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Finally jumped through all the hoops and dotted all the i's at kraken to get my account funded there, so I added my request for XMR-USD and XMR-XBT pairs. With enough noise, eventually we can make it happen. Then watch out!
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I have no problem with the new structure. Seems quite a smart way to go actually.
The lower limit of <600 Btc traded in a month is a but high though, surely there are few who actually reach that?
When I first bought bitcoin, the exchange was charging 6%. Seriously. To go from 0.20 to 0.25 doesn't really bother me. |
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sigh...
'bitmonerod.exe is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file.'
Perhaps something to do with where it is filed, not that that hepls me. hopefully a windblows expert will make sense of it and get me going. Or back to the original plan of wait til I get a new SSD for my languishing PC and learn Linux.
aight... i made a set of images for this once.... u on IRC? u should really hop on IRC. ok, thats what it is. I'm assuming that you just typed in "cmd" in the start menu or something. You need to get to where your files are. cmd from the start duumps you... well i dunno where. So the easiest way - on your desktop, open up your folder with bitmonerod in it. All the happy icons. Now, in the bar at the top, under the menu (where it shows your location, something like " This PC > folder X > folder Y", click in their and delete the whole thing. It should highlight and allow you to just start typing. now type cmd and hit enter. this will dump you into a terminal in your folder with bitmonerod. The commands bitmonerod.exe --flag value that you used above should now work. alternatively, you can start from wherever the start menu entry of "cmd" dumps you and navigate from there. In windows/dos, the command dir shows the directory of wherever you currently are, and the command cd means change directory. so if you cmd from the start menu dumps you at c:\windows\system32\ so you would type cd / , and this would take you to just the C: drive (the lowest level directory). now you would type dir , and this would give you a list of directories. I think the desktop files are in users \ name \ desktop , so you would type cd Users cd Myusername cd Desktop but as you can see, its probably easier to dump into the directory you want from the GUI. Thank you for all of that, but I seem to have it moving again (see edits above) We'll see if it KEEPS moving... |
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sigh... 'bitmonerod.exe is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file.' Perhaps something to do with where it is filed, not that that hepls me. hopefully a windblows expert will make sense of it and get me going. Or back to the original plan of wait til I get a new SSD for my languishing PC and learn Linux. EDIT: on a hunch, prefixed the whole location of the file, and your instructions took, but I think I am dealing with just a shitty connection. 'warning: no 2 valid moneropulse DNS checkpoint records were recieved' this has been the case from the very first, but didn't seem to impede progress from the start. EDIT 2: increasing set_log level ill advised, as posted earlier  Progress is being made! Thanks Smooth! |
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Try adding "--out-peers 1 --p2p-bind-ip 127.0.0.1" to the bitmonerod command line
But if your bandwidth is really that bad, or your computer that slow, it may not help much. Give it a try and see.
You can use the "status" command to see whether it is making progress.
result: unknown command: --out-peers 1 --p2p-bind-ip 127.0.0.1displays command list EDIT: tried "out_peers 1 p2p_bind_ip 127.0.0.1" result: max number of out peers set to 1 You have to put it on the command line when you start it, for example: BITMONEROD.EXE --out-peers 1 --p2p-bind-ip 127.0.0.1 I start by clicking on bitmonerod in the folder I saved it in. It runs. I do not know another way. My last DOS experience was 30 years ago in highscool. Trust me, anything I learned has been overwritten since then  Your DOS experience is about equal to my Windows knowledge. Isn't there something you can do with right click and properties to set a command line on an icon? Maybe it has to be a shortcut? Windows experts please help.... Google I can do... start, search 'command prompt' bingo moving on... |
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Try adding "--out-peers 1 --p2p-bind-ip 127.0.0.1" to the bitmonerod command line
But if your bandwidth is really that bad, or your computer that slow, it may not help much. Give it a try and see.
