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1841  Economy / Gambling / Re: Betcoin.tm Withdrawal Help! on: March 29, 2015, 09:20:24 PM
Hey I have the same issue with betcoin.tm they had disabled my account and took my bitcoin that I had in there. I had a positive balance of 221 bitcoin and now I dont have no way to get a hold of them. Could someone please help me.

Well sorry for your loss because as far as i know they are scammers, even stunna himself said he wouldnt trust betcoin or 999dice with a single satoshi, so i think your money is gone, maybe not tho.
1842  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Another scammer on 999Dice, entertaining to read convos by these people on: March 29, 2015, 09:16:26 PM
Dave and his brother Uri is scammers from canada. They scam very a lot people on 999dice.
And if you know admin(jake) dont ban scammers.

Well its your fault for giving someone else your money to gamble for you, so everyone that got scammed doing that, deserves it honestly you gotta be really stupid to do that

Basically I didn't give him my money to gamble for me, it was to exchange, but he didn't give me enough and gave me a site, simpleswap, which has lower than market price maybe with their 2% fee calculated in it, to make me think that he gave me "1:1" ratio as he said. Just want to see if how many people can see through all his lies and deceit. He's still be sarcastic that he really is a scammer, liar, bser but then he says that he is not being sarcastic, then he goes and said when did he say that? He also said it was karma that I lost before this, then he goes and tells everyone in chat that everyone on the site looses, then again when I tell him about this, nothing to say. Then later keeps asking when did he ever lie or bs or scam me and sometimes with that sarcasm again, and when I tell/proof to him again referring to old disproofs and asking why does he never answer my rhetorical questions, again he doesn't answer/ has nothing to say. Vicious circle that frustrates the hell outta me. Haven't anyone else ever experienced these people? Or shall i just call them walls?

He also then refers to a judge, who I think later on to be a bad judge, who's convo i also want to show, but too lazy, and I know what you guys are thinking... why am I doing this?

I didnt understand anything there but i dont think this section is appropiate for your report since you are reporting an user from another site. Shouldnt you be reporting him to the admins of 999dice? There is really no point to post it here and TL DR is ( too long, didnt read) i told you already
1843  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Another scammer on 999Dice, entertaining to read convos by these people on: March 29, 2015, 08:52:32 PM
What's TL DR?

pretty much 60% of the guys there are scammer as far as I know. they'll begin by offering to multiply your coins or asking your skype ID and other things.

omg yep that's what happened to me like at least 3 of them

Too long, didnt read. Its pretty much a summary of your story so people dont have to read 2.000 messages
1844  Other / Meta / Re: Remove All Faucets from Service Announcements on: March 29, 2015, 07:08:41 PM
You guys care too much about faucets but when it comes to ponzis and other similar scams you made an entire sub section just for it, i will never understand it.

well, ponzis might make people use a freak load of money.
faucets made a lot of people waste their time while they can do other good things. faucets isn't worth a single thought, they just uses a lot of spaces.

Oh so you saying that ponzies are worth it? Ponzies are scam, faucets are giving you free money and ponzies are just stealing your money, i dont know how anyone would think ponzies are better than faucets.

yes, they are worth the attention. because they are dangerous.
and like I said, faucets are a waste of time. they give you less than a dollar for spending your entire day solving captchas.

I seriously dont understand your logic, ponzies are worth the attention? What? Faucets give you free money, they are for new people that start using bitcoins and want some free tosee how things are going, ponzies are a scam they are illegal, yes illegal you can report ponzi models to the authorities actually so i dont see how ponzies are better than faucets or why they have their own sub forum. Its like the sub forum to post your scam.
1845  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: March 29, 2015, 07:05:43 PM

Hey you wanted to make a list of fallacies in that link? You dont need to, here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fallacies

You can find them all.


This makes me smile lol

The list isn't complete.   Smiley

Maybe, but it has all your fallacies in it Smiley

If the list had the biggest fallacy of all, it wouldn't be worthy anything... even though it isn't worth much as it is. The biggest fallacy? Itself.

Smiley

You dont know what to say anymore seems, and you are just posting a bunch of nonsense, too bad you cant keep posting your link full of fallacies anymore, you gotta find something else to spam now.

If you say my stuff at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395 is fallacies, there are only two reasons for it:
1. You are simply against the truth;
2. You are against the truth and aren't smart enough to think your way through it, or probably even out of a wet paper bag.

Smiley

Here, you are committing the logical fallacy of "false dichotomy" by claiming there are only two options when in fact there are others.

