phoon - too much for zblock
BTC add: 1Lkigyku24WFMQ7gdHPKhHvQRLc5UpyBe6
YOU WIN! ok Next quote for 20k too ''I can't kill him, he is too tanky'' |
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Im feeling generous today so i will make a little giveaway. Ok i will be posting some quotes from a video on youtube and you have to guess which video im talking about.
"this kid pushes from ivy, out middle through our connector like a SPEED DEMON"
Guess the video for 20k !
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I have seen a million times these claims that bitcoin will be hacked or destroyed by evil banks and big governments. But you know what I have never seen? A realistic way that it could happen.
But he is talking about hackers that are not affiliated with the government or any other institution. Im sure if a hacker is that good he wouldn't be wasting his time hacking the blockchain, i mean there must be plenty of other things to hack that would give him way more profit than that, surely. If the blockchain was hacked people would notice, eventually, right? So he would essentially just destroy bitcoin and he would not get as much profit, right? |
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It's a tedious process honestly, yea you could ask for collateral and if they give you altcoins is all good but bitcointalk accounts as collateral are just painful, you have to either sell them which you might not be able to do so fast or join a sig campaign and pay for the loan yourself which is tedious so if someone ends up not paying you have to be dedicated to it and recover your money using your time.
I think I might proceed with it actually. Alt coins seems a good, solid collateral, even if I don't receive many requests because of it, I atleast will come out well if I'm not paid back. Thanks  Unfortunately there is already people that offers loans without collateral, some of them to increase their trust some others to try make some profit, that would make it really hard for you to get requests from people who actually have alt-coins to offer as a collateral, 95% of the loans requested are usually stupid loans, anyone who needs a loan < 0.10 btc will probably use it for gambling, increasing trust, some of them might actually need it but not too many. |
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Just a small idea maybe to have control more over each section having its own scam folder or closed and no longer in operation for the trades sections hardware and investment games gambling sites. This way would be a lot more laid out than people just marking scam and it being cluttered up. This way topic can be closed and moved and put into scam section of that section of the forums where if mods are active can move posts into it or have a set mod to keep members aware and move stuff into it. That way it frees up the legit and paying sections and keeps the scams or problem sites in its own section.
How do you decide if something is a scam or not? If they have not scammed yet there is almost no way to know 100% if they are going to scam and 100% confirmed scammers get red negative trust and just leave the forum, i mean no one would try to promote a website that has already been marked as scam in the forum. |
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I'm frankly surprised it's only 25%, given how easy it is and will continue to be to get rich from this thing.
Im not sure what do you mean, for some people to get rich from bitcoins or even have a profit other people has to lose, not everyone can make profit otherwise no one would make profit at all, do you understand how trading works? |
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It's a tedious process honestly, yea you could ask for collateral and if they give you altcoins is all good but bitcointalk accounts as collateral are just painful, you have to either sell them which you might not be able to do so fast or join a sig campaign and pay for the loan yourself which is tedious so if someone ends up not paying you have to be dedicated to it and recover your money using your time.
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....I'm out over 2,500 pounds....
Sorry if you already have and I missed it, but please explain how with some proofs. Thanks. I havent followed this thread for a while, are they already a confirmed scam ? I mean did they scam everyone yet or are they still "legit" |
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So, I think forum administration should find a way to stop scammers open new thread in marketplace section.
That is literally the entire purpose of the Trust system. It is designed to stop people trading with scammers. I don't think forum administration should start placing posting restrictions on those with negative trust, as that's a terrible idea. Some people don't even have negative trust for "scamming". There should be restriction for that. One person = One threads in one month only. That would be a better solution.
No. Real bad idea. 1 thread a month, or any set time period, is going to block a lot of situations in which >1 thread may be needed. Yes but something like only 1 thread per category, like if you are selling physical coins just make 1 thread with all of them instead of 1 thread per type of coin. I can see combining some threads. But 1 thread per months is just to much to ask. It would be horrible finding products. I can see physcial coins, miners, etc a seller combing them into groups. But if you did all of what some sell it would not even fit it all in subject line. Yep the 1 month limitation is not good, maybe make another section or sections in the marketplace for physical coins and other common products there, i mean physical coins take up 50% of the whole marketplace I know people have tried for it before, but a sub forum for coins might be worth it. It's grown into a good sized business. And has many many repeat customers and sellers. It would clean it up some, does not help scam OP talk about though. Well im not sure about the scam part, i don't think scams happen that often and im pretty sure if someone is marked red not many people would want to do business with them, maybe with escrow. |
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Count me in the same boat. Really don't know what to do next. It sucks when you know you are not a scammer , and show him every proof of it but he disregards it all making weird impossible theories.
