my 1.0.0 firmware 5 ghs jally had the security bit set..
Not sure why they do that, seeing the release the source publicly anyway. Great work. Lets hope too many people don't brick there Jally's  |
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Because Bitcoin isn't classified as Legal Tender, the way I treat it is more like goods and services.
No, this does not fly at all. The status of legal tender here is irrelevant. Legal tender is simply the currency which is designated as lawfully acceptable for all debts, public and private. So the US government must accept US dollars for taxes, court judgments, duties. A lender in the US must accept US dollars if offered by a debtor to repay a debt. The euro is not legal tender in the US, so is not acceptable for repaying any public debts, and is only acceptable for private debts at the discretion of the lender. The euro is however a cash equivalent, like all foreign currencies. A money transmitter is dealing in cash equivalents, and the FinCen guidance now includes decentralized virtual currencies as a cash equivalent. A cash equivalent is not a good or service. However, it seems the BF can successfully argue that they are not money transmitting. Where is their definition of "cash equivalent"? Most cash equivalents I know of are things like stocks and bonds not virtual items. |
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Hm... I just realised something. Look at board pictures publish hire. And look at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vw7kVfJ5X5YDo you see a difference? Anyone has a single? I think that this chip that is missing here is for a 50gh single to connect 2 boards. If you look at the plans you will see chain out chain in connected to that... And I really think that this is a longboard. 2 normal boards connected... If anyone has a idea how to get program off that chip we can make a longboard.... Why would you bother? |
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The backend API is down as well, it's giving maintenance error messages.
Nothing on Twitter, there was no news announcement of maintenance, it's been over 6 hours, I hope they are ok.
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Because Bitcoin isn't classified as Legal Tender, the way I treat it is more like goods and services.
In other words you buy Bitcoin from someone and sell Bitcoins to someone else, not necessarily at the same price.
An analogy.
Say I want to pay someone far away $100, but I don't want to post $100 note, as long as the recipient agrees, I can do something like purchase a stick of RAM worth $100 send it to the person I want to pay, and it's up to him to sell the stick of RAM locally, he might get $95 or $105 for it providing he can find a buyer. Now a stick of RAM is not Legal Tender either, I can't pay my taxes with it, if the government were to legislate that it was Legal Tender that would be a different story.
I see Bitcoins as no different except they are virtual goods like a piece of software, or game code, that people by and sell via the Internet all the time.
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Oh ... I was hoping that would be a good test before actually flashing it ... though I've not got that far yet ... I have (which I finally found today) an Xilinx Platform Cable USB with 4 cables and an adapter board to match the 3 extra cables provided by ngzhang - it was called the icarus dev kit back when I bought it last year - but I've never used it. I'm in the process of slowly downloading the free version of the Xilinx ISE - anyone know in advance if that will work? Edit: OK after reading up much more about all this ... it seems the answer is probably no. It also seems that the AVR32 chips are rarely supported by the random no-name Amtel JTAG programmers you can find on ebay. Fortunately, google found me a shop 35km away that has 44 in stock $63 ... OK time to go visit them tomorrow. Aside: I found the pictures provided by others a little hard to read clearly ... so I took one of my Jala mining  (click if you want it 4x that size) Anyone is Aus wanting to know where they can find an AVR Dragon - this is the place I'll be visiting tomorrow ... after I call them and verify it is the right device. http://au.element14.com/atmel/atavrdragon/in-system-debugger-programmer-avr/dp/145508801 Element14 are huge, they are the one of the international Raspberry Pi distributor networks, so you should be able to find them all over the planet, they are part of the Farnell group of electronic distributors http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Premier_FarnellThe Premier Farnell group trades globally under the following company names: Farnell in the UK and Europe element14 in Australia, New Zealand, Hong Kong, India, Malaysia, China and Singapore Newark Electronics in the US, Canada and Mexico MCM Electronics in the US Farnell-Newark in Brazil Combined Precision Components (CPC) in the UK Akron Brass, North America TPC Wire and Cable, North America |
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after 7 hours its average is 8285.56 ghs, 81 hardware errors.
