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1141  Other / Meta / Re: How to contact tomatocage on: July 21, 2015, 11:49:54 AM
TC will read this thread and if he wishes, he'll reply. I don't mind QS being in the Default Trust list but am saddened by the fact he sells DT accounts which I hope doesn't go in wrong hands. Selling DT accounts is not only risky but unethical.

erm, as far as i know he stopped selling any accounts at all, you can even see it in his other account ACCTseller, his personal message says so. Im sure he will confirm.
1142  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: online sellers on: July 21, 2015, 11:00:42 AM
usually i prefer if they go first, if you have a certain position with good different type of trust(having many trust from the same member is seen as abuse for me) from different member, you can ask for that

it's always worked for me
Not all of the users have good reputation and the counter party is willing to go first!

its not wise to always be willing to go first without escrow; people have scammed on this forum for less than a dollar before, and every time escrow circumvented in the trading process, the temptation of a scam always comes up. its better to think of traders as a ticking time bomb, just look at what happened with maidak.

It's not indeed, it's not wise to use escrow without making the proper preparation and asking for the proper information, first of all asking for a signed message from the escrow is a must to prove he is indeed the original owner and he wasn't hacked. I would never trust anyone, not even the most trusted escrows with more than 0.5 bitcoins, even if they sign a message there is still a super slim chance of them being hacked. So if you are doing a trade with big amounts of money i suggest using different escrows and split it.
1143  Local / Servicios / Re: Problemas con BTC-E alguien más? on: July 21, 2015, 09:02:38 AM
Cual el la url del twiter de btc-e ?
Voy a abrir una cuenta en twiter para ver...

Edito: este es el link del twitter
https://mobile.twitter.com/btcecom/tweets
Pero no entiendo nada ja ja


Edito: Acabo de entrar recién en btc-e y pude retirar bitcoins que necesitaba sin ningún problema.
Saludos

La pagina web esta siendo DDoseada muy a menudo y ellos no pueden hacer mucho para remediarlo, pero normalmente no duran mucho, aun asi deberian intentar hacer algo.
1144  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: 999Dice Bot - Johnson progression on: July 21, 2015, 08:48:37 AM
Why do people never learn. 999dice is a scam site.

Any proof to back that up? I've checked it out and they have had tons of members and tons of withdraws. Seen some large players lose a lot too, I mean thousands worth in usd.

I copying and pasting the code into imacro and I get an error in the first line. Is there a balance requirement?
All that members withdraws and big player loses may be faked, did you talk to these persons yourself? Or did they post on these forums?
I'm not saying it's faked for sure but alot of people say that.

They are not fake, the scam accusation against 999dice wasnt because of withdraw problems, this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=948965.0

Is the scam accusation,  a valid one, by the way. It is very likely that they are cheating.

Anyhow this bot is just as useless as using martingale or any other ''strategy'' STRATEGIES DONT WORK!
1145  Other / Meta / Re: How much is www.bitcointalk.org worth ? on: July 21, 2015, 08:39:54 AM
This reminds me of the time someone offered to buy it...for 10k. LOL.

PLOT TWIST, 10K... BITCOINS.

Pd: that would be almost 3 million the current prices.
1146  Other / Meta / Re: How to contact tomatocage on: July 21, 2015, 07:44:20 AM
Dude, qs trust rating is perfectly fine to me, i checked the reference link and you can see that even the most reputated members and high rank members on this forum actually agree with tradefortress on the issue that it was being discussed there, you cheated, you didnt follow the rules meaning that you were cheating/scamming. Theres not much more to it.
1147  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Litecoin is officially dead on: July 21, 2015, 07:24:53 AM
Maybe you should open an account on https://litecointalk.org and post your question on that forum?
I'm not that interested in Litecoin and LitecoinTalk. I actually asked TheMage the same thing couple of days ago, as you can see in the announce subforum.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=47417.msg11890695#msg11890695

The lack of response and interest is deafening.


coblee, litecoin founder its pretty active on reddit check this post out: https://www.reddit.com/r/litecoin/comments/1o3fdz/we_are_the_litecoin_dev_team_ama/

You can ask your questions there, he will definitely respond to them, you can see his last post was like 6 hours ago
1148  Economy / Speculation / Re: Woooooo!!!! 308$ atm!!! on: July 21, 2015, 07:21:40 AM

I think it will reach again back to the days when bitcoin price was 200$.
Current price is dropping fast: $275

It won't reach $200 but will stop at $250 for 2-3 weeks. It's not crashing but don't know what's the reason of this drastic fall. I dint find a single website which explains the reason why bitcoin prices rise and fall.

