Hey Brad awesome links and data man! always good to see you, you have been one of the coolest and most knowledgeable people I have dealt with on bitcointalk. My remaining time here is short, as they keep banning me for numerous reasons, mainly affiliate/referral links -- so no matter what happens I want to see it was cool meeting you on here! I didn't share any links here because they would just ban me for another 30 or 60 days or forever. I'll see you on the moon! I backed off this a little...Nebra is the only one selling...with hard batch timelines and such I think..the others say pre-order... .and need FCC approval to move any it seems so I'm not sure they have moved their 5 batches yet to USA ..i don't think you can do so w/o FCC approval? not a big deal..but people have to realize you make passive income on these from linking with another and that is the adoption they put out a sh*tload of nodes up...and the bonus is 1/3 cut of supply that maybe $600 amount in August when I get mine is probably gonna be more like $60 and then usual ROI in like a year..or so..as usual with equipment ...if you are betting on the price to pump...to justify your ROI and moon..you should just probably by the coin....so in that this is a one and done for the bonus and 30 htn supposedly for me and however i hitch my 2nd one to...(thats it for most of southern minnesota...if this takes off i'm in a univ town and it will be fine with no efforts from me IF the univ folk ever actually move back here after the pandemic so one and done is fine...now ...if folk reading this on here ...use the where are helium nodes link....and see they are surrounded by them...yeah...get one quick or if you know a lot of folks would do this for the heck of it...that is fine too....but in the valley i'm at it is on the roof outdoor unit with 10 ft recommended pole with this and 3' is it supplied antenna on top of that with weather proof internet cable made to length cable through the house (hard cable) outdoor is powered only by inet hard cable connect...and the same for the other guys place...well...again, in my case.....it will be nice to tell others they can hit on us two and then they get the say 30 htn bonus by doing so after august on equipment after halving...but we are one and done..so I'll wait till IOT is more around here in this valley so moderate your expectations...the ROI people are getting now is based on what supposedly is out there ..but there is more to be shipped way more IMHO then in the network now so calculate accordingly...again...I think that NONE of the Nebra have moved yet pending this weeks or next FCC withdrawl and with paypal they are killing it. anyway...again, my case...one and done with the other guy for the bonus...valley...empty college town...i can wait..it will come but AGAIN I urge everyone here ESPECIALLY in dense urban areas to use the link with the tools in the previous post i link stuff and LOOK around you could get real lucky and have a cluster of 12 or more I think it is for even more of a bonus by joining the party...alas they don't have a bonus for those in the frontier on a zip code as being first to justify expansion past the east and west coast or big urban areas yet. lastly they are prompt on refunds nebra is...and paypal so i could legit bale..also I cancelled thru AMEX but I always do that too.... anyway, figure I'd better be clear I backed off on this some and went from 6 back down to 2....still considering if or how much I may just drop in helium HTN instead of dealing with above...and again my 'guess' is by august the network will be 3x as much and rewards probably 3x less so again...backed off some... do your research I may 'point' to something because it is shiny/pretty and rains crypto supposidly...but usually just the first guy to see it...not supposedly all knowing clueless is my bitcointalk.org motto for a reason! Brad
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Not sure but I think this was a 'legit' hack where their security was dorked...
but if they have no coin...not sure this matters..won't the legal stuff just eat that up?
