Thanks...I got my raffle winnings for raffle number 6, which is below: CS2 Blue (6 Digit) Honey Badger, Liberty Dollar, Copper Bitcoin Round and (NEW!) Basketball/Darts/etc. Bitcoin Arm Band I 'particularly' am unsure what exactly the CS2 Blue (6 Digit) Honey Badger sealed thing is? I looked inside and see a card with a QR code I assume this item has some kind of miniscule Bitcoin Dust of some $$$ amount? And maybe some Bitcoin and Crypto related adhesive stickers or something? Anyone who has one of these, could you tell me more info..I think it is in German? Anyway, other than that bit of confusion, thanks for the stuff. Let us know the next auction (if any)  (I should do a 'free bitcoin crap' auction...I probably have 'enough' dubious related BTC crap as such...hmmmm) Brad |
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Simple answer is no as I have no use for "Paypal BTC" at this point.
However I'm a big user of PayPal, and a BTC enthusiast, so I hope PayPal can improve their offering over time. If they could accept BTC deposits, that could be used when buying goods and services, then that would be useful.
I will buy Bitcoin and Litecoin and maybe ETH (not a chance in hell I'm gonna buy Bitcoin Cash) ....for the following reasons: I 'suspect' given some time like the old PayPal Viemo...that will become a crypto PayPal wallet now...in that to PayPal did 'eventually' allow Vimeo to let you take crypto in/out....so I am 'suspecting' the same here, eventually, with such options in PayPal. It is NOT that big a stretch to see PayPal, IMHO...suddenly start to act like Coinbase and such. Indeed, cutting into BTC/Crypto Exchange action via PayPal instead makes a lot of sense for PayPal to do. Not saying the fees would be any less...maybe even more...but they won't stop with where they are now with crypto and PayPal actions, IMHO. I also think that it is a 'matter of adoption'. IF PayPal did allow crypto actions in/out even with KYC and such that Coinbase has to do..I think they will clean up....mostly to our benifit in the way of great inroads into adoption and hopefully HODL'ing to the masses via some 'toe-tipping' into the waters of PayPal. Just saying, IMHO, BTC/Crypto is 'virtual land. In Bitcoin's case 18.5 million or the 21 million coins are 'already' mined and out in the world..so it all depends on adoption to build the 'infrasture' on top of this 'virtual land'. The internet backbone, you made NO $$$ on that, the $$$ were in the apps like Facebook/Ebay/etc. With BTC/Crypto it is adoption and use, the $$$ are not mostly in the apps..they are mostly reflected eventually in the BTC blockchain and reflected in BTC price (or as I think of it ..virtual land) so...anyway, how I see it. PayPal will 'evolve' into Coinbase in some manner or another (good or bad) and Banks IMHO MAY never allow you to have access to your BTC/Crytpo holdings...I suspect they never will go beyond in/out and never give you direct access to coins. As of 'virtual' type stuff like PayPal...well....I am more hopeful in that they did eventually allow such with Viemo ...that is to become the wallet. Of course, back to this thread...IF PayPal 'does' manage to buy BitGo...then they could do the above and use PayPal as it is 'as the in' with links inside to further just use Bitgo....that would be from PayPal's point of view the quick and easy way to land like an Elephant in the BTC/Crypto Playground indeed! again I know zip, at one time I believed in ButterFly Labs...so keep that in mind..but how I see things likely to play out one way or another Brad |
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Accepted! Welcome to the Campaign, please update your Signature & Avatar asap.
We are once again CFNP, thank you all for your applications Thanks! Corrected to a Segwit address...so all should be good now! Will go look and see what the weekly cutoff date is now. Brad edit: 10/24/2020 to 10/30/2020...I guess that is 'clear' enough! |
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As an 'aside' to keep things into perspective....the following date of the FIRST WO post here 4/16/2013 'exactly' 3 days after I found out about Bitcoin and I happened to join this forum www.bitcointalk.org on 4/13/2013 myself...$67.43...did not, myself, 'get' or 'mine' a BTC till 10/18/2013 and 'sometime' that day, I looked, and it was an 'even' $150 a BTC and 'thought' I'd missed the boat from my www.bitcointalk.org start date above! Again....wow...I shoulda sold the house/car/frigging everything and the cat...back then for BTC! Hopefully more of the same in the next 7 years! As of the price of BTC...wow...below:  Lest we forget! Brad |
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if it was 'easy' to find decent places in china everyone would be doing it along with me....by the time maintence fees and the rest are included it comes out to 9c kWh. so is a no go to me or places with 'big' names i've tripped over "supposedly".
if you knew the language and had connections, perhaps, but there are guys I know who did this a few years ago in Russia and they don't even have a box of rocks to show for their BTC/Crypto.