Well i am curious too what is that that makes bitcoin price rise and fall. I just speculated that so it can happen maybe

Bitcoin market cap is small enough that whales can easily swing the prices up and down like yo-yo. They just need good excuses like Greece and China. They play on your fears and reap profit. Don't believe anyone who say that natural market forces are at work. If the natural market forces are responsible for the natural waves in bitcoin prices, how do you account for the past 18-months slide in spite of many good news and mainstream adoption? Whales love shorting bitcoins. It's a natural fit for them. For you, the small shrimps, you're nothing but food for them.

Of course whales can play with the price because the marketcap is tiny, the point is, if you aren't buying BTC this cheap you are insane in the membrane, insane in the brain. If you are here for the long term, then who fucking cares if you buy at 50, 100 or 300. If you are here for 10+ years as you should if you aren't a huge idiot, you'll see your massive gains and your hard work paying off at the end. Only a clueless moron that doesn't understand what Bitcoin means to the world would argue otherwise

Uh 10+ years without trading and just holding would be ridiculously stupid, take a look when the bitcoin price was 1200, you would be stupid not to sell then and it went from 1200 to 200 in basically a year, who knows what would happen in 10 years. Bitcoin is not even sustained by anything to ensure it will still be alive after such long time

it's very easy to talk after the thing happened, but you would have really sold, at that peak(1200)? i doubt it, many would have thought that the price was still rising above that amount, only internal manipulators would have sold there because they know about the top


Only if a billionaire invest so much money in bitcoin maybe he can change the price of it up to 1200$ as you say, but i really doubt it.
It is unreachable for me at least for this year.

Even if you are a billionaire you would still have to invest a lot of time to be able to make the price up to 1200$, probably not possible at the moment.

As for amph question, no i wouldnt sell and i didnt sell when it was at 1200 but i did sell some coins when it went down to 1000~ because it went down fast and everyone knew it would explode sooner or later.
1149  Economy / Gambling / Re: 124 Bitcoin jackpot in Dragon's Tale on: July 20, 2015, 04:59:59 PM
I have heard of this ''game'' is there any max profit to it or you can just bet as much as you want and they would pay as much as they can? Im guessing that on a 41:1 game you cant bet more than 5 bitcoins or something long those lines, right?

There's a maximum jackpot amount that varies as people play. Right now, Dragon's Tale can pay jackpots of up to ~600 BTC, and the game will only accept bets that have a theoretical max jackpot of whatever this number is. That could be a bet for 6 BTC that pays up to 100:1, or a bet for 100 Bitcoins that pays up to 6:1.



Woo thats insane, what kind of games are there, only slots and slot type of games or are there any other type of games, maybe some non gambling games as well?
1150  Other / Meta / Re: Spams and Scams on: July 20, 2015, 09:57:26 AM
/cut/
Scams shouldn't be removed at all, there's too much room for abuse and mistakes.

well, I'm sure that hundreds or maybe even thousands of guys, which clicked on forum promoted advertisements like banners from BFL and order something (me included before couple of years) can't agree now..

sorry, but tell me one bloody example, when majority of board pointed some company as scam and it became a legitimate, trustworthy and working bitcoin business...and I can tell you dozens of examples, when threads were reported, there were scam accusations against company, endless count of evidence inside and mods don't even bother delete threads or accounts (blackarrow, cloudthink, cointerra, hashfast, BFL..bla bla bla)

you may say, that it is own responsibility of each person here, but generally, it is against bitcoin adoption and is hard to image consequences..

How about DaDice? I personally think they are a scam about to happen, some agree some dont. Can you decide who is correct? What if you are wrong? To what extent can we rely on the mods? Would they refund me if they falsely failed to remove a scam?

-snip-
Plain as the nose on your face and has been addressed here multiple times, no reason to keep dragging it up.

Welcome back. I wonder though when you will come up with more fitting metaphors. Lets ban baseball bats.

Yeah but with dadice its not the same although they have already a lot of red trust, the proofs against them are not definitive, it just made them look suspicious, they havent scammed yet and maybe they wont but there never was strong evidence of them being scammers just suspicious behavior.

Its pretty much like cloudthink where they have been revealing a really suspicious behavior and attitude but its not 100% certain that they are a scam or 999dice which has a provably fair system that can be cheated by the house but impossible to prove they are doing it.

