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My money is on the sponsoring being done by Vlad2vlad, along with the larger trading volume as he offloaded his bag into his failed pump which began with his sudden appearance in this thread talking up about secret casino rumours for Paycoin and how valuable it is because...derp.
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Hahaha. I have blood on my hands?
Somebody please post ALL my emails to garza. I wish I still had them.
It would be fun to count how many times I screamed at those guys and threatened to report them to the FBI. Hahaha.
Itīs some kind of obsessive syndrome with some of these people as iīve pointed out countless times on these threads. You are a fucking idiot <=--- This is a factual statement evidenced by your own posted contradictions. You want self-regulation and in return you give ad-hominem tone complaint coupled with speculative bollocks about how a legitimate operation might fail due to something you like to call a 'self-fulfilling prophecy' about self-regulation. Like I said earlier I was tired of seeing the same thing freakin five hundred times from the same people. Every friggin day. It has to be some medical condition. And Iīve never promoted any scams.
Sometimes obsessive behavior of this kind results in a self-fulfilling prophecy. Enough customers are driven from even a legit operation so it goes belly up. And so it must be a scam to begin with. Of course I would never expect you to consider this possibility. But it may have happened occasionally.
Citation or GTFO. |
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What held me back was assholes like these guys, who make you out to be a scammer the second you make any money doing any development. You're not allowed to make money in crypto and if you do then you must be a scammer and a shill. It's the craziest thing I've ever seen - hard working devs are supposed to work for free and they better do a good job so those watching and doing nothing can make crazy profits off your work.
Dishonest argument, Vlad, a transparent attempt at deflection. No one cares if you make money legitimately. What you do, however, is attempt to make money through hyping dying coin projects *exactly* as you did at the start of the day today in this thread. Your 'signature move', if you will. Please describe this 'development' you claim to be skilled at? |
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PayCoin is trademarked by Garza Nope. I just showed you it isn't. He started the application for it and then abandoned it. and I think the XPY community has a right to it. PayCoin.com and other domains are also owned by this community in my opinion. AAAAAAAAHahahaAAAAhahahaAAAAAAhahahaaaaaa. . . . . .ha! Your opinion? Erm, how about you go do some reading up on basic commercial law and practices. If GAW owned a trademark and a domain for Paycoin, the XPY 'community' would have absolutely FUCK ALL claim to it. It would be the property of GAW alone and, as is the case, would likely be seized and auctioned off to pay off company debt, like to the Electricity Company who already has a judgement against them. Paycoin the currency HAS NO ASSETS OR CLAIM TO ASSETS. |
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Yes, I certainly agree with this. Scumbags in charge, this shit is meaningless. But maybe at some point down the line the marketplace will adopt something like self-regulation. Self-regulation? I do not think that term means what you think it means. What the fuck have you been doing all this time then if it isn't pushing back at exactly the self-regulation many people are trying to demonstrate through outing scams and scammers? Your post history shows you to spend a great deal of time shit-talking at the very people you claim are needed for this industry to succeed. |
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I know it's hard to imagine two men with enough logic who can see beyond the scammy part of XPY into the intrinsic value of its various components and assets.
Name them. These assets and components that give XPY the potential you claim. |
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Well, it was more about the paycoin name although paycoin.com was also mentioned. I think the name paycoin is being factored into the price, you donīt think it is in fact you insist that it isnīt. How youīre able to state something like this for a fact is beyond me. But thatīs just fine with me Iīm not insisting anything.
Firstly, a trademark would be owned by a company, not XPY and any company Garza is connected to is likely to have is assets seized. Secondly, and more importantly, you don't actually believe Josh went through with registering the name as a trademark, do you? This is Homero we are talking about, the man, the myth, the legend that is, "Soon".  I can't code but it would appear I have a special skill-set which is quite in high demand in crypto. Uhuh, sure you have. The kind of skillset that sees multi-millionaires ask you to accumulate a few bitcoins-worth of Bluecoin, right? |
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So yeah, I'm guilty of doing development work for XPY just like I tried to do for BLU and NAUT and numerous other coins. Development work? Well you admit to having no technical skills and all I can see in your history with XPY, IXC and BLU is you trying to do whatever you can to spin some hype for them. What actual development are we not seeing, Vlad? |
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Cryptodevil is absolutely right. No proof of mining ● Equals Proof of No Mining ●
It appears that this is hitting home with Genesis Mining. If it gives up the ghost it will be the worldīs second most legit mining operation to do so this year. Legit as in according to scam experts on these threads.
