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1921  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Cash Back some BTC on: February 22, 2020, 10:00:48 AM
The Wirex debit card gives you satoshis back on what you spend through their card. I'm sure it doesn't equate to what you pay them in fees but it might add up if you keep using it.

I'm surprised the bigger and better known cashback sites haven't looked into paying out into crypto yet. Since it's free money there might be some pretty good uptake.
1922  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [20-02-2020] Attorney General Says Banks Can’t Refuse Services To Crypto Firms on: February 22, 2020, 01:23:12 AM
So you reckon an entire nation should be denied this service because a few of its inhabitants might use it for nefarious ends? That's daffy. The same goes for every single country on the entire planet. There are no shortage of terrorists elsewhere and some of them are even WHITE.



1923  Economy / Speculation / Re: Analysis on: February 22, 2020, 01:00:20 AM
Nah he is right, every halvening is less important then the previous.   Any greater movement will come in the year or two after the block reward is halved and thats happened in the past.    The rise before the event is anticipation but the actual effect of the block reward falling is in action only afterwards and increases over time by reducing supply of new BTC but the alteration we make in 2020 is far less then previous changes , its a diminishing effect.

I agree with the principle but I think this one will be the biggest of all and it'll start to roll gently downhill in impact from the next one in 2024 onwards.

It's happening just as more building blocks are falling into place, it's being taken seriously by more people than ever and in a way it hasn't up until recent times and the inflation rate will be lower than the average fiat currency just as it steps up into a new phase of legitimacy.

At the same time it's going to properly dawn on people that there really aren't that many fresh ones left to arrive. That was a factor barely worth considering with both previous halvings. There were still millions of coins to come. Now it's just over 10% for the rest of eternity.

That's a variety of factors aligning around this one that are unique and will never be repeated.

Guess we'll see soon enough.


Expectations over the halving are too high. They remind me of futures and BAKKT hypes.

Anyone who equates a major shift in the fundamentals of the whole thing with a couple of bits of tinsel in one jurisdiction isn't thinking hard enough.
1924  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Talk About Getting Screwed.. #Mt.GoxStrikesAgain on: February 22, 2020, 12:42:12 AM
Well, $1,293 is definitely much better than $755, the offer made "just before Christmas." But that's really one hell of a greedy offer considering that Bitcoin is playing around $10,000 right now. However, taken into consideration the seemingly endless and uncertain legal battle that the creditors will have to wait, others might consider grabbing this unfair offer.

The offer is based what they can expect to get back from Gox. It's nothing to do with the current Bitcoin price. The article says the offer is 88% of the value that should be returned to them.

This is the formula for how the claim has been calculated - '$440 per coin plus $0 damages (damages only apply to fiat, not BTC) plus 18% of your bitcoins plus the same number of bitcoin cash (dollar numbers in USD).'

https://www.ozcoin.com.au/index.php

It might have changed since then. Dunno.

I'm not sure what I'd do in this case. I'd be tempted to take the dollars from Fortress and put them into BTC as the chances are high the whole thing might drag on for a few more years yet, but I might also be totally sick of the thought of it too.

One of the people involved in putting a claim group together took a $600 offer from a buyer and quit.
1925  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: 0.28 bitcoin to be in the 1% of richest bitcoin holder on: February 21, 2020, 06:46:09 PM
1% when applied to the world is kind of a meaningless figure. The salary you would need to be in the world's top 1% is about $32,000. That's fine. I'll bet people who earn that in first world country don't feel like the top 1% but they should.
1926  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Tradesatoshi is closing down. on: February 21, 2020, 04:57:38 PM
Just over one week's notice for an announcement this momentous and on top of that from now on any deposits won't be 'processed' which I guess means keeping anything that arrives from now until then and of course forever after. How many people are that up on crypto news? Plenty won't be.

Such little notice and that will add up to a nice extra dollop of rape for their customers.
1927  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 21, 2020, 04:46:21 PM
Controversial opinion -

And those with the best genes should be forced into breeding centres.

With my sky high IQ, man about town suaveness, hairy back, wet nose and glossy coat I should really do the decent thing and start popping them out, but I'm too cognisant of the total pointlessness and drudgery of it.

To get me to do my duty I'll want a hefty salary, a medal of honor and the right to disappear.

1928  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 21, 2020, 04:25:56 PM
We need models too.

Man, my true calling has been under my nose the whole time.

1929  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 21, 2020, 04:21:14 PM
Can you get stock elsewhere?

I enjoy a bit of sewing, me.
1930  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: PAPER WALLET: FISHING VICTIM (sic)..... on: February 21, 2020, 04:13:12 PM
Since 6000 BTC was between 12-30,000 Euros ish at that time I see no reason why he linked it to growing pot. He should've said it was from dealing cars or chopping wood. It's just as easy or impossible to prove and just as believable.

And when technology is good enough to reclaim them I think it's safe to assume that some quantumkiddie will be in there long before the Gardai figure it out. That's of course if this story is true which I'm certain it is.

1931  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: SCAM: Bitcoin SV (BSV) - fake team member and plagiarized white paper on: February 21, 2020, 04:06:37 PM
who wants their medical (or any personal) data on a public blockchain forever? even if encrypted. as sooner or later that encryption will most likely be broken and now the world has your medical (or whatever) info.