Although quickseller is the only one to give you negative trust rating, you can see that you have also 2 neutral but bad ratings from highly trusted people so maybe quickseller is not so wrong after all? Tomatocage did not add a trust-abuser because quickseller is not one, he would have negative ratings by now if he really was one |
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So, I think forum administration should find a way to stop scammers open new thread in marketplace section.
That is literally the entire purpose of the Trust system. It is designed to stop people trading with scammers. I don't think forum administration should start placing posting restrictions on those with negative trust, as that's a terrible idea. Some people don't even have negative trust for "scamming". There should be restriction for that. One person = One threads in one month only. That would be a better solution.
No. Real bad idea. 1 thread a month, or any set time period, is going to block a lot of situations in which >1 thread may be needed. Yes but something like only 1 thread per category, like if you are selling physical coins just make 1 thread with all of them instead of 1 thread per type of coin. I can see combining some threads. But 1 thread per months is just to much to ask. It would be horrible finding products. I can see physcial coins, miners, etc a seller combing them into groups. But if you did all of what some sell it would not even fit it all in subject line. Yep the 1 month limitation is not good, maybe make another section or sections in the marketplace for physical coins and other common products there, i mean physical coins take up 50% of the whole marketplace |
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So, I think forum administration should find a way to stop scammers open new thread in marketplace section.
That is literally the entire purpose of the Trust system. It is designed to stop people trading with scammers. I don't think forum administration should start placing posting restrictions on those with negative trust, as that's a terrible idea. Some people don't even have negative trust for "scamming". There should be restriction for that. One person = One threads in one month only. That would be a better solution.
No. Real bad idea. 1 thread a month, or any set time period, is going to block a lot of situations in which >1 thread may be needed. Yes but something like only 1 thread per category, like if you are selling physical coins just make 1 thread with all of them instead of 1 thread per type of coin. |
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As far as i know, in btc-e, for exmple, there is no limit on how many bitcoins you can trade each day, there are some limits on how much money you can withdraw per day with paypal but not in banks.
It seems btc-e.com have already changed that policy they now have a withdrawer limit and delay fund more than usual now. Dude, that's what i said, i said they do not have TRADING limits, you can sell 100 or 1000 bitcoins for dollars, they do have withdrawals limits. |
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As you know, bitcointalk marketplace section open for every product but it is very hard to sell something. Why?
-Scammers. First of all, scammers(users with negative feedback) can open new threads in marketplace section. That is so stupid because when somebody buy something from scammers.........they get scammed! So, I think forum administration should find a way to stop scammers open new thread in marketplace section.
-People who constantly open new threads. I hate these people. Usually they sell domains and all other useless things. I mean, moderators needs to check this section more often because they are the real scammers. They scam the marketplace section and they try to dominate with their threads.
There should be restriction for that. One person = One threads in one month only. That would be a better solution.
If we can get rid of from these two things, marketplace section will be more safe and more clean.
Hope mods or admins read these and take some actions.
Thanks.
There is no way to stop scammers because they can just create new accounts over and over or even buy them. As for the second point, it may be a good idea to moderate a bit better the spam of new threads if they are each for each domain and force them to open only one thread with all their domains. |
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Well I don't particularly see anything wrong with it. It's a Forum people come here to post their views and they have every right to do so, if this thread is wrong then I am sure there must be many more threads same as this in other sections as well.
Infact some of the topics itself are created over and over again phrased differently. For ex. "What's the best Bitcoin Wallet" "How can I keep my bitcoins safe" "Which wallet is safe" or "What's the best way to earn bitcoins for free" " Where to get free Bitcoins" and there must be many other topics on which threads are created over and over again and they're discussed over and over again.
