Yeah Yamane_Keto, we understood what you meant, but I'm not sure you understood what you're expecting of average users either

I'm the regular user we're all talking about. Understand the most basic of coding languages, far from enough to understand anything harmful or malicious on Github if it screamt out at me.

It's still many time safer, and practical, to simply trust a software you know is actively being reviewed and checked by very good developer communities. To the simple user (yours truly), Electrum and Bitcoin Core prove that, by acting very quickly when changes need to be made or holes plugged.

It does strike me as strange that after advising your friend to sell his WBTC, he didn't tell you that he actually (supposedly) gets back the same BTC 1:1 if he redeems those wrapped BTC for actual BTC?

I mean, sure, you can sell the WBTC and then buy back BTC but you'll lose on the exchange (lose twice actually). If he'd actually known enough about wrapped Bitcoin to educate you, he might have understood how it works...

Wanted to see how I would fare against jayce if I went with gut but I see quite a few questions really need me to Google, and maybe that's not such a bad thing.


I spent some time in my youth watching a lot of Muay Thai (Thai kickboxing) live, and yeah, that was by far one of the most entertaining periods of sports in my life. I can understand that aspect for MMA (but I really dislike the heavy social media drivel accompanying it).

If you think seeing the same boxers is boring, imagine what happens if Super League becomes reality... I'd get so sick with seeing Real Madrid v Manchester City every couple of weeks. Royalty matches should be few and far between.


I'm really not sure hot babes/guys/people would have the desired effect... Steve's already pretty hot and distracting as it is.

I see you, and others, don't think you're not on my radar, haha. The smaller pools are as hard for me, as it turns out -- arguably harder to get a prize as only 5 winning places (5/15 is worse chances than 20/50 active players).

See you guys on Aug 12. Meanwhile, hope the transfer season is as exciting for you as it hopefully will be for me. We should be getting at least 4 new players just to replace the holes left behind by free agents. And we haven't even concluded business with renewals.

New academy player alert: Conor Bradley, on loan with Bolton and getting serenaded every game, they gave him all the POTY awards, they clearly want him to stay. Klopp already promises he'll get his chance at first team action, though... so we get another future Trent hopefully (but please, without the defensive gaps haha).

https://sportsbet.io/sports/4-3-free has a new selection active for that Game 3 you're all talking about so don't forget to spend a few seconds for an extra freebet chance Actually am already feeling quite lost knowing that this is the final week of club football for a while, so will be looking forward to some kind of promo or event for the upcoming internationals.

There are already some ongoing but they're mainly casino wagering, and with the time I (don't) have these days...

In the studies I've seen, fewer women are in Bitcoin when compared to male peers in the same demographics, but women do much better when investing, and are more interested in utility (as opposed to speculation). Seems to be a case of "Boys Should Also Be Learned About Money".


At least I know I'm not the only one being intolerant of these fantasy story made-up nonsense posts. I say intolerant because apparently, not everyone believes these stories aren't... stories


If I had the energy I'd dig up some old threads I've seen about other real-life stories of people claiming exactly that. Like me, I'm sure your heart would have warmed up to them.

OP has "knowledge is power" as his tagline... I wonder if miseducation and misinformation are more powerful weapons these days.

Call it freebet insanity. I'd already used up my price boost for the day, and instead of waiting 24 hours for it to replenish, I thought, yeah let's see what's on live? Tennis. It's funny what you do with bets you win. For me, anyway


I'm hurt that you don't understand my bets, jk, even I have to argue with myself on my logic at times, but you know, I do much, much better when just using odds comparison to actual result. Sofascore has a nice section that publishes performance vs expectations. I quote a random match from them:


So my simple brain goes for stats where teams win higher percentage of matches than expected on long odds. It's always skewed for teams meeting champions, I find.

Personally, I don't look at anything below 15/10, except if it's a pad for an acca, and even then maybe I go 13/10 lowest on a team I'm really confident in. Like you said, freebets are a licence for adventure


Yeah, in short: 1.5 min odds, min 5 legs.

