Down to 280 ~ I knew it was a matter of time for it to go down specially when the price increases so fast and so much. It went from 250~ to 310~ in pretty much a day and something which is not a good sign if nothing important happened that affected bitcoin and in this case nothing really happened except litecoin going up, probably that helped bitcoin too but now that litecoin crashed as well, bitcoin followed too.
Which ticker you get that figure of $280 from? Thought preev is the most accurate and lowest around? it has 3 different it sources from. Well i usually get the price from btc-e and okcoin, right now for example the price on btc-e is 278 and okcoin is on 285 so 280~ Of course there are more exchanges with different prices but those 2 are pretty famous and important. |
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Down to 280 ~ I knew it was a matter of time for it to go down specially when the price increases so fast and so much. It went from 250~ to 310~ in pretty much a day and something which is not a good sign if nothing important happened that affected bitcoin and in this case nothing really happened except litecoin going up, probably that helped bitcoin too but now that litecoin crashed as well, bitcoin followed too.
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It fluctuates. Sometimes its fine and other times it's laggy. I remember it used to be a lot worse the first few months I was here but the speed has improved thankfully though it does have its days. Maybe when the forum is slow it's getting ddosed or something.
Before the last big DDos the forum was running pretty well and the only times it didnt it was because it was down, totally. After that ddos i have experienced a lot of ''lag'' specially on my phone (i dont know if its a coincidence) sometimes i go to ''x'' section and it takes minutes to load but it doesnt give any error. |
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Poi ma si noi ca oameni care minam dupa bitcoin si strangem o suma considerabila noi ce facem nu putem sa ne imbogatim? Daca reusesc sa iau paypal pe acesti bitcoin si sai retrag prin card tot urat este(nu am testat si de asta intreb)?
Si daca este sa fac totul ca la carte sa platesc taxe/impozite si ce natia lor mai vor ei.. o sa fie ok atunci?(sa nu am probleme)
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Nu prea am informatii dar unde trebuie sa intreb legat de asa ceva?(Notar sau avocat sau?)
Da, probabil un avocat stie mai bine decat noi, eu stau in spania si aici este cam asa, daca faci trading cu bitcoins trebuie sa dovedesti ca ai facut tranzactile respective, de exemplu eu am 1 Bitcoin si il vand la 300 de euro, apoi recumpar la 250 si vand iara la 300, cu un benefit de 50 de euro, din aia 50 de euro se aplica taxele respective in fiecare tara, dar depinde cum este legea in romania, eu nu stiu prea bine, aici in spania am vorbit cu un avocat pana la urma care era in tema si a stiut sa imi explice bine. |
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price still go to up guys, holding you coins it will be happen for long time and in chart look like dont want go to down.
I dont see why bitcoin will enter a steady climb when this last increase in price was because of ?? Yes, because of nothing but speculation so i wouldn't trust it too much because it can collapse back to what it was a few days ago pretty easily, theres no way to know which way it will go but it's better to be safe than sorry |
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The colors appear over time, first it will be black then light green and finally dark green, now im not really sure how exactly you go from one to another or how much time has to pass but im sure if you use the search button you will find your answer
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I understand people gets excited when bitcoin or other coins price increase but you gotta be careful and remember tha price is not everything because bitcoins and the other coins are not like normal currencies, for example, when the eur/usd increases dramatically or decreases, theres always a reason behind it, something happens and THEN the price increases/decreases. That is not the case with cryptocurrencies, they often have changes in price for no apparent reason and that is mainly because they are influenced by pretty much nothing but speculation, yes there are some applications for bitcoins in the real world and right now there are stores and shops that use bitcoins but they dont really affect it that much.
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Normal ca daca iti intra in banca sume de peste 10.000 o sa bata la ochii mai ales daca sa intampla des dar daca te platesc in cash nu o sa fie nicio problema, ii tii in cash si nu ii bagi in banca, asa de simplu. Poti sa faci sa fie si legal daca vrei, normal o sa trebuie sa platesti taxele corespundatoare pentru trading. Iti trebuie sa ai un istorial de toate tranzactiile care le faci, cu cat vinzi bitcoin cu cat cumperi.