That's not too bad for HW errors, out of interest sake, have you tried reducing the speed slightly to see if the error rate changes substantially? Thinking that you might be on the threshold. speed?? NEVER!! heh 9.5 hours, 16241 accepted @ difficultly 4, 102 hardware errors = 0.0016 % errors. thats OK in my book as others with stock jallys have had way more that that. It's actually (102/16,241)*100= 0.628% errors, one of the cgmnier devs suggested that 1% HW errors are ok for that kind of ASIC setup. |
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I've been reading through this thread and I think vapourminer mentioned that there's no cable included with purchase of the Atmel Dragon. He mentioned cutting down a 40 pin IDE cable but I don't even have such a common thing lying around.
nope no cable included. I did use a 40 conductor IDE cable cut down to 10 (2x5). the cable you linked to should be fine. any 2x5 cable with 0.1 inch pin spacing will work. after 7 hours its average is 8285.56 ghs, 81 hardware errors. That's not too bad for HW errors, out of interest sake, have you tried reducing the speed slightly to see if the error rate changes substantially? Thinking that you might be on the threshold. |
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What sort of JTAG programmer are you going to plug that into? I was thinking about Atmel AVR Dragon. I would have thought the dragon would come with a cable? |
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What sort of JTAG programmer are you going to plug that into? |
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4.71w/G. So the chips are made of 110nm?
4.71W/GH/s is not what the chips consume. Think about the error in your calculation. For starters a 110nm Avalon at 66GH/s consumes over 600watts, the BFL is less than half that. |
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Overall, I don't see why people are surprised that putting heavy "regulations" like the ASIC requirement is slowing down the market. Putting high barriers of entry slow down any market, it's the intended effect. Litecoin is simply a clone of Bitcoin with less "regulations" on its market. Since a lot of people around here like it when there is less regulations and barriers, Litecoin is like a breath of fresh air and it adds to the hype.
And who exactly is doing this "regulation" of the market? |
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Do you need to use a Dragon or will other Atmel programmers suffice?
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278watts per unit is good for that hash rate, considering that some of it will be the PSU and several fans.
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And you have the 51% security issues with BTC vs. LTC. Go look at the BTC blockchain. Its been so close to being forked and 51%'ed recently, its insane. Bitcoin purists don't want to admit it, but hitting 6 blocks in a row for a medium-sized ASIC company would be much, MUCH easier than doing the same on Litecoin.
Exactly the same 51% attack issue exists in LTC, the main difference is you have less time between confirms to pull it off. Both coins will probably get hit by it one day as large pools start to centralize the hashing power. If everyone solo mined it wouldn't be an issue, but most people point at a stratum proxy which is very simple to redirect to wherever you want, redirecting the entire pool's hasting power in an instant. |
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The BTC 10min block time is terrible.
Why is having a low block orphan rate terrible? Strawman question. LTC has an incredibly low orphan and stale rate. Basically every coin with a block rate over 45sec has a low stale rate. |
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Litecoin is different from bitcoin in following ways, however none of them is particularly useful and on the contrary are only less worthy.
84 million vs 21 millions: since bitcoin is divisible upto atleast 9 decimals and also micro BTC can be used for dealing with low amounts
faster blocks 2.5 minutes vs 10 minutes average: 6 confirmations of bitcoin are not equivalent of 6 confirmations of litecoin, so litecoin payments are usually confirmed after many more confirmations. It also wastes mining power because in litecoin, most of the time miners may start work with non-best blocks.
scrypt vs sha-256: since scrypt can be relatively efficiently run on CPU/GPU which means botnets can easily control a lot of hashing power. Also, scrypt is relatively less analyzed and used than sha-256, so it may not be more secure tha sha-256.
Technically, bitcoin does what litecoin in an equal or better way. Also, bitcoin testnet can be used to experiment with new features.
Why do we need litecoin that actually has monetary value?(around 2.7USD per LTC now) Is it just promoted by a group of people who missed the bitcoin get-rich boat?
Bitcoin is novel concept and early adopters rightly earn their rewards for the risk they have taken.
Each one of those features differences you mention is significant, you just don't get it that's all. The botnet point is wrong, it takes a lot of GPU tuning to mine scrypt, CPUs are useless, it's much easier to mine Bitcoin with a botnet. The BTC 10min block time is terrible. |
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Why not mine with the things when they turn up?
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The bit I don't understand about "money transmission without a license" is are they talking about the transferring of BTC between one place or another, or are they taking about BF accepting USD converting it to BTC sending the BTC somewhere then the destination converts it back to USD?
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Is the foundation going to make any announcement about this matter to its members?
It's all over the news already so it hardly needs announcing, it probably needs an official response not an announcement, and I would assume the response would be after first taking legal advice. |
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