It's not about no government.

I see it as a blank slate with which you can create something great.

Imagine every country's government as a painting. The country has chosen one painting as their national painting and it is that nation's painting. Maybe every couple of years they may add a tiny change or tweak a color, maybe a tiny dog in the painting did not have any eyes drawn originally and after years of discussion they decide to draw one white eye after much debate, though the painting essentially stays the same. This goes on for centuries with just a tweak here and there. They even decide that their style of painting is the best and that any other country choosing a different style is bad and they go to war over these differences.

Meanwhile, artists all over the world look at these paintings and believe that there could be something better...the centuries old paintings are dull and boring. Warhol comes along, Picasso shows up...Dali wants to change things a bit. But they can't create anything new because there are no blank canvasses in the world. They might have great ideas but there is no place for them to express them. And the world doesn't get to enjoy their paintings.

But then seasteading comes along and says...here are many blank canvasses. Try out some new paintings. Some will be shit because we haven't had any new paintings in hundreds of years. Some will copy the old paintings with some minor changes that other countries had already discussed. But some will be the Picassos, the Warhols, the Dalis...new and interesting. Unlike anything that has come before. Nothing that was allowed to come before. Hell, while old countries will be looking at paintings, we could be watching movies in full surround sound or in a VR world. Leaving them all behind to their legacy systems. Much like what we are doing with Bitcoin as money.

For the final seasteads (out in international waters) you would likely move to a seastead because of the laws (or lack thereof).

I suppose it will be like if you were go to Amsterdam right now. How do you know the drug and prostitution laws there? They're so different from the rest of the world. You just google it. There's probably a page for tourists for the basic stuff, then the actual full text of the laws on another website.

I have lived all over the world. Before you get to a new country or soon after you arrive you do a bit of research on things you should know in your new country.

As for how those laws are decided or implemented? I am hoping that it will be mainly blockchain based (for most of the cities...some may want to be old school, who knows) voting systems with public ledgers and verifiable proofs.

The company was founded in January of 2017 and have been going strong ever since. A lot of work with the French Polynesian government, they have a partnership with a company out of the Netherlands that builds floating structures (Blue21). There are many partners being worked on with several big name advisers such as Ethereum's Daniel Nagy, Lara Stein (founder of TEDx), Gaspard Koenig (runs the premier libertarian think tank in France who advised the head of the IMF in France who just recently endorsed blockchain technology).

The nice thing about this is that Blue Frontiers has first mover advantage. No competitors. The Seasteading Institute, which was founded by Patri Friedman and funded initially by Peter Thiel, has been around since 2008 but they merely promote the idea of seasteading and do research. They're non-profit so they can't actually build anything.

There will be an alt coin thread dedicated specifically to the token, Varyon.

This one is for discussion of seasteading in general and the current project under way to make seasteading happen.

It is Bitcoin and blockchain related in that most of the economy and governance will be blockchain based and Bitcoin will certainly be popular at most of the businesses along with basically any currency anyone wants to accept.

I could see eventually some sort of basket of the most stable currencies being used, or some combination with metals. But that is the whole point of competing seasteads. They can figure out what is best.

I'll leave the alt coin thread for the actual company, Blue Frontiers. I do not represent or speak for Blue Frontiers, I just support the project.

The first seasteads will be in French Polynesia under French Polynesian criminal laws and military protection.

I've also moved to Tahiti to see this project through so if I can do anything about it, this project will happen 

Seasteading is the concept of creating permanent dwellings at sea, called seasteads, outside the territory claimed by any government. The term is a combination of the words sea and homesteading.

The basic premise is that if you don't like your government, you can float your house to another city/nation that is more to your liking. Essentially voting with your house.


If you have any questions let me know, I've been involved in seasteading since 2008 and am currently volunteering for the The Floating Island Project in French Polynesia to get the world's first seastead up and floating by 2021.

Reserved for FAQ:

The Floating Island Project consists of constructing ecological floating platforms in a lagoon of French Polynesia that could offer a response to the challenges of rising sea levels and sustainable development.

These platforms would also provide a basis for homes, offices and infrastructure to encourage the formation of vibrant communities and explore new ways of living together.

At the same time, it will promote innovation in digital and marine technologies by creating an attractive destination benefiting from its unique framework.


Blue Frontiers was founded in 2017 by members of The Seasteading Institute and a former minister of French Polynesia, Blue Frontiers has a diverse team from around the world, working on developing floating islands in French Polynesia.

Blue Frontiers is making it possible to decentralize governance by launching a seasteading industry that will provide humanity with new options for organizing societies and governments. Seasteads will provide environmental resilience to the millions of people threatened by rising sea levels.

https://www.blue-frontiers.com

That timeline would give us the bottom in month or so. Then the long climb back up again.

I always wonder about if there is a PIN or password required once he scans his hand.

Otherwise someone can just walk past him down the street with an NFC scanner and get his bitcoins.

The guy seems smart enough so I would imagine he has thought of that.

I figure so many people give the shitty advice of "don't invest more than you can afford to loose" that there must be something to adding an 'o' so I would step it up with yet another 'o'.

The smallest amount was probably 2 or 3 other people in the room. Usually one of those people was a co-worker who knew exactly what I was doing and would curse at me later for leaving him in there to endure the insanity.

Don't invest more than you can afford to looose.

The sad thing is that the price jump is probably someone with insider knowledge who knows the US is about to start a(nother) full out war.

For a long time I considered living in a stealth sleeper van. I was going to paint it up like a plumber's van or something that nobody would care about sitting on their street.

Doing my research a lot of people talked about how you should get a gym membership instead of installing a shower.

Also, Walmart is the most friendly to people parking over night.

It is the smaller amount that is the hardest because if you are just one of 3 people they notice more than a group of 10.

Usually it was the same guy going on and on about the same thing to two or three of us. I would inch my way to the door like I was still listening. Then lean on the door frame. Then the key was when there was talking back and forth...just slip to the side. From there I would walk quickly around the corner just in case. Once I was out the door I was home free.

If you can't get paid to do something you love, get paid to do nothing. Go work for the government

Worked for me. I seriously stayed on an extra 6 months because getting paid a six figure salary to go screw around on the Internet 3-4 hours a day was so easy that I wondered why I should retire. I made a game of seeing how good I could get at disappearing from a room without anyone noticing when people were talking about work. But when the bitcoin price went up and my holdings went up by a year's salary in one day it really didn't make sense to continue.

My bad. Wanted to buy 10 BTC but my key stuck and I bought 10000.

oops


and yes, I just happened to have $70 million sitting on the exchange....rainy day fund

Sudden $200 drop anyone?