Normal ca daca iti intra in banca sume de peste 10.000 o sa bata la ochii mai ales daca sa intampla des dar daca te platesc in cash nu o sa fie nicio problema, ii tii in cash si nu ii bagi in banca, asa de simplu. Poti sa faci sa fie si legal daca vrei, normal o sa trebuie sa platesti taxele corespundatoare pentru trading. Iti trebuie sa ai un istorial de toate tranzactiile care le faci, cu cat vinzi bitcoin cu cat cumperi.
pai eu primesc bitcoin ,pe care il platesc cu cash...deci eu raman cu bitcoinul pe care tre sa il transform in cash.Dar dak imi intra in fiecare luna 20 000 in banca,cu siguranta e nasol. Am incercat sa ma documentez un pic,si am vazut ca unii exchangeri ofera visa sau mc...si aici vorbesc de exchangeri mari,gen xmlgold.Au taxele destul de maricele,dar asta e....a lucrat cineva cu cei de la xmlgold?Si daca de exemplu eu imi fac card la ei.si il folosesc aici in tara,sa scot 1000 pe zi(cat au ei limita) credeti k ma pot lua cei de la fisc la intrebari?vreo idee? Multumesc frumos! "normal o sa trebuie sa platesti taxele corespundatoare pentru trading" hm si de unde sa incep (eu minez bitcoin online cu cloud si strans ceva..) si de aia intreb. Pai daca tu esti ala care ramane cu bitcoinul trebuie sa il vinzi cumva, foloseste localbitcoins si o sa poti sa schimbi bitcoinul pe cash si asa nu o sa ai probleme, chestia cu cardul este riscanta chiar daca scoti doar 1000 dupa ceva timp o sa fie clar ca faci ceva ciudat si este foarte probabil sa ai probleme, eu nu ma as juca cu asa ceva Si daca iau cash si i bag dupa in banca e ceva nasol? sau in curand apare https://bit2me.com/ro/index.php daca iau de aici e o problema? In momentul in care apare in banca este o problema chiar daca provine din cash sau din alta parte, daca iei cash trebuie sa ramana in cash. |
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I still feel that you gave a negative trust just based on "assumptions", cuz it has happened before so it will happen again, and as a "trusted" guy hasn't scammed before, so he wont scam in the future. I just feel the neg trust should have been converted to a neutral one(negative is too harsh cuz u gave it based on ASUMPTIONS), and so because of your assumptions, making an account bleed with red trust, is too harsh! I sincerely feel that it could have been a neutral one. If someone has to get scammed he will even get scammed after seeing a red trust, this is just because people tend to ignore the trust ratings because of the way neg. trust gets distributed by other members. The credibility of neg. trust has been reduced a lot and cases like this are making the red trust loose its importance.
I feel the case was more like : The op felt he is trusted, statistically he's untrusted, he offered escrow, hilarious took the offensive approach to defence the community, hilarious gave him a negative trust.
Could have been neutral imo.
Yes because if it was based on evidence then there would be no point talking about it, right? It's normal practice to give negative trust to people who are potentially going to scam, of course, based on asumptions, is not like we can know the future. Also, negative trust isn't only given to past scammers, but those who are extremely likely to. Do you really feel in this case that the user was "extremely" likely to be a scammer? @bold: The negative isn't a permanent one. If the OP proves to be trusted in the coming months, hilariousandco being quite responsible while leaving ratings might reconsider this negative one. This negative is more like a precautionary one rather than a scam accusation.  Yeah that seems to be fine  In my opinion i would say yes, he was extremely likely to scam, why? Well anyone who has low rank, has almost nothing to lose if he ends up scamming, so a newbie has more chances to be a scammer than a legendary member. Second, he had no previous black, green trust and people who have no trust are more likely to scam than people with trust. Third, he wanted to start an escrow service, known to be something only highly trusted members are able to pull off, so why would he do such thing if its not for scam? He obviously knew that 99.9% of the people wont use him as an escrow but maybe someone somewhere would and that would be his chance to scam. So for all these reasons, i believe that he is a potential scammer |
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Si pueden hacer leyes como estas sin ningun tipo de problema me pregunto que otras leyes haran dentro de nada sin que podamos hacer nada.