anyway, my impression is they have zip and the court case is to wrap up the bankruptcy in a legal manner that they were robbed and
not at fault
then again I got my stuff out just before..so have not been paying attention
brad
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... Umm well yeah, if dodge continuously raises in value for over 12yrs vs BTC then I might concede that Dodge is eating BTC. dodge is likely IMHO going to correct as BTC has done in the past say 75% to 80% as in BTC's youth so.....this will likely drive BTC/crypto down (briefly) IMHO as a result but quantity has a quality all its own dodge maybe is going to take by mass adoption the microtransaction market of crypto in some manner hell, this sure shocks me! but IMHO the most likely is like GameStop pump this pump of dodge will I know it made a buddy of mine with miners that were off Bitmain L3+'s and his dodge (4 million) he sold yesterday needless to say, after taxes, he is flush again...out of debt..and can move metal above if he needs to for the coin to boot a far cry from 1-1.5 years ago when he had the L3+'s shut off in August due to heat and no real reason to run them sometimes 'black swan' events like dodge and BTC pump 5x and the chip crisis and ASIC delays work in our favor hell that at least for once makes it an 'unfair' circumstance in small guys favor for once but BTC/crypto is an 'evil' wench...she will turn us again, it's in her nature..but for now the 'crypto sex' is just great again my views, obviously I know 'zip' in that I did not buy mass quantities of dodge 3 months ago and killed it. Brad
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I can't believe this, but I have been mining DOGE with a pair of Titan cubes and the things are..... profitable. It's like dragons have been sleeping in my attic, now I'm going upstairs, dusting them off and thinking "Really? " Man I saw this topic and assumed I was taken back in time. I remember reading this topic alot back in the day and haven't seen it in years. Sure brings back memories. I remember these ASICs. They weren't the best quality however they sure were profitable ASICs if you bought at the right time. I remember the KnC Neptunes on how they were pulling something like 500 Watts or so from a single PCIe cable. I had some of them and remember questioning if I should leave the house when the cables were hot to the touch. Then there are those that got their shipment delayed by like a year or 2. Got the ASICs and basically just ebay'd it because it wasn't profitable at all for most home setups. Crazy that its profitable again. www.litecoinpool.org is at 195% now for merge mining in addition to LTC....at 8c kWh ...IF I remember right WITH tarky titan firmware I THINK I used to get 275 watts per 80mh per full working cube...that is now $2 a day or $60 a month using the above pool. So, for 4c kWh folk in the west coast or down south hell $4 a day or $120 is nothing to sneeze at for giggles gonna go up on eBay Stuff to try and remember (flashing SD etc, etc it is All so murky now) brad
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Weird stuff is going on. Yes BTC is kind of putt putting but my kid is going on about his DOGE mining (I've reactivated a few Titans, and they are fucking PROFITABLE? ON DOGE? ? IT'S THE GOD OF SHITCOINS!!!!!) So what's up? People just nuts? I'm not seeing relative movement on LTC, it's still pegged at .004 to a BTC instead of the .012-.018 before the 2019 implosions. have a buddy with 4 million dodge...he finally dumped 1/4...so he is ahead of the game and debt free off dodge.... i am a bit concerned with stockmarket/dodge/btc/everything pumping....bet everything 'adjusts' or 'corrects' about 15-20% I assume that same will happen with crypto / btc due to 24/7 in/out of assets ....but also assume it will rebound ....where not so sure about stock market /etc and/or dodge for that matter... somehow with some dodge folk (imho) if they dumped at least 'some' ......this is a golden ray of sunshine brad
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Well I just got a nice brand new 30 amp hardwired service run out to my little work shed. Conduit, direct run, Square D service panel, the works.
My little S9 miner is now happily chugging away. Before it pulled 13a and was dragging a 120 volt line run via a 10 gauge extension cord down to 105 volts. Now the voltage drop goes from 120 to 117.
*Wow*. I am a happy camper. No more ghetto class power in there for me.
Sold my s9i for $550 to a buddy at $550 USD w/bitmain PSU ...figure if you need the 'pump' in BTC price for the S9i or L3+ to work...well...skip the process and get BTC! If you are correct you are golden. If BTC goes sideways..well....everyone just mines and (maybe) tries to sell their stuff at the same time w/o the pump in BTC price. If BTC say dumps to like say $44K everyone suddenly has 'boat anchors' because everyone is selling ASAP. Anyway, the data hall was 8c kWh..my home WINTER rate Xcel was 12.5c kWh...god help me what summer rates will be! So the only mining I do now is Attic Mining by selling dubious crap out of my attic on eBay ..which I should have done 'years' ago... took like 2.5k and turned it into a bit over 10k with the BTC pump...so attic mining is the way to go...you know you will die with it otherwise right? that nice action (along with stimulus checks as they arrived) going into BTC was quite the little boon! so motivated to Attic Mine more stuff to eBay and convert to BTC! Brad
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Why was it wet? did DHL drop it in a pool or something? And how did it work once you got it going?