So should we start reporting and try to get these threads deleted/locked because they were duplicate threads?
Yes, we should? People is getting banned everyday, have you seen the meta section? Almost every day there is someone complaining about their ban because they were posting insubstantial and non-constructive posts so why are these allowed? As i said deleting the thread might not be a good idea but locking it, i think its fair enough, the question was simple, what is the safest dice strategy, the answer has been given, a few times, no point in continuing the conversation at that point, dont you think? Yes, it was a simple question and agree that mostly the question gets answered with first few replies in almost all the threads but it also happens that sometimes there is a disagreement or someone thinks that the a particular reply was not correct or partially correct and then it gets quoted and the other person posts his/her view and then it sparks a discussion of what is right or wrong, like what is happening right now with this question. Then there are questions which are simply like a poll and then everybody tries to post their point of view, I don't know if there is anything wrong with it but I am not going to start reporting these because I don't think these threads will get locked and what will happen is I'll get my good reports percentage dropped (which I have managed to get up somewhat), so I don't think it's a good idea. And it's all about perception, a post may look useless to me but it might not to you or others. I experienced that when I reported some posts made by a user to ndnhc when I was in their campaign and he told me that according to them they were good. What you said it's true but sometimes things get out of hand, at least in my opinion, take a look at the famous thread of martingale with 70~ pages already, do you really think 70 pages to discuss a strategy that does not work is something needed? |
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It's a risk they have to take in dealing with that kind of business. They must be prepared to both earn and in misluck loose their money or product. That is just how it goes.
Honestly if you do it right there is almost no risk, obviously nothing is 100% safe but following some guidelines you can definitely be really safe |
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I still don't understand why is people so obsessed with getting positive trust, what do you need it for? Besides scamming i don't see any other option or benefit to have positive trust, you can always trade and get loans using an escrow, so you don't really need positive trust for that, so why do you want to build trust?
Not all is for scam. The logic is easy to get understood. Once you get positive trust. It means you are trusted by ppl and You have some reputation. The other party doing business with you will then trust you as well. They will go first and eliminate the middle man, which will boost the speed of the deals. You will be easy to do business here. Do you really believe that? If he wanted to do that why not start doing his thing, whatever it might be, trading in this case, i guess and he would eventually get the trust, asking this kind of questions is really suspicious, at least for me. Besides you would need a lot A LOT of trust to eliminate the middle man, personally i woulnd't trust anyone that is not a super trusted escrow already, but that's me. |
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I still don't understand why is people so obsessed with getting positive trust, what do you need it for? Besides scamming i don't see any other option or benefit to have positive trust, you can always trade and get loans using an escrow, so you don't really need positive trust for that, so why do you want to build trust?
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Well I don't particularly see anything wrong with it. It's a Forum people come here to post their views and they have every right to do so, if this thread is wrong then I am sure there must be many more threads same as this in other sections as well.
Infact some of the topics itself are created over and over again phrased differently. For ex. "What's the best Bitcoin Wallet" "How can I keep my bitcoins safe" "Which wallet is safe" or "What's the best way to earn bitcoins for free" " Where to get free Bitcoins" and there must be many other topics on which threads are created over and over again and they're discussed over and over again.
So should we start reporting and try to get these threads deleted/locked because they were duplicate threads?
Yes, we should? People is getting banned everyday, have you seen the meta section? Almost every day there is someone complaining about their ban because they were posting insubstantial and non-constructive posts so why are these allowed? As i said deleting the thread might not be a good idea but locking it, i think its fair enough, the question was simple, what is the safest dice strategy, the answer has been given, a few times, no point in continuing the conversation at that point, dont you think? |
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Will be recording a video soon of :
refreshing ticket which states I'm permanently banned for scripting showing a part of my summoner name
refreshing match history on euw.op.gg showing a part of my username showing that it has been since active after the ban
refreshing ticket which states I'm now unbanned showing a part of my username
Going to be all recorded on camtasia recorder
I don't know, maybe you were able to get unbanned because you were banned wrongly in the first place which could happen and if you proved somehow that you were indeed innocent they might have unbanned you but that does NOT mean that everyone else would get un banned as well. |
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