Poder, sí que podemos. Bastan… no me acuerdo si eran 100 o 500k firmas para poder llevar cualquier proposición al congreso. El problema radica en juntar tantas firmas, lo que viene a significar que no queremos hacer nada. Si eso dice la ley, y si se usa y se presentan leyes reuniendo esa cantidad de firmas, pero la mugre esta en los detalles, si luego hay un solo funcionario que tiene que primeramente comprobar la autenticidad de cada una de las firmas y DNis de todas las leyes propuestas ,,,, (si te descuidas lo mismo no tiene ni ordenador y tiene que ir por ficheros de papel buscando la ficha de cada uno de los firmantes) que si cuando va a terminar lo cambian de puesto y el nuevo que entra tiene que empezar de nuevo ect... que si alguna que pase este proceso ( jamas e oido ninguna que lo hiciera) la denuncian por incostitucional o cualquier cosa y entra en otro largo proceso, donde se puede traspapelar , perder olvidar ect.. y que necesita de amplios recursos economicos por parte de los firmantes ,,, Que basicamente significa que nosotros, los ciudadanos no tenemos poder sobre casi nada y que esas leyes que supuestamente estan para ayudarnos y nos permiten colaborar tambien son una falsa esperanza para que creamos que no somos tan faltos de poder pero como ya he dicho ellos hacen lo que les sale de la p. |
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Normal ca daca iti intra in banca sume de peste 10.000 o sa bata la ochii mai ales daca sa intampla des dar daca te platesc in cash nu o sa fie nicio problema, ii tii in cash si nu ii bagi in banca, asa de simplu. Poti sa faci sa fie si legal daca vrei, normal o sa trebuie sa platesti taxele corespundatoare pentru trading. Iti trebuie sa ai un istorial de toate tranzactiile care le faci, cu cat vinzi bitcoin cu cat cumperi.
pai eu primesc bitcoin ,pe care il platesc cu cash...deci eu raman cu bitcoinul pe care tre sa il transform in cash.Dar dak imi intra in fiecare luna 20 000 in banca,cu siguranta e nasol. Am incercat sa ma documentez un pic,si am vazut ca unii exchangeri ofera visa sau mc...si aici vorbesc de exchangeri mari,gen xmlgold.Au taxele destul de maricele,dar asta e....a lucrat cineva cu cei de la xmlgold?Si daca de exemplu eu imi fac card la ei.si il folosesc aici in tara,sa scot 1000 pe zi(cat au ei limita) credeti k ma pot lua cei de la fisc la intrebari?vreo idee? Multumesc frumos! Pai daca tu esti ala care ramane cu bitcoinul trebuie sa il vinzi cumva, foloseste localbitcoins si o sa poti sa schimbi bitcoinul pe cash si asa nu o sa ai probleme, chestia cu cardul este riscanta chiar daca scoti doar 1000 dupa ceva timp o sa fie clar ca faci ceva ciudat si este foarte probabil sa ai probleme, eu nu ma as juca cu asa ceva |
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It would be pretty interesting but why not just advertise it on this forum as a survey, Afterall this forum has the largest amount of bitcoin users from all around the world, this way it's easier and it's free, if the survey has only a bunch of questions im sure people would complete it for free.
Yes but i said in first post that i`m not interested in the forum users. I`m more interested in those who dont have forum account, but use bitcoin. I`m sure most of bitcoin users are that way, they use it to gamble, or poker, or shop online, but they rarely check this forum, or they dont even know about it. Most of those would be interesting to study, and i know which sites to advertise on them. But most bitcoin users do use this forum and definitely users who gamble use this forum since all the big casinos are being advertised here so im not really sure why are you not interested in the people of this forum. |
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I still feel that you gave a negative trust just based on "assumptions", cuz it has happened before so it will happen again, and as a "trusted" guy hasn't scammed before, so he wont scam in the future. I just feel the neg trust should have been converted to a neutral one(negative is too harsh cuz u gave it based on ASUMPTIONS), and so because of your assumptions, making an account bleed with red trust, is too harsh! I sincerely feel that it could have been a neutral one. If someone has to get scammed he will even get scammed after seeing a red trust, this is just because people tend to ignore the trust ratings because of the way neg. trust gets distributed by other members. The credibility of neg. trust has been reduced a lot and cases like this are making the red trust loose its importance.
I feel the case was more like : The op felt he is trusted, statistically he's untrusted, he offered escrow, hilarious took the offensive approach to defence the community, hilarious gave him a negative trust.
Could have been neutral imo.
Yes because if it was based on evidence then there would be no point talking about it, right? It's normal practice to give negative trust to people who are potentially going to scam, of course, based on asumptions, is not like we can know the future. |
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This is not right!How is this possible? You can unban an account but once the forum moderators find out, they will probably exclude the account once more!
