Martingale is widely agreed to be a method that has massive design flaws (well, most methods do due to the gambler's fallacy) and is not going to benefit you unless you have, indeed, an infinite bankroll. A large bankroll is not sufficient and betting limits do also exist. Basically, the only time martingale works is if you have no reason to use it all. Just avoid it, yeah?  Well martingale is just the most famous, thats why is widely agreed to be a bad method but in reality all methods are bad, there is no better strategy than others. The only better strategy is to do a whole bet instead of small bets wich gives you slightly better odds. |
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Change my rank to full member now, thanks.
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The post you were replying to was deleted, along with several others (13), all at the same time.
If they was removed, I'm satisfied. You could see how one could easily see "favoritism" because none of their posts were removed (in a timely manner to mine being removed). Like I said before, would not have cared at all if mine were deleted with theirs, I know they wasn't suppose to be there, and was trying to get it to the appropriate topic. EDIT: Thx for the response Badbear. But did you report them tho? Maybe a few people reported yours and not the others and probably the mods just deleted yours because there werent any reports of the other comments, it would be helpful to get a message every time you report someone and its a successful report instead of having to go to the report option, see if you are still at the % you were before and that wont be accurate because maybe the mods didnt do anything yet. |
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beware viral is scam coin and many scammers involve in that coin that is just a shit coin, dont allow them to access to make post from your twitter account.
Funny you would say that when you are advertising a ponzi scheme  It doesnt even matter if they are a scam coin or not, there is no way i would allow anyone to post on my twitter |
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Do no make the mistake to allow an unknown company or whatever they are to post on your twitter or update your status, this is an obvious scam unless proven differently. If they wanted promotion why not just ask for us to make a tweet and pay us 0.001 for it?
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Because most people reading this didn't see the original threads, I want to sum up what happened.
I played on 999dice and won a lot. No insignificant sum.
And then I started losing like crazy, to the tune of "an absolute fuckton" of BTC. Which is when I started looking, and noticed their scam system.
So I wrote a javascript bot that would click 'set client seed' and set it to a random value FOR EVERY ROLL. Once I did this, shockingly (I know), my horrific losing streak ended and I won back about 42 of my lost bitcoin.
Which is when the admin noticed what I was doing, and banned me from the site, and threatened to confiscate any deposits I made from then on.
So I called them out publicly, at first they didn't respond, then responded with BS accusations I had attempted to scam them first (Side note: Even if I had, that's irrelevant and has nothing to do with them cheating their customers). Once it got big and all the crypto news outlets were reporting it, they changed their system so it LOOKS like they made an improvement, but really did not. It's no better than it was before this all started. But there are the 999dice kool aid drinkers who will swear up and down it's fair (while, I'd imagine, they have never actually verified a bet there).
If you play there, you deserve to lose every penny, because you're an idiot.
("You" being figurative, this isn't directed at anyone in particular. Well, unless you play there. Then I mean you.)
Yeah thats what i was saying when i was talking with dooglus about it, the customers there seem to be really stupid like extremely stupid, im not really sure why but seems like all of them like it there. Im not going to lie, i liked the site aswell it was simple and fast. Now the problem is, how do you prove they are cheating for sure or anyone else that might be doing these kind of tricks? And anyways isnt most casinos online that dont use bitcoins not provably fair? |
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There will always be a way for the house to cheat. Is there a browser plugin to auto verify if it is fair? Because tbh someone placing lots of bets is very unlikely to check all the numbers. I know I would not. If you are betting fast and not notating the checks, then they may be able to cheat right in front of your face because you are not paying attention.
Seriously if someone made a browser extension that auto checked this stuff I bet you could sell it. Even if you only charged .05 btc, I bet you could make some money.