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No connections...and I know some guys that did so with such in Russia who don't even have a sack of rocks to show for it. There are some Chinese American's that speak the language and are on top of such for China Miners there..but 'alas' don't have the connections to trust/verifiy and send BTC to such.  |
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That is my point! I'm having 'issues' with seeing $20k BTC as Bearish! (come, on....my first BTC was made at $150 on Sept 18th, 2013 for crying out loud on a KNC Jupiter Machine..that I had to email tech support as it had no frigging ON switch...for $5,313.80 usd for crying out loud...they had me use a cut off paper clip with black elec tape at one end to JUMP the Corsair 1200 PSU for crying out loud! So I closed my eyes, and 'wet myself' a litle bit and bingo it worked But 'really'? $20k is bearish in 2021? When the low as what? $3,400 usd in 2017? ...sheesh... (on second thought, assuming you are right the 'worst' that can happen is $20k....er nerver mind you are correct...I'll just amble off now) stop shitting on knc. they DID deliver. you think it would have been better to participate in any other pre-sale of that time, like cointerra? hashfast? and god forbid butterflylabs? the bitcoin you own you mined with knc. everyone and their grandmother was shitting on knc from the getgo. I wanted to invest in mining in 2013 and thought a Swedish company (knc) would probably be the least likely to scam their customers. because of ethics. took the effort and took a flight to Stockholm to visit their headquarters. was able to get into first batch of first knc gear. (the invoice I got from knc had the # 00001) big thanx to their CEO Sam Cole. folks who had invested in any of the competition got screwed royally. here is a link to a medium post by Sam Cole. https://medium.com/hackernoon/asicboost-655a73d48ae4 Yep, got 'banned' from BFL Chat Forum blamo/guick ..stating that how did we know that BFL was not just 'strining us along' with their promises...then a mess of folk defended me and were banned...I cancelled a 2nd 8k order from BFL on the last day of Paypal and got a KNC miner (with line drawings on the www page..sigh.. I was such a clueless newbie)....I also did (by chance) get re-imbursed my other orders from BFL a week before the SEC shut BFL down...indeed they must have gotten wind of such SEC actions because that only lasted about a week before...but that was just luck..I was not screwed and about 1 year after I wrote the works off. BFL what a bunch of assholes ..the SEC bankrupted BFL the company and I think it was only a $30k fine 'split' between 3 people..so they got to keep all that BTC they mined by not shipping miners..quite the sucessful scam back in the day. Josh .sheesh..what a 'tool' |
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That is my point! I'm having 'issues' with seeing $20k BTC as Bearish! (come, on....my first BTC was made at $150 on Sept 18th, 2013 for crying out loud on a KNC Jupiter Machine..that I had to email tech support as it had no frigging ON switch...for $5,313.80 usd for crying out loud...they had me use a cut off paper clip with black elec tape at one end to JUMP the Corsair 1200 PSU for crying out loud! So I closed my eyes, and 'wet myself' a litle bit and bingo it worked But 'really'? $20k is bearish in 2021? When the low as what? $3,400 usd in 2017? ...sheesh... (on second thought, assuming you are right the 'worst' that can happen is $20k....er nerver mind you are correct...I'll just amble off now) stop shitting on knc. they DID deliver. you think it would have been better to participate in any other pre-sale of that time, like cointerra? hashfast? and god forbid butterflylabs? the bitcoin you own you mined with knc. everyone and their grandmother was shitting on knc from the getgo. I wanted to invest in mining in 2013 and thought a Swedish company (knc) would probably be the least likely to scam their customers. because of ethics. took the effort and took a flight to Stockholm to visit their headquarters. was able to get into first batch of first knc gear. (the invoice I got from knc had the # 00001) big thanx to their CEO Sam Cole. folks who had invested in any of the competition got screwed royally. here is a link to a medium post by Sam Cole. https://medium.com/hackernoon/asicboost-655a73d48ae4KNC IN THE ABOVE is just dandy...but it was me! I was freaked out that i paid that $$$ to KNC as a 'newbie' and they had no frigging SWITCH on the machine... it gave me pause indeed! I mean...a frigging newbie...the unit arrived full of water...and box in tatters/soggy...(not knc's fault) it was a rough day for my newbie self...looking for the damn switch! |
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while i dont see 100k in 2021.