I take this every day when I can. It's not easy to hit parlays, sure, but if you factor in the bonus boost to winnings and the insurance, you actually get a lot of value. I don't do very well on accas, but this was my most recent one, and that all started with a live tennis bet on the favourite after going down a set (it's one of my fav live bet picks).


Without the price boost, it's barely 30/1, so a full 10% extra on top is nice, the insurance itself is something special.

You've to understand there are comparisons to be made across different use cases. My personal story with Bitcoin was in comparison to PayPal as a cross-border (international) payment method, a problem you might not experience if you don't live and work in the global South, while wanting to interact with the Northern hemisphere and Europe.

Cost and speed are only one issue -- it costs a lot just to receive payments in a different currency (never mind converting it back), and at the poor rates these services like PayPal use.

But guarantee of access is the bigger issue.

Just this week, I had a payment declined from a Balkan country, after a week (still one of my few clients not yet convinced to use crypto). It will be refunded... within 10 business days, but I already lost fees and time. I actually ditched PayPal because I could get payments revoked MONTHS down the line, and even frozen for months, with repeated KYC on me triggered each time I relocated.


Again another issue: acceptance. Bitcoin's the only crypto I can comfortably and easily exchange in any country I've relocated to. Southeast Asia, Africa, South Asia, Europe, you name a country, I guarantee there's a P2P network there.

Same if I want to buy something with Bitcoin, any merchant accepting crypto accepts Bitcoin first.

Ether, not so much, USDT, yeah, it's growing, but Bitcoin is king.

Nice calls, CLS63 and damn you Slissy ha!

Still, I managed to keep my spot in 8th, so I'm not too upset. These 5 points from the summit feels so big, when you think about how tight these races are. Glad I kept faith in Verstappen. For once Tsunoda got in above 10 and I didn't put him in...


Thank you for your kindness ha!

It's happened at least once for me in every pool, every season. I actually lost prize spots in UCL because I forgot an entire round during round 16 (that was different though, I honestly thought I put in picks and then happily went to look for results and saw the bad news haha).

Strange thing the mind does to you when you think you're on autopilot and then rely on that without actual reminders, huh.

Worst game ever, United, but who am I to talk, when they were in the final eh?

A bit of a pity I didn't post the other bet I had that did hit (PSG losing) yesterday but let's go for another champion going down, this time in Italy, in another game that doesn't matter.

Bottom team meets top.

100 units at Sportsbet on Sampdoria to WIN vs Napoli @29.60. Other odds: 25.00
Units advantage: 460

Guess you just booked a nice little sum to play with today on the real race


Heh, yeah, but I think it pays to be even more overly optimistic that that, really, as I put one freebet (From this Lopez v Conlan boxing prediction) on PSG to lose last night. Clermont Foot's not the most glamourous team in Ligue 1, but they actually had a goal chalked off, a penalty miss, and a late goal also disallowed... and still managed to beat Messi and co.


Might not win these picks often but they're worth a lot when they do hit

Ajaccio were the other upset last night, but that's what you get when teams are playing their final game and have no pressure to win.

Today, I like similar matchups (teams with nothing to play for) in Serie A and La Liga. For example, Napoli's hosting bottom-team Sampdoria so for me, one's already a champion, and one's already relegated. Playing for pride appears to be the best value bet so that is the obvious one to take at 29/1 but I think a slight Asian Handicap is also pretty damn good odds.

Looking really good guys, and I have to say, 52 people in the second season is massive -- I can easily see this turn into a 100-team league association by season 4 if we keep getting in ClubTalk members.

Re combat sports -- I think it's high time we had it in BSFL and it would seem to be we have quite knowledgeable players in our midst. jeremypwr also comes to mind, after all, he hosts all the boxing and MMA prediction threads (also Sportsbet sponsored). Could be a resource. Personally, I think boxing is "bigger" than MMA, at least in terms of reputation, but I know there are lots of MMA fans who would like to prove me wrong

As a neutral I wanted this game to be high-scoring, and reach PKs, with United taking it. Can't believe am hoping they win (I support Liverpool) but the tables have turned so badly that I see City as the one whose dominance must be challenged.