You are welcome for the awesome idea B)
Yeah but we already discussed that, no casino would do that because they would be eventually caught, of course most people wont verify each bet but when someone does and founds out the site was cheating, thats it, the site is dead. If anyone else knows something that we dont, speak to us! |
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So it would be plain impossible for, primedice as an example, to cheat the rolls? I have a friend who played there, by my advice and he said that they were definitely cheating, i told him about provably fair but he still said they were cheaters so i was wondering if you could really cheat the system.
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Hi change my rank to full member, do i have to enroll again for that happening or you can do it yourself?
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:facepalm:
We are all involved in a technology which, being decentralised, can offer a future free of government interference.
In the meantime, however, ANY centralised service you use on the internet could expose your personal information to nefarious types, either black-hat hackers or government agents.
How about you just behave yourself as far as you are able in the meantime and assume that anything you do online is being watched.
Because, otherwise, you are declaring the sky to be falling here at BCT, while ignoring the fact that every other facet of the WWW is equally prone to exposing your personal data.
Its not like could, it is. Everyone knows it, i guess? Of course government has access to certain personal data when needed, why wouldnt they? If you didnt do anything wrong why would you care? Its not like they are watching every single person all the time, it seems that thats what some people think... |
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How do we know they are legit? I dont think its worth it anyways or let me put it in other words, it will be really hard to sell that book online and you are only getting 0.007 per sale, unless you are someone famous that can really promote it and even then would still be hard.
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I dont have enough knowledge about these kind of things and thats why i am asking it. Is there any way to cheat it? To make it look like the rolls were fair when they were actually being manipulated?
Yes there is, Casino that dont show hashes beforehand could be manipulating the result. That is why it is important to show hashes beforehand but most people are not aware of this Another thing will be skipping nonce. Basically with each bet of the hash the nonce increase, if a casino is skipping nonce than the site could alter the result of the game i.e player betting at 49.5 % chance at 1 % edge dice sites nonce 3 - rolls 67.23 ---- Player bet low -> lose nonce 2 - rolls 47.61 ---- Player bet low -> win >>> the house skip this nonce and goes to nonce 3 nonce 1 - rolls 90.34 ---- Player bet low -> lose nonce 0 - rolls 97.11 ---- Player bet low -> lose The house could be skipping nonce and goes straight to nonce 3 making them could alter the result of the rolls Im a bit confused, whats the nonce exactly? This? In security engineering, a nonce is an arbitrary number used only once in a cryptographic communication. Like asigning a random number to each roll? Not random number. To explain it simply nonce is nothing more or less a number to indicate your roll sequence roll number 1 roll number 2 roll number 3 roll number 4 In nonce it will be nonce 0, nonce 1, nonce 2 and nonce 3. The nonce will keep on increasing as long as you are still rolling and it will goes back to nonce 0 if you change your hashes. If you wish to try on this, you can try it here http://dicesites.com/primedice/verifierI see now. Then its not possible for them to cheat doing that because you would notice it fast enough right? But you have to verify each roll, you cant verify all your rolls at once right? Thats why you need to use the nonce for each roll verified?
Not impossible , they can still cheat but player will notice it right away if they verify their bet but most people tend to not verify their bet that is why this loophole could be used to cheat by the site Could there be any way that when you try to verify it they would know and they would change the number, you have to copy the seed to verify it so maybe when you control + c they automatically change the nonce to something that would seem normal when they were cheating? I dont know if im expressing correctly. pd: Im making all these questions because some casinos have managed to win quite a lot of money in a really short time wich makes it suspicious. No the can't do that. Remember that when you play in a casino you ALWAYS play against the odds. So it's just matter of luck (and time). The more you play the more chances you have to lose. Yes you play against the odds but when the house edge is so small its suspicious they managed to win so much in such short amount of time. Im not going to say any names, apart from 999dice wich made 3.5k btc already with a 0.1% house edge in a really short time but i can say definitively that they are scam. |
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I dont have enough knowledge about these kind of things and thats why i am asking it. Is there any way to cheat it? To make it look like the rolls were fair when they were actually being manipulated?