@ Searing
We 'think' it was left out in the rain in Sweden and basically was soaked..the middle 1/3rd was just gone...all you saw was the metal box with the plastic DHL label (about 1/2 page folded in a plastic envelope ..clear...holding on somehow via tape). It was so wet the two ends were held in place by the foam inserts at the end...it was like a 'mushy' Accordion. Indeed that is how the DHL guy delivered it holding the whole thing together like a mushy cardboard Accordion! I was in 'dismay'! I got one of the first batches...that out of like 4 cubes and 16 dies a LOT of people were getting units with 1/2 the cube dead. I had 2 bad-dies on 1 cube out of 4 cubes or and if I remember right that was like 8 dies to the cube? Anyway, mine was in pretty good shape compared to others. The reason being they were so 'frigging' light we figured most of them were tossed and airborne as a way to move them as packages..not mine...was mush, hand-delivered as mentioned above the whole trip. As a guess from how the label looked holding the mess together. So in hindsight, the fact it was falling apart probably saved it from more damage compared to others. I had a full 4oz of water inside...8oz glass...I remember doing that and just shaking my head before I did the hairdryer and the other process to voodoo it back to life. Sheesh...I was such a 'cute' clueless Newbie! Still makes me 'shudder' to this day. Ack! Brad
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There are many better ways to do something...there are many better mousetraps patented by law... does not mean anything if no one uses it. same with FJC with no adoption...with no use no volume without that it is just an interesting gizmo coin...like if I just made a FORK of FJC.. I'd likely get it on an exchange and get MORE action in that there was NO backlog of 80 million coins for sale with NO b8uyers hell, it would be a much better fight not sure why I post here...if you can't see this coin is long dead and gone you are delusional in your belief that faster transaction times or anything else means anything IF NO ONE IS USING THE COIN...you can't buy and sell this coin at 80 million coins in exchanges with NONE selling... thus it is just a bunch of cars on a highway during the Zombie Apocolypse ...you point to the highway as being modern..but the CARS can't move and do commerce back to back.. the same diff on adoption/use/utility of FJC.. 80 million coin for sale for years that has to be sold first for MY coin bought today to be able to move...yep FJC is deader than dead... if your ideas are so great merge with another project is my advice..no hope with current exchanges/protocol and backlog of dead coins... brad
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By the By today is my 8th Year Anniversary of finding out about Bitcoin! April 13th, 2013! Wall Observer Started on April 16th, 2013! Quite the wild ride! I found out about BTC and signed on to www.bitcointalk.org on this date of 4/13/2013! Same day! For both anniversaries! Three days later WO started on 4/16/2013! Kinda cool it has an ATH today too boot! Same for the Stock Market! I mined my first BTC on a KNC 550gh Jupiter Miner that I ordered on July 1st, 2013, and got October 18th, 2013. It was full of water...soggy box....and I had to email tech support in that, it had no switch! Take a paperclip put electrical tape at one end after cutting it in half and short the motherboard connector of the PSU on pin 8, I think it was. To say I was in 'complete' dismay was an understatement! I paid frigging $5,131.80 with shipping from Sweden and after this hell of a day doing /SSH and hairdryer use to get the water out and re-attach loose crap inside..flashing the SD on top of waiting all day for DHL to deliver it...I was a wreck! Shorted the pins, looked at the BTC price at that point at least once that day it was $150.00 even, and made about 1 BTC a day! I then sat in the puddle on the basement floor depressed as hell, in that I could have bought BTC July 1st on this 'dubious' miner at like $79 bucks or some such...and now at $150 BTC it 'obviously' was gonna crash to $25 again. FML! Tough day, but boy was I wrong......lol Smiley Been Quite the ride, may the next 8 years be also as rewarding for fun/profit! Sometimes being a 'clueless' newbie really, really pays off! Brad
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This is kinda cool...someone added another 'dubious' way to mine BTC with a Commodore 64 Computer! https://www.hackster.io/news/you-can-now-mine-bitcoin-using-your-vintage-commodore-64-49057d732c47?fbclid=IwAR2tcdNMSIUzN3wc6ODh48c4ABZXposW4WmsrIb7-C_FRc9q6QYUKeoJTCEJust posted a couple of days ago. By the By today is my 8th Year Anniversary of finding out about Bitcoin! I found out about BTC and signed on to www.bitcointalk.org on this date of 4/13/2013! Same day! For both anniversaries! Kinda cool it has an ATH today too boot! I mined my first BTC on a KNC 550gh Jupiter Miner that I ordered on July 1st, 2013, and got October 18th, 2013. It was full of water...soggy box....and I had to email tech support in that, it had now switch! Take a paperclip put electrical tape at one end after cutting it in half and short the motherboard connector of the PSU on pin 8, I think it was. To say I was in 'complete' dismay was an understatement! I paid frigging $5,131.80 with shipping from Sweden and after this hell of a day doing /SSH and hairdryer use to get the water out and re-attach loose crap inside..flashing the SD on top of waiting all day for DHL to deliver it..I was a wreck! Shorted the pins, looked at th BTC price at that point at least once that day it was $150.00 even and made about 1 BTC a day! I then sat in the puddle on the basement floor depressed as hell, in that I could have bought BTC July 1st on this 'dubious' miner at like $79 bucks or some such...and now at $150 BTC it 'obviously' was gonna crash to $25 again. FML! Tough day, but boy was I wrong......lol Sometimes being a 'clueless' newbie really, really pays off! Brad