right now today if we matched 2017 we need to be at 78k.
this is base on mining profit.
so I think we could get to 78k by nov 2021.
for me i need 26-30k to be doing well with my mining farm.
IMHO, I see BTC being a bit over or around $20k at the end of 2021. (I can't believe I'm saying only, when I got into BTC Sept 18th, 2013 it was $150). Anyway, my reasoning is as follows (1) blowback and FUD from the powerful/banker/and vested interests that will try to distract and such on BTC/Crypto...there is always a 'backlash' in that area (2) Times are tough and they may get worse..thus some will 'reasonably' take some money out of the long term HODL wallets for real-life issues, again, IMHO. Also, quite frankly if you are a 'huge' whale even taking 5% off your hoard at $20k would be tempting...not a big deal if you just did so, but if everyone else thinks the same due to the sucky economic times I expect in 2021 it all adds up. (3) Human nature for the long term HODL'ers to take some profits....and I think $20k for a long term Hodl'er with more BTC than myself will be 'convinced' to sell some in the coming recession and bad economic times...especially as a hedge, and if he is older than say 55 years old, or so. Again, the economy gets sketchy what else can you move 24/7 ..as a hedge against, what I expect is a 'sucky' year on the whole economically for the world, in 2021. (now, am I gonna get beat up on WO for this post!) Anyway, if I am right on my prediction of dismalness...that is not so bad ..if the 100k in 2021 comes to pass I'll take the fall on this post then) Sketchy...what else can you sell/move but BTC/Crypto 24/7 on a whim of you against the world/universe if 2021 sucks as bad as I suspect. Brad This reasoning reminds me of our old friend mindrust...  Hey, I may be an old, slow, bull...but I'm still walking up the hill for BTC price....if I don't catch up and you feel the need to blow past $50k DON'T WAIT FOR ME! |
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while i dont see 100k in 2021.
right now today if we matched 2017 we need to be at 78k.
this is base on mining profit.
so I think we could get to 78k by nov 2021.
for me i need 26-30k to be doing well with my mining farm.
IMHO, I see BTC being a bit over or around $20k at the end of 2021. (I can't believe I'm saying only, when I got into BTC Sept 18th, 2013 it was $150). Anyway, my reasoning is as follows (1) blowback and FUD from the powerful/banker/and vested interests that will try to distract and such on BTC/Crypto...there is always a 'backlash' in that area (2) Times are tough and they may get worse..thus some will 'reasonably' take some money out of the long term HODL wallets for real-life issues, again, IMHO. Also, quite frankly if you are a 'huge' whale even taking 5% off your hoard at $20k would be tempting...not a big deal if you just did so, but if everyone else thinks the same due to the sucky economic times I expect in 2021 it all adds up. (3) Human nature for the long term HODL'ers to take some profits....and I think $20k for a long term Hodl'er with more BTC than myself will be 'convinced' to sell some in the coming recession and bad economic times...especially as a hedge, and if he is older than say 55 years old, or so. Again, the economy gets sketchy what else can you move 24/7 ..as a hedge against, what I expect is a 'sucky' year on the whole economically for the world, in 2021. (now, am I gonna get beat up on WO for this post!) Anyway, if I am right on my prediction of dismalness...that is not so bad ..if the 100k in 2021 comes to pass I'll take the fall on this post then) Sketchy...what else can you sell/move but BTC/Crypto 24/7 on a whim of you against the world/universe if 2021 sucks as bad as I suspect. Brad That's it, Searing turned "bearish". It's all over now, get your ready bags packed, fits hitting the shan! Get your tissues, whole lot of tears are coming.  That is my point! I'm having 'issues' with seeing $20k BTC as Bearish! (come, on....my first BTC was made at $150 on Sept 18th, 2013 for crying out loud on a KNC Jupiter Machine..that I had to email tech support as it had no frigging ON switch...for $5,313.80 usd for crying out loud...they had me use a cut off paper clip with black elec tape at one end to JUMP the Corsair 1200 PSU for crying out loud! So I closed my eyes, and 'wet myself' a litle bit and bingo it worked But 'really'? $20k is bearish in 2021? When the low as what? $3,400 usd in 2017? ...sheesh... (on second thought, assuming you are right the 'worst' that can happen is $20k....er nerver mind you are correct...I'll just amble off now) |
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while i dont see 100k in 2021.
