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1601  Other / Meta / Re: theymos is a government agent | do not use this forum it is honeypot on: May 25, 2015, 07:39:59 PM
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There are plenty of big companies that have been hacked in the past, doesnt matter their budget or how big they are, that doesnt prove anything.
Name these "big companies" with websites constantly going offline (for days on end) because their service providers were "social engineered" to hand over root password to their servers.
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As why do they "promote" ponzies wich they not, it was already mentioned plenty of times that is better to have them all in 1 place, i dont agree with it but its what it is.
Having a section dedicated to promotion of ponzis is promoting ponzis, no lie.
And how is it that a forum started to discuss and promote Bitcoin suddenly has not just gambling & warez selling sections, but a section dedicated to ponzis? Which friend of Bitcoin thought this is a good idea?
Wake up, bro!
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The other points you are using are just theories and conspiracies with no real evidence behind them

Feel free to offer more plausible explanations Undecided

I can give you an example, the psn network that was hacked a few years ago, for a LONG time actually affecting tens of millions of people. See, even the biggest companies get hacked, its what it is. Having a section to gather all ponzies on it is not promoting ponzies, search the definition of promoting first.
1602  Other / Meta / Re: theymos is a government agent | do not use this forum it is honeypot on: May 25, 2015, 06:39:18 PM
OP, agree with you 100%. It all makes perfect sense now. Bitcointalk's not just a honeypot, it  continuously does its best to devalue Bitcoin by making bitcoiners appear to be greedy, brainless scumbags to the rest of the world.

inb4 NO!!!11!:

-Why continuous, hilarious security breaches? "MY SERVICE PROVIDER GAVE ANON ROOT"Huh How is it that forums without $1.5 million in the till manage to not have this shit happen, again and again?

-Who but an enemy saboteur would create a special ponzi section on a forum dedicated to discussing and promoting Bitcoin?

-Who but a government plant would encourage buying & selling of bitcointalk user accounts, so that those accounts could, in turn, spam this forum with meaningless drivel at best & more likely scam other bitcoiners?

-Why do you suppose a forum, operated by a US person from US soil, is allowed to continue promoting ponzis & illegal, unregistered "bitcoin securities" (which inevitably turn out to be 100% fraud & run away)?

Think about it.

There are plenty of big companies that have been hacked in the past, doesnt matter their budget or how big they are, that doesnt prove anything. As why do they "promote" ponzies wich they not, it was already mentioned plenty of times that is better to have them all in 1 place, i dont agree with it but its what it is. The other points you are using are just theories and conspiracies with no real evidence behind them
1603  Other / Meta / Re: Influx of Hacked Accounts on: May 25, 2015, 06:34:23 PM
I have a feeling we will be seeing a lot of hacked accounts in the near future (abandoned but high ranked accounts for example). Stay alert guys!

Agreed, also be especially careful trading with people. Even if no one gets hacked, I foresee some people scamming, and then trying to claim they were hacked to waive their liability.

The thing is, how can we actually mitigate that risk? Say someone is trading with me, how can they be sure that a) I'm not hacked and b) the escrow we're using isn't hacked. Especially as the escrows will be the primary targets.

The normal. Signed message via Bitcoin address or PGP.

Some people cant provide that. Lock all accounts untill their passwords are changed? Or maybe lock high rank accounts only until the password is changed, or only allow to unlock those accounts if proof of ownership is provided?
1604  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Best or safest way to store coins? on: May 21, 2015, 06:19:55 PM
It depends on if you want to use them and store them safely or if you only want to store them safely (cold wallet)

If you want to use a trezor is a really good option and easy
If you want to store them a paper wallet is the best option

Well i would like to store them safely but also be able to access them somewhat easily, something that doesnt involve installing a brand new os, i dont have that many bitcoins so i dont need something too complex
1605  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Best or safest way to store coins? on: May 21, 2015, 05:50:43 PM
There is actually so many threads asking about this question, but this one is recommended one
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=17240.0

That was a nice read but i still have some questions, for instance how to exactly install a bitcoin client on a cd? Doesnt it weight like a few gigabytes? And what does he mean with OS? Operating system? So do i have to install another operating system in another computer while offline and then install the bitcoin client on the cd? Its pretty confusing for me
1606  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Best or safest way to store coins? on: May 21, 2015, 04:55:43 PM
Im not really into technical information and knowledge about bitcoins so i need some help, what is the safest way to store your bitcoins? I didnt have much until now so it wasnt really a big problem but now im starting to get worried.

make offline paper wallets send you coin there divided into wallets with no more than 1-2BTC in each....