I like the idea of Craigy touching himself to my Herpes diagnosis.

Considering the amount of forks and balls ups they seem to be having I would've thought leaving your details on a New York subway seat would be a more secure and dependable option.

At least all that weather data is relatively harmless.
1932  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 21, 2020, 03:58:08 PM
USA looks like a bargain compared to  the others. The only dealbreaker is, you get taxed twice if your income is outside of the US. I don't know if there are other countries doing this.

Don't forget many a place has state income taxes and the property taxes can be mind blowing. It might be tens of thousands of dollars per year for a fancy house that would be zero or a $1-3000 in other countries.

By the time you equal everything out there's probably not a vast amount in it between most developed places, apart from Scandinavia of course.
1933  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: US DOJ Calls Bitcoin Mixing ‘a Crime’ in Arrest of Software Developer on: February 21, 2020, 01:49:35 PM
How you guys getting this?

To me it's clear this declaration is about this one particular case.

I'm sure centralised mixers will eventually have more pressure put on them, but this guy created his system only for the purpose of hiding illegal earnings and nothing else. It would be the same if he had founded a bank to do that one job.

It might mean in future they will regard any mixer that handles problematic funds to be enabling crime and so they'll be fully liable. They probably do already. This guy made it easy to stop.
1934  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Banks are killing us! Fund a pilot project (no ICO) completely in BTC??? on: February 21, 2020, 01:44:46 PM
If I fund it myself, I will be limited on expansion and even if it works, I have to "prove" it to any outside investors. On the other hand, if I had a 100 users x €100 on a single unit, they would have proof it works and could expand quickly.

If I had the possibility of a limited self funded proof of concept versus having to slog around getting the money together for a biggie from the off I'd do the self funded one. Any form of track record no matter how modest is vastly more compelling than a proposal still marooned on a scrap of paper. But that's just me.
1935  Economy / Economics / Re: Are crypto hedge funds still a good business? on: February 21, 2020, 01:19:05 PM
I recall them being heavily invested in EOS, which will probably pay off big on the next quarterly report.

If I saw my hedge fund was balls deep in that I'd be running for the hills. No doubt it'll pump like every piece of junk but its sheer incompetence makes me wonder about an institutional buyer's competence too.

All this stuff is still in the shit thrown at the wall phase. If I were entrusting my money to a professional I'd expect some diligence somewhere along the line.
1936  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Mainstream businesses/stores which accept Lightning Network payments? on: February 21, 2020, 11:36:06 AM
Beyond true, there's literally no incentive for merchants to hop onto the crypto wave.

There's loads of incentive for them, you get your money in an hour rather than weeks or months, but there's no practical way they can translate that into an incentive for customers.


To capitalize on Bitcoin users and hodlers willing to part with a small fraction of their wealth just because it has increased so much in value, without having to go through an extra step of selling coins at an exchange.

I think this is a valid enough reason but we've seen time and again that merchants can't be bothered to keep the possibility open. There is never enough uptake. What's needed is a fire and forget option that doesn't matter whether it draws much custom to start with. I don't know how onerous it is to accept it but it must be a relative hassle for it to keep happening.
1937  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Visa approves Coinbase as Principal Member - big step for mass adoption? on: February 21, 2020, 01:54:46 AM
Though there is a risk that they will choose to stay with them indefinitely.

That would no doubt be the vast preference of governments. If Coinbase became even more of a one stop shop than it already is that certainly makes their lives a whole lot easier in terms of tax and surveillance.

Maybe some day the only thing merchants will be allowed or willing to accept is Coinbase BTC credits and they'll probably love the idea. It's a combo of endorsement, clearing house, vault and hand holding for something they'll be forever a bit wary of.
1938  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Okay. Charge tax on bitcoin. Is this fair policy? on: February 21, 2020, 12:45:18 AM
I don't even know where the whole idea of Bitcoin being untaxable came from since its isn't in the first place.

'Because it's on the internet'.

For most people here I'll guess this is the first taxable thing they've ever come across outside their wages and the first time they've been responsible for reporting any tax themselves. Couple that with it coming up out of nowhere and I can understand why it's surprising to some but that doesn't exonerate you from the fooking massive bill you may run up. Wilful ignorance is not a convincing defence.
1939  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Mainstream businesses/stores which accept Lightning Network payments? on: February 21, 2020, 12:28:33 AM
With all that's coming, I believe that Bitcoin will become much more attractive to merchants/businesses than any other cryptocurrency known to date. Just my thoughts Grin

But it's just the same as Bitcoin itself. It's great for merchants and always has been. There's still zero incentive for the customer unless they're already into crytpo. Maybe LNs will come up with some truly unique uses but as it stands it's a curio inside a curio to the average personage.
1940  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin's transaction fee lowered by 4000% on: February 20, 2020, 05:27:20 PM
5. We have Satoshi. Craig Wrigth. Nuff said.

You lucky, lucky, lucky thing so you are. O the envy I feel.


So all of that means that segwit had nothing to do with lower fees?

Of course it does. It allows more transactions in every block. That reduces fee pressure. It doesn't eliminate it but there's that much more headroom than there was before.

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