What the hell are you talking about, do you even read or you just post useless trash to increase your post count? This guy is talking about LEAGUE OF LEGENDS accounts, not this forum accounts. You CANT unban lol accounts, no matter what, i never heard of anyone doing it. The price is also extremely fishy, why the hell is OP asking for that exact amount of money? |
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Dude, you asked a question about this issue not long ago, im pretty sure the result of the poll was something along these lines: if we find out your new accounts they will be marked as red, so why are you starting this thread if you already knew this would happen? I seriously dont get it but thanks for letting us know you are btcblogger.
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Claiming an account to be sold/hacked based on the fact that it hasn't been used since long is rubbish. We've seen many moderators going offline for a couple of months. Does that mean that their account has been sold?
Also, what's the problem in offering escrow? The person might be known to the parties in real world and they both might trust him or there can be other cases. He just offered it, he didn't force anyone to use him as an escrow.
I believe its too harsh for hilariousandco to give him a neg trust.
Havent you read the thread? The account being sold or not does not matter. As i said in my previous thread, what is wrong asking for a loan without collateral? No one forces you to accept it yet they usually end up getting negative trust, thats how things work here. I n the trust settings you can read something like: leave neg trust if you think this guy might be a scammer so you are allowed to leave neg feedback if you believe the user might be a potential scammer, saying that i do not see anything wrong with it and if you want to use him as an escrow go ahead and do it is not like negative trust bans your account or locks it so you cant trade with people, its just a rating that you can read Can I ask you one thing? What will you do if you will receive a negative trust (only because the other part doesn't trust you, so you are a potential scammer) and you can't continue to participate to any signature campaign? //Just an hypothetical/absurd case. Well, i have 4 negative trust ratings already, of course they are untrusted so it doesnt really affect me but in the case that i would get a negative trust from a trusted member, i would probably deserve it and there would be no reason to complain so i wouldn't do anything unless it was an absurd trust rating. |
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Claiming an account to be sold/hacked based on the fact that it hasn't been used since long is rubbish. We've seen many moderators going offline for a couple of months. Does that mean that their account has been sold?
Also, what's the problem in offering escrow? The person might be known to the parties in real world and they both might trust him or there can be other cases. He just offered it, he didn't force anyone to use him as an escrow.
I believe its too harsh for hilariousandco to give him a neg trust.
Havent you read the thread? The account being sold or not does not matter. As i said in my previous thread, what is wrong asking for a loan without collateral? No one forces you to accept it yet they usually end up getting negative trust, thats how things work here. In the trust settings you can read something like: leave neg trust if you think this guy might be a scammer so you are allowed to leave neg feedback if you believe the user might be a potential scammer, saying that i do not see anything wrong with it and if you want to use him as an escrow go ahead and do it is not like negative trust bans your account or locks it so you cant trade with people, its just a rating that you can read |
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Ridiculous, really stupid. Why on earth would you give 7k dollars to someone that has no talent whatsoever besides showing her ... You could have spent that money on so many things or donated it to so many causes.
And dont tell me people can do whatever they want with their money, they can but that doesnt mean this is not stupid.
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Normal ca daca iti intra in banca sume de peste 10.000 o sa bata la ochii mai ales daca sa intampla des dar daca te platesc in cash nu o sa fie nicio problema, ii tii in cash si nu ii bagi in banca, asa de simplu. Poti sa faci sa fie si legal daca vrei, normal o sa trebuie sa platesti taxele corespundatoare pentru trading. Iti trebuie sa ai un istorial de toate tranzactiile care le faci, cu cat vinzi bitcoin cu cat cumperi.
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The trust is still valid regardless of whether the account was purchased or not and which I stated it was possibly bought. Yay more preemptive trust vigilantism... just what the forum needs.
Was wondering how long it'd take you to chime in. Next time you do a deal on here use this guy as an escrow. Also let's not forget you were removed for your own trust abuse vigilantism. There are lots of people I don't trust that I don't give negative ratings to, and if I did and I wasn't 100% positive, I would use neutral ratings. You however would rather just destroy this guys reputation on a hunch instead of just making a note on his profile. Anyone who is too lazy to read his trust ratings probably will lose all their money anyway. It didn't take you very long to make this about me. BTW, I wasn't going around playing scambuster, I left a negative rating for some one actively harassing me in my marketplace threads, so try again OCD king. What are you talking about? Have you seen the lending section? Pretty much any newbie or low rank member that asks for loan without collateral is given neg trust by one or various members, this is no different so i don't see why are you so concerned about this specific case when there are hundreds out there. He did not destroy anyone reputation because the user didn't have any in the first place and im pretty sure if he stops doing what he did and talks to hilarious maybe in the future he will get his trust removed just like vod did. |
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