Hashnest UMISOO offered 0.0006 BTC/Ghs.
UMISOO? The same UMISOO that had to shut down because their S2 Antminers can't mine at a profit? |
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As far as I can tell in my run-ins with him, Galdur is just an idiot, whereas I believe GermanGiant/SpanishSoldier/RussianRaibow to be accounts used by the actual operators of this scam and that they run a number of them at any one time, including the 'independent monitoring' website cmmonitor, which they frequently refer people to as some sort of evidence of legitimacy.
Interesting footnote, the recent 'bitcoinblackfriday' .info scam-clone of the legit .com site had multiple links to fake clones of legit services in order to steal from users unfortunate enough not to have noticed that it wasn't the right website, but cloudmining.website was listed without any alterations. This would suggest that the same gang running cm.w also ran that blackfriday clone-site fraud.
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It's becoming clear that everything the "media" pushes is a hoax, a lie, propaganda or part of some satanic agenda to make people stupid, violent sexually confused retards. All in the name of enriching the blood sucking killer clowns that make up the 1% and keeping them in power.
I'm starting to suspect all the missing children end up in the ground meat.
Haha, I do love it when conspiritards quote the famous, "1%" nonsense. You *do* know that means you are talking about over Seventy Million people, right? You are essentially claiming that 70,000,000 people are all working together across the globe, communicating and plotting and implementing a nefarious NWO plan. Seventy million people. Seriously? Quick question for the likes of you, when is a tragic world event not a fucking 'False Flag' and how do you tell the difference? *SMH* Amphetamine Psychosis is a hell of thing. /OT It is possible that Craig Wright intentionally 'leaked' this information to the media in order to secure himself a do-or-die business deal that might rescue him from the clutches of the ATO, or it could be that he is part of the original group and he created the pseudonym. The trouble is that with him playing the, "No! I am absolutely not SN", it allows him to benefit from the notoriety and belief that he might be SN, without forcing him to actually prove cryptographically that he is. |
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If anyone is interested in learning just how desperate this scam operation is to sucker in newbies, their current price of 0.0008 per GH is almost TEN TIMES CHEAPER* than the going rate for real hashrate, you know, not the made up shit they're selling.
*Source: nicehash.com SHA256 live rate per GH
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There is also a third party mining monitor, cmmonitor.com, which has reported to make ROI in ~114 days. Various reports in the forum indicates that there are large number of satisfied customers of www.CloudMining.website, though a few shill always try to distort the truth. Following screenshot is from cmmonitor.com, which depicts the truth...  LMFAO! Hahahahahaaaaa, I just checked how desperate you are to get new suckers and your current price of 0.0008 per GH is almost TEN TIMES CHEAPER* than the going rate for real hashrate, you know, not the made up shit you're selling. *Source: nicehash.com SHA256 live rate per GH P.S. Newbies, cmmonitor is likely run by the same criminal group behind a number of ponzi-scamming fraudulent 'cloud mining' operations it 'independently monitors' read: Promotes. |
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5) no proof of h/w (thats why i am cautious with gigahash)
Actually, what is more important than 'proof' of hardware, which can always be faked, is proof of hashrate. This is extremely easy for the cloud mining operator to show live 24/7, they only need to show blocks being mined as they happened and from this can be extrapolated a rough hashrate. The only problem with this is establishing that they haven't sold more hashrate than they evidently possess. Which is why, if you really can't run your own hardware in-house but still want to mine, you're better off avoiding restrictive 'cloud mining' schemes altogether and simply renting actual rigs or straight-up hash-power which you can point wherever you wish. Where does this logic of your go while you evaluate Bit-X ? Same old same old from GermanGiant/SpanishSoldier/RussianRaibow accusing me of having an agenda of promoting Bit-X simply because I actively assist newbies to recognise that most Cloud Mining operations are actually just ponzi/fractional mining scams. Trouble is GG/SS/RR keeps forgetting that I have already commented to his weak accusation that as far as I'm concerned Bit-X could indeed be fractional mining as they only have a specific amount of PH/s provably purchased. I don't give a shit what you think, scammer, I'd sooner tell all users to avoid cloud mining like the fucking plague. Still doesn't change the fact that your criminal operation of cloudmining.website is a fraudulent scam. Don't think I didn't notice, by the way, that the 'bitcoinblackfriday' dot info scam copy of the dot com legit site had fraudulently-represented clone copies of legit services it was linking to but, and here's the funny part, cloudmining.website was linked to with no alteration whatsoever. It's almost as if the operators of the cloning fraud had an interest in promoting your fraudulent scam, while ripping off anybody who was clicking through to other services. |
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It isn't doing any mining, it is a ponzi scheme promoted by shills like GermanGiant/SpanishSoldier and newbie sockpuppet accounts who post here to make it look like they are interested in it as a genuine cloud mining service. Just as a friendly bit of information for you, my newbie friend who is enquiring about cloudmining.website as though it were a genuine cloud mining service: Criteria to help you spot a cloud mining scam/ponzi.
1) No public mining address / no user selectable pool.