This fallacy is explicitly listed among the others as shown here :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fallacies


I wonder how is he going to respond to this, my guess is that he will ignore it or try to decieve the conversation to something else wich is a another fallacy btw haha. Thanks for the wikipedia link, hopefully it helps badecker understand how much crap he talks.
1846  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Another scammer on 999Dice, entertaining to read convos by these people on: March 29, 2015, 07:03:44 PM
Thats a really long conversation.. Reading the last lines and first ones i understand that you invested or gave a loan to an user there and he didnt return it?
1847  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: paycoinpoker.com on: March 29, 2015, 11:18:47 AM
Judging by your links you are the only one complaining but i really didnt understand what happend, could you just post here the proofs and the accusation more clear
1848  Economy / Gambling / Re: Gambler's fallacy, what do you think? on: March 29, 2015, 10:54:30 AM
I think the gambler's fallacy theory could be applied to sportsbetting too because for example the France-Brazil game yesterday finished 1-3 and knowing that the last game in Brazil ended 3-0 I would have thought now it was time for France to win having less substitutes in the team but guess what it the stats don't matter and each event is one unaffected instance. And yes I lost my bet on France to win  Cool

Not really. In sports, there are too many factors to accurately estimate the probability of a team/player winning, so you don't even reach the point of gambler's fallacy. Besides, in sports, events could be connected.

For example, if you lost to the team yesterday, you might be more motivated to play better today. Or perhaps you're so scared you can't perform your best. So yeah, it doesn't really apply to sports.
That's true. Let's say you're playing slots, you're betting on a random event, calculated by an algorithm inside the machine.
In case of a football match on the other hand you have to consider things like: both team's performance against each other in the past and their world ranking, the current condition of the team and recent matches, but also completely random events, like fouls or red cards, that can completely change the outcome of the game. Even a much better team will have a hard time if it loses its key player during a match.

I know a lot of people who make a lot of money with sport bets but i dont think they take in count all those factors honestly. I mean obviously a red card is an important factor but you dont know that will happen and you are betting before the match starts so those events are something you cant count on.

Of course, but what I wanted to say is sports betting is not typical gambling, as it combines the predictable with the unpredictable. Some random facts and some known ones. Let's say one of the top ranked teams faces a team from the second hundred, only that special factor like a red card or a penalty could swing the odds in the underdog's favor. Same thing with recent matches, if a team lost 2 matches against another team in a row, chances they will win are incredibly small, while at the same time two losses in a row at slots don't increase your chance of winning the third one.

Yeah i know what you are saying, past events do affect in sports. like if one team has won 10 games in a row, its likely that they will win most of their incoming games, but its still not exactly correct to say: since they won 10 games they are going to win the next one, or lose it.
1849  Economy / Marketplace / Re: How are altcoins collateral on: March 29, 2015, 10:34:15 AM

You would have to pay back, you know that right? You have 20.000 ltc but you have to give those 50 btc back, ltc would have to go drastically up as you said but its impossible to predict that. Anyways 99% of loans here are for values worth < 1 BTC so they are obviously not for that

Why 'drastically'? Any up movement will give you profit (depends on the loan cost and tx fees). And why do you think you can't do this with <1 BTC loan?

Well basically as you said fees and loan interest would kill your profit. Like lets say 1 BTC = 100$ and 1 LTC = 1$
You have 120 LTC and you take a loan of 1 BTC to buy 100 ltc. you wait for the price to go up and you sell them lets say the price went to 1.2$ per LTC so you would have 120$ or 1.2 BTC (excluding any fees) so you basically won 20$ for that loan, now you have to payback the loan wich will have an interest of 5-10% maybe more in some cases. If it is 10% you have to pay back 1.1 BTC leaving you with 10$ profit (excluding fees) wich is a profit but too small considering all the things you have to do.
1850  Economy / Gambling / Re: Gambler's fallacy, what do you think? on: March 29, 2015, 10:28:57 AM
I think the gambler's fallacy theory could be applied to sportsbetting too because for example the France-Brazil game yesterday finished 1-3 and knowing that the last game in Brazil ended 3-0 I would have thought now it was time for France to win having less substitutes in the team but guess what it the stats don't matter and each event is one unaffected instance. And yes I lost my bet on France to win  Cool

Not really. In sports, there are too many factors to accurately estimate the probability of a team/player winning, so you don't even reach the point of gambler's fallacy. Besides, in sports, events could be connected.

For example, if you lost to the team yesterday, you might be more motivated to play better today. Or perhaps you're so scared you can't perform your best. So yeah, it doesn't really apply to sports.
That's true. Let's say you're playing slots, you're betting on a random event, calculated by an algorithm inside the machine.
In case of a football match on the other hand you have to consider things like: both team's performance against each other in the past and their world ranking, the current condition of the team and recent matches, but also completely random events, like fouls or red cards, that can completely change the outcome of the game. Even a much better team will have a hard time if it loses its key player during a match.