I still cant think of an example that xialla is asking for tho.
1151  Economy / Gambling / Re: dice.playcoinflip.com -->> Free BTC every 120s on: July 20, 2015, 09:48:47 AM
Site is slow, faucet not working.
Look is good, or I may say carbon copy of Primedice, let's hope this one doesn't get away with users' funds like some sites did in past.

its not a copy of primedice, the site is using the coindice script, which is riddled with various problems all across the code. i doubt people aware of that will even bother to test out the site.

I mean even if it didnt have any problems or bugs i doubt people would use it anyways, i mean what's the point of creating new dice sites now when there are already plenty trusted dice sites that offer the exact same thing and is not like you can offer or make many new features in a dice site anyways.

You're so wrong, you just don't know that there are currently thousands (maybe more) dice players standing in que because all the other dice sites stopped accepting players because they reached their maximum numbers of players allowed.

Thank you OP for making another Dice site, I mean there was such a shortage of these and players were running left and right thinking where can they play some dice and there weren't any places left and it was chaos everywhere as every other dice sites were jam packed and.. you saved them.

But DO REMEMBER this has just filled the quota temporarily, so my advice to other Devs, don't stop making more dice sites because there is a serious demand for these and your help is greatly needed. Thx   Roll Eyes

Im kind of confused and i cant tell if this is sarcasm or not, i hope it is. If it's not, all sites accept players, there is no maximum, dice sites are just there to rip you off and basically steal your money, there is no fun to it unless you are winning and you are going to lose eventually so what is the point?

1152  Economy / Gambling / Re: dice.playcoinflip.com -->> Free BTC every 120s on: July 20, 2015, 09:07:31 AM
Site is slow, faucet not working.
Look is good, or I may say carbon copy of Primedice, let's hope this one doesn't get away with users' funds like some sites did in past.

its not a copy of primedice, the site is using the coindice script, which is riddled with various problems all across the code. i doubt people aware of that will even bother to test out the site.

I mean even if it didnt have any problems or bugs i doubt people would use it anyways, i mean what's the point of creating new dice sites now when there are already plenty trusted dice sites that offer the exact same thing and is not like you can offer or make many new features in a dice site anyways.
1153  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Litecoin is officially dead on: July 20, 2015, 09:02:19 AM
The only thing dogecoin had going for it, was literally, a doggy on the coin...

=squeak=


And 50% of altcoins, probably more, are basically a re-skin of other altcoins or bitcoin, we all know the crypto community is not very serious in this aspect and i dont know if its a good thing or not, in the short term probably not, for people that want to get profit, in the long term probably not very good for the whole community.
1154  Economy / Gambling / Re: 124 Bitcoin jackpot in Dragon's Tale on: July 20, 2015, 08:07:15 AM
I have heard of this ''game'' is there any max profit to it or you can just bet as much as you want and they would pay as much as they can? Im guessing that on a 41:1 game you cant bet more than 5 bitcoins or something long those lines, right?
1155  Economy / Speculation / Re: Crashing! Is this the beginning of the end for bitcoins? on: July 20, 2015, 08:02:37 AM
I agree,  Any *serious financial investor would surely know better than to take any notice of a bunch of anonymous faces talking smack in some internet forum.

Which leaves the only motivation for people arguing about the price to be either butthurt want-to-buy-back-in'ers who believe talking crap will help keep the price down, emotionally wounded criers that cant stand something they thought wouldnt work actually doing so, or bored trolls looking to stir up arguments for their own entertainment.

Personally, I occasionally derive some enjoyment and education from reading peoples opinions on how world events might affect the uptake of a new type of money, IF they have supporting evidence or rational logic behind it that they can explain clearly.   

Cracked record noisemakers spouting repeated BS annoy me, but only occasionally to the point that I could be bothered smacking one of them Smiley

You should check btc-e chat to see the real terror, people always talking shit there, litecoin price going down, buy buy, sell sell and other typical quotes from the trollbox, of course nothing of that matters. There was someone who sold bitcoins for 150$ on btc-e which made the price crash there from 275~ to 250~ and then going up again.
1156  Other / Meta / Re: Suggestion for the trust settings on: July 20, 2015, 07:39:16 AM
Well i might agree with you but are you sure people got scammed because they didnt read the untrusted feedback? How do you get scammed exactly, pretty much all scammers are marked as red by a default trust member anyways

This is exactly the kind of bullshit that gets noobs scammed, telling them that users filter out scammers here effectively. This is one of the main reasons I am against scam busting, it only gives noobs a false sense of security and just delays scammers at best.

