 range.

Wrong. Altcoin's company has introduced a lot of people to bitcoins. Without them, bitcoin wouldn't be as successful as it is right now. I know that altcoins are just a copy of bitcoins and people mainly just use altcoins to earn even more bitcoins, but that's okay. The gist is that every new member of the altcoin community is eventually a new member of the bitcoin community. The introduction of altcoins is one of the key to reach mass adoption. I've never seen someone promoting bitcoins but I've seen tons of people promoting a certain altcoin.

Bitcoin might already have become recognized even without altcoins but that recognition wouldn't push forward if it wasn't because of the help of altcoins. The bitcoin success would be much slower without altcoins.