Pretty dull affair, but can't complain about a draw, 2 goals, from 3 shots on target, I suppose. Both need to take more risks next half.


Not only that, use the price boost and you can get over 18/10. Go the other way and it's almost 6/1. I always wonder why people leave money on the table at such significant margins (he might have caught bad timing but it's been stable, and even going down actually since the market first emerged).

Guess today's all about FA Cup for me heh. I took 2 of those specials (but the last couple of specials are for the UCL final, I don't think it's worth taking but hey), the Rashford Haaland shots on target apiece look interesting, then I also went for PKs... unlikely but you never know what a derby can throw up.

By the way, anyone fancy Barca losing the other big final today?

https://sportsbet.io/sports/soccer/international-clubs/uefa-champions-league-women/matches

And of course, day-old accounts know Steve's name like it's the most natural thing. Best to help report posts like that to clean up the clutter. I think so anyway.

Wrexham's B team (which just got promoted to league football) just beat US women's 12-0. Wonder who else besides Hollywood's sponsoring them eh? Anyone follow lower league (English) football here?

@crampoll545 As posted above, wait for the weekend, you'll get an answer.


Man just put money on it. I have some freebets won, so one deserves to go on this simple ML:

What? Season is almost ending (typically I end with Champions League final) and we still have over 400 units to burn, so why not let's try spread it out a bit over the next 3 big finals coming up, right? That starts today with the FA Cup final.

A simple ML on United to come out on top against City (who plays their second choice keeper).

100 units at Fairlay on Man Utd to WIN vs Man City @5.89. Other odds: 5.45
Units advantage: 44

Shame he left the forum, would have liked that extra plurality (where's the sarcasm emoji?).

Still not sure what Ver refers to when he says Bitcoin these days, because according to him, he's following the "real Bitcoin" (BCH), which keeps losing market share. He always thought this was an important indicator, and why Bitcoin was ded... he proved to be prophetic though, as his version of Bitcoin actually is (dead).

@famososMuertos @mv1986 I agree Div2 is pretty damned impressive for getting the most points, but on the other hand, it suggests poorer opponents. One might argue that the division with the most points dropped is actually the toughest (most competitive), since matches are always so tight -- in which case Div3 is actually the most competitive league in the maiden season

On competency (how good players are) Average Goals Scored would be the better indicator, since you need to get a question right, or answer more accurately than the opponent, to score a point. You'll see that Div1 (40.08) and Div2 (40.67) are much closer in that aspect (though Div2 still comes up on top). Div3 is significantly lower in that regard, with only 402 goals (36.55 average) scored.

Didn't adjust numbers for late answers or missed rounds... I believe that only happened in Div3?

@Strongkored I have Ons Jabeur Quarter 2 outright at almost 4/1, women's didn't have an outright winner market when I checked, might be available after today, I'd definitely double down on her. Not expected to win so soon after recovery but I like the odds.

P.S. For all those who don't use social media, or Telegram (I know some people who simply don't), please use LoyceV's notifier. It's really easy to setup, you can even bookmark the link and see notifications in your browser.

No allegiances for me here, though I always remember good exploits on betting with Hamburg -- what's more appealing to me right now though is this team Wehen Wiesbaden.

Don't want to Google them just yet, prefer to find out more about them IF they go through. Arminia also gave me some good memories, but I'll be looking forward to a new entrant in Bundesliga, I always love those sweet, sweet odds on new faces up against old favourites.

Are BTT users true Bitcoiners or pseudo Bitcoin supporters? If you can answer that objectively, and explain why it matters, yeah, then I'll get to random US politicians.

Last time I checked, there was no prerequisites of character to use Bitcoin. Put your memes, use it for your political candidacy, motives pure or not, it all actually helps in the end.

As pooya87 says, what monkey do is more important than what monkey says. Every use is proof of concept.