Yes there is, Casino that dont show hashes beforehand could be manipulating the result. That is why it is important to show hashes beforehand but most people are not aware of this Another thing will be skipping nonce. Basically with each bet of the hash the nonce increase, if a casino is skipping nonce than the site could alter the result of the game i.e player betting at 49.5 % chance at 1 % edge dice sites nonce 3 - rolls 67.23 ---- Player bet low -> lose nonce 2 - rolls 47.61 ---- Player bet low -> win >>> the house skip this nonce and goes to nonce 3 nonce 1 - rolls 90.34 ---- Player bet low -> lose nonce 0 - rolls 97.11 ---- Player bet low -> lose The house could be skipping nonce and goes straight to nonce 3 making them could alter the result of the rolls Im a bit confused, whats the nonce exactly? This? In security engineering, a nonce is an arbitrary number used only once in a cryptographic communication. Like asigning a random number to each roll? Not random number. To explain it simply nonce is nothing more or less a number to indicate your roll sequence roll number 1 roll number 2 roll number 3 roll number 4 In nonce it will be nonce 0, nonce 1, nonce 2 and nonce 3. The nonce will keep on increasing as long as you are still rolling and it will goes back to nonce 0 if you change your hashes. If you wish to try on this, you can try it here http://dicesites.com/primedice/verifierI see now. Then its not possible for them to cheat doing that because you would notice it fast enough right? But you have to verify each roll, you cant verify all your rolls at once right? Thats why you need to use the nonce for each roll verified?
Not impossible , they can still cheat but player will notice it right away if they verify their bet but most people tend to not verify their bet that is why this loophole could be used to cheat by the site Could there be any way that when you try to verify it they would know and they would change the number, you have to copy the seed to verify it so maybe when you control + c they automatically change the nonce to something that would seem normal when they were cheating? I dont know if im expressing correctly. pd: Im making all these questions because some casinos have managed to win quite a lot of money in a really short time wich makes it suspicious. |
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I dont have enough knowledge about these kind of things and thats why i am asking it. Is there any way to cheat it? To make it look like the rolls were fair when they were actually being manipulated?
Yes there is, Casino that dont show hashes beforehand could be manipulating the result. That is why it is important to show hashes beforehand but most people are not aware of this Another thing will be skipping nonce. Basically with each bet of the hash the nonce increase, if a casino is skipping nonce than the site could alter the result of the game i.e player betting at 49.5 % chance at 1 % edge dice sites nonce 3 - rolls 67.23 ---- Player bet low -> lose nonce 2 - rolls 47.61 ---- Player bet low -> win >>> the house skip this nonce and goes to nonce 3 nonce 1 - rolls 90.34 ---- Player bet low -> lose nonce 0 - rolls 97.11 ---- Player bet low -> lose The house could be skipping nonce and goes straight to nonce 3 making them could alter the result of the rolls Im a bit confused, whats the nonce exactly? This? In security engineering, a nonce is an arbitrary number used only once in a cryptographic communication. Like asigning a random number to each roll? Not a random number, but the nonce should go up by 1 after each bet, until the player decides to change his server seed and client seed. The bet result will be generated with something like sha(server seed:client seed:nonce). This way, the player can keep using the same seeds for making as many bets as he wants. The house could skip nonce to cheat the players, but it will be noticeable if the player verify his bets, just like in the dicebitcoin incident. I see now. Then its not possible for them to cheat doing that because you would notice it fast enough right? But you have to verify each roll, you cant verify all your rolls at once right? Thats why you need to use the nonce for each roll verified? |
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I dont have enough knowledge about these kind of things and thats why i am asking it. Is there any way to cheat it? To make it look like the rolls were fair when they were actually being manipulated?
