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2021  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Cloud Mining - Please help a newbie on: December 21, 2015, 12:30:37 PM
bit x is great but its not like all others are scammer there are also some other old cloud mining website like one you can see in my signature they are old and paying .

if you can get profit from cloud mining or not its depends on you how you handle it

:head-desk:
:head-desk:
:head-floor:

The operation you advertise in your signature is a ponzi-based scam. They are not mining, they are not trusted, they are not transparent.

2022  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ANN - LEOcoin - Official announcement regarding LEOcoin from LEOcoin Foundation on: December 21, 2015, 11:35:31 AM
:wades through sock-puppet bullshit posts:

:raises hand:

Hey, Leocoin Foundation, care to explain how this amazing coin achieves this?
Quote
Through the use of advanced cryptography and encryption methods, we have managed to make LEOcoin a truly anonymous digital currency, in contrast to others which are anonymous only on a superficial level.

Because true anonymity is an awfully difficult thing to achieve and the Leocoin github hasn't been updated in over a year, which would surely mean that hidden in its cut-and-paste code is the holy grail of anonymity?

I'm betting it isn't.

2023  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: CloudMining.website | Starting from 1 GHs @ 0.0008 BTC | Since November 2014 on: December 20, 2015, 05:56:40 PM
I just pointed out to the fact that hashnest offered a rate lower than cloudmining.website. Shutting down due unprofitability may depend on various other factors as well. Cex.io paused mining for public, while their rate was far higher than the competition.

So I point out that your claim to that particular hashnest service being cheaper is irrelevant because it had to shut down several months ago as it was unsustainable, at a point when difficulty was much lower than it is now, and you then cite cex.io shutting down likewise and that it's prices were higher?

I'm not sure how you think you have rebutted my point, which is that cm.w is significantly cheaper than that needed for a legitimate operation to be viable.

2024  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY xpy.io BTCLend LNC. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: December 19, 2015, 08:14:05 AM
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Business Description:   MINORITY OWNED BUSINESS

The fuck? Why is that even a thing?
2025  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY xpy.io BTCLend LNC. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: December 17, 2015, 07:21:09 AM
Haven't seen this before.  The good old days  Cry

https://www.flickr.com/photos/joshgarza/

Quite the source material for all sorts of lulzs..

Damn, poor bastard. Be a long time before he smells that fresh sea air.

Man, you are scary good at this!

Looks like they're from a time before Uncle Stu had to be thrown into the memory hole by Cantor.

One thing that's bugged me so far is that Josh and Uncle Stu knew each other through his son being besties with Homero, right? Wouldn't his son have picked up on the fact that there was no fucking way any of the Garza's were mixing it up with the like of Elon Musk? Wouldn't he have known enough about them to recognise how absurd most of their claims were?

2026  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY xpy.io BTCLend LNC. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: December 16, 2015, 05:06:01 PM
This still cracks me up every time I see it  Cheesy

Love your work at the moment, bringing old school back to the thread.

Homero casually offers Uncle Stu his Tesla. Not just any Tesla. Rather, it's a very special one.....

Quote from: Homero
hey, do you want my model S? I would rather give it to you as its a very special car (gift from elon)
It suggest that Garza actually was scamming Uncle Stu by pretending he was genuinely mixing with tech industry elite.

Quote from: Uncle Stu
I'm not, last person to offer me a car was Bernie. 

Wouldn't it be deliciously ironic if the 'Bernie' in question was Bernie Madoff?
2027  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY xpy.io BTCLend LNC. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: December 16, 2015, 01:44:41 PM
Workin' on sending the Christmas cards to Josh's idiot co-conspirators. I have mailing addresses for many; otherwise, they're getting the digital version.