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Motty ... hashrate does not influence market price(unless theres literally 0 hashrate, then the coin is dead until someone starts mining) ... its the other way around. FJC needs folks to be buying/trading it for the hashrate to mean anything =)
Of course, I don't think the hash rate directly affects the price. But if the miners refocused on Fujicoin, it's no wonder investors refocus on Fujicoin. I have 10 million FJC if I sold today and scattered all my FJC across all the other exchanges with 80 million or more FJC ahead of me...at the current rate of buys it would take more than 10 years...a decade...for my sale to come up...and it would come up at the lowest sale price in satoshis on all exchanges and this would correspond to also the lowest buy price on those same exchanges...so a wait of 10 years and the only thing that would happen is I'd have a loss on the puny fees going to the exchanges. FJC needs new development...a move to another project/coin/merge with some other project.... indeed...FJC would have MORE luck if you announced a FORK of FJC that only allowed Titans to run on it and no pre-mine on a date/time. At least it would be a fair fight....but you'd still need something But unless you have a new "hook" to attract people to FJC's use..or merge with other projects there is no hope...I can't FIND a deader coin on the exchanges then FJC. The argument if people would just sail their boat to my Island on a 4 hr trip and they'd find out I make the best fish dishes...don't cut it...same idea... same with FJC .... innovate or stay dead coin. 2014 protocol with just seg wit added after does not cut it anymore as a crypto coin project...which I guess is proved by the dead coin status of FJC. Brad
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Bring back Chartbuddy. It was the first thing I checked On Wall Observer. The important point Of Wall Observer is not price It's bid and ask walls. Chartbuddy was great For seeing the ebbs and flows Of buy and sell walls. With only a glance You could see how market moves Happened at the time. So please Richy_T Please do us a big favor. Bring back Chartbuddy. ___ Here's from the archives... The Silk Road bust crashing down And back up again. I miss chart buddy...maybe limit it to 1x a day though...
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This will change as the June/July 2021 Miners arrive batch 4 Nebra Hotspot and other Helium Node Mining gear arrives then. *supposedly* the cutoff for batch 4 was Today 4:59 pm, I think it was, PST. Batch 5 does not go by month, they simply say it will be Q3. I've seen that kinda logic with GPU cards that suddenly are canceled due to the chip crisis. Anyway, The Nebra miners I have links for here take PayPal so no issues. Use with a credit card and PayPal and you are doubly protected. I got TWO in the middle of Southern Minnesota and so NO other nodes....to get the challenger award that is 1.82 HNT currently (so sad) IF the equipment was here if you have TWO nodes of anybody outside of around 300m and no more than 1200m (indoor) or 2000m (outdoor) this is the minimum they can do better than this...then you only get that. With another NODE in view (75% of all nodes have this) you are looking at 60 or so HTN a month....so I got two. There is a PC store (that may or may not have gone out of business a couple of blocks away) and a Gamer D&D RPG place also 2 blocks away. Both are 1 story only mall type buildings though. My first plan (is if not out of biz) the PC store and just 'give' them the node..for 1/2 the rewards and/or they can buy when/if they see it is legit. Even with halving in August....looking at 2 month ROI or some such...so 'doable'. I'm in a University town so I would 'assume' if any come back to the real world there would be more nodes here. I got mine direct from https://www.nebra.com/collections/helium-hotspot-miners-hnt?ref=voskcoin using PayPal. I got the wrong ones (2) indoor...and went with the more spendy outdoor pair...the transaction for such was canceled promptly and I re-did 2 outdoor units. Anyway, the price of Helium could dump, the halving takes a bite out of the above in August....and also 'maybe' a rush of NEW masses of buying of these units also taking down some profits. But I mean really? Right now if you had one in hand it is a 1/2 month ROI assuming you have 2 nodes to get the challengee and witness rewards on top of the 1.82 challengers (called that because your ass is by your lonesome at 1.82 htn that sucks) Why they don't have 'rewards' for us out in the wilderness risking snakebite and bear attacks and rapids to expand their network into the hinterlands I've no idea, seems short-sighted. These devices must just kill for traffic in like downtown N.Y. or something. Anyway, again, even if all the above halving and price goes down for HTN and more competition to mine in difficulty....if it goes down to 1/4 of what it is now that is still like 3-4 month ROI well within my usual (never to happen again) ASIC miner ratio back in the day. Well, for sure I"m the first in the middle of Mankato, Minnesota, and jeez what 125 miles from any other node.....shit 'bears'! (it is tough out here in the wilds of making this network grow by my lonesome!) Anyway, if the above two don't work out, I'll just start bugging neighbors outside the 300m window and such.....I doubt people will turn down $$$ for the use of 15 watts! Stuff to do, not gonna change your life, but as close to hobby mining anything at home I'm ever gonna see again. Brad
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Ack! NO TOUCH! Ack! ONLY HODL! Ack! ( I mean what if you drop it or something and the dog eats the paper wallet!) Ack!