I've never said any cloud mining site was legit and if you'd care to reference the actual rating given for genesis mining in Ponzi 101, it shows there to be a risk of fractional mining. But, sure, you go right ahead and throw in some off-topic. It certainly doesn't show you to be a dimwit possessing nought but limited vocabulary ('garbage', anyone?) who routinely fails at logic and reasoning, at all, no you're good. Keep at it. |
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Anybody think Garza might try to revive this coin to stay out of prison?
How exactly does that work in Vladworld? 1. Fraudulent misrepresentation 2. Breach Anti-Money Laundering rules 3. Commit securities fraud etc. "No, wait, before you slap those 'cuffs on me, officer, I can be let free because I revived XPY at a later date!" But given the price is now near a penny it would be stupid for him to not try to revive this coin.
Please, just for shits'n'giggles, explain how he would be 'stupid' to not try and revive XPY? *grabs popcorn* |
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Some morning funnies from Vlad the Asshole  Oh that is simply priceless! Seems that Vlad gets to hear rumours about an impending Casino deal just as he's trying to shill Bluecoin to Garza and apparently one involving Paycoin today, too. Goodness me, one might think that he's a lying shitbag trying to scam people, but he says that Brock Pierce, Vorhees and Co think he's a stand-up guy, right? Because, you know, Bluecoin. Ixcoin. Or something. |
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That may be. Sixteen million coins isnīt much in shitcoin terms. There is garbage out there with 30 going to 100 billion coins that somehow fetches almost a cent per coin. I guess that market cap of hundreds of millions of dollars is a useless piece of info as well.
Galdur, seriously, give it up man your logic is grossly flawed. You refused to listen when people were telling you why scrypt.cc was a stinking turd of a criminal scam, until you finally had to relent in the face of mountains of evidence which tore apart your 'garbage'-laden ad-hominem-flecked desperate prose you routinely posted trying to explain how maybe, just maybe, it wasn't. The same thing is happening here, you are applying value to a coin which has no assets and no future outside of pump and dump hype. XPY doesn't own a brand and it doesn't own a domain. It is a decentralised network of nodes, a blockchain ledger. It cannot own anything. It does not own anything. |
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What makes you think that something that is worth a hell of a lot would even be sold. All Iīm saying is that the anticipated value of that paycoin brand name is part of the price discovery of this coin. Notice the part
part. Now, whether what people anticipate in investments turns out to be right or wrong later is another matter. The future will tell.
If you are unfamiliar with this price discovery thing look it up.
LOL, sure, 'price discovery'! I do not think that terms means what you think it means. Let's see, XPY is a decentralised digital currency, the value of which is determined by speculative investors looking to buy and sell to each other at various times and at various prices predicated on, well, speculation on there being some sort of future massive interest in the digital coin for some reason or other. XPY does not own anything. The Paycoin 'brand' and the paycoin.com domain name are not owned by the XPY network of nodes. If anyone were to ever, and this is a big fucking if, want to purchase the Paycoin 'brand' and domain name for their own project, it would not be for the benefit of the XPY network of nodes. |
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If and when crypto becomes all the craze in commerce a paycoin brand is going to be worth a hell of a lot, I donīt see any way around that. If and when the, supposedly registered, Paycoin 'brand' and the paycoin.com domain were ever to be worth 'a hell of a lot', where would the money from their sale go? A brand and a domain are not decentralised, they are owned by specific legal entities, persons or corporations. What I'm saying is, what on earth makes you think this fantasy 'hell of a lot' value would end up benefiting XPY bagholders? |
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Well, I very seriously doubt that you can buy that website for $19,715
Itīs just a nominal value. Whoīs the appraiser anyway?
those website appraisals are bullshit. a domain is worth as much as you can find an offer for it. Exactly and no serious investor is going to want to buy in to a domain associated with this clusterfuck. Google is going to haunt that name for many years to come. |
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Not sure why to you "maybe nominally a million dollars" means "to arbitrarily declare a value of a domain name"
maybe
adverb
perhaps; possibly.