A cloud mining company that wont let you direct the hashrate to your pool of choosing and cant prove its actually mining bitcoins itself, is very likely a scam. There is no reason to hide mining address or not sign blocks. None.
2) No endorsement from any asic vendor
Asic vendors will gladly make a simple post to show the company in question is a significant customer of theirs. Its free advertisement for them and it helps their customer grow their business, so there is absolutely no reason they wouldnt. If a (cloud) mining company cant get any asic vendor to post such endorsement, you should assume they dont have any hardware to mine with.
3) No relevant pictures of their hardware and datacenter
There is no reason not to provide such pictures, except of course, if there is nothing to take pictures off. Mind you: pictures can be faked. Picture dont prove current ownership. So like all criteria listed here, by themselves they are by far insufficient proof.
4) Open ended IPO / fractional reverse mining risk
Unless the cloud mining is operated by the asic vendor himself, you can not sell an unlimited amount of hashrate. Hardware takes (usually a long) time to order, arrive and deploy. Any company that doesnt limit sales or make public how much hashrate they sold vs what they have (provably) deployed should be considered suspicious.
5) Referral programs and social networking
Referral programs, especially ones that pay almost 10%, are a huge red flag. The mining market is cut throat with razor thin margins. No real company can afford to pay 10% referrals on below market cloudmining prices. Referral programs almost always serve only to feed the ponzi and provide financial incentive to posters to lie about the true nature of the company. Never trust anyone with a referral link in their sig.
6) Anonymous operators
If the operators are hiding behind whoisguard, provide no provable identity and especially when, like in some cloudmining cases, they use demonstrably false ID or company registration information, you have to be nuts to trust them with your money.
7) No exit strategy
If you cant sell your position, you cant get your money out. Thats the ideal case for a ponzi and allows it to run for a long time. Let's see how this scam stacks up: cloudmining.website 1+2+3+4+5+6+7 => 7/7 = Ponzi
Skycoinlab.com 1+2+3+4+5+6+7 => 7/7 = Ponzi (+ organized by serial ponzi scammer: ?topic=583177.msg10298730)
btcslice.com 1+2+3+4+5+6+7 => 7/7 = Ponzi (+ pays out in reversible paypal ?)
grmining.com 1+2+3+4+5+6+7 => 7/7 = Ponzi
bitcoinmaker.ch 1+2+3+4+6+7+8 => 7/7 = Ponzi
eobot.com 1+2+3+5+6+7 => 6/7 = Ponzi (+ possible malware/wallet stealing software) You're welcome. |
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we didn't come up with mutually beneficial conditions to prolong it. Let me guess, they wanted you to pay your fee for it as a commercial operation? |
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^^^ Hahahahahaaaaa. I genuinely lol'd at that!
Trouble is if he has tax 'issues' and the keys to half a billion dollar's worth of bitcoin, I'm not sure the sauve-intellectual-with-a-hard-on-against-a-tax-offical is much better.
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What I've learned from all this is that MRSA is a real bitch. Rest in peace, Dave.
That was my take-home from the article, too. Sounds like a miserable existence for the poor guy. If it turns out that Craig Wright did create the pseudonym, 'Satoshi Nakamoto' as part of an original plan to intentionally paint an air of mysterious benevolence over the project's origins, its more likely that Dave is the genius behind the tech itself. If the article is correct in its findings, Craig is more like the egotistical PR genius for the origins of the project. |
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so top that we aint stopping as long as marcelo can scam everybody
So because scrypt.cc is a proven fraudulent criminal operation you are declaring you have some sort of right to scam, too? I'm not sure what else you might be implying here. |
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scrypt.cc is a 100 % scam
join us
much better for your wallet
Hello
We are thebigMclub.
We provide people with cloudmining services.
We have a couple clubmembers that are old and have no knowledge of cloudmining or internet.
They simpley invest and we buy in at websites like hashnest.
We set up blockchain accounts for them and pay out daily to their wallets.
We are from the Netherlands and just started up with this service.
We can,t yet start a company because tax laws state that we must earn over 15.000 euro,s a year to start this official company.
As long we stay under 15.000 we are alowed to work like this.
We can start a company now but it will cost us too much at this moment we need to make the 15.000 a year.
However we are working on a website etc..
We are looking for more investors and we where hoping that you could help us out.
As soon as we have reached our target we will start up.
And when we are a company we want to setup a meeting with hashnest to see if we can buy cheaper hardware.
Then we want to start up our own big mine here in the Netherlands.
We need to make more clubmembers to reach target.
If you help us now than we will help you.
Let us know what you think. I think you suck at being con-artists. |
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5) no proof of h/w (thats why i am cautious with gigahash)
Actually, what is more important than 'proof' of hardware, which can always be faked, is proof of hashrate. This is extremely easy for the cloud mining operator to show live 24/7, they only need to show blocks being mined as they happened and from this can be extrapolated a rough hashrate. The only problem with this is establishing that they haven't sold more hashrate than they evidently possess. Which is why, if you really can't run your own hardware in-house but still want to mine, you're better off avoiding restrictive 'cloud mining' schemes altogether and simply renting actual rigs or straight-up hash-power which you can point wherever you wish. |
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If anyone wants to pay the fees for a claim, I will give you 50% of the $10,000 I'm owed upon recovery.