Done some research on that:

Proper paper wallets are often a very secure way of storing bitcoins, since they are not typically exposed to malware. They can also be easily stored securely in safes and safe deposit boxes. However, it may be more difficult to securely "backup" paper wallets, and due to the current sub-optimal software support, it may be easier to make a mistake that causes loss of bitcoins.

What do they mean by "a mistake can cause loss of bitcoins" as i said im not into technical details about bitcoins so i need you to explain pretty much everything XD
1607  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Best or safest way to store coins? on: May 21, 2015, 04:50:37 PM
Im not really into technical information and knowledge about bitcoins so i need some help, what is the safest way to store your bitcoins? I didnt have much until now so it wasnt really a big problem but now im starting to get worried.
1608  Economy / Gambling / Re: Any quiz bet game? on: May 21, 2015, 03:39:33 PM
Is there any quiz where you can bet and play against other users? It would be cool if someone made one where you both get the same question and you have like 10 seconds to read the question and then the answers appear and you have again 5 seconds to pick one to avoid any google search and such, what do you guys think?

Even with a few seconds people can search for clues it has to be really quick.  I should imagine no sites will every provide larger stakes for quiz games.

Its a 1 vs 1 is not the site that provides anything, is each player, you could make it like 10 seconds to read and answer the question and disable the copy option so you would have to manually type it on google. But not many people would play i guess
1609  Economy / Gambling / Re: Recent dadice.com development on: May 21, 2015, 03:36:13 PM

So basically... they could scam? but they haven't? atm ive been very happy with my dealings at dadice.   Is the problem because they have investors people feel be more transparent? or that every dice site should be transparent about bankroll?

Well any casino could scam at any moment, thats not the thing, the thing is that they said they were in possesion of x amount of money and when asked for proof they refused, what conclusions do you get from that? Take in count they wont lose anything by showing proof.
1610  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: nkocevar defaulted on a loan on: May 21, 2015, 03:34:27 PM
Dude, you sell accounts for a living. You can't get any lower than what you are already doing.

Maybe you should look into getting a real job.

Whats wrong with selling accounts? First of all the forum allows it and honestly what can you do with 1 account even if it is high rank?? Only if you were to sell an account with a lot of trust then yes scammers could use it maliciously but who is going to sell an account with a lot of trust? So then again whats the problem??
1611  Economy / Gambling / Re: Best place to advertise my future gambling site! [Advice] on: May 21, 2015, 03:29:00 PM
  • Quick Withdrawals and Deposists
  • 2FA
  • Betting speeds
  • Faucet
  • Quick Support
  • Provably Fair System (of course)
  • Investment option for players
  • Great and interesting UI

Not just a dice game, but I have in mind to start with a dice game.

What about the odds? The house edge  and the max profit and all that, what have you in mind more exactly for it because you cant open a >2% house edge casino since there are already casinos that offer way smaller house edge. Honestly about the ui i dont really care that much, look at just-dice shitty ui but one of the most famous dice casinos out there
1612  Economy / Gambling / Re: Recent dadice.com development on: May 21, 2015, 03:24:17 PM
Many are talking as if Da Dice is a scam. Find me a single scam accusation, lol. Tongue

How are you even comparing? Tongue


Edit: People are unaware of the facts. There is no withdrawal that did not get honored. Nor are there any complaints regarding loss of funds, or anything related.
This is pure speculation. Da Dice hasn't yet provided a Proof of Solvency. But, that doesn't make it a scam...

A competitor just made random hits, and he got lucky at one..
i totaly agree with you.
i havent see anyone complaining about (lost funds,not recieved withdrawal or anything like that) so that what you are saying is just -.-.
if they dont want to make their bankroll public that is ok.
When AND if someone lost funds or didnt get withdrawal then you can start blaming them of scamming.
untill then i think its best to lock this thread and stop this lame talk.
regards.
-katerniko1

Yeah right what a shitty argument, with that argument all ponzies are not scam because they all pay at first rigth? Their plan was and is to build trust to be able to steal the biggest amount of money (hopefully im wrong) but thats how it looks right now

Proof of solvency can'r prove anything, scammers can also run away with funds after showing the proof, the proof is just shown to everyone, but it is not controlled by 3rd party, can't mean anything either.