Yes there is, Casino that dont show hashes beforehand could be manipulating the result. That is why it is important to show hashes beforehand but most people are not aware of this Another thing will be skipping nonce. Basically with each bet of the hash the nonce increase, if a casino is skipping nonce than the site could alter the result of the game i.e player betting at 49.5 % chance at 1 % edge dice sites nonce 3 - rolls 67.23 ---- Player bet low -> lose nonce 2 - rolls 47.61 ---- Player bet low -> win >>> the house skip this nonce and goes to nonce 3 nonce 1 - rolls 90.34 ---- Player bet low -> lose nonce 0 - rolls 97.11 ---- Player bet low -> lose The house could be skipping nonce and goes straight to nonce 3 making them could alter the result of the rolls Im a bit confused, whats the nonce exactly? This? In security engineering, a nonce is an arbitrary number used only once in a cryptographic communication. Like asigning a random number to each roll? |
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I dont have much of a bitcoin to worry about, but one of buddy owns a lot and from what he's done, I think it is safe to put your coins into paper wallet. But don't need to go overboard like him by tattoing the butt with the keys.  Haha well i dont have a lot myself either to worry too much about it but with the recent collapses of famous exchanges, this forum getting hacked and a lot of cases of people getting hacked aswell i started worrying, ive always stored my coins into different ways, a little on the exchanges and a little on my wallet. |
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I dont have enough knowledge about these kind of things and thats why i am asking it. Is there any way to cheat it? To make it look like the rolls were fair when they were actually being manipulated?
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Obviously is not, its impossible. Im sure you know a lot of cases of way bigger companies getting hacked and when i say way bigger i mean the biggest, for fuck sake even NASA got hacked by a kid. Its plain impossible to prevent such thing if someone skilled enough is willing to do attack the forum.
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Who cares, we do not do anything illegal.
Did you read OP? Or are you just talking randomly. He never said WE are doing illegal things, he said theymos is doing bad thinga since he "is a government agent" i dont agree with it but thats what op point is. Incredibly enough theymos didnt delete this post and it doesnt seem he will wich really makes him look innocent to me. |
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There are plenty of big companies that have been hacked in the past, doesnt matter their budget or how big they are, that doesnt prove anything.
Name these "big companies" with websites constantly going offline (for days on end) because their service providers were "social engineered" to hand over root password to their servers. As why do they "promote" ponzies wich they not, it was already mentioned plenty of times that is better to have them all in 1 place, i dont agree with it but its what it is.
Having a section dedicated to promotion of ponzis is promoting ponzis, no lie. And how is it that a forum started to discuss and promote Bitcoin suddenly has not just gambling & warez selling sections, but a section dedicated to ponzis? Which friend of Bitcoin thought this is a good idea? Wake up, bro! The other points you are using are just theories and conspiracies with no real evidence behind them
Feel free to offer more plausible explanations Target, HomeDepot, ChickFileta, Anthem, Blue Cross, Sony, USPS, Staples, KMart, Dairy Queen, SuperValu, Jimmy John's, JP Morgan, PFChangs, Epsilon, Zappos, Adobe Systems, Yahoo, Marriot, Hilton, etc. Those are what come up for large businesses hacked in 2014. Facebook was hacked in 2013, with 1.016 Billion dollars in security spendings, and an additional 39.9 million in maintenance costs. see red bold text, tell me which of your list fits. Bitcointalk doesn't promote ponzis, they just aren't against the rules.
Before something could be "against the rules," rules must exist. AFAIK, there are no official rules on Bitcointalk, so nothing could be against the rules. Creating a special section for promotion of an activity constitutes promotion. For example, child porn is not explicitly prohibited here, consider starting a section called "Child Porn." People complained about them being mixed in with other gambling games, so they were given their own section. Keep in mind, dice sites are just as illegal in the US as ponzi schemes. Its up to the operators to block the IPs of users from countries where their services are illegal.
Theymos is a US citizen, operating this website from US soil. US law applies. Any of this stuff being legal in Somalia or on Pluto is neither here nor there. Now you are just talking trash, what is the proof and evidence for all your claims? Just because those websites that got hacked didnt get hacked many times that still doesnt mean anything, this forum hasnt been hacked so many times either. |
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