LMAO, Scammer alert. lol, I don't think Og is likely to scam anyone. |
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http://www.forbes.com/sites/jordanmaglich/2015/12/01/sec-alleges-bitcoin-mining-companies-operated-20-million-ponzi-scheme/Garza allegedly deliberately distanced himself from association with ZenMiner to create the appearance of an independent company, even going so far as to convince a relative of a GAW Miners investor to pretend that he was responsible for ZenMiner. Convince? Hmmm, interesting. Personally, I'd have gone for 'collude with'. Methinks Stuart Fraser is doing whatever he can to spin him and his son's involvement as that of being duped, which I'd believe for him to a point, but I struggle to accept his son wasn't knowingly balls-deep in the shenanigans.
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There is a God. /r/atheism unsubscribed. best comment so far  Agreed. That thread is comedy fucking gold. Welp, it has been a long time coming but the process is finally underway and while this may well be a civil action, the collected evidence they possess will no doubt have been passed to other three-letter agencies. Of particular interest to them will be the involvement of wealthy-investor-with-banking-difficulties-Rishabh-Jain. After all, Cantor Fitzgerald is a company in the business of providing investment services and advice to high-net-worth individuals and one would have to wonder how he ended up being introduced to the Garzas. |
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Of course they are going to try and fob off your lawyers with excuses, you need to get a CCJ (County Court Judgement) against them. CCJ's get registered on credit databases and impact a company's ability to obtain credit, letters from lawyers do not.
It cost <>GBP900 for the whole process from start to finish and will take a few months but it would appears that Alpha are paying the judgements, usually within a week or two past the court deadline.
Rather than having to settle for a partial 'refund' from Alpha, the court usually awards the full amount of the debt, plus interest and plus your legal costs.
Sending threatening messages of personal harm to them, however, is not clever as it allows Alpha to simply report such as a threat of violence and turns them into the victim in the law's eyes.
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I don't think that many people lost that much because of Fraser's involvement. How do you figure that when the whole scheme was predicated on publicly promoting Stuart and Cantor's involvement from the beginning? When GAW were being torn a new one for their aggressive silencing of critics while they were still pretending to sell miners but were actually hard-selling their 'hosted' deal so they could ponzi it up with 'hashlet' png's and not have to actually worry about operating in a legit space, Homero's announcement of his intention to be 'coining' with Paycoin received a barrage of skepticism which he set about attempting to rebut by getting the WSJ to, seemingly, verify both the large amount of btc involved AND the Stuart/Cantor backing. Without that, Paycoin would never have been able to fool so many into believing the obvious-scam-is-obvious $20 floor, Walmart/Target/Amazon 'integrations' etc. The apparent involvement of a blue-chip company like Cantor meant that those of us who were repeatedly trying to reason with people about how it was clearly a ponzi, were being drowned out with pages of spittle-flecked fanboy hatred. Whereas Garza had previously needed to pay scumbags to shout us down and bury our posts, he suddenly had an army of idiots with dollar signs in their eyes who absolutely did not want to hear sound reason as to why this was clearly a scam. |
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Why wouldn't you believe it when a number of us have already reported having successfully enforced the court judgements we won against Alpha?
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There is no way an educated, experienced, accomplished, connected executive from Cantor Fitzgerald didn't know Paycoin was scam when he saw it.
Accomplished? Sure, if you call being born into the right family and sucking up to granny sufficiently to be gifted a blue-chip company for you to twat about with. His relationship with Garza is suspect. You either have Stu as an intelligent gay guy who had a hard-on for Homero and couldn't help but indulge his little pet, or, as is more likely, you have Stu-nice-but-dim, who was conned into believing that Josh was the next Gates/Jobs/Musk and kept throwing money and opportunity at him until it became apparent he was being suckered and drawn deeper and deeper into one bullshit scheme after another. It's really no big stretch to assume that since Homero had done ok for Stu in the past that he should and did just give him carte blanche access to new projects. I don't think Homero had ever done 'ok' for Stu. His business history shows him constantly consolidating bigger and bigger debts and dreams, offering Stu more and more of a share of these about-to-fail businesses in return for debt forgiveness and more loans. The impression I got from their history is one whereby Homero has convinced him that his bullshit html-inject patent is proof of his genius and that Garza just kept laying it on thick, giving Stu the baffle-him-with-bullshit technical-speak, which further gave Stu the impression that Garza was a boy genius with a great future if he had the right backing. At the point where Homero is 'gifting' his fucking Tesla to Stuart, even though there's outstanding loan payments on it, you can definitely see from that snatched photo of him standing behind it with a somewhat nonplussed look on his face, that Garza's, possibly coke-addled, brain had become something significantly less than a stellar prospect. Stu's endorsement was the credibility builder that allowed the entire scam to take flight. No way the incoherent shyster would have had more than a pittance of marks without it.
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