I know a lot of people who make a lot of money with sport bets but i dont think they take in count all those factors honestly. I mean obviously a red card is an important factor but you dont know that will happen and you are betting before the match starts so those events are something you cant count on.
1851  Other / Meta / Re: Remove All Faucets from Service Announcements on: March 29, 2015, 09:09:54 AM
And after the newbies spend hours and hours of their time trying to get "dust" from these faucets the next thing they tend to do is post in Technical Support complaining that they can't spend their dust without paying a huge fee.

So IMO the deeper you can bury them the better (I no longer bother replying to the posts for help with dust and I think even DannyHamilton is losing patience with that as the same question appears at least once per week).

These sorts of things really do not help to promote Bitcoin in any positive way at all.


You guys care too much about faucets but when it comes to ponzis and other similar scams you made an entire sub section just for it, i will never understand it.
1852  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: March 29, 2015, 07:45:59 AM

So then according to your logic, the devil has some power over god, since he created destruction. And also, you contradicted yourself, again, you said earlier that God created nature which you believe to be supernatural. The definition of destruction is: the action or process of causing so much damage to something that it no longer exists or cannot be repaired. That can pertain to death, disease, etc, all of which are apart of nature. But, you said the devil created destruction not god, but then you earlier said that god created nature...Which one is it? You're basically putting the devil in the bible on parity with god in the bible. Wow, are you really this clueless?

Besides that, have you honestly even read the bible to which you mindlessly believe in? The god in the bible has destroyed more innocent people than Satan did. Yes read that again, the god in the bible has killed more innocent people than the devil in the bible. He's killed innocent children, old women, old men, young men, animals, but not young women, he left them to get raped.

Face it, he's an evil god. Your own words are hurting your nonsensical argument.

Read this and go through your dear bible, http://dwindlinginunbelief.blogspot.com/2010/04/drunk-with-blood-gods-killings-in-bible.html

You are completely mistaken.

What God? You seem to believe that God exists after all. Since you believe He exists, why don't you start some new threads regarding His attributes and the way things work, so that people can find out all about Him? That way we can save this thread for what it asks, scientific proof that God exists, as I have at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395.

Smiley

Hey you wanted to make a list of fallacies in that link? You dont need to, here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fallacies

You can find them all.


This makes me smile lol

The list isn't complete.   Smiley

Maybe, but it has all your fallacies in it Smiley
1853  Economy / Marketplace / Re: How are altcoins collateral on: March 29, 2015, 07:44:06 AM
If someone believes the LTC/BTC exchange rate will increase then they would take that loan.

No, what im saying is that if you already have the amount of money you need in altcoins what would be the point of asking for a loan

It's very simple...they are asking for a loan despite the fact that they already have funds available.
They just don't want to risk their own money but hope to turn the loan money into a profit.

That makes no sense because they are giving a collateral thats worth 120% of the loan wich is THEIR money so they are actually risking more money.

Have you ever heard of leverage?

Lets assume you have 10000 LTC. and you think in the next 4 weeks LTC will go up drastically. You can now borrow 50 BTC and give the 10000 LTC as collateral. Now you buy more LTC with that BTC and now have nearly 20000 LTC long position. So instead of selling LTC and buying LTC ( ...) you can go the collateral loan route.

That is also how financial markets work basically, but due to repercussion, they can offer a lower collateral and thus a higher leverage.

You would have to pay back, you know that right? You have 20.000 ltc but you have to give those 50 btc back, ltc would have to go drastically up as you said but its impossible to predict that. Anyways 99% of loans here are for values worth < 1 BTC so they are obviously not for that
1854  Economy / Auctions / Re: [WTS] Full member with Potential for Senior and BTC AVATAR on: March 29, 2015, 07:38:44 AM
Description: Full Member which will go 370+ on posting (High ranked Senior member) , has a BTC AVATAR
Starting bid: 0.4
Buy it now: 0.5
Increment: 0.001
End date and time: 24 hours after last bid
Payment methods accepted: BTC
Additional information: Date Registered:   June , 2012| Post and Activity = 220+ | Trust:   0: -0 / +0(0) | Avatar : Bitcoin |Not hacked/stolen | Signed message available



Too high starting bid! You get a senior easily with 0.15 to 0.2 BTC!