Im saying that all proven scammers are marked with red, whats your point? If you dont want to get scammed just use escrow, it doesnt get any easier than that. I dont see how that would get a noob scammed, im pretty sure noobs dont trust other users because they are not red marked, they peobably will trust a user with some green trust

 As far as them being "proven scammers", proof based on what, the fact that some trust vigilante marked them red on a guess?  I know what you are TRYING to say, what you are ignoring is that it gives noobs a false sense of security. Also no one builds trust using escrow, people building a reputation inherently have incentive to trust or get others to trust them. Of course noobs magically just know all these rules to not get ripped off via osmosis do they? Noobs trust other users when people like you go around saying things like "pretty much all scammers are marked as red by a default trust member anyways".

Im talking about proven scammers on scam accusations, scammers that scammed money already they are always and i mean ALWAYS marked as red, there is even a thread made by tomatocage with all the scam sites, proven scam sites, based on evidence. It shouldnt really give noobs a false sense of security, nothing its 100% secure. You are saying that because proven scammers are marked as red noobs would think anyone else who is not on red is trusted, i dont think thats the case.
1157  Economy / Gambling / Re: How much more would you gamble if you found a provably fair EV+ casino? on: July 20, 2015, 07:36:56 AM
Depends on a lot of things specially how much +EV it is. Obviously since its +EV means you will win more than the house, so flat betting a lot based on your bankroll will likely be the best way to go . I would flat bet 0.001 BTC if I had a bankroll of 1 BTC continously .

Well the best way to go would be to use the kelly system but i really dont understand the point of this thread and im pretty sure it should go to off-topic and not the gamble section since its a pretty stupid post.

Ahh, I just read about it, sorry for my lack of knowledge.
I was attempting to figure out whether dice sites having EV- actually makes much of a difference to the average player, and whether the average player would change their betting strategy and quantity with EV+
It depends on the way gamblers would play . Even if the house edge was 0 , and if people used martingale then even then it is very possible for them to bust and lose their money. Majority of the gamlers use the same strategy so it definitely is likely the house would still profit. For no house edge I dont think strategy would change much , but if its negative house edge or +EV for gamblers, then the gambler would likely flat bet and cause the house to lose.

Have you not read anything in this thread? I already told you guys that the best strategy for a +EV casino would be to use the kelly system not flat betting, of course the casino would still lose in the long term no matter what strategy is being used but its better to use kelly
1158  Economy / Gambling / Re: How much more would you gamble if you found a provably fair EV+ casino? on: July 19, 2015, 05:35:12 PM
Depends on a lot of things specially how much +EV it is. Obviously since its +EV means you will win more than the house, so flat betting a lot based on your bankroll will likely be the best way to go . I would flat bet 0.001 BTC if I had a bankroll of 1 BTC continously .

Well the best way to go would be to use the kelly system but i really dont understand the point of this thread and im pretty sure it should go to off-topic and not the gamble section since its a pretty stupid post.

Ahh, I just read about it, sorry for my lack of knowledge.
I was attempting to figure out whether dice sites having EV- actually makes much of a difference to the average player, and whether the average player would change their betting strategy and quantity with EV+

Basically using the kelly formula would be using the optimal strategy but in the end the casino would lose even if the players dont use it and just bet with any other "strategy" its pretty much what happens with -EV casinos, they always win in the end no matter what players do
1159  Other / Meta / Re: Suggestion for the trust settings on: July 19, 2015, 05:32:22 PM
Well i might agree with you but are you sure people got scammed because they didnt read the untrusted feedback? How do you get scammed exactly, pretty much all scammers are marked as red by a default trust member anyways

This is exactly the kind of bullshit that gets noobs scammed, telling them that users filter out scammers here effectively. This is one of the main reasons I am against scam busting, it only gives noobs a false sense of security and just delays scammers at best.

Im saying that all proven scammers are marked with red, whats your point? If you dont want to get scammed just use escrow, it doesnt get any easier than that. I dont see how that would get a noob scammed, im pretty sure noobs dont trust other users because they are not red marked, they peobably will trust a user with some green trust
1160  Economy / Gambling / Re: How much more would you gamble if you found a provably fair EV+ casino? on: July 19, 2015, 03:54:16 PM
Depends on a lot of things specially how much +EV it is. Obviously since its +EV means you will win more than the house, so flat betting a lot based on your bankroll will likely be the best way to go . I would flat bet 0.001 BTC if I had a bankroll of 1 BTC continously .

Well the best way to go would be to use the kelly system but i really dont understand the point of this thread and im pretty sure it should go to off-topic and not the gamble section since its a pretty stupid post.
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