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Two pizzas, Searing :-)
More to the point, yeah this coin has no purpose. If it is going to go somewhere it needs a purpose of some sort. Doge is worse than this coin, but it has a purpose (lulz) so it has value (which is so far beyond stupid I can't explain it).
So, what purpose does FJC serve?
Well, It's the Blockchain for Tokyo, if not all Japan, and that is a big purpose. If you are not Japanese, or a fan of Japan, you know, wanting to go visit, get into another coin. And it's a S curve coin; till 2024, it's the early adopters era for this chain. Check on FJC's website, instead of screaming that you are paid to whine. Who knew that the CIA was this malefic in the end, uh? the catch is ...you can't buy and then sell it...with 80 million FJC for sale at the min exchange rate...the same rate for selling you bought it at...as both are flatlined at the bottom..why would you buy this FJC just to buy at the lowest exchange rate allowed on all exchanges with a sell at the SAME AMOUNT but you have 80 million FJC in the exchanges or more in the QUE ahead of you....and with at (see www.coinmarket.com for FJC volume) what...FJC has done maybe 300 bucks volume in 3 months? It would take you YEARS to sell your FJC and ONLY to get the same amount you bought it for! In that, both selling and buying are at the same maximum and minimum allowed on the exchange...you'd waste years for the sale and only end up behind with the dust of fees to the exchange before your FJC could ever sell with the 80 million sells and no buys on the same above exchanges... you are either just trolling for giggles or are really, really stupid.. NOW IF FJC would or could MERGE with another coin or NFT or SOMETHING in some manner....maybe...but the OP has told me in PM that he plans no new enhancements of any kind. The only enhancement since 2014 was seg witness... Sorry, any reply to this...that FJC is not a 'dead' coin and I'll just put you on ignore...for being a troll...no one looking at volume and price and sale price and number of sells vs no buys on www.coinmarketcap.com can be that stupid...thus Troll thee be! Brad
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Oh? How so?