The thing is that they said the had x amount of money and now they dont want to prove it, of course just because you prove you have that amount doesnt mean you will scam but not proving it its worse isnt it? They also tried to use really shitty excuses wich makes it look even more suspicious, anyways their trust is already red
1613  Economy / Gambling / Re: DaDice.com - Next Generation Social Gambling Dice Experience on: May 21, 2015, 02:29:51 PM
As far as im concerned new business require new btc talk accounts. and as for the investment side of dadice, NO ONE FORCES ANY ONE TO INVEST. whats wrong with all you haters out there trying to ruin good things with no proof of any scamming or violation to other peoples btc. Because of you whiners who have nothing better to do than troll complete bullshit dadice has been forced to close their investment feature. Who cares about posting cold wallets etc it doesnt mean jack. even other dicesites and casinos can do a runner with every ones money with out warning, it doesnt matter where you invest or play if your willing to invest you have to be willing to lose your investment its as simple as that. with all the money invested in making dadice running with a few hundred btc's wouldnt make sense whats the point in putting all the effort and time into something to get up and run?Huh??

It doesnt mean jack? So if i ask for investments for any purpose and i say i have 300 bitcoins already and someone that wanted to invest comes to me and asks for proof of that money and i tell him i wont show it, how does that make look?
1614  Economy / Gambling / Re: Recent dadice.com development on: May 21, 2015, 02:25:01 PM
Many are talking as if Da Dice is a scam. Find me a single scam accusation, lol. Tongue

How are you even comparing? Tongue


Edit: People are unaware of the facts. There is no withdrawal that did not get honored. Nor are there any complaints regarding loss of funds, or anything related.
This is pure speculation. Da Dice hasn't yet provided a Proof of Solvency. But, that doesn't make it a scam...

A competitor just made random hits, and he got lucky at one..
i totaly agree with you.
i havent see anyone complaining about (lost funds,not recieved withdrawal or anything like that) so that what you are saying is just -.-.
if they dont want to make their bankroll public that is ok.
When AND if someone lost funds or didnt get withdrawal then you can start blaming them of scamming.
untill then i think its best to lock this thread and stop this lame talk.
regards.
-katerniko1

Yeah right what a shitty argument, with that argument all ponzies are not scam because they all pay at first rigth? Their plan was and is to build trust to be able to steal the biggest amount of money (hopefully im wrong) but thats how it looks right now
1615  Economy / Gambling / Re: Are there any chess sites that allow people to bet with Bitcoin? on: May 21, 2015, 06:36:08 AM
don't loose hope because i believe that even though there are bots to cheat the game, humans are still better than bots
look at this, a person who beaten a computer in chess http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_Blue_versus_Garry_Kasparov

IBM supercomputer called Deep Blue
Result: Kasparov–Deep Blue (4–2)

He actually got beaten afterwards playing a game considered his quickest defeat ever and that was long ago, right now no human has any chances against better chess engines, you can play vs a computer yourself, its called computer impossible.

Its a shame that this wont happen but there could be other chess modes to prevent bots, i dont believe there are bots for all the chess different variations
1616  Economy / Gambling / Re: Recent dadice.com development on: May 21, 2015, 05:39:31 AM
From what I can tell, these complaints add up to this:

Someone wants proof about bankroll, dadice decides not to provide proof.

Is there really anything more to it than that?

I can see why they wouldn't feel good about revealing their resources to Stunna (their biggest competitor, right?).

EDIT: I also want to stay away from any drama.  I'm not an investor in the site but at the moment I'm not seeing the sketchy part of this and I'm wondering if competitors of dadice are merely stirring up FUD to hurt their business.  I dunno the facts, but I'm curious about the motivations of the parties involved.

That's pretty much it, except that it is standard practice for sites holding investments to publish proof of solvency. They often don't do it without being asked, but once asked it's weird for them to refuse. DaDice has refused, which makes people think they have something to hide.

They already have "revealed" their resources, they just didn't prove that their revelation is true. That's what people are asking for here.

As for motivations I'm sure there's a certain amount of wanting to damage the competition, as well as "we had to do it so why shouldn't they?", but for the most part I think people want to hold them to the same level of transparency as the other sites offer.