Thats a funny advice coming from the guy who sells his 999dice account for 1.8 btc
1855  Economy / Auctions / Re: 999DICE ACCOUNT WITH 5134 Refs Auction! on: March 28, 2015, 09:44:32 PM

You show proof of your stats and earnings... like this:



That wouldnt be proof, anyways he said 500k per day and some doges too wich is 0.01 per day at most, so in 1 year if you are lucky you could probably maybe get 1.8 btc back from your investment and as i said thats only if all of them keep playing wich i doubt so the price is way too high, starting bid should be 0.5 at most
1856  Economy / Marketplace / Re: People lending no collateral? on: March 28, 2015, 07:22:01 PM
Not if you give out 100s of loans to the correct people (those with background/trust on the forums).

People are selling forum accounts - so trust on the forums doesn't  mean much. Any reliable user will be able to provide a collateral.

Yes thats pretty much the problem with trust unless its someone really trusted and famous like dooglus, i would trust dooglus of course but normal users can just buy accounts or trust
1857  Other / Off-topic / Re: VOD IS INDEED OYO!! on: March 28, 2015, 05:53:30 PM
hold up
wait a minute
who gives a fuck about it

lol.  You are trying to apply logic to the OP who doesn't understand what logic is.   Wink

Wait, I thought this thread was some kind of joke

It is to everyone but the OP. Roll Eyes


What you saying mate, this is serious business here dont try to hide the fact that you are indeed DECKSPERIMENT
1858  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: March 27, 2015, 09:09:45 AM
So anything that you dont like you call it off-topic, well thats one way to handle it

Lol.  This entire thread is offtopic.  BADecker was proven wrong 100+ pages ago.

He just posts so his priest won't kick him out of the cult.  Each member needs to try and convert so many souls each week.   Wink

Now you are doing it. Rather than show any evidence for or against God like BADecker shows for God at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395, you attempt to badmouth him.

Smiley
http://www.biblicalnonsense.com/

http://www.debunkingskeptics.com/DebunkingChristians/Page5.htm

http://backyardskeptics.com/wordpress/arguments-against-gods-existence/

http://infidels.org/library/modern/mathew/arguments.html

There you go
1859  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: March 27, 2015, 06:33:14 AM
Perhaps we should refrain from such activities for fear of being overcome by malevolent spirits until we understand exactly what is going on, and until we can retain REAL control at all times in the operations.

BADecker,

If exact knowledge and full control was required for all endeavors, then there would be no New World, no Space Program, and quite certainly NO BIBLE!

I advise you not to call my GOD the devil until you know EXACTLY what is going on.

You claim that GOD HIMSELF has real control over the content of the Bible, so then why is God described as "jealous"?
God's messenger Hatonn delivers a message that is both literal and rational; this is what a spiritual teaching should look like.

Here is some more context for our discussion:

If you dally in Satanism; you will attract the “god of the world”, Satan, or his henchmen. I must ask you--how does your minister contact God? How do you commune with Christ? Through prayer? So do the witches and Satanists use prayer! I ask you to use caution and guide yourselves most diligently--HOWEVER, IF YOU LUMP INTO A GROUPING ALL ENERGIES FROM THE BEYOND CONSCIOUSNESS, YOU WILL MISS OF OUR INSTRUCTIONS FOR WE HAVE NO OTHER MEANS OF COMMUNICATION. THROUGH SCRIBES SUCH AS THIS ONE, IS THE MANNER IN WHICH THE FINAL INSTRUCTIONS SHALL COME FORTH FOR IT IS NOT YET TIME FOR OUR PHYSICAL MANIFESTATION UPON YOUR PLACE WITH ALL THE ATTENDANT ATTENTION.

Ambition in itself is a hideous ego monster, tricking you all the way to trust the human consciousness instead of getting God first and, in getting Him, to find a cornucopia of treasure and wisdom, abundance, light and divine love ever flowing. You must know that all desires of the human that you may have in this world of expression and manifestation can be surrendered. When they are surrendered, the divine desiring of God comes into your life and within your being and every expression of that "oneness". Since the God dwells within self, who benefits? To move, with us, along our path there are things which must be overcome in your personalities of desire.

By the way, I still disagree with you about a "jealous/wrathful God"; God is love, and you have called my God the Devil without even so much as pointing out where God's messenger is telling you to do evil.

Sounds like fun. But it is completely off-topic. Can't you start your own thread to address these issues... that you completely take out of context, anyway?

Smiley


So anything that you dont like you call it off-topic, well thats one way to handle it
1860  Economy / Gambling / Re: Anyone have any ideas on where to put my ref link for a dice page? on: March 27, 2015, 05:27:21 AM
On the games and rounds section people has given btc to be their ref, if you think it would be worth it for you, you can do it aswell. You can go check some of these "ref giveaways" on the games and rounds section
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