You can use the "status" command to see whether it is making progress.
result: unknown command: --out-peers 1 --p2p-bind-ip 127.0.0.1displays command list EDIT: tried "out_peers 1 p2p_bind_ip 127.0.0.1" result: max number of out peers set to 1 You have to put it on the command line when you start it, for example: BITMONEROD.EXE --out-peers 1 --p2p-bind-ip 127.0.0.1 I start by clicking on bitmonerod in the folder I saved it in. It runs. I do not know another way. My last DOS experience was 30 years ago in highscool. Trust me, anything I learned has been overwritten since then |
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There's a node close to me, which sort of blows my mind. |
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Try adding "--out-peers 1 --p2p-bind-ip 127.0.0.1" to the bitmonerod command line
But if your bandwidth is really that bad, or your computer that slow, it may not help much. Give it a try and see.
You can use the "status" command to see whether it is making progress.
result: unknown command: --out-peers 1 --p2p-bind-ip 127.0.0.1displays command list EDIT: tried "out_peers 1 p2p_bind_ip 127.0.0.1" result: max number of out peers set to 1 |
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I downloaded this: http://downloads.getmonero.org/win64 to set up simplewallet. It was simple, so I decided to try to sync the blockchain to see if I could run a node, despite my minimal connection. (-disclaimer- CLI illiterate) I opened bitmonerod, and everything started reasonably smoothly, but stalled, Sync data returned unknown top block 26801. After a few restarts, it gained some ground, but for 24 hours and numerous restarts has not passed 57001. what exactly should I input to get it moving again, or should I give up until I get to a better connection? I figured it would be slow, but zero progress for 24hr+ is not worth the drain on my available bandwidth. |
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If someone wants to have up to date USDXMR charts, you can now check bit.ly/xmrcharts !  Data: poloniex for XMRBTC and bitcoinaverage for BTCUSD Thanks for sharing that! |
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I know you've said many times now that the GUI won't cause wider adoption outside of our crypto bubble, but do you have any suggestion for how that adoption might be achieved?
EDIT: or rather, what in your mind is the biggest obstacle that needs to be overcome for adoption to start happening?
Off the top of my head: A general use wallet could exist in the form of a messaging app built on top of XMR, with the ability to send money to friends' accounts, just like WhatsApp or Venmo. The intimidating 94-character addresses should never be visible to the user but associated with every user's account. Payments could be sent to other user accounts or even to email addresses of non-users (side note: it would be great if MyMonero would allow me to send a payment to any email address ... not talking about open alias). A great service I'd like to see would be a payment gateway that assumes the risk of instant/0-conf transactions for a fee (say 1%), for point-of-sale purchases.
I think a major obstacle is the address. Addresses need to be abstracted away from the end user. Also, the great thing about cash is that nothing is simpler than handing your friend a ten dollar bill. The first device/app/tool that comes close to that level of simplicity with digital money will win big. is doing exactly what you want on the fly if you use it correctly  How painful is their cut? Do they take it as a percentage, or pad the exchange rate, or both? Take a look at their TermsNothing there to indicate fees or rates. Just that it's not available in New York or North Korea |
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I know you've said many times now that the GUI won't cause wider adoption outside of our crypto bubble, but do you have any suggestion for how that adoption might be achieved?
EDIT: or rather, what in your mind is the biggest obstacle that needs to be overcome for adoption to start happening?
Off the top of my head: A general use wallet could exist in the form of a messaging app built on top of XMR, with the ability to send money to friends' accounts, just like WhatsApp or Venmo. The intimidating 94-character addresses should never be visible to the user but associated with every user's account. Payments could be sent to other user accounts or even to email addresses of non-users (side note: it would be great if MyMonero would allow me to send a payment to any email address ... not talking about open alias). A great service I'd like to see would be a payment gateway that assumes the risk of instant/0-conf transactions for a fee (say 1%), for point-of-sale purchases.