Santa's naughty list so far:

Stu Fraser
Carlos "Tito" Garza
Adam Matlack
Dan Kelley
Jonah Dorman
Joe Zombie-Mordica
John Caceres
Dan "Unemployed" Pease
Cryptsy HQ
Thomas Fraser


Nice work, don't forget to include their shills like Badbitclown and co.
2028  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Cloud Mining - Please help a newbie on: December 16, 2015, 08:43:26 AM
I'm sure we wont see that day anytime soon while you'll be engaged in bashing Bit-X. Why ? Because that would stop your pay packet. Cheesy

:rolleys: You are so full of it GG/SS/RR, evidence or shut the fuck up. Seriously, all you've got is to claim I'm in the pay of Bit-X because I'm nailing your scam operations and not theirs, even though I am more than happy to tell everyone to avoid ALL cloud mining operations, including Bit-X because, until there is live proof of total market sold versus proven total hashrate owned, there is a risk of fractional mining which invariably has to collapse after a time.

Both 'bitcoinblackfriday' .com & .info showed the offer by CMW. They also listed the correct website of Genesis Mining without any alterations. Does it mean CMW, Genesis Mining, bitcoinblackfriday.com & bitcoinblackfriday.info are run by same people ? Cool

Fallacious reasoning. In any event, whether your scam is part of their scam is part of a shared scam, it is not unusual to see your operation connected with one.

So, how's the 'mining' going over at cm.w central? Still no proof for it yet? Still quoting the longevity of your scam for 'evidence' of it not being a scam? Because, in that case, Bernie Madoff was *totally* innocent.

2029  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: CloudMining.website | Starting from 1 GHs @ 0.0008 BTC | Since November 2014 on: December 16, 2015, 06:50:49 AM
Hashnest UMISOO offered 0.0006 BTC/Ghs.

UMISOO? The same UMISOO that had to shut down because their S2 Antminers can't mine at a profit?
2030  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: CloudMining.website | Starting from 1 GHs @ 0.0008 BTC | Since November 2014 on: December 15, 2015, 11:08:10 AM
As far as I can tell in my run-ins with him, Galdur is just an idiot, whereas I believe GermanGiant/SpanishSoldier/RussianRaibow to be accounts used by the actual operators of this scam and that they run a number of them at any one time, including the 'independent monitoring' website cmmonitor, which they frequently refer people to as some sort of evidence of legitimacy.

Interesting footnote, the recent 'bitcoinblackfriday' .info scam-clone of the legit .com site had multiple links to fake clones of legit services in order to steal from users unfortunate enough not to have noticed that it wasn't the right website, but cloudmining.website was listed without any alterations. This would suggest that the same gang running cm.w also ran that blackfriday clone-site fraud.

2031  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Has Wired discovered the real Satoshi Nakamoto? (.. this time) on: December 15, 2015, 10:58:41 AM
It's becoming clear that everything the "media" pushes is a hoax, a lie, propaganda or part of some satanic agenda to make people stupid, violent sexually confused retards. All in the name of enriching the blood sucking killer clowns that make up the 1% and keeping them in power.

I'm starting to suspect all the missing children end up in the ground meat.

Haha, I do love it when conspiritards quote the famous, "1%" nonsense. You *do* know that means you are talking about over Seventy Million people, right? You are essentially claiming that 70,000,000 people are all working together across the globe, communicating and plotting and implementing a nefarious NWO plan. Seventy million people. Seriously?

Quick question for the likes of you, when is a tragic world event not a fucking 'False Flag' and how do you tell the difference?

*SMH*

Amphetamine Psychosis is a hell of thing. /OT

It is possible that Craig Wright intentionally 'leaked' this information to the media in order to secure himself a do-or-die business deal that might rescue him from the clutches of the ATO, or it could be that he is part of the original group and he created the pseudonym. The trouble is that with him playing the, "No! I am absolutely not SN", it allows him to benefit from the notoriety and belief that he might be SN, without forcing him to actually prove cryptographically that he is.

2032  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: CloudMining.website | Starting from 1 GHs @ 0.0008 BTC | Since November 2014 on: December 15, 2015, 07:59:48 AM
If anyone is interested in learning just how desperate this scam operation is to sucker in newbies, their current price of 0.0008 per GH is almost TEN TIMES CHEAPER* than the going rate for real hashrate, you know, not the made up shit they're selling.

*Source: nicehash.com SHA256 live rate per GH

2033  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Are all cloud mining sites ponzis? on: December 15, 2015, 07:48:30 AM
There is also a third party mining monitor, cmmonitor.com, which has reported to make ROI in ~114 days. Various reports in the forum indicates that there are large number of satisfied customers of www.CloudMining.website, though a few shill always try to distort the truth. Following screenshot is from cmmonitor.com, which depicts the truth...