right now today if we matched 2017 we need to be at 78k.
this is base on mining profit.
so I think we could get to 78k by nov 2021.
for me i need 26-30k to be doing well with my mining farm.
IMHO, I see BTC being a bit over or around $20k at the end of 2021. (I can't believe I'm saying only, when I got into BTC Sept 18th, 2013 it was $150). Anyway, my reasoning is as follows (1) blowback and FUD from the powerful/banker/and vested interests that will try to distract and such on BTC/Crypto...there is always a 'backlash' in that area (2) Times are tough and they may get worse..thus some will 'reasonably' take some money out of the long term HODL wallets for real-life issues, again, IMHO. Also, quite frankly if you are a 'huge' whale even taking 5% off your hoard at $20k would be tempting...not a big deal if you just did so, but if everyone else thinks the same due to the sucky economic times I expect in 2021 it all adds up. (3) Human nature for the long term HODL'ers to take some profits....and I think $20k for a long term Hodl'er with more BTC than myself will be 'convinced' to sell some in the coming recession and bad economic times...especially as a hedge, and if he is older than say 55 years old, or so. Again, the economy gets sketchy what else can you move 24/7 ..as a hedge against, what I expect is a 'sucky' year on the whole economically for the world, in 2021. (now, am I gonna get beat up on WO for this post!) Anyway, if I am right on my prediction of dismalness...that is not so bad ..if the 100k in 2021 comes to pass I'll take the fall on this post then) Sketchy...what else can you sell/move but BTC/Crypto 24/7 on a whim of you against the world/universe if 2021 sucks as bad as I suspect. Brad |
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I think we have heard your story quite a few times. Thanks for that. It probably helped things move along. At the time of the sale the 50mh was $2000 and the 250mh was about $8000.
I don’t think they got away with too much honesty, they did drag it out and probably paid themselves a salary so dragging it out was beneficial to them but in my case, I did get an email right when the order came out against them offering to refund the money. I didn’t take it unlike someone else on this forum cause they said no lawyers fees. Well, after $11k was paid for machines, I also spent $7k for lawyers fees and a huge risk. The email they sent out before the payday is a way for them to avoid paying the lawyers fees and interest. I declined and the next few days I got the judgement for the original amount I paid for the miners, interest, and every penny I had paid to the lawyers. One thing did change was the exchange rate from dollars to pounds. But in the end I think I made a tiny bit more than everything spent. Although, it was brutal paying almost 60% of the amount you are suing for with no guarantee.
I paid ~$11k to them and $7k to the lawyers and they paid me $18k. So they are at a -$7k loss on just my order. Only thing that helped them was that only one judgement at a time which took a couple months. So that was their reason to drag it out
yeah..hard to tell..who knows about my story (or yours sometime in the future) with how infrequent people post on this thread..why Alpha never killed isthis thread is a mystery to me...but anyway.....there were very few who pulled off a refund...I remember a couple folk saying they also had luck with MasterCard and PayPal (Paypal was slammed in a week when the how too was posted on how to do that and what to say on dispute with them...so it was pretty brief..also listed in the past on here) but ....no asic maker since around 2013-2014 has ever taken PayPal and been legit since then...the original KNC miner took paypal ..back in the day and some others but you could not 'scam' people..so the rule of thumb for me was if it takes paypal..it likely is a scam to wait out beyond shipping you a supposed unit after 45 days (or 60 if you have a credit card) with promises and then walking...again...not worth the hassle on your scam asic miner to do paypal...and a pain for legit asic makers if you got a lemon..thus ..that option with asic makers kinda went poof after 2014...sad to say |
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Yeah but....it's bitcoin and also 3 other shitcoins that we all know are completely worthless.