Such a 'dead' coin...I can't find a deader one.....so many millions for sale..with no takers.... https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/fujicoin/FJC needs to merge with another coin....or just pull the plug 2014 mods don't make it in 2021. It's one of the best coins, this FJC. Nothing dead in it. 80 million or so FJC for sale or more on various exchanges...and exchanges ONLY go down to FujiCoin Price (FJC) I think it 0.00000001 sats...so not worth that.....currently at this post says it is worth $0.0005804 per FJC...but again..that is as low as most exchanges will go on sats for either buy or selling and look at an exchange..no one is selling...I long for the days exchanges would purge dead coins..now they go so low in price and just sit there. also, the 80 million IN THE QUE ahead of any FJC you may sell now look at www.coinmarketcap.com and FJC below and see the WOW maybe 500 dollars sold out of daily volume on that backlog in the last 6 months....so the calculators are wrong...exchanges DON'T take dead coins off of exchanges anymore ...why should they? as stated above from the last sentence..they got say from www.coinmarket.com chart 500 volume FJC dollars in sales out of this dead coin above. don't believe me...look at the below link for FJC on coinmarketcap.com and see how much real volume there is on this coin in last month/year it is dismal...no sales if you buy you are behind everyone trying to sell at above-inflated price as low as they will allow the coin to go and as inflated as the price is as a result....sheesh... https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/fujicoin/again, pick an exchange...see the millions for sale and the price vs NO buys from day to day..don't trust me..check yourself the main point is ANY FJC you 'bought' today you could NEVER sell..with 80 million FJC for sale and no buys on exchanges....if the MINUMUM that an exchange a FJC will sell at for the lowest is 1 say or 0.0000001 ..and the 80 million FJC also at that limit...you have 80 million FJC ahead of you in the sell que that can ONLY buy at lowest 1 sat or 0.0000001 as well..so you can only sell at this inflated 'keep the dead coin' alive price and you can only buy at this same price..IF you could get through the millions of FJC in Que ahead of you to even sell at a loss or whatever in the above...simply would be exchanging buy/sell at same 'keep dead coin' alive the lowest basis sell/buy price to keep the coin on the particular exchange. So I have 10,000,000.00 FJC at the coinmarket price just now on this link as of this moment..,https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/fujicoin/ it shows an FJC price of $0.0005804 USD x 10,000,000.00 FJC that will equal $5,804.00 usd above. I'd sell the works for 10% of that price $580.00! Or make me an offer on this thread, (not PM...I get enough offers of much worse) if it is on this thread...EVERYONE can see what 10,000,000 FJC is REALLY worth to the world. Thus we'd have a deal! Outside the exchanges..direct to you! But if anyone REALLY thinks my 10 million FJC is worth $5,804.00 USD and can find an exchange that does NOT have a 3-year long QUE of sales that have to move first before me..especially at the www.coinmarket.com price above...by all means post it here..I'll eat a massive 'crow' on this to be wrong. But the 10 million FJC is for sale, make an offer in this thread, for all to see the 'real' price such an amount will go for....and they all can be yours! Again, don't listen to me...pick any FJC on an exchange..see how many millions of FJC with no buyers are for sale on any exchange that takes FJC... see the NO buys..see that both sale and buy are at the SAME around 0.00000001 sats or whatever...and look at the coinmarket link above FJC volume chart for the last 6 months to 1 year and mentally (using fingers and toes) add up the meager volume in USD moved on the network it is a dead coin indeed. It will be 'interesting to see if I get ANY offers, via again this thread here so EVERYONE can see, in that no one believes my previous offers in PM here on bitcointalk... in any offer of BTC dust for my 10,000,000.00 FJC... me thinks it is 'doubtful' let the market decide on this FJC thread Brad
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Oh? How so?
Such a 'dead' coin...I can't find a deader one.....so many millions for sale..with no takers.... https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/fujicoin/FJC needs to merge with another coin....or just pull the plug 2014 mods don't make it in 2021.
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Long fight at 59k. Coil baby coil.
First read it as 'oil baby oil' Then realized...hell...that works too!
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^^ PlanB's modelling S2F also adjusted as the price is moving, and it's a long term modelling as far as I understand. I voted $150k, I'm still very bullish that we might get to this price at the end of the year. There could be more institutions and big companies that are willing to hedge their balance sheet as Feds will continue to print money. And of course, a lot of positive news, specially in the last quarter of the year.
From what I can tell from the PlanB chart is that he expects the BTC price to level out at about $100,000.00 USD. Or I suppose he may have just 'run out of chart'. Well, 100k sideways until the next halving. I suppose I can live with that...snicker....I crack myself up... I still 'maybe' suspect a 15-20% dump on price on frigging 'everything' from property to the stock market and even crypto..even if temporary for BTC/crypto..I don't think it has sunk in yet how much the Pandemic cost the world economically and with the debt (even if it did keep the gears going and the world out of depression worldwide) Then you add to the fact in the USA we have let roads/bridges and infrastructure lapse during 'supposed' good times for crying out loud. (tax cuts...sheesh) Well it like, the reality of dealing with both is going to stop this stock market rise IMHO. At worst, IMHO, BTC/Crypto and Gold would go 'sideways' in price but I suspect BTC/Crypto to the moon under such a scenario and inflation issues to keep the world's ugly economic issues going. But, being 24/7 buy-sell....we will take a hit...like everything else when this new world reality hits the forefront of everyone's mind. sucks... anyway, planning on a 15% or so dip in BTC/Crypto prices 'eventually' the catch is at what ATH price will that happen from? The stock market on such, on my above guesses, I'd assume would not 'bounce back' quickly on such realizations, even more so if you add inflation. Brad
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