Already pointed out by the first response that it isn't BTC adoption, but the use of it as legal tender.

Also spoiler, this isn't a new stance. I believe it was as early as 2018 when Marshall Islands first wanted to do that (the trigger here I believe was that they wanted to abandon their existing currencies a la El Salvador in favour of Bitcoin).

So, no (new) news really.

Thank you Steve and Sportsbet, and CLS63 for organising.

I kind of wish I had known this earlier, I am right now travelling so it's very hard to do things proper and I know if I don't do them now, I'll forget. Nvtl I made my payment (how nice Sportsbet balance is so easy to w/d!) so let's get this going!

Good luck to all, I know I'm probably donating money but beware of the luck of the random!

That's the only danger at this level of the competition, really, to underestimate opponents.

And to not be prepared for teams that know they will likely lose so will either play to their maximum effort or sit back and frustrate their more illustrious opponents.

I still never get why big teams act surprised when that happens haha.

Does anyone know where Conference League outrights are offered? I'd go one of the Turks if odds are pretty!

@Harko @Ige

I totally get the value of paying attention to price/budget system, as pointed out above, $110m is 10.2M more than my squad value, and that's an entire 2 or 3 players upgrade. I actually think FPL should pay more attention to this aspect. Value increasing/decreasing more.

But anyway, I'm like Ige, I don't care and it doesn't have a single iota of impact on my decision... for now. Then again, penalties don't even change my mind either =)

@harko: Nunez? I can't say for Fantasy, but he'll be worth it (and according to stats on and off the ball, minus actual goals, he is still the value we paid for, haha)

Yeah, I not only missed the Wolves upset, I actually had Mitrovic to score on another prediction. Serves me right for not waiting for lineup news.

I completely forgot there are 22 places to play for and not 10 actually. Suddenly my 50+ position doesn't look so bad (who am I kidding, right?). Anyway, I've got a lot more upsets lined up this week. Let's see me get 2 consecutive yellow caps maybe and then see if I can switch back to "normal"?

Spot on for your low-scoring affair on Friday night footie. I'm going for fast goal in first halves of Southampton and Arsenal games. Not sure what outcome will be after that. Not sure of anything at all today actually. Hard to not feel bummed out even after 3 nights, hope out boys are the opposite.


So happy to see someone profit from that! I guess it had to be you or me, and probably thousands of people on both those sides too, waiting for something to give.

This was my freebet ticket, also from the same prediction promo threads by jeremypwr. If Liverpool had actually held their lead, I would be in a weird position of cheering for City today...

Sweetness, another pool!

In regular news, for me as I just used up my 2 freechips from Southampton/Arsenal "Return of EPL" promos. Baccarat chip for Saints so I threw it all on double and lost, then went to Arsenal roulette and smacked my usual 4-way pick with 36 in it. 36 hits, $90 usdt balance magically appears.

I know it's not even that amazing but the way things are going these days... haha.

Went for both Saints/Gunners games with Asian totals Over 1 at HT today. Feel like we'll get quick goals, and then see both games settle for monotony later.

Will probably take a look at specials later if I can connect, not nice I missed the last ones when Arsenal pumped!

I know. I know. And I promise (heh heh) my last big bet will be on Real 2nd leg. After that, stick to upsets.

Today is Bournemouth under 11/1 to win at City... Can't believe the odds are so low these days, even Nott Forest was less than 10/1 last week. Just goes to show the confidence in City is waning, along with the betting value.

3 seasons ago Newcastle 25/1 vs City. How times change.

DOTA? I'm absolutely going to wing that one. I'm away from home til Tuesday so not sure I will find time to research.


I haven't learnt this lesson for years. I'm a very, very poor student, as it turns out (though I should have understood this from my teens).

If I could have powers to bet against my team to ensure I lose, I'd do it. It's crazy how I can't even try put 1 cent against them though!


Here's another big smile for you. It's 90th minute and Benzema has made it 5-2 and we are losing and sad. I go to my laptop. My kid asks me what I'm doing.

I say: looking for odds on next game for Liverpool to qualify.
He asks: how much you gonna put?
I say: Oh the usual, just 1 euro. Always.

Spoiler: I did not put 1 euro...


Thankfully I'm not single and have dependents. Would probably have done something idiotic like that if alone. I went for your Championship picks too, by luck we actually shared upsets (but I skipped Burnley).

Gave us all points in the end, but probably one of the most useless results, except for those who might be counting on slam points. They were that bad huh BEtis.

Real actually can't play on the same level against Atletico. Liverpool's style actually brings out the best in Real haha. Simeone would die before he allows that much space =p

Nice wins, my man. As you know from my last update I went almost in with another selection but I think I missed out on the last week's selection. Not to worry, I actually agree with you on your picks, but I'm skipping Burnley as odds are below 15/10.