Not quite what I meant: They could have sold paypalcoin or some BS like that which isn't backed by anything. LTC is a little coin but at least it has a public mining community. Huffing ether... is, and I didn't see what the last one was. I believe it's BCash, the biggest and most worthless scam coin of them all. The *king* of shitcoins (well, next to BSV of course). Oh Bitcoin Trash! I remember that fondly, when it came out I swept a bunch of wallets, then converted it all to bitcoin. I think I even have a separate wallet for that one since I can't figure out how to tax the base value. It did.... well. (You could say the base value was zero since it was "created" however it did ding the value of bitcoin so I think that should be taken into account. Since I converted it back to bitcoin one might also consider it a wash and I should continue to base value on the original acquisition price. Dunno, will figure out someday) hhu I think? If you move BTC Cash and BTC SV and other 'forks' off your main chain...it then is ALL profit...in other words it fell out of the sky at that price you moved it at. Does not apply to cap gains...if it fell out of the sky say BTC cash at whatever it was at $214 usd or some such, in that it was ALL profit (like a gift) ..thus if you had say 100 BTC and sold 100 BCH at say $400 at 15% cap gains and in my case (MN) 10% approx state tax that is 25% of $40,000.00 owed ($10k) no matter how you cut it...mine is still riding on the original blockchains on all the forks...one time I was bored and used www.cointracker.io a free tracker of BTC and Altcoins and put in like I think ALL the supposed BTC and some other Altcoin forks. Most of such is junk like 100 BTC is worth $1.98 on such forks. It was boring and must be more than a couple dozen forks on the site...but since 2017 not any new real forks of any note....add altcoin wallets and setting up manual wallets for not the public addresses on such altcoins...and it shows my total BTC/Crypto worth from day to day. It is a FREE service...so kinda slick. anyway...my CPA says if MONEY falls out of the SKY you pay the full cap gains on whatever you sell it for in USD once you pull it off the blockchain...so the day you pull your forked coin is the day it $$$ wise is you use for cap gains. Again, the cointracker site above..i keep track of my forked coins..but have not pulled any....just a way to keep score. brad |
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I am excited about the price, not excited about paypal at all.
This can't be a whole story, maybe they wait for some legislation.
Otherwise, why would I buy btc on paypal when I cannot buy anything with that btc and/or move it around?
there is a pretty good chance, eventually, that PayPal will act like Coinbase and crypto.. under US rules that way...IMHO...we will see...but the main thing to me is it opens up Amazon, eBay, etc to folks overseas with only BTC or LTC or whatever as an option to pay? Thus Amazon does not care about your credit rating or bank etc ...in the 3rd world nation to get a product..using BTC/crypto .and/or the consumer from their knows they have PayPal protections with their BTC under Paypal. win/win...adoption should explode....with a lot of these international bottlenecks or corrupt banks or corrupt gov't sidelined... it should be 'huge' IMHO even if "once the crytpo is in PayPal it is 'fiat' setup....just too good to be used internationally and for world wide commerce and adoption IMHO. also the more adoption.the more my portion of 18.5 million BTC of 'virtual landscape' with use goes up in value. I always think of BTC/crypto as 'virtual land' in that the original internet the $$$ were in the applications like facebook yahoo etc..not the internet backbone but with BTC/crypto, IMHO, the value mostly is in the backbone or network (btc) which is reflected from the application and useage and adoption or so I'm looking at it Brad |
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I sued them through small claims in the UK and waited in line for about a year or so. I had one order for the 50 and one for the 250. My case came up and presented all evidence and got my $11k back plus lawyer fees plus interest paid at 8% or so. The final total was about $18,300k paid back, 7k in lawyer fees. it was nerve wrecking especially after paying lawyers in the UK so much after sinking so much. paid back in June 2018.
I sic'd American Express on them Dispute...then Amex 'denied' the refund....they sent me a copy of the bill they were sent from Alpha saying 'paid in full'...I showed them I did not pay them in full and indeed only the min fee of what was it like 1/3 via paypal and proved they lied with the Paid in Full invoice (.jpg) ...first time I ever heard an Amex Dispute Rep say 'assholes' and don't worry about it. On follow up, from what I understand, Amex had access to some account they used and refunded everyone using their cards via that account until Alpha shut it down..the principals I heard fled back to India keeping all that nice BTC. Anyway, I only got the small unit ...so I think I was only down $600 bucks..but it was nice to know that Amex then used my case to refund everyone and got thousands back till they killed the bank account... anyway...the assholes got away with it clean Brad |
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Or they did.