I think a major obstacle is the address. Addresses need to be abstracted away from the end user. Also, the great thing about cash is that nothing is simpler than handing your friend a ten dollar bill. The first device/app/tool that comes close to that level of simplicity with digital money will win big. is doing exactly what you want on the fly if you use it correctly How painful is their cut? Do they take it as a percentage, or pad the exchange rate, or both? |
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Holy crap those instructions on github would scare away anyone with an interest in Monero. I use LightWallet2 on Windows, works well enough but better wallets with GUIs should be a priority. At least there is MyMonero.com for getting started. Those instructions look great. Being paranoid is a good thing in crypto. Paranoia is why many are looking for anon to begin with. Just because you're not paranoid, doesn't mean they're not after you... |
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explorer, everyone figured out what the poll should have asked and answered based on what it should ask. We humans are very smart and adaptable.
ArticMine, very well written and solid points. Thanks.
Explorer's answer may be correct even based on what the poll is trying to ask. In the sense that to the extent BTC is a scam (and there is not no basis for that) it has scammed more people for more money than all the others combined. ArticMine's point is also valid. There have been more blatant scams than Dash. Then again we never know what is really going on behind the scenes with any of these coins (i.e. the most well executed scams may not even be recognized by scams at all) and Dash's instamine is particularly subject to that question since it is by its nature deceptive (Bytecoin too). Again, an assumption yet to be clarified by the OPS (original pot stirrer) EDIT: OP's OP in this thread does actually clarify somewhat, but the poll question is still the poll question. |
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explorer, everyone figured out what the poll should have asked and answered based on what it should ask. We humans are very smart and adaptable.
ArticMine, very well written and solid points. Thanks.
Ah, so 'everyone' is a mind reader! Good to know. If the OP meant what 'everyone' thought, then why not ask that question? Would they then have answered this question? The mind boggles. |
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Getting called scam most often is not really the same as most scammy. Reading comprehension is not high. Perhaps it is a language barrier though. |
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It cannot possibly be other than BTC, as it is the only one known outside of the crypto community. Untold numbers of people that do not even know that there IS a crypto community call BTC a scam. So much for logic. Of course, a poll like this is intended to do nothing but stir the pot, and as we see, has had moderate success in doing so. A poll asking what people believe to be a scam would be more to the point, and of course most here didn't read this one correctly, and took it for such.
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What's crazy is the idea that the average joe will want to run a node for some whiz-bang e-money just because he can... never mind the fact that he has no reason to.
A bundled GUI only increases accessibility to the few crypto-conscious individuals already in the space. Joe Blow doesn't have a good reason to run his own node, GUI or not. Making something easier doesn't automatically make anyone want or need it.
There are lots of things that can make XMR approachable to wider adoption. Mobile apps with easy messaging as an abstraction layer for payments, point-of-sale tools and services for in-person purchases, easier exchange services from/to fiat, etc. would all be greatly helpful.
But a core GUI won't increase adoption significantly, because average users won't be running their own nodes anyway.
Sure, I don't run a node for Btc, but that coin is several iterations past efficient CPU mining. But Monero, afaict, will be still CPU mineable, right? THAT's my motive for running a node. As someone else here pointed out, going through the hoops to mine Monero NOW is a "chore". But once the gui is out, if it has one-click smart mining, I'm there! Giving everyone a motive and an easy way to run a node is decentralization in action, as exciting in its way as fungibility and privacy! I also was waiting for the GUI and easy mining, having briefly tried and failed to set up in early 2014. I just didn't choose to dedicate the time to it, expecting improvements to be more rapid (no complaints, my donations have been small, and my time and equipment lacking anyway) Today I started to sync the blockchain on windows64, and will give it another go when it eventually catches up. I don't expect much out of my laptop, but it is a good learning experience for when I finally get other resources online. The GUI is a long awaited exciting development, and will create positive buzz no matter when it is finally released. |
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Is the GUI supposed to be out in 2016?
It is under active/funded development. Generally expected in the summer, but could be sooner or later. |
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I wouldn't call it struggling. In fact, that was ridiculously easy. I was holding out to set up a linux machine, but jwinterm shamed me into setting up on windblows for the interim. Took longer to write down the seed words than all the rest combined, once I got it downloaded. now to transfer a few moneroj in there, and test recovery. Thanks for the nagging, jwinterm |
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