So going for big value Boro and Blackburn wins, they're both playing away but QPR is dire, and agree, Baggies won't find a way to get past Boro's form.

Soup this up with Canaries and me spamming on Blades, and then tie up the 5 leg acca with... the not-so-secret team from Merseyside. Something like 70/1, so good luck to us both!

As always, I'll share only if I win. Or lose badly heh.

Hey OP. Been a while since I popped in and saw what you were doing. On mobile now so will check this out a bit proper next time I can but just to say, well done.

I know this also is not the first time you've collected Bitcoin for charity... Has it always been positive? Unexpected? Underwhelming?

When you find it hard to like people, animals, right?

Shame about the draw last night, probably should have seen that coming but I felt it was close enough to warrant my pick of a Wolves win.

Out all day so only following on text, maybe in time for the last game. Not like I got much stomach.

Sad despair grief lament like LFC_Bitcoin.

As others point out, you made a critical error in this model.

If you aren't the only person to have the private key, then the wallet is no longer yours, and yours only. You merely have equal control over the same wallet. Or to put it simple: the only way to prove sole ownership is to be the sole person controlling the private keys.

If you want to prove you owned it first, and it was stolen or given away or compromised, then you must find a way to prove that you used it first.

In your model, you could create a wallet and immediately "Stake" a Bitcoin address on this forum, signing from it. It doesn't prove you were the first owner though, just the first to use it or to attempt to provide evidence of owning it.

Reminds me of Liverpool at a point, regularly getting 20+ shots on target and no goals, and I remember 2nd bottom on the VAR table which ESPN used to keep track off (the more benefits you get the higher up the table you are).

I'd take that team back any day!


Mindblown. I thought goal-line tech, once triggered, is golden. And ref is alerted immediately, which is why it all works. Guess not anymore.


Nope. Saved myself some money... I feel proper deflated this week.

@cygan: Hammers must feel they can go far!

2/1 isn't that big a favourite, I don't remember odds dropping below that at any point, but yeah, I always thought that made it great value for ML either side, Real fans would be pleased they're still 2/1 over at home!



Yeah... kinda miss the guy. We had a bit of chatter in the early days of pool. Hope his real life is better than forum life =)


I don't really check back, I do know of one guy who only uses it to keep Bitcoin, but most people seem happy using MetaMask or some other software client only for doing their day to days.

Same as me, I hardly touch mine, hot wallets are all what I use, with small amounts spread out.

I don't think I've ever given it away to someone who I didn't think would use Bitcoin anyway though (except my kid who doesn't use it at all) so it wasn't like I was helping new entrants heh

Actually just realised even Wolves have a DGW so if you think Liverpool will misstep, might actually be a good idea to put a player in from there as a hedge (which I just did haha, not because of a misstep possibility, just to put someone on the bench in case of worst case scenario).

I tried understanding about this budget system (sell price) but I probably only will pay attention later on. I cleared out my team drastically some weeks back, don't remember getting much more for Salah who'd been in it forever...

Another poor week for me, picks, predictions, betting. What can I do but pour more money into last ditch attempts? Or stick it out and just bet on underdogs till end of season, while focusing everything on BSFL?

Not asking for advice. I know myself too well =D

I suppose it's already counting yourself fortunate to have that much disposable income to buy a whole bitcoin (and then some). Most people around me don't have that amount in savings, and if I look back to where I come from, most people will never earn that much in their remaining lifetimes, so welcome and glad to have you here!

What made you bite, and how do you buy it? I find it's complicated for experienced people to do p2p already, never mind a first-time buyer!

Did you make sure you've taken steps for secure storage? =)

Damn casper. 4 exact scores. That would at least have been 1000/1 on an acca!

bullrun2020bro, awful nice of you. I actually have had maybe more than 10 Ledgers/Trezors over the years, but always as a sort of package with work I did for clients, never actually won any of them! And I only ever kept 1, gave all the others away, feels like helping along "adoption" huh?

Well let me know how it turns out.


Thanks. It's completely speculative and a way of saying farewell to big bets in UCL. If I lose, then I'm at least playing with a clear head. 3 goals, not impossible. I think Klopp should actually switch Robbo and Trent whenever we know he's going to have trouble marshalling the right flank...

Yes, and I'm doing it again. This time the odds are about halved but Lazio are away, stinging from the last week's almost-draw, I think 6/1 is still pretty okay. Haven't actually placed any bets yet of course, just waiting to see how things go.

@morvillz7z I'd have taken Braga too but again but seriously? 2x to qualify?, winnings not close tempting me enough and I think I agree... BTTS or some kind of Asian overs as an acca are the way to go for these ties! I'll share the good news if I get something.

If not, then assume I lost everything...