The thing is that, what do they lose by showing it? Nothing right? Wich makes people believe they are lying, even more after they tried to use silly excuses presented by shorena. Honestly if they just said no we dont to show it, it woul have been more credible
1617  Economy / Gambling / Re: Best place to advertise my future gambling site! [Advice] on: May 20, 2015, 09:56:35 AM
Hey hey hey!
I was wondering what the best places are to advertise a fully bitcoin gambling site? Your advice is highly appreciated!

As others have mentioned a few good places to start are the forums, gambling advertisments at faucets, and signature campaigns to attract visitors of course it should be a for a while in that case to establish a good reputation.
A few other ways are promotional events that get people involved like a video contest for your site, faucet for users who bet over a certain amount or some unique game that isn't seen as often on other gambling sites.


Video contest... sounds like a great idea as well. what sort of video contests do you have in mind eternal?

Honestly i dont think thats that good idea, ive seen some video contests and people usually dont participate, in any case you can make sig advertisement contest or avatar contest or a logo contest for your site
1618  Economy / Gambling / Re: Best place to advertise my future gambling site! [Advice] on: May 20, 2015, 06:50:20 AM
Sig campaigns are overrated,  people mostly want them as a source of income and post count boosting. Don't believe the hype Smiley
It is true that people are trying to earn from it. But is that a bad thing to do? After all signatures are serving their purpose and advertisement is visible for everyone on bitcointalk.
I still think that this is the best option to advertise here, Op can also purchase official bitcointalk banners but I think signature campaigns ads are still more noticeable.

The problem is not making money, the issue is all the random posts and spam these campaigns generate. Plus they are getting to the point where people don't care about the business they represent they only care about where the next sig campaign is. Look at every casino thread within the first 3 pages you can see people asking for it, not even trying the site.... This is where it gets to be an issue. These places don't grow and the industry won't improve and flourish if everyone looks at casinos like charities.

As i said previously in this post, if you want people not to post stupid shit you should online "hire" full members or higher for example to avoid new accounts that only want to spam and get paid. Or you can also make that every participant has to be x amount on your site to be eligible like luckybit or whatever their name is do
1619  Other / Meta / Re: delete Investor-based games section on: May 20, 2015, 05:17:14 AM
If you don't state the odds or how a winner is chosen, then you are not clearly stating how it works.
Well shit, isnt that how ponzies work?? Even when they state that you may not be paid or he may just run with your money, he never tells you when or the odds you have of winning or loosing, thats my point exactly..
Not necessarily, there are some ponzi "games" that are upfront that they are a ponzi and clearly state the rules of the game. If the operator is honest and follows the rules of the game, then it is not a scam. The problem is that there is no way to make them provably fair and an honest ponzi game may look identical to a ponzi game where the operator is cheating against the players.

The investor-based games sub-section was created because the gambling section was flooded with these types of games. Without this section, they would just flood the main gambling section again.

At least its all contained to once place in the forum. If it wasn't for this, you forget how people would try to advertise a ponzi or a investor based game like btc-flow and those type of games. Generally gambling comes with a certain risk anyways and if you don't follow the general pro quo, Never gamble more than you can afford to lose, you will probably end up hating yourself in return. I look at it like this. With a casino you have a general base of rules that must be followed and met. With a ponzi, you have those as well, but you have to factor in whether the operator is legit or not. So that's a gamble in itself.

+1

Very well summarized... especially the bold part.

Then again, and i have said this 4 times already, casinos tell you your odss, ponzies dont because there are no odds, you might just deposit 0.02 and if no one deposits 0.02 you lose and thats it end of the game. As someone said, lers make a section for each type of scam since scammers would go there to advertise their scam right?
1620  Other / Meta / Re: delete Investor-based games section on: May 19, 2015, 06:49:39 PM
So if i come here and say im going to launch a lottery, 0.01 each ticket, if you get lucky you might win 1 bitcoin but im not going to tell you the odds and it is not certain if anyone will win. Thats not a scam to you because i stated clearly how it works?
If you don't state the odds or how a winner is chosen, then you are not clearly stating how it works.

Well shit, isnt that how ponzies work?? Even when they state that you may not be paid or he may just run with your money, he never tells you when or the odds you have of winning or loosing, thats my point exactly..
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