Hopefully but if they did they should not have had a problem weathering even a few years. Or with hundreds of btc to their names they said fuck this shit. I am moving to costa rica. I wish in 2-3 years, BTC pumps say 4x, 6x 18x.... so I too can make 'dubious' decisions to go elsewhere..find the Trophy Wife...get divorced....have a 'wealth' related breakdown ....you know...living the dream! (Sorry, only have T.V. soap operas to base this on ..if i was to have this kind of wealth...so just kibbitzing here) |
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The recommended mining configuration is completely absurd:
(from mining-hardware-config-testnet-v3.pdf)
2x Epyc 7402 ($2k each)
1x Epyc 7F32 $2k
1TB DRAM $4k
8x 2TB SSD $3k
3x Quadro RTX 6000 $5k each
I think I'll pass on this one....
The only "HOMgE" mining I recommend to people is the following 'Attic Mining' You o to your attic...you find all the stuff that you are too lazy to sell and/or it has some value to toss away...so you don't..in other words, stuff you will simply someday die with, already in your attic and goes on the estate sale for pennies on the $$$. You should 'attic mine' the hell out of it for BTC/crypto! You 'somehow' get motivated to 'sell' the stuff in the attic on eBay and convert it to BTC/dust or whatever as you go thru the pain of slowly moving it out the door on eBay. So: 1) if we are all wrong and BTC/crypto goes full beanie baby we are DOOMED but at least I can make a rec room out of my empty attic and increase house value by $10-15,000 USD. 2) if we are RIGHT and BTC/crypto goes full FOMO yet again up 4x 8x 16x etc..then we will have (1) above and all that nice BTC from our efforts of 'cubicle' boring eBay selling of the stuff we would otherwise die with. Anyway, not like I've actually done the above, but hell it sure sounds like a 'dandy' plan though, doesn't it? Anyway, this is the ONLY far-flung/practical/method to 'mine' anything from your home. I suppose a person on weekends and or retired could play this same game with auctions/estate auctions/storage container auctions/rummage sales/ etc to expand on the above... but again it sure sounds nice...but I have probably $5k of crap in my attic of stuff too cool to toss and nothing is worth less than $40 USD...but it is sooooo boring anyway, when I think about getting a pow miner again ....and my home elec costs (about 14c kWh average) I default on sitting on my hands on the above. Anyway, a fine plan for those with more ambition and organization than myself... Attic Mininig ..dump on eBay and flip for BTC/crypto is the only way to home mine now IMHO. (off to look at internet cats and not take my own advice above) Brad |
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Just for know: today there isn' t an asic profitable for this coin. Innosilicon A6+ is in lose with 8c$ for kw. Who mine this coin and why?
Do you ask if Litecoin mining is still profitable? The answer is Yes. If you have the right setup (low electricity cost + a cool environment + profitable machines) it's still profitable to mine it. As the blockchain for litecoin is still maintained, there should be enough miners to keep it up and they surely generate profit from it. Try to check the mining board in the Litecoin forum mentioned in op for better understanding where you can find the right responses to your technical asks. There is no board here in bitcointalk for altcoin mining afaik. Happy 9th birthday Litecoin It' s very strange. With 5c$/kw the only miner profitable is the A6+ that cost 3000$ and a profit of 1.55$/day. A roe of 6 years. How is the litecoin forum? Ltctlk.org? the litecointalk forum is still about litecointalk.ioby the by.....the litecoinfoundaion's site with the LITEBRINGER RPG game on LTC blockchain ...well, it really, really, really sucks big time..sad to say check it out yourself https://litecoin-foundation.org/latest-news/other than that I'm befuddled on LTC progress.....compared to other coins it seems fairly lame for years Brad |
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buyers remorse With BTC I've NEVER had buyers remorse... I HAVE had sellers remorse of BTC however...also had a pretty good ASIC addiction hardware-wise of any flavor...but that seems to have 'passed' (like a gallstone) so moving on... Brad |
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