LMFAO! Hahahahahaaaaa, I just checked how desperate you are to get new suckers and your current price of 0.0008 per GH is almost TEN TIMES CHEAPER* than the going rate for real hashrate, you know, not the made up shit you're selling.

*Source: nicehash.com SHA256 live rate per GH



P.S. Newbies, cmmonitor is likely run by the same criminal group behind a number of ponzi-scamming fraudulent 'cloud mining' operations it 'independently monitors' read: Promotes.
2034  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Cloud Mining - Please help a newbie on: December 15, 2015, 07:31:56 AM
5) no proof of h/w (thats why i am cautious with gigahash)

Actually, what is more important than 'proof' of hardware, which can always be faked, is proof of hashrate. This is extremely easy for the cloud mining operator to show live 24/7, they only need to show blocks being mined as they happened and from this can be extrapolated a rough hashrate.

The only problem with this is establishing that they haven't sold more hashrate than they evidently possess.

Which is why, if you really can't run your own hardware in-house but still want to mine, you're better off avoiding restrictive 'cloud mining' schemes altogether and simply renting actual rigs or straight-up hash-power which you can point wherever you wish.



Where does this logic of your go while you evaluate Bit-X ?

Same old same old from GermanGiant/SpanishSoldier/RussianRaibow accusing me of having an agenda of promoting Bit-X simply because I actively assist newbies to recognise that most Cloud Mining operations are actually just ponzi/fractional mining scams.

Trouble is GG/SS/RR keeps forgetting that I have already commented to his weak accusation that as far as I'm concerned Bit-X could indeed be fractional mining as they only have a specific amount of PH/s provably purchased.

I don't give a shit what you think, scammer, I'd sooner tell all users to avoid cloud mining like the fucking plague.

Still doesn't change the fact that your criminal operation of cloudmining.website is a fraudulent scam. Don't think I didn't notice, by the way, that the 'bitcoinblackfriday' dot info scam copy of the dot com legit site had fraudulently-represented clone copies of legit services it was linking to but, and here's the funny part, cloudmining.website was linked to with no alteration whatsoever. It's almost as if the operators of the cloning fraud had an interest in promoting your fraudulent scam, while ripping off anybody who was clicking through to other services.

2035  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: CloudMining.website | Starting from 1 GHs @ 0.0008 BTC | Since November 2014 on: December 14, 2015, 05:47:09 AM
It isn't doing any mining, it is a ponzi scheme promoted by shills like GermanGiant/SpanishSoldier and newbie sockpuppet accounts who post here to make it look like they are interested in it as a genuine cloud mining service.

Just as a friendly bit of information for you, my newbie friend who is enquiring about cloudmining.website as though it were a genuine cloud mining service:
Criteria to help you spot a cloud mining scam/ponzi.

1) No public mining address / no user selectable pool.
A cloud mining company that wont let you direct the hashrate to your pool of choosing and cant prove its actually mining bitcoins itself, is very likely a scam. There is no reason to hide mining address or not sign blocks. None.

2) No endorsement from any asic vendor
Asic vendors will gladly make a simple post to show the company in question is a significant customer of theirs. Its free advertisement for them and it helps their customer grow their business, so there is absolutely no reason they wouldnt. If a (cloud) mining company cant get any asic vendor to post such endorsement, you should assume they dont have any hardware to mine with.

3) No relevant pictures of their hardware and datacenter
There is no reason not to provide such pictures, except of course, if there is nothing to take pictures off. Mind you: pictures can be faked. Picture dont prove current ownership. So like all criteria listed here, by themselves they are by far insufficient proof.

4) Open ended IPO / fractional reverse mining risk
Unless the cloud mining is operated by the asic vendor himself, you can not sell an unlimited amount of hashrate. Hardware takes (usually a long) time to order, arrive and deploy. Any company that doesnt limit sales or make public how much hashrate they sold vs what they have (provably) deployed should be considered  suspicious.