"maybe I won't go back"
synonyms: perhaps, possibly, conceivably, it could be (that), it is possible (that), for all one knows;
Because it is wildly speculative as a figure and serves to support Vlad's absurd hype-based 'reasoning'. This is more likely to be the truth of the matter:  Although, saying that, how about this?  See, I've just done two appraisals and they are both nearer each other than anywhere near your million-dollar fantasy. |
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paycoin.com has as such to have some value as a brand name maybe nominally a million dollars.
+1 This guy gets it. Get's what, how to arbitrarily declare a value of a domain name? Vlad, seriously, are you going to make me have to post more examples of your blatant hype/shilling practices? You *do* know you have a rich posting history to mine, right? I know how you repeatedly mention that you possess no technical skills but surely you're capable of remembering that this forum allows users to easily see the sort of calibre of shill/hype monster they are dealing with? |
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Like I said, if I'm a liar and a scammer then dump - sell when I say buy and you'll get rich. Otherwise just shut it.
Ah, yes, the ol' "If you don't believe me then don't buy and, more importantly, STFU because you are ruining my attempt to hype this bag of XPY I'm holding" routine. Seriously, Vlad, have you read your post history? It doesn't do you any favours. At all. Maybe back in 2014 you might have made a healthy living doing all this hyping but, come on, put a little more creative effort into it will you? Repeating *exactly* the same method from a few months back is just unimaginative and tedious. |
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I was buing blue at 150 sat [as was Brock Pierce] Brock Pierce hanging out in a Skype chatroom with you, Vorhees and Co looking to spend a few bitcoin on buying up a coin with no developer? Not only that but, according to you, asking you to 'accumulate' Bluecoin on his behalf? Sure, sounds legit. my track record is impeccable
How do you figure that when your post history proves otherwise, frequently? |
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Secondly, I know quite a few connected people in crypto and word is that someone is working on launching a PayCoin Casino.
This would explain the mass accumulation and price manipulation which I have noticed for a few months now.
I have no proof of this and it could be bad info or misinformation but I thought I'd throw it out there.
You have no proof in any way that what you are saying is true but you thought you'd just, "throw it out there"? Bit like this when you tried to hype Bluecoin? Here are 2 PM's from Vlad2Vlad back in February when I was having it out with him. . . .
If you're being serious about your education then I will invite you to the blue room on Skype, if you're interested.
Charlie Shrem, Voorhees, Brock Pierce, Chad Russo, and other huge industry giants are currently Bluecoin buyers and regularly post in that room.
The room is by invite only but one guy I invited made me look bad so I promised Brian I wouldn't invite anymore people.
If you think I'm a pumper you can just sit quietly in that room and see these industry heavyweights discuss the future of BlueCoin.
It could be one of the best and biggest winners of 2015. Right now I'm trying to find a good coder to help with this app we have to deliver. But I need a coder who knows about telecom software code.
If you're a coder you would be a huge welcome there even if you just give advice and nothing more.
Either way, I always share my investment ideas with people and I always make it clear what the potential and what the risks are.
I'm sure you've heard if a popular guy on this forum that goes by Spoetnik, he hates scammers and is more outspoken than even you, and he was once my worst enemy, he hated me more than you. lol We are now very good friends if you can believe it cause he finally got to know me. lol
At any rate, I personally helped hunt lots of blue for Brock (it would take months to find that much blue on the open market as it's all being hoarded, just like NAUT, XPY, MAX, etc) which he bought for nearly 100 sat. So Brock is very much interested in blue but like I said, if we can't get that app done on time then BLU may not go anywhere but if we do get it done then it would be a huge winner, 40+ fold increase in the next 3 months.
Best of luck!
Seriously, Vlad, do you think you have any credibility? One might consider that your repeated attempts to talk up a big game about how 'players' are going to manipulate a market and now is the time to buy in, you know, not with more than you can afford to lose, of course, is an intentional scam. Can you defend your behaviour given that there's no good reason for it outside of your own personal gain at the price of other people's loss? |
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