5) Referral programs and social networking
Referral programs, especially ones that pay almost 10%, are a huge red flag. The mining market is cut throat with razor thin margins. No real company can afford to pay 10% referrals on below market cloudmining prices. Referral programs almost always serve only to feed the ponzi and provide financial incentive to posters to lie about the true nature of the company. Never trust anyone with a referral link in their sig.

6) Anonymous operators
If the operators are hiding behind whoisguard, provide no provable identity and especially when, like in some cloudmining cases, they use demonstrably false ID or company registration information, you have to be nuts to trust them with your money.

7) No exit strategy
If you cant sell your position, you cant get your money out. Thats the ideal case for a ponzi and allows it to run for a  long time.

Let's see how this scam stacks up:
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cloudmining.website   1+2+3+4+5+6+7      => 7/7 = Ponzi
Skycoinlab.com        1+2+3+4+5+6+7      => 7/7 = Ponzi (+ organized by serial ponzi scammer: ?topic=583177.msg10298730)
btcslice.com          1+2+3+4+5+6+7      => 7/7 = Ponzi (+ pays out in reversible paypal ?)
grmining.com          1+2+3+4+5+6+7      => 7/7 = Ponzi
bitcoinmaker.ch       1+2+3+4+6+7+8      => 7/7 = Ponzi
eobot.com             1+2+3+5+6+7        => 6/7 = Ponzi (+ possible malware/wallet stealing software)

You're welcome.

2036  Economy / Exchanges / Re: ***CEX.IO Bitcoin Exchange (Official Thread)*** on: December 11, 2015, 10:18:13 AM
we didn't come up with mutually beneficial conditions to prolong it.

Let me guess, they wanted you to pay your fee for it as a commercial operation?

2037  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Has Wired discovered the real Satoshi Nakamoto? (.. this time) on: December 09, 2015, 03:12:22 PM
^^^ Hahahahahaaaaa. I genuinely lol'd at that!

Trouble is if he has tax 'issues' and the keys to half a billion dollar's worth of bitcoin, I'm not sure the sauve-intellectual-with-a-hard-on-against-a-tax-offical is much better.

2038  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Has Wired discovered the real Satoshi Nakamoto? (.. this time) on: December 09, 2015, 01:47:51 PM
What I've learned from all this is that MRSA is a real bitch. Rest in peace, Dave.

That was my take-home from the article, too. Sounds like a miserable existence for the poor guy.

If it turns out that Craig Wright did create the pseudonym, 'Satoshi Nakamoto' as part of an original plan to intentionally paint an air of mysterious benevolence over the project's origins, its more likely that Dave is the genius behind the tech itself.

If the article is correct in its findings, Craig is more like the egotistical PR genius for the origins of the project.
2039  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Scrypt.CC | Scrypt Cloud Mining on: December 09, 2015, 01:27:19 PM
so top that we aint stopping as long as marcelo can scam everybody

So because scrypt.cc is a proven fraudulent criminal operation you are declaring you have some sort of right to scam, too?

I'm not sure what else you might be implying here.
2040  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Scrypt.CC | Scrypt Cloud Mining on: December 09, 2015, 12:06:20 PM
scrypt.cc is a 100 % scam
join us
much better for your wallet


Quote from: DM
Hello
We are thebigMclub.
We provide people with cloudmining services.
We have a couple clubmembers that are old and have no knowledge of cloudmining or internet.
They simpley invest and we buy in at websites like hashnest.
We set up blockchain accounts for them and pay out daily to their wallets.
We are from the Netherlands and just started up with this service.
We can,t yet start a company because tax laws state that we must earn over 15.000 euro,s a year to start this official company.
As long we stay under 15.000 we are alowed to work like this.
We can start a company now but it will cost us too much at this moment we need to make the 15.000 a year.
However we are working on a website etc..
We are looking for more investors and we where hoping that you could help us out.
As soon as we have reached our target we will start up.
And when we are a company we want to setup a meeting with hashnest to see if we can buy cheaper hardware.
Then we want to start up our own big mine here in the Netherlands.
We need to make more clubmembers to reach target.
If you help us now than we will help you.
Let us know what you think.

